Really makes it a ***** to use while plugged in. Also, since I'm complaining. How about less programmable keys and instead give us a space bar that's a decent size....
Still the best phone I've ever owned, but do the powers that be really incorporate design choices on purpose to give us something to aspire for?
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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Really makes it a ***** to use while plugged in.
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Not that this is a reason...but Blackberries have the charge-port on the side -- a lot of them do anyway.
When you're using a phone like the G2 (or my TP2) in landscape I think it's better on the side. That way it hangs straight down between my hands, rather than where my right hand is (as it is on my TP2). But...yeah, not good in portrait mode.
I personally think it's much, much better on the side. I usually hold the phone with my right hand so it doesn't get in the way when I'm using it in portrait, and having it on the side is a godsend when using it in landscape.
I assume most people use their phone 90% of the time in portrait mode. But yes, in landscape it's fine. I spent the summer on an iPhone after using a rooted G1 for 18 months (cyanogen of course).
The only things I miss from jailbroken iPhone are 1) Bottom plug, 2) virtual keyboard (Swype/Stock/Swift still don't come close FOR ME), 3) Home Button/Track Pad press to wake up screen, 5) SBSettings and 4) WORDS WITH FRIENDS!!!!!
Otherwise it's like a breath of fresh air being back on Android. I'm confident that 4 of those 5 things will be fixed if root ever gets implemented.
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On my nexus and touch slide the port was on the bottom. I liked it for when I charged my phone while driving. If it had to be on a side, I would prefer the other side. Love this phone though.
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I'll use it 90% of the time without the cord plugged in at all.
I charge overnight and am not a heavy user.
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I'll use it 90% of the time without the cord plugged in at all.
I charge overnight and am not a heavy user.
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Good point. I know once this phones novelty wears off I won't have it plugged in so much lol.
Im glad they put it on the side. If they put it on the bottom it would be hard to TYPE on the keyboard.
Much worse if you ask me.
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Im glad they put it on the side. If they put it on the bottom it would be hard to TYPE on the keyboard.
Much worse if you ask me.
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Well if you spend more time typing on the physical keyboard than you do doing browsing, twitter, music, games, and making phone calls.. then yeah. Sure. I use the keyboard for long emails and message board posts. That's not the majority of my day realistically though.
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Well if you spend more time typing on the physical keyboard than you do doing browsing, twitter, music, games, and making phone calls.. then yeah. Sure. I use the keyboard for long emails and message board posts. That's not the majority of my day realistically though.
Hey does anybody else get aroused by their benchmarks?
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The part about X-Ray Specs gets me goin a bit...
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Well if you spend more time typing on the physical keyboard than you do doing browsing, twitter, music, games, and making phone calls.. then yeah. Sure. I use the keyboard for long emails and message board posts. That's not the majority of my day realistically though.
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Fair enough. Different preference for different users. I text more than I do any other function on my phone. Honestly though? I like how they did it on the Moto Droid. On the side but up closer to the top.
It's on the side so that it will work in a car dock, which I'd love to see one of.
For me, the ***** is microUSB. That tiny tab in there is going to break, and then I'm boned. MiniUSB would have fit, and it's so much stronger!
My N900 had it on the top and it was impossible to use when plugged in.. I for one am glad its on the side.
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I assume most people use their phone 90% of the time in portrait mode. But yes, in landscape it's fine. I spent the summer on an iPhone after using a rooted G1 for 18 months (cyanogen of course).
The only things I miss from jailbroken iPhone are 1) Bottom plug, 2) virtual keyboard (Swype/Stock/Swift still don't come close FOR ME), 3) Home Button/Track Pad press to wake up screen, 5) SBSettings and 4) WORDS WITH FRIENDS!!!!!
Otherwise it's like a breath of fresh air being back on Android. I'm confident that 4 of those 5 things will be fixed if root ever gets implemented.
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Check out Wordfeud. I just discovered it this past week but me and a few of my other Android friends have been having a blast with it. You can also play against random people.
usb port on the side isn't that bad unless your trying to type. then its a pain. still don't like micro usb always plug in the wrong side also feels kind of flimsy.
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Check out Wordfeud. I just discovered it this past week but me and a few of my other Android friends have been having a blast with it. You can also play against random people.
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Yeah I'm using Wordfeud now for my WWF fix. It's like a poor mans version. Drab black color and the "V" is only worth 4 points lol.
Also, yeah, I'm not saying to put the plug at the top, but raise it to the top of the side or put it where the *gasp* iphone put their plug. Bottom center.
It's for easy Landscape DOCKING!
If you buy a docking device for your desk of for your car where do you think the USB port should be?
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It's for easy Landscape DOCKING!
If you buy a docking device for your desk of for your car where do you think the USB port should be?
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Yeah, because the majority of users use a desk/car dock instead of holding their phone.
I'd have greatly preferred it on the other side (the one with the camera button); this would allow it to be used on a dock (who uses the keyboard when it's docked?! flip the screen!), while at the same time allowing you to prop it up on a desk and have it charge while still being able to quickly pick it up to type a response to a text or tweet. As it is now, to charge on a desk it HAS to be either face up or face-down.. and I shudder to think about trying to use a dock and quickly reply to anything. But I can understand why they didn't... look under the screen with it lifted up half-open, the z-hinge takes up a lot of space.
Even having it on the bottom would have been an improvement. And seconded on the micro-USB port... all my other gear uses mini-USB. Now I have to go buy another micro-USB cable to charge at work versus home, or be hassled in carrying the cable back and forth.
Battery life seems to be a hell of a lot better than the G1 at least. Which is now my 'backup phone' at work, in case I forget the damned charging cable for the G2.
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Not that this is a reason...but Blackberries have the charge-port on the side -- a lot of them do anyway.
When you're using a phone like the G2 (or my TP2) in landscape I think it's better on the side. That way it hangs straight down between my hands, rather than where my right hand is (as it is on my TP2). But...yeah, not good in portrait mode.
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speaking of blackberry...i really wish the g2 has the metal magnet charging ports like the blackberry. those metal contacts on the bottom of the blackberry have made charging the phone sooo much easier. i miss that feature... i know the n1 has that but the dock cost like $50 but hey if the g2 had that i would be all over it especially if ur tryin to charge ur fone wen ur drunk it is really hard.
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I have had nothing but bum g2's since the beginning.
the original one i bought had the loosest hinges ever. i couldnt lay on my back and slide my keyboard open while i had it facing me. the screen would just over lap due to the hinges.
i called tmobile and they sent me a replacement.
that replacement had scratches all over the place and came with a dirty glove with the initials AJ on them.
called tmobile,
2nd device had a dent in the speaker grill
called tmobile
3rd device was perfect, but wouldnt even power on no matter what i did
called tmobile
4th device was missing that sd card tray thinggy, it just wasnt there
called tmobile
5th device lasted a week before i noticed that one of the hinges was incredibly loose and the other was tight
called tmobile
6th device liked to turn off on its own and vibrate till i pulled the battery out. i wiped everything via recovery and it still did it. i unrooted and it still did it.
called tmobile
after one month on this 7nth device my hinges are incredibly loose again. and i dont want to follow a how to on how to remedy or fix this. although i understand that wear n tear can be a MOFO i dont think htc should be making devices with questionable hinges or build quality issues.
im calling tmobile now, been on hold for almost 50 minutes and i just dont want the g2 anymore. i love this phone, i really do. but if my hinges r gonna keep fking up on me then its just not worh it.
do u think tmobile will take back my g2 and give me something else? i dont mind paying a little extra if i have to. any advice?
When I worked for them they have an alternative handset replacement program and also gave out new handsets instead of refurbs after a few exchanges. Tell them you want a NEW device sent out as their refurbs suck. Ask for a manager if need be.
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When I worked for them they have an alternative handset replacement program and also gave out new handsets instead of refurbs after a few exchanges. Tell them you want a NEW device sent out as their refurbs suck. Ask for a manager if need be.
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im still on hold
from what i gather, since the g2 is still a new model, they wont replace under that alternative handset replacement program
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im still on hold
from what i gather, since the g2 is still a new model, they wont replace under that alternative handset replacement program
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Tell them to make an exception. That is a ridiculous amount of replacements and completely unacceptable! Put your foot down, bro. Keep escalating and making their lives harder and harder!
Good luck
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Tell them to make an exception. That is a ridiculous amount of replacements and completely unacceptable! Put your foot down, bro. Keep escalating and making their lives harder and harder!
Good luck
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lol ill keep u posted
i was offered a moto charm....
being transferred to a super now....
super wants 267 for a mytouch 4g....
Do you even use your keyboard? i dont have the hinge problem but since i dont use the keyboard i use double sidded tape to keep mine shut and for it not to get loose from wear and tear. dont use the industrial kind just the one thats sticky enough to hold it shut but weak enough to come off easy when ever you really need to use the keyboard.
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1st ones hinges were so loose i couldnt hold the phone upside down with out the screens half completely separating from the keyboard half.
i had the first one for hardly a month, i want a nice clean refurb... not one with a dent in the speaker grill! thats unacceptable.
how can i fix with parts?! after i got a replacement i had to send in the previous device! besides, as a consumer i shouldnt have to fiddle with the oems device just to get it to work.
5th one was not fine. when held upside down, the top half had a larger separation than the bottom half. every time i pull the keyboard open, it had a wobble to it. thats not fine.
the 7nth one is not fine, screen literally opens in my pocket! how is that fine?!
i complain because i dropped my hard earned $ on a device that i really wanted and i expect it to work no matter what for atleast a year. i do all my typing on the physical qwerty, all of it. and if htc didnt think about people like my that prefer a physical qwerty over an on screen qwerty while they were designing their g2. then thats on them.
i guess i just have higher standards.....
tmobile is sending me a mytouch4g, didnt have to pay a dime. not even for express shipping. although its evident that the squeeky wheel always gets the grease, i didnt want to go this route.
i really love the g2, didnt want to swap out for another model. but i know if i accept another g2 the hinges will eventually get weak on me again...
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Do you even use your keyboard? i dont have the hinge problem but since i dont use the keyboard i use double sidded tape to keep mine shut and for it not to get loose from wear and tear. dont use the industrial kind just the one thats sticky enough to hold it shut but weak enough to come off easy when ever you really need to use the keyboard.
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im about 10% onscreen qwerty and 90% physical qwerty
my wife has had her g2 since day one and never ever used the physical qwerty. her hinges feel brand new everytime
This hinge issue is getting out of hand. It has been said many times that there is (practically) no way the hidge should be able to fall on its own if you hold it normally just like everyone else. If you hold the phone from the keyboard side upside down with the screen facing the floor, of course the phone is going to open up. You're forcing the phone to open that way.
I understand that $500 is a lot to shell out on a phone, but, the way I see it you're looking for the perfect device
You're not going to get it.
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Have u ever complained to tmobile on there twitter page? I did that twice for similar issues and got the best results that way. I did that recently and not only was I shipped a brand new replacement not a refurb which I'm sure phones 2 through 7 were. I also got credited the original cost for my phone making the new replacement free. Not only that my contract was also reset so that I could get a full upgrade on any new phone coming out. It truly is all about who and how you speak to someone at tmobile. The twitter page has worked twice for me with the same results. The complaints are answered by corporate from twitter.
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This hinge issue is getting out of hand. It has been said many times that there is (practically) no way the hidge should be able to fall on its own if you hold it normally just like everyone else. If you hold the phone from the keyboard side upside down with the screen facing the floor, of course the phone is going to open up. You're forcing the phone to open that way.
I understand that $500 is a lot to shell out on a phone, but, the way I see it you're looking for the perfect device
You're not going to get it.
Sent from my HTC Vision running GingerVillain 1.4
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my wife had her g2 since it was first released. i just slid the keyboard open and held it upside down. the screen didnt close, at all. if you carefully and slowly flip it upside down it shouldnt close at all.
i wasnt looking for the perfect device. im ok with the crappy battery life. im also ok with that yellowish tint on the screen. but when your g2 is actually sliding open in your pocket while u run after your kid....
then theres a problem.
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Have u ever complained to tmobile on there twitter page? I did that twice for similar issues and got the best results that way. I did that recently and not only was I shipped a brand new replacement not a refurb which I'm sure phones 2 through 7 were. I also got credited the original cost for my phone making the new replacement free. Not only that my contract was also reset so that I could get a full upgrade on any new phone coming out. It truly is all about who and how you speak to someone at tmobile. The twitter page has worked twice for me with the same results. The complaints are answered by corporate from twitter.
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i have but i havnt had those type of results
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No need to get so personal.
Like I said bro, u can tip my wifes g2 upside down and the screen will not seperate from its position. Her hinges are new. Probably because she uses her on screen qwerty 90% of the time.
I think I've had enough g2's to know that these hinges do loosen up. Which is expected, but not so damn soon.
My friend across the street has a g2. His hinges r solid as hell. But he never ever uses the keyboard because he loves swype. 2 of my classmates have g2's. One is about as loose as mines and the other not so much. And the list of people I know that own g2s go on and on.
These hinges do wear out. there's a few here who do claim to still have perfect hinges n consider themselves power users. Although I havnt seen it with my own eyes I do believe them. I had a friend who had a 1 year old sidekick lx that had a solid screen hinge. No wobble what so ever.
So plz dhkr123, gratz on having such strong n sturdy hinges.
I think what is going on is htc is making phones they know will all be gone in 2 years.. why make a smartphone last forever if is the slowest think on the block before it brakes?. I agree we should demand a quality product but I don't think we should hold our breath for a re-enforced carbon steel hinge.
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I think the hinges being "loose" or not is all down to personal preference, I was trying a friends sony ericssion xperia x10 mini pro, and the you have to put a bit of force to slide the keyboard out and i just don't think it feels nice. I like taking my phone out of my pocket with one hand and just being able to slide out the keyboard with my thumb, but thats me on the other hand i'm pretty sure the cable connecting the phone to the screen is fried on mine.. must send it back for repair... at least I like my hinges
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I think what is going on is htc is making phones they know will all be gone in 2 years.. why make a smartphone last forever if is the slowest think on the block before it brakes?. I agree we should demand a quality product but I don't think we should hold our breath for a re-enforced carbon steel hinge.
G2 CM6.1.1 (free)
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I agree. I'm not sure if it can be called a design flaw or what. But my old n97 never ever loosened up on me. Same thing with my n900. My g1 got a bit loose but u could hardly notice it. My gsm pre plus got super loose on me. My mytouch 3g slide actually stayed very firm. It would make sense to design something that can atleast last a year. I understand wear and tear, that's a given and should be expected. But not to the point to where my screen actually wobbles a bit too much when in the closed position.
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I think the hinges being "loose" or not is all down to personal preference, I was trying a friends sony ericssion xperia x10 mini pro, and the you have to put a bit of force to slide the keyboard out and i just don't think it feels nice. I like taking my phone out of my pocket with one hand and just being able to slide out the keyboard with my thumb, but thats me on the other hand i'm pretty sure the cable connecting the phone to the screen is fried on mine.. must send it back for repair... at least I like my hinges
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The x10mp is definately too tight.
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Here's my review of it:
I am typing this on my new Verbatim foldup bluetooth keyboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823301007
The video from my Galaxy S is a bit dark, but I didn't want to get a glare on the screen so I left the camera light off.
Pros: Compact, has all the main keys including number keys with shifted characters ([email protected]#...), and arrow keys. Locks into open (or closed) position, so you can still use it in your lap without a flat surface. Leather case is cheap but acceptable. Reminds me of my old Blackberry holster, but has a snap instead of a magnetic closure. Lightweight. Good price for what you're getting.
Has a stand that you can pull out of the keyboard that is completely separate from the keyboard that will prop your phone or other smaller device up at various angles. It doesn't weigh enough to support a tablet though.
Cons: Manual switch to turn it on / off. Construction is fairly good, but there's a noticeable bulging gap when closed - doesn't completely meet the other edge down the long side. Four little rubber feet that extend out of the case on the outside, so are still out when closed - likely to be sheered off at some point through wear.
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Looks interesting. If I'm going to have a keyboard, folding up is a must for me because I'd use it while traveling and space is at a premium.
Verbatim Black Bluetooth Wireless Mini Keyboard
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I thought you can not connect anything other than headset via bluetooth since proper profiles for connection are not there. if you decide to try then please let us all know if you were able to make it work and your feedback on the device itself
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I went ahead and ordered one today. I'll keep you posted. It should be here by Thursday or Friday - depending on what warehouse it ships from.
This looks very similar to the Palm 3245WW keyboard and the Palm keyboard works perfectly with my A500. I suspect that just about any BT keyboard would work.
I'm also interested in the review of this!
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This looks very similar to the Palm 3245WW keyboard and the Palm keyboard works perfectly with my A500. I suspect that just about any BT keyboard would work.
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How much did you buy it for and where ?
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How much did you buy it for and where ?
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I got it from Amazon.com years ago when Palm T|X was first released. It was on sale for around $25, which was a steal even back then. I don't think the Palm branded ones are being produced anymore, but the Palm keyboards were just rebranded Think Outside keyboards, which are still being produced/sold, but those are still pretty pricey (+/- US$70).
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I thought you can not connect anything other than headset via bluetooth since proper profiles for connection are not there. if you decide to try then please let us all know if you were able to make it work and your feedback on the device itself
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You connect to and use bluetooth keyboards as of now just no mouse until 3.1
I have used my Logitech Media Board for the PS3 and a Ipad keyboard with no issues. (Both are bluetooth)
I updated my first post above with the actual review including video and photos.
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I updated my first post above with the actual review including video and photos.
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Bottom line question: Is it worth $70?
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Bottom line question: Is it worth $70?
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I guess that all depends on how bad you want a fold up bt keyboard. I paid $130 for my last one (Think Outside?) for my old pocket pc device and it broke in the hinge after less than 30 uses. This one shouldn't have that problem. Just don't sit on it ;-)
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I guess that all depends on how bad you want a fold up bt keyboard. I paid $130 for my last one (Think Outside?) for my old pocket pc device and it broke in the hinge after less than 30 uses. This one shouldn't have that problem. Just don't sit on it ;-)
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It just seems to me that $70 is pretty steep for a keyboard. It better make me breakfast and jump in and out of my pocket for that price. But I guess that's where they are all at nowadays.
solit tek blue tooth
I have a solidtek brand Bluetooth keyboard it works perfect with anything I put it on.including my cheap android zip phone.it has built in touch pad mouse that is not working in android.bohooo.great little keyboard but pricy
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I've tried with iGo Stowaway Ultra-Slim Bluetooth Keyboard :
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It just seems to me that $70 is pretty steep for a keyboard. It better make me breakfast and jump in and out of my pocket for that price. But I guess that's where they are all at nowadays.
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I agree, but almost all bluetooth accessories of any sort are overpriced when you think about it. It's only been recently that you could get reasonably priced BT earpieces. Probably partly due to licensing issues with the BT standards.
Other than the little thumb keyboards (which I don't want,) I don't see any that are much cheaper if at all, and certainly none that fold up like this one. The Logitech is the same price and doesn't fold. I saw others around $30 that had horrible reviews and were made of a flexible rubber.
So, for what's on the market, it seems fair-priced. For buyer value perception... maybe not.
why will you guys need a keyboard since it defeats the purpose of using a tablet
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Some are using this as a laptop (not me).
Why use a keyboard?
This is a very capable computing device that happens to have a touchscreen.
If I'm gonna write, I'm going for the keyboard. If I'm looking at pictures or mild web browsing, I go for the screen...
Knowing which tool to use for the right job is one of the things I often teach my students.
The reason I got the tablet was so I didn't have to tote my serious laptop around. I have a powerhouse of a laptop computer that I do all my Solidworks / Rhino / Photoshop / Illustrator / ProTools on. The downside is that, while it is Exceedingly capable - more so than most of my friend's desktop computers - I do pay a price in portability.
I am willing to tote it where it needs to be for work and productivity, but if I don't have to, I'd rather not...aaaand that's where the tablet comes in.
It's doing a Wonderful job at what I'm asking of it...
I am willing to tote around a small, lightweight, wireless keyboard if it allows me to do 99% of the things I can do on laptop...AND I can leave the keyboard behind if I need to be that svelte for some reason.
..but that's me...Your Mileage May Vary
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I have found over the years of using PDA's, phones, and now tablets that people who can touch type typically want a real keyboard accessory of some kind. Those who type with two fingers don't typically care. Not making any judgements or theories on your typing skills -- just stating what I've noticed.
If I'm doing a little typing, I'll just use the screen keyboard. But if I'm typing a long email, post on a forum, letter, etc., it's great to have a keyboard, especially if it's very portable.
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That's why I wanted foldup. Doesn't take much space and easy to flip open when needed.
I can VPN to work and then ssh into servers or workstations for diagnostics/testing. Something you'd usually use a laptop for. I can do it without the keyboard, but it's 10 times faster than a touchscreen for me.
Why does this phone have to be so cool? So many features most android phones nowadays don't have. Multi-color trackball, LED notification, sexy design... Gosh why does it have to be one year old I have a samsung vibrant, and while people say it is better, I disagree completely. I am hoping to pick a Nexus One up on craigslist for 180 (good deal?). Don't care what people think, this phone is rad.
HTC, Please make the Nexus 3, and please make it like the original Nexus. Beleive it or not, some people do want a multi-color trackball and LED notification. I would get the Samsung Nexus S, too bad it is too plasticy and is missing key features from the first Nexus.
Anyone else agree with me?
I agree completely.
Yea I completely agree ...
The trackball is one of my favorite features...
plus it feels to sturdy and it can handle a good beating!
I used to love watching the nexus videos on utube .... the nexus S came with nothing much.... no trackball and cheap plastic ...
It's annoying HTC doesn't put the trackball on any other phones now. I know a lot people don't want it, but I would love to have it Imagine the Sensation with the Trackball
I love my Nexus One so much I have no idea what my next phone would be. What I'd really like is for my next phone to be identical to my current N1 but with updated specs. It's now 1 1/2 years old now and still going strong.
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Why does this phone have to be so cool? So many features most android phones nowadays don't have. Multi-color trackball, LED notification, sexy design... Gosh why does it have to be one year old I have a samsung vibrant, and while people say it is better, I disagree completely. I am hoping to pick a Nexus One up on craigslist for 180 (good deal?). Don't care what people think, this phone is rad.
HTC, Please make the Nexus 3, and please make it like the original Nexus. Beleive it or not, some people do want a multi-color trackball and LED notification. I would get the Samsung Nexus S, too bad it is too plasticy and is missing key features from the first Nexus.
Anyone else agree with me?
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I like the Nexus One is a very solid device here are things I hate:
1. Outdoor visibility screen just doesn't cut it on a sunny day.
2. Screen sometimes just doesn't work (nothing too serious but annoying)
3. Battery just gives up in 8hr (Like most phones )
4. Camera is nothing to die for, my 2008 Nokia takes better pics (personal preference I take alot of Pictures)
5. Internal storage sucks especially if you don't root or use alot of apps
6. Speaker isn't the best either.
I think for 200 buck is a super good device but you can find a G2x for 350 or less might be a worth it of a big rooter.
josemedina1983 said:
I like the Nexus One is a very solid device here are things I hate:
1. Outdoor visibility screen just doesn't cut it on a sunny day.
2. Screen sometimes just doesn't work (nothing too serious but annoying)
3. Battery just gives up in 8hr (Like most phones )
4. Camera is nothing to die for, my 2008 Nokia takes better pics (personal preference I take alot of Pictures)
5. Internal storage sucks especially if you don't root or use alot of apps
6. Speaker isn't the best either.
I think for 200 buck is a super good device but you can find a G2x for 350 or less might be a worth it of a big rooter.
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I mean do you ACTUALLY hate those things? Or is it just because the phone is dated and there is a newer (better?) standard?
Also, at this point, I'm not even hoping for a trackball-- I'd settle for an optical trackpad (if they'd even give us that; notice how newer phones *cough sensation* don't even have that?)!!
Although, a prominent and customizable multicolored LED is still an absolute must, whether it be around the trackball (g2) or separate from (i don't like that little tiny green hidden dot hidden in the speaker grill of the sensation- it's not noticeable enough.)
nexus 3 by htc..
second gen snapdragon
everything that the n1 has
qwerty keyboard
physical buttons + call/end-call buttons + camera shutter button
now that would be something..
sarshadd said:
I mean do you ACTUALLY hate those things? Or is it just because the phone is dated and there is a newer (better?) standard?
Also, at this point, I'm not even hoping for a trackball-- I'd settle for an optical trackpad (if they'd even give us that; notice how newer phones *cough sensation* don't even have that?)!!
Although, a prominent and customizable multicolored LED is still an absolute must, whether it be around the trackball (g2) or separate from (i don't like that little tiny green hidden dot hidden in the speaker grill of the sensation- it's not noticeable enough.)
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Those are my main issues but I really really hate the memory space,battery and screen visibility especially on a sunny day.
Don't forget the Antenna. It sucks also. In my office I get the worst reception out of everyone. Overall I like the N1 alot and plan on getting the N3 when it comes out.
I get the best reception in my office, which I like to remind the fruit phone users about... xD
Reception is based on so many things through, that it's hard to pin point the real problem...
Lythandra said:
Don't forget the Antenna. It sucks also. In my office I get the worst reception out of everyone. Overall I like the N1 alot and plan on getting the N3 when it comes out.
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Well HTCs antenna technology sucks compare to Nokia and other companies. Having a HD2 with horrible antenna issues trying different radios/fimware/updates etc nothing help the poor HD2. the HTC wing way back in 2006 same issues and now the Nexus One has a decent antenna but my Nokia E73 gets solid 3g where my Nexus one fails miserably.
I love the trackball. At least the LED notification part. It's awesome to know if I have a text or a email just by glancing at my phone.
Too bad the Nexus 3 (Nexus 4G also) is going to have no front buttons at all, haptic or trackball.
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Most likely the next Nexus. ICS will most likely get rid of all hardware buttons, like a honeycomb interface.
The texture of the Nexus One is the best. I dropped it plenty of times, forgot the phone in a washing machine once, had to replace the power source for it and didn't get the case to completely close. Yet, I'm still sticking around with it. Hopefully Google will do something right for Nexus 3 and get a similar phone out.
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Most likely the next Nexus. ICS will most likely get rid of all hardware buttons, like a honeycomb interface.
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That's a Nexus S
I have had myN1 since the day it was released but it was replaced under warranty with a refurb a year later. I love the phone and haven't yet found one I would upgrade for but I do have the following issues:
1. The touch on the screen is still erratic making typing much harder than it should. I often have to power the phone off and on again to get it to register properly
2. My pictures, even on the replacement phone, still have a pinkish tinge to them. I am not sure why.
3. The power button is a bit flaky. Mine failed after the warranty had expired (of course) and so it cost me $55 to get it repaired.
I am hoping the N3 will be as good as the N1 but fix all those ills and be faster and more robust.
The amount of unofficial (and official for that matter I guess) support is what has made this phone amazing for 1.5 years for me. The screen sucks outside, and if I change between E and 3G anywhere in town while calling it is an auto dropped call, but there is not another phone that I've seen that's remotely tempted me. It has definitely been sturdy, dropped it so many times and only a slight nick on the top (no case or screen protector). And I still get questions from people when they notice its a N1, always with the follow up that they wish they had one.
I got the N1 when it first came out, rooted and installed CM right away. Been using CM since.
But lately, the phone is starting to show its age. I don't know if it's the phone or CM7 but it's been acting up more and more lately. I'm getting tired of it.
First is the multi-touch or lack thereof. I didn't care when I first got it but now, with more games available on Android, it's becoming a real problem.
Second is the random "crashing" where the screen would go black and the only way to see anything is hitting the menu button or go back and forth. Or just restart the phone to clear the problem. Really? is this windows or something???
Maybe it's CM7 maybe it's my phone but I can't wait to upgrade. Too bad there aren't anything good out there right now.
I really wish the Nokia N9 supports Android.
cdmove said:
Second is the random "crashing" where the screen would go black and the only way to see anything is hitting the menu button or go back and forth. Or just restart the phone to clear the problem. Really? is this windows or something???
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Is this a common problem with the N1? Because I've honestly never encountered this even once with 2 N1s.
I wish a new Nexus would keep the trackball, but they could update it to a virtual trackball like the Desire/Droid Incredible, but add a multicolor ring light around it. I think that would look pretty darn cool.
I'm having trouble sticking to android I love the features,apps etc but I been so paranoid of just buying a new android phone and a better one comes out a month after just sucks. I'm holding my money until I see the Nexus 3
Just got this so only some quick feedback right now -
I received this today after waiting 3-4 weeks for it to arrive from overseas. For $20 I was skeptical BUT after arriving I am actually pretty pleased.
Pros -
It actually works well. Very responsive and no real delay in typing
It looks pretty good and is not that thick.
The material looks reasonably nice and material does not seem inexpensive which was surprising
They sent an additional larger metal stylus with a soft tip. Very nice.
All of the keys seem to work, with the exception of the "windows" key that I never expected to work. I have not tested out the F keys but will in the coming days.
USB plug plugs in nicely and really not that noticeable.
Nice kickstand to hold up tablet at a good angle.
Cons -
Only one real one and that is that there is no top tab to hold the tablet in if turned upside down that way. The tablet can and will slide out. I see this as a problem for many, but not for me as I will simply hold it upright whenever carrying.
I think I might be able to retrofit something to act as a type tab and I will look into that in the coming days.
I plan to do a full review and take additional pictures and video.
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Where did you get this from? Link?
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$19 - great deal especially since it works, looks good, etc.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160612016080&clk_rvr_id=248504385580
I do find it amusing that it has a windows key on it. Would be better still if it was bluetooth so the USB port was freed up
i am using the folio keyboard to make this rely and it is working perfectly still, even on the net. I agree about the port thing and if Acer would ever make a bluetooth keyboard folio like apple and the xoom have it would be great - but not yet.
I am now looking at the adapter to make the micro port a normal usb port or a simple small usb splitter for the normal usb port. either way this is pretty nice to use the keyboard versus the onscreen keyboard.
I will add this - i do not know what the F keys are for on the keypad because again those are normally Windows functions and this is obviously not running on a windows machine.
also the keypad is a little smaller then normal so does take some getting used to , but if you are used to typing on a blackberry or mobile phone this is way way larger so not to hard to get the hang of it
Damn I can't buy it from spain... and they've raised the price to $33
Gonna try in eBay spain.. but I'm afraid it won't be available...
Could you give me any information about the maker? Website... or anything?
Thanks!
From the Ebay listing I posted above - Try emailing them directly about this item
Our customer service email:[email protected]
Leather Case Keyboard For 10.1"Acer Iconia Tab A500
New arrival Synthetic Leather Case Keyboard fit with 10.1"Acer Iconia Tab A500(not design)
1.Kickstand design and High Quality
2.With keyboard by USB connect
3.Left right open type case design
4.Offers all round protection
5.Easily insert and remove
6.With pen loop, water proof keyboard
7.Anti-dust, impact protective and tear resistant
8.Slim and Secure fit, intergrated keyboard and leather case 2 in 1
9.Ultra high quality construction and switching
10.OEM or universal packing
11.Color: Black
Note:Bracuse of Acer Iconia Tab A500 use android ,and the Number lock and screen lock do not with Acer tab A500.But it does not affect the normal use of the keyboard.
Package:
1X Leather Case Keyboard For 10.1"Acer Iconia Tab A500
1 x a gift (A stylus for 10.1"Acer Iconia Tab A500)
i was looking at this case on amazon. price is about the same. but the reviews were... Really bad :/
gh123man said:
i was looking at this case on amazon. price is about the same. but the reviews were... Really bad :/
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I agree - saw the same thing, but took a chance at only $30 and it works really well. I am typing this reply to you on it - no delays, the keyboard works great. Sure some of the windows related buttons don't work but that is fine. It makes typing soooooooooo much easier and it looks pretty nice.
TVDinner said:
I agree - saw the same thing, but took a chance at only $30 and it works really well. I am typing this reply to you on it - no delays, the keyboard works great. Sure some of the windows related buttons don't work but that is fine. It makes typing soooooooooo much easier and it looks pretty nice.
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thanks for letting me know. im seriously thinking about getting it.
Wow, that looks nice. Think I'll order one from Amazon, it's about the same price after shipping ($35).
Thanks for the review.
hi TV, let me know what method you end up on to stop the acer falling out the top. so far used this quite a lot and given its price i still think it is a useful piece of kit. certanly makes my typing a lot quicker.. Now looking at a mouse pad to add to the set up and i will have a perfect little Netbook
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dit; at the moment i ahve a couple of pieces of cardboard stuffed down the abck to keep it a little more secure
How does it slide out of the top if there's a latch which goes over the case??
frankfurtjoe said:
hi TV, let me know what method you end up on to stop the acer falling out the top. so far used this quite a lot and given its price i still think it is a useful piece of kit. certanly makes my typing a lot quicker.. Now looking at a mouse pad to add to the set up and i will have a perfect little Netbook
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dit; at the moment i ahve a couple of pieces of cardboard stuffed down the abck to keep it a little more secure
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Here is what I did - I have a heavy thick oversized rubber band that I put around the case when it is closed. I found a black one that matches the color (almost) of the case material. I put it around and over the top so it wont slide out that way.
I also ALWAYS carry it with the latch side up.
How are you going to add the mouse? Are you going to get a splitter for the USB port?
i see that the band would do the trick quite well, certainly you need to be holding it with the latch shut otherwise - bye bye acer . i think i see this as a reasonable way forward, the keyboard is for me far better than the soft when i can use it, bu ti also want to be able to slip the acer out and carry it when i need., i guess i will add a Skinomi tyoe skin to it for the protection it needs wehn it is running free.
re the mouse, is a bit expnesive but i a still looking at something like this:
http://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/eu/tablettouchpads.com/
and for the USB i though a micro hub similar to this might do the trick.
http://cgi.ebay.de/DICOTA-MICRO-USB...39?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item3f0c0c64a7
frankfurtjoe said:
i see that the band would do the trick quite well, certainly you need to be holding it with the latch shut otherwise - bye bye acer . i think i see this as a reasonable way forward, the keyboard is for me far better than the soft when i can use it, bu ti also want to be able to slip the acer out and carry it when i need., i guess i will add a Skinomi tyoe skin to it for the protection it needs wehn it is running free.
re the mouse, is a bit expnesive but i a still looking at something like this:
http://www.ergonomictouchpad.com/eu/tablettouchpads.com/
and for the USB i though a micro hub similar to this might do the trick.
http://cgi.ebay.de/DICOTA-MICRO-USB...39?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item3f0c0c64a7
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the touch screen mouse is pretty cool, especially how flat and portable it is. I like it but might opt for a standard wireless mouse if I am going to split the one USB port into multiple ones.
I was looking at a splitter like this one - http://www.amazon.com/High-Speed-Flexible-4-Port-Splitter-Cable/dp/B002670LY0 which gives you 4 USB inputs or this one that gives you 2 - http://milo.com/enercell-yc-8868-usb-splitter-cable
Thoughts?
TVDinner said:
the touch screen mouse is pretty cool, especially how flat and portable it is. I like it but might opt for a standard wireless mouse if I am going to split the one USB port into multiple ones.
I was looking at a splitter like this one - http://www.amazon.com/High-Speed-Flexible-4-Port-Splitter-Cable/dp/B002670LY0 which gives you 4 USB inputs or this one that gives you 2 - http://milo.com/enercell-yc-8868-usb-splitter-cable
Thoughts?
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I have a belkin usb hub which looks grt and works flawlessly....
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vari9 said:
I have a belkin usb hub which looks grt and works flawlessly....
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Link please?
I am using a mini 4 port hub (ONN Travel Hub) I got at the local Walmart for around 10 bucks. Mouse and keyboard work fine together
MK
I didn't buy it online.....so can't really provide you a link......go to belkin's site and see the products....there you will find the usb hub...powered as well as non powered( both work).....copy the name and paste on ebay....and search it there....
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I was lucky enough to be able to 'upgrade' my Samsung Galaxy Note to an Xperia Z at no cost (company deal) and after three days of use I am really disappointed - if not frustrated - with the Sony. I was attracted to the combination of screen size and thinness of the design, but usability-wise, this phone is a let down for me. I probably take/make only a handful of calls per day and the phone is used mostly as a work support tool/mini tablet (email, rss feeds, news, server/network status reports from our monitoring tools). Here's my thoughts so far:
1) Performance - great & battery drain/hour seems to be less than the Note for similar tasks.
2) Connector covers - AARGH! - what a pain to have to keep flipping them open for headphones and charging. Fair enough - I see why they exist and if I specifically bought the phone for its water-resistant features then perhaps I'd appreciate them more, but as things stand I'm tempted to rip/cut them off! (but won't)
3) USB connector is on the top left side - that really makes for a badly-positioned, hanging-out lead when the phone's in a car dock or charging on the desk and you want to pick it up for a call. I'm really used to all my previous phones (HTC Touch Pro, HTC Touch Pro II, HTC Desire, Samsung G. Note) having the USB port at the bottom - which has also meant that the same dock could be used for different phones.
4) Phone power button is on the right side, in the middle - totally obscured when in a car dock so here' s the scenario: Phone is in satnav mode (Yay Waze!). Phone rings, call is answered and phone speaker turned on. Call ends, and phone has locked itself, so to get back to satnav, you have to remove the phone from the dock to press the power button - OH for a power/wake up button on the face of the phone! Maybe there's a util for this?
5) The screen is really hard to view outdoors, even in moderate sunlight (Yeah, I have tried with the 'adapt to lighting conditions' feature off). The Note is much better in this respect
6) Sound output is from the bottom, right edge of the phone...so hold the phone in your right hand and you muffle the audio when listening to music or watching a video.
7) Where's my white cotton gloves? This phone looks awful after 5 mins in your hand - marks everywhere on the glossy black finish. Can't wait for my soft protective back/cover to arrive and then only the face of the phone will look like it's been dipped in grease.
8) RSI - holding this phone for any length of time as a tablet (for reading news, emails etc.) makes my hand hurt - it's worse than the (bigger) Note - probably because the Sony is so thin that the pinch/holding grip is different.
SO: 11/10 for looks, but 5/10 for functionality.
I can't complain about the opportunity to have this phone, but I have just ordered a micro SIM adaptor so I can use the Note again as my main phone and the Xperia Z will go to someone else.
Another pointless thread..
This post is not only pointless,but these things are so minor and 90% persional taste.
And while on that subject,wtf is with hating on the damn flaps.Even if the phone was not waterproof,I like my phone smooth,not with 5 holes on each side that make rings on my fingers.I get its annoying to open and close them,but if you are not using headphones 30 times a day...I dont get the issue. Btw if you hate them so much,buy a dock and NFC headphones and you dont ever have to open flaps in your life
useless thread....nothing constructive out of this at all.
2) use docking station and bluetooth headset
4) use a different car dock
7) i don't have oily fingers, so no problem here
Don't think many will feel you're pain here guy.
This would have taken you about 5 min to check out beforehand.
Buying a waterproof phone to bash it's flaps is kind of silly if you ask me.
linker3000 said:
4) Phone power button is on the right side, in the middle - totally obscured when in a car dock so here' s the scenario: Phone is in satnav mode (Yay Waze!). Phone rings, call is answered and phone speaker turned on. Call ends, and phone has locked itself, so to get back to satnav, you have to remove the phone from the dock to press the power button - OH for a power/wake up button on the face of the phone! Maybe there's a util for this?
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Buy a new dock , personally I really like the positioning when handling the phone, I'm glad it is not on top as it would made one handed use not as easy as it is now
linker3000 said:
5) The screen is really hard to view outdoors, even in moderate sunlight (Yeah, I have tried with the 'adapt to lighting conditions' feature off). The Note is much better in this respect
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Strange I really liked the display in the sun, maybe a sharp vs JDI panel?
linker3000 said:
6) Sound output is from the bottom, right edge of the phone...so hold the phone in your right hand and you muffle the audio when listening to music or watching a video.
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This phone has a very special feature, you can rotate the phone , although for some (stupid) reason this doesn't seem to work in portrait
linker3000 said:
8) RSI - holding this phone for any length of time as a tablet (for reading news, emails etc.) makes my hand hurt - it's worse than the (bigger) Note - probably because the Sony is so thin that the pinch/holding grip is different.
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I had this at first, but not any longer, at first I held it like I did with my arc, but this phone requires different handling to be comfortable, depending on my sitting position it rests on my pink an slightly in my palm (the arc was mainly in the palm of my hand). Or it lays flat in my hand.
U should have no problem with power button and screen size if u came from galaxy note as they r similar.
But I am with you with outdoor sunlight
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Want to sell it?? My friend likes mine very much but don't have enough money!
The bad thing about the phone is the poor low light camera quality, think the rest of the phone is amazing..
6. Position is excellent. As the majority of people hold devices right handed, if held in the correct position the hand naturally amplifies the volume.
2. You're going to have to try hard to 'out-stupid' yourself on that one!
AW: A really disappointing phone
stefanve said:
*snip* it rests on my pink an slightly in my palm (the arc was mainly in the palm of my hand). Or it lays flat in my hand.
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Jup.
maka12 said:
*snip* poor low light camera quality
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Hmmm... 9pm the snowy one, 3am the in-car one. Quite dark on both occasions.
Berlin btw in case you wonder
Can't we just open a thread stating stop *****ing and opening pointless threads. Don't like the phone then **** off and get something else!!!!
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I too have come from a Note, and to be quite honest with you, I dont think I'll be going back to Samsung any time soon.
First thing you notice is the build quality. Its 100x times better on the Z and I'm not sure how such a popular manufacture can still get away with shoddy quality.
I think the screen is quite fantastic, I was a fan of AMOLED until I saw this 1080p beauty! Its just amazing. I cannot see any pixels no matter how hard I try! The UI is much better, much more lightweight and responsive.
It's just better than the Note IMO. The only thing letting it down is battery life at the moment.
To OP:
Bro,
If you like the phone, rave about it. If you don't like it, quietly sell it and don't set foot here. You'll be flamed! LOL
I Laughed at this
abd_alazeez2002 said:
U should have no problem with power button and screen size if u came from galaxy note as they r similar.
But I am with you with outdoor sunlight
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Nope - the