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Do you run a non-sprint ROM?
Help us out by booting your phone without SetCPU enabled and post your linpack score* on the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
Make sure your version matches the version posted before posting your score.
On behalf of the community, thanks!
* Linpack scores are not the be-all and end-all of the value of a ROM. Results may vary from device to device. If you experience an erection lasting more than four hours, consult your physician immediately.
Why not post Quadrant scores too?
by all means, add a column for quadrant.
I just used linpack because i wanted to keep it simple. But if you want to add quadrant scores (or any other benchmark) go ahead
I like this idea Quadrant column added
Added scores for Fresh - using HTC's current kernel. Don't kernels effect a roms performance; could skew each person's results, right?
The problem with this set up si that the scores very to much from device to device and that depending on how the phone is set up etc or how the test is run determines the outcome.
We saw the same issue when neif was doing his rom comparison. some where taking averages some where taking best some where using everything stock some werent even with the test instruction unless one person does all the tests exactly the same for each rom on the same phone with the same set up .... it makes the numbers very useless in my opinion. Thats not even accounting for diffrent rom versions kernels etc.
So i would use this with a big grain of salt as there is basically no standard used in obtaining it if it is done as a community and YMMV.
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The problem with this set up si that the scores very to much from device to device and that depending on how the phone is set up etc or how the test is run determines the outcome.
We saw the same issue when neif was doing his rom comparison. some where taking averages some where taking best some where using everything stock some werent even with the test instruction unless one person does all the tests exactly the same for each rom on the same phone with the same set up .... it makes the numbers very useless in my opinion. Thats not even accounting for diffrent rom versions kernels etc.
So i would use this with a big grain of salt as there is basically no standard used in obtaining it if it is done as a community and YMMV.
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+2 THIS for the sake of good science!!!!
Who knows how many variables you are not taking into account!
If you really want to do this right, you need to ensure that the ROM is the SINGLE VARIABLE for the tests.
Now who wants to take the time to do that???
I have never even remotely tried to update a wiki page, but if someone wants to post my score, running Fresh ROM 3.3.0.1 with the Netarchy 4.1.9.1 BFS kernel I got 35.523 Linpack.
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
How does the phone perform? Are you satisfied with it or does it lag considerably? A benchmark really means nothing other than bragging rights. If it feels fast and feels good then why worry about mflops?
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If you look in the developer forum just pick one of the ROMs and you will find info on enabling JIT
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My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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whether you updated via flashtool or through seus or pc companion, to optimize your phone is very simple especially if not wanting to root or install custom roms. download latest flash tool, once installed and up and running. make sure your phone is set on debug mode. connect to usb and plug into comp. though you may not want the apps that are in the custom folder. hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files. this will bring mflops up and quad scores up. it however will not give very high scores. quad will be around 800-850 tops. mflops will be increased to about 20-30 maybe 35. notice on quad when running the rotating planets test. you might hit 33fps!!! instead of the supposed 30 that its only suppose to get. if you run neocore test you might only peg and 25-28. Good Luck!!
-OP
try running the test again after the unit has settled down (no activity for a while). you might get different results.
hit the customize button, you can remove them later. you will now notice that the optimize button is now highlighted in black. click on that button and let it install the files. This installs JiTv2 Files
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Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
My score for mflops is always around 39 and my highest is 40+
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hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
xxcysxx said:
Hi SErooted,
thank you for your helpfull respond. i pressed the customize and then the optimize button like you said and the phone rebooted and the result was better. linpack now get about 32 and some change, quadrant about 757, and neocore about 21fps, shouldn't neocore get better frame rate than this?
can i get it even faster than this?
i have heard about clearing the dalvik chache when installing JIT for the first time. well i didn't clear any cache when i press that customize or optimizer button. did it do it automatically or do i still have to do it manually?
what i wanted was to have the interface and games run fluid and smooth. like no studder at all.
does the processor throttle down when the system is at idle?
should i overclock?
also, i have notice the video recording in hd mode have less studdering now. though its still there, but less. do you think it probably have anything to do with the memory card performance. i'm still using the stock 8gb that originally came with the phone.
hello Michael7168,
thank you for your respond to my message. can you please elaporate more on your statement. is this an x10 you using? i would like to get this result too.
furthermore, i prefer not to use custom firmware at the moment as i use this phone frequently day-to-day and i need to have full functionality of it and reliably. custom firmware are still buggy and lacks some functionality of the phone that i still find usefull for my daily task. but if there is a better custom firmware that really does utilize all of the phone functionality, then please point me in that direction.
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
min free kb: 900000
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Oom allocating: checked
like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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Hello xxcysxx,
yes neocore normally runs higher scores. round about 27-28 avg. i personally havent ran a stock firmware since right around mid december. i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4. and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result. i have done some testing on my x10 with various settings and roms and will be happy to share with you what i have going on. my phone is very responsive. quad scores as of ten minutes ago was 2011 without having overclock widget installed. if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores. but really not needed if you follow settings below. i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!! not sure if you have read the thread on it yet but if not i will have to post there as i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
min free kb: 900000
dirty ratio:500000
dirty background:200000
vfs cache pressure:10
Oom allocating: checked
like i said performance not battery. i know for battery saving settings set these numbers close to what the default are. the lower the better battery, the higher, performance.
if you are really worried about daily performance and custom roms.... when/if you decide. i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
if you are interested in a 2.2 rom which really does boost speed on phone and what not. i recommend z's 2.2beta4 as video is not working as of yet you might hold off. if you dont use video you should be ok with camera for now and that works. install gappsfreex10, z's data2sd, and theme of your choice. i like xfx10 cant remember name of creator (sorry) but this theme is great! all of theme are great to be honest this is just the one i use.
2.3 roms are out and they are snappy alone without having any adjustments, however there are things that dont work, camera is really the only thing i can think of right now. but by this time it might be fixed, cant say havent checked status but will when done replying.
you can install and run sysctl on these roms as well and gives great boost.
update: not sure if this is a result of sysctl or problems due to network overrun... mflops as of now are 3.2 i normally run 38+. Mmmmm, I wonder?
update 2: double checked after a little while and low mflops was due to network overload not settings. also once upon reboot from my settings i have a quad score of 2233. screen shot below. mflops picked back up but yet are not as high as usual 34.xx
as well to answer on dalvik cache... yes clear cache and also install cache cleaner from market. i have mine set to clear every twelve hours. when installing custom rom not always a case but recommend to wipe user data as well. a few minutes to reset your phone and make sure everything smooth is worth doing this. as well, clear battery stats.
either way, let me know what you guys think and if these settings help.
SErooted
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holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
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holy sh*t. is that benchmark test at the bottom for your X10?
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no the one at the top where it says your device. 2233
or how about now after i modded my sysctl settings.screen shot below taken just seconds before this post
xxcysxx said:
Hello folks,
I just tried to benchmark my x10 with linpack and got only 6.8 or 6.9 mflops. is this normal, is there anything i can do to make it get a higher score?
I'm using the latest .435 firmware and rooted and have all the junk pps from the 'x10 junk apps' thread removed from my phone.
Thanks for any help.
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Install JIT from here.
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Install JIT from here.
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i have alternated with a few and have finally settled on z.s 2.2b4, and have checked all roms available to find which is best. and custom firmware is sometimes shere you get the desired result..
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thank you for your respond again.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
if yo install overclock widget and max out on screen and off screen min and max to 998mhz, you can achieve slightly higher quad scores.
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will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i have a free app from market sysctl. it works!!
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yes, i done this already. but still learing on settings.
i have found perfect settings for performance but at cost of battery drain. install if you have root, if not, the call to root is yours.
if interested.... download sysctl from market.
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on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
i recommend eminence for 2.1 theme of your choice but i really dig bitsnackers theme its awsome and who wouldnt think a tron looking buzzlightyear isnt cool? its awsome. has a cool bootlogo too. all phone funstionality is there video, camera, flash. EVERYTHING!!
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i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
BELOW>>> Optimized, xrecovery, root<<<< ENABLED
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i have a question about xrecovery.
are you familiar with bare metal restore, acronis true image, or norton ghost.
i use these software to customize my laptop for different occations. whether i use my laptop to play games with my buddies at break hours durring schools, or do homework assignments in the library, or other general work. all i have to do is lay the image at boot and i have a completely different pc. it can be any os using any software customize in anyway, and took about five to ten minutes to lay down the image.
now back to the xrecovery question. can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
thanks again, your time and help is very much appreciated.
your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Bold step... always worth a shot.
so to your experience, z's 2.2 b4 has all functionality of the device working with only the exception of the video recording? is that correct?
perhaps i can live with that for now. i frequently record my baby playing around the house and playing outside, that's why i prefer to keep the camcorder.
perhaps i will find an old phone laying around in the house just to get by while i'm going on an adventure on custom firmware.
i always keep several older phones for camera use, or other things so this is always a good idea.
will keep this overclocking widget in mind. i just recently learned that you cant clock the processor past 1Ghz without sucessfully cracking the bootloader first. so overclocking is not going anywhere for now.
i agree in holding off, really overclock widget should be utilizes when operating stock 1.6. anything after that 2.1 2.2 2.3 their optimized with jit or are optimized enough without it
on your x10 running at these settings, can you go at least a full day of work on a single charge with frequent text messaging, internet browsing, and phone calls?
no video games or leisure activity involve. full day of work as in taking the phone off the charger in the moning and comming home around eight or nine o'clock in the evening.
these settings, im actually getting stats on this today as i was modding my phone alot yesterday and did not much have chance to let charge until last night. will let you know how well those settings work through out the day.
i'm confused here. is eminence 2.1 a custom firmware or is it a theme for android 2.1 firmware?
if it is a modified sony ericsson 2.1 stock firmware with a different theme, then i'm not interested.
however, if it is a fully ported open source 2.1 android firmware, (not tamper with by sony ericsson) then this is good news. i really hope it is this!
to my knowledge is has not been tampered with by sony, cant recall if the dev had placed any se apks in theme. but it is a great rom. so is blue sparks. if going 2.1 anyway. these are roms and not just themes overlay. so should be as open source as the dev made it.
i have a question about xrecovery, can i do a "full backup" or a complete snap shot of the flash of my current android os and then restore it back at a later time in the same state and condition it was in just before i left it?
this is just incase i might have a remorse when i try the custom firmware.
i put a lot of time in making all the settings and adjustments just to the way i like it and i prefer not to have to do it all over again.
yes you can. when in xrecovery, go to back up and restore. and backup. this will save all settings, phone book, contacts text message, everything! if not happy with custom software you have installed. just go back to xrecovery>backup and restore> restore. back to 2.1 software before the custom rom
I have another question about the JIT software.
how many jit versions are out there?
i'm using the x10 flash tool version 0.2.6 to install the jit software on my phone. do you know what version of jit was distributed with this flash tool version?
the JiT version that is with the new flashtool is JiTv2 i believe.. dont quote me on that. i believe it is as i have looked at the files in the optimizer and compared them to the copy of JiTv2 i have saved on my comp. to my knowledge, there is only two versions. again, dont quote me on it. i havent seen an chatter going on about newer versions so this might be all we get. not sure though
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always happy to try and help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935919
Refer this
Cheers!
AdY
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your generic test result has me sold to custom firmware. i want to try it out to see what i'm really missing.
Sorry took so long to kget back to you. hope you catch this.
Sysctl settings really dont make large change in how fast all functions of the phone operate. most increase in performance for settings is shutdown and power on time. as well as a little better scrolling of menus.
basically running the 2.2 software from z or trip, adding the data2sd.zip will get you well into having quad scores of 2+++. if aiming for higher closer to around 3000. which i am very near doing. ill show when i have the proof not till then
anyway, getting mid 2+++ scores and higher, do require using something like set cpu or Overclock widget, in order to get your phone to run at top speed while doing the test..
after that run a test then another and so on until you have achieved what is perfect W/O for you.
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i did tried the setting parameters you suggested earlier before your latest post and i found the improvement is not that noticable, but the battery did die very quick. i found the original configuration work just fine at this point.
i'm still doing some reading on the custom firmware to make sure i make the proper approach without any hickups. i still have a lot of school work to finish and a part time job so the custom firmware is moving along quite slowly.
hi. i have seen people here saying that "Benchmarks prove nothing" and even one of the Senior member saying so.
but what i have experienced after using Note and switching between different ROMS like Rocket Rom v22 and v23, Midnote, CheckRom and Stunner Rom, i have found that Yes the Benchmarks Do matter a lot in terms of just explaining how your phone will perform.
i mean i ran the bencmarks on all of these Roms and i used them all for about 4 to 5 days each, and i found that not all of these give equal results and not all of these are equal.
the Check rom performed the worst among all of these Roms. by the time i installed it, my phone started giving me issues. like the battery issue. whenever i connected the phone to the data cable and either connect to my pc or laptop or even the charger, there would a screen popup saying, battery removed! i did everything i could do to fix this issue but all in vain.
well the best Rom in terms of performance is the Rocket Rom. rocket rom gave me the highest scores and i found it to be the most stable Rom.
Midnote was ok rom. it gave me really good benchmark scores but there were lots of force closes.
i really dont want to talk about the CheckRom. it gave me the lowest scores and it proved to be the most buggy rom i have used, and then came the battery removed issue.
Surprisingly i, the ICS Stunner Rom was the Rom which gave me around 110000 score in the Browser mark in the native browser, but for the rest of the benchmarks it gave me normal scores.
so in my point of view the best rom for note for now is the Rocket rom, but if u want buttery smooth UI and 199% smoothness, go for the ICS Stunner. but the payoff is that u loose the SNote and the screen capture capability which i really love about my note.
hence proved, Benchmark Results Do make a difference!...... These are my own personal results and you may have different results but I thought I would share my findings....
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hence proved, Benchmark Results Do make a difference!
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Hardly proved! Far from it.
Benchmarks *can* give you an indication of performance, but *nothing* is better than simply trying out different ROMs and making your own objective decision.
Fwiw though, some benchmarks simply aren't worth the time and effort - Quadrant, I'm looking at you!
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Dave
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I am gonna steal my friend's Chasmodo quote (credits to Chas)
A man without a benchmark is like a camel without electric toothbrush
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Benchmarking could be slightly usefull when comparing different roms though optimalizations that are specifically made to reduce boottime, remove lag or whatever might not show up in te scores.
Using benchmarks to compare phones is definately useless, for example because Android forces you to run apps in the native phone resolution. The Note runs at 1280x800 which means any phone with a similar GPU but lower resolution like the standard 800x480 could synthetically outperform the Note.
Just to throw another point in there I know it can be easily disputed but take for example iOS and windows phone.
Windows phones are limited to single core and they still run smoothly due to optimization.
the latest iPhone 4s has a dual core A5s @ 800mhz, yet it still runs smoothly.
As mentioned above in the thread the only real way is to try out the phone for yourself.
Dude, it's obvious you're no scientist. You haven't proved anything trying to connect benchmark scores with stability and force closes. The only thing a benchmark could indicate is possibly smoothness. It's all about you simply trying different ROMs and finding one that is subjectively working best for you.
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Benchmarks generally test specific capabilities of hardware: arithmetic calculations, GPU performance, etc.
That being the case they are a good yard stick for how the HARDWARE of different devices compare in terms of performance for the most part. Although software and the OS do obviously play their part, the tests are generally targeted at exercising specific aspects of the 'computer' rather than the overall OS.
OS performance is another, much more complex, aspect that benchmarks struggle to cater for. Small changes in benchmark scores between different ROMs is unlikely to tell us much. Somebody who reviews those ROMs and give a fair summary of the overall performance, stability, etc is a much better guide (like the OP, in this case - after a fashion!)
Check Rom is '****ty'?
What utter claptrap. Only proves you have no idea about how to set your phone up properly.
As for the battery issue, really? I've been running checkrom on 3 notes(mine,my wifes and my dads) and never had fcs, battery issues.
Benchmarks are for people like you.
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the Check rom is the Most ****ty Rom i have used among all of these Roms. by the time i installed it, my phone started giving me ****ty issues.
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Yo, Benchmarker, watch your language.
Calling any development '****ty' just showcases your poor manners, egomania and general absence of intelligent thinking.
The devs give you something for free.
You don't like it, move on. And keep shtum about it. That's what people with manners do.
I wish you luck in your future benchmarking endeavors, and hope never to hear about them.
Benchmarks don't prove a ****. But I do it every time I try out a new kernel and waste 5 precious minutes of my life.
By the way, calling Checkrom ****ty was insult of all checkrom devs and ultimately an insult of xda itself, we are here because of all these devs.
You simply could have said it had lowest benchmarks or even it was sub par.
May I hope that next time you will carry general code of conduct and keep your ****ty opinions within your skull ?
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Yo, Benchmarker, watch your language.
Calling any development '****ty' just showcases your poor manners, egomania and general absence of intelligent thinking.
The devs give you something for free.
You don't like it, move on. And keep shtum about it. That's what people with manners do.
I wish you luck in your future benchmarking endeavors, and hope never to hear about them.
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That's what I'm talking about.
Don't benchmark the OS and mobile, but benchmark your brain that is it capable enough to run that device at its fullest without the need of any score to prove anything.
Just my 2 cents.
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hence proved, Benchmark Results Do make a difference!
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where have you proved anything? you really are a bit deluded arent you
Benchmark are valuable in terms of relative comparison to the same benchmark.
Benchmark just don't correlate well to real world performance.
IE: Note LTE ATT on speed app runs 15-20 M's, mine runs 7-9 in same location. Same network. Yet download Engadget simultaneously and they're even.
Benchmarks prove nothing.
/wisdom
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Benchmarks prove nothing.
/wisdom
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Benchmarks prove everything.
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Zamboney said:
Dude, it's obvious you're no scientist. You haven't proved anything trying to connect benchmark scores with stability and force closes. The only thing a benchmark could indicate is possibly smoothness. It's all about you simply trying different ROMs and finding one that is subjectively working best for you.
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i really dont understand why some people dont understand what the main point some statement is. its quite simple, nothing scientific and i did not talk about any technicalities. see for your self, the more smoother the ROM is the more better the Hardware of the phone is going with the build of the ROM that's obvious, right? now that would mean more room for the hardware of the phone to be available for better benchmark results.
aami.aami said:
i really dont understand why some people dont understand what the main point some statement is. its quite simple, nothing scientific and i did not talk about any technicalities. see for your self, the more smoother the ROM is the more better the Hardware of the phone is going with the build of the ROM that's obvious, right? now that would mean more room for the hardware of the phone to be available for better benchmark results.
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probably but not necessarily, correlation does not mean causation,
each benchmark result is moreless the weighted average of few or more individual test results - now let's take Quadrant, which is (was?) heavily biased towards 3D graphics performance - how much is that representative of ROM performance under typical (non-gaming) phone usage?
PS.
Benchmarks may matter. Size matters more.
(Anyone telling otherwise is either ashamed or trying to be nice)
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One thing apple got google and its oem beats. Dont fking look at the hardware and benchmark. Look at the user experience. Not saying ios and iphone is great for the folks who like to tinker. But for a dual core 800mhz iphone4 or ipad2 it sure runs a lot smoother than a note with stock touchwiz or some other launcher. Afterall u r using ur device, ur own judgement should tell u how good the device is not some program score. And there will always room for hardware improvement, but can the software follows? How many app is actually utilizing multi core process?
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put new Kernels you will see big different in benchmark.
From my experience testing roms + kernels I see that benchmarks really nothing
I got with Antutu benchamrk with stock rom and stock kernel about 6900 score
but it was so laggy and battery sucks. atm using Chrack´s rom extra small + speedmod v10 and its perfect no lags good battery life smooth but the benchmark sucked got like 4500. So benchmarks aren't the way to chose a rom otherwise there is no need to test and share experience with people
Hello there!
I've got an idea to make a post-poll to see what scores Antutu Benchmark is giving us in the Shield Tablet on any ROM, like CM11, Stock, etc.
Mine (WiFi-only model) got 53.844 points, with the latest stock firmware (1.2.1) and Antutu Benchmark 5.1.. Also, it was set to Max. Performance mode..
I also made a video, you can check it here:
What are your best scores with the Shield Tablet?
(And sorry for my bad english lol)
Of course, I didn't mentioned it, but It'd be nice to compare scores between roms, so, if you're using a different rom than stock, like CM11, please post it, so that we know which rom has best performance
56674
Settings > SHIELD Power Control > Processor Mode: Using Max Performance
Stock 2.2.1 update, no root.
hapihakr said:
Settings > SHIELD Power Control > Processor Mode: Using Max Performance
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In mine with 2.2.1 rooted I got the other days around 57 thousand and something, what a pity I didn't take any screenshot :silly:
(Also on max performance)
linuxct said:
Of course, I didn't mentioned it, but It'd be nice to compare scores between roms, so, if you're using a different rom than stock, like CM11, please post it, so that we know which rom has best performance
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The ROM that has the highest Antutu score, and the ROM that has the best performance could (most probably) be different. It's been proven time and time again that benchmarks mean little when it comes to real world performance.
stock and shaky kernel
Before 62000 couples times stock, shaky kernel, booster plus and battery saver,busyboox ,CPU tuner and shield in my power mode full
Right now 59326 with stock,shaky,booster plus,busybox,device control,CPU tuner,auto kill apk and shield in my power mode.
57,340
always one guy that just has to remind us that benchmarks don't necessarily mean your going to have a good experience across the board, yeah bud, we know, this is XDA, it's fun to benchmark, get over it. [rant off]
anywho, I'm stock, unlocked, and rooted with titanium to freeze apps and CWM for backups.
got a 56,593 & 57,340 Whoot!
Here's a recent one on mine. I want to hit 65k but that will likely require a GPU OC among other optimizations.
Pilz said:
Here's a recent one on mine. I want to hit 65k but that will likely require a GPU OC among other optimizations.
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How so much, custom kernel & overclock?????
cyraxx84 said:
How so much, custom kernel & overclock?????
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I OC'd my CPU to 2.5ghz and that's was about it. I'm running BitOsessions kernel on my stock Shield Tablet. I did another one a while ago that hit 63k but I can't find my screenshot so I'm working to get past that again.
Here's another one I did when I dropped the resolution from 1080 FHD to 720 HD.
Accidental double post... Delete
90009 on Stock Rooted MM ROM...
I got 84071 on mine
Edit: re-did the test after installing the latest update and got 84767
About 91500 on latest antutu 6.01. Stock 6.0 rooted and debloated.
Beat Y'all If you can
Screenshot Or it Didn't Happened
Nvidia Stock LP v5.1.1, rooted, no "performance related" modifications to speak of.
highest: 82517
average: 81842 (based on reboot then running Antutu v6.0.1 6 times in a row, scores increased on each run until the sixth)
FoxyDrew said:
The ROM that has the highest Antutu score, and the ROM that has the best performance could (most probably) be different. It's been proven time and time again that benchmarks mean little when it comes to real world performance.
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I completely disagree with this without meaning to be rude because every person suffers from confirmation bias and "self benchmarking" is one area where it effects everybody greatly.
To the extent that people can have very different experiences on exactly the same hardware and software as a matter of routine - and no one can know that it has ocurred since it's automatic.
Benchmarks are the in fact the only way to measure objectively IME and opinion.
This is certainly not to say that anyone has a better or worse experience though as you point out, that i agree with.
Antutu Benchmark
No root/no debloat - MM 6.0.1
Hello,
Fairly new to the entire thing but I will get straight to it.
I have a SM-G935T Snapdragon in the USA, I am looking for a kernel for overclocking the device. At the moment what I have done is what I presume is a "lite" root custom on the stock 7.0 with supersu and Flashfire. I have tried using kernel adiutor and a few other apps that let you choose different settings but nothing seems to have any substantial effects on the benchmark scores.
As a note; the s7 edge is strictly dedicated to gaming purposes, I have debloated it and it has no SIM installed, it has a battery bank case and will spend most of its time plugged in or near a wall outlet, it is being treated as a mobile gaming platform. I have a Note3 specifically for taking with me as a phone.
With that said battery life is not a concerning factor I am looking for a decent overclocked kernel for the Snapdragon version, so far all I have seen is Exynos and stuff from other countries that don't match my 935t.
I'm likely overlooking something but any help would 've appreciated, doing it manually doesn't super interest me, I'm looking for a flash and go solution for this model that isn't going to trip app security searches.
Thanks!
RegalPaw said:
Hello,
Fairly new to the entire thing but I will get straight to it.
I have a SM-G935T Snapdragon in the USA, I am looking for a kernel for overclocking the device. At the moment what I have done is what I presume is a "lite" root custom on the stock 7.0 with supersu and Flashfire. I have tried using kernel adiutor and a few other apps that let you choose different settings but nothing seems to have any substantial effects on the benchmark scores.
As a note; the s7 edge is strictly dedicated to gaming purposes, I have debloated it and it has no SIM installed, it has a battery bank case and will spend most of its time plugged in or near a wall outlet, it is being treated as a mobile gaming platform. I have a Note3 specifically for taking with me as a phone.
With that said battery life is not a concerning factor I am looking for a decent overclocked kernel for the Snapdragon version, so far all I have seen is Exynos and stuff from other countries that don't match my 935t.
I'm likely overlooking something but any help would 've appreciated, doing it manually doesn't super interest me, I'm looking for a flash and go solution for this model that isn't going to trip app security searches.
Thanks!
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I'm just going to preface things by saying benchmarks are not indicative of actual improved performance. There are numerous ways in which manufacturers can cheat benchmarks such that when you overclock you may not see improvements.
I'd suggest actually finding out if you overclocks through kernel auditor are actually working, download and run this to check if the cpu frequency maxes out at the one you set.
If the overclock is working as intended then the benchmarks are just not showing it due to other factors. More likely is that the overclock is not supported on your stock kernel so you'll need to flash a custom one with overclocking enabled,
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I appreciate the reply, the issue is that none of the apps will actually go beyond the big cores 2.1ghz and the smalls 1.6ghz. My only options that I do have are basically enabling "performance" but the cores will still throttle even when Temps are 30c. What I'm saying is I have found nothing that has given me the freedom to actually attempt over clocking at all anyway and nothing will peak the cores as they say they should, even with supersu granted.
Hopefully that makes sense.
I took a screenshot of monitoring during a benchmark, so what's interesting is sometimes I get a 3D Mark Slingshot Extreme score of 2700ish and other times, more often than not, I get 1600 and looking at the graph, the cpu is up and down and all over the place like a bouncy castle in a birthday party but it's barely going over 1.2ghz on any core even during the cpu test and there is a massively noticeable difference even in benchmark and games. I have to restart the phome, wait for several minutes, clear the ram, wait a little more and then I might get a couple of good scores but I'm thrown right back into the bouncy castle throttling. I have a screenshot but I can't post it because I can't give links with less than 10 posts.
I've tried kernel editors, they don't stick anything and read false speeds, and the integrated performance mode seems to do nothing but make it brighter and change the resolution to 1440p.
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I appreciate the reply, the issue is that none of the apps will actually go beyond the big cores 2.1ghz and the smalls 1.6ghz. My only options that I do have are basically enabling "performance" but the cores will still throttle even when Temps are 30c. What I'm saying is I have found nothing that has given me the freedom to actually attempt over clocking at all anyway and nothing will peak the cores as they say they should, even with supersu granted.
Hopefully that makes sense.
I took a screenshot of monitoring during a benchmark, so what's interesting is sometimes I get a 3D Mark Slingshot Extreme score of 2700ish and other times, more often than not, I get 1600 and looking at the graph, the cpu is up and down and all over the place like a bouncy castle in a birthday party but it's barely going over 1.2ghz on any core even during the cpu test and there is a massively noticeable difference even in benchmark and games. I have to restart the phome, wait for several minutes, clear the ram, wait a little more and then I might get a couple of good scores but I'm thrown right back into the bouncy castle throttling. I have a screenshot but I can't post it because I can't give links with less than 10 posts.
I've tried kernel editors, they don't stick anything and read false speeds, and the integrated performance mode seems to do nothing but make it brighter and change the resolution to 1440p.
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Sounds like you'll need a custom kernel. Unfortunately I'm not actually aware of any on the S7 Edge Snapdragon.
randomhkkid said:
Sounds like you'll need a custom kernel. Unfortunately I'm not actually aware of any on the S7 Edge Snapdragon.
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Thumbs up for trying, if anyone knows of a kernel I can flash I'd happily accept it, even if it's as simple as keeping the cpu from dropping all over the place.
RegalPaw said:
Thumbs up for trying, if anyone knows of a kernel I can flash I'd happily accept it, even if it's as simple as keeping the cpu from dropping all over the place.
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I may be able to help with the latter. If you are able to flash xposed and install the Wanam Xposed toolkit you can disable DVFS controls, this should help with the throttling.
This applies for overclocking when playing games only.
There's an app made by Samsung itself called 'Game Tuner'. I've checked that when i run an app through game tuner the average cpu frequency is much higher than when i run it without game tuner. Also the device get noticably warmer with game tuner. So in my knowledge this is the only way you can overclock your s7 edge without rooting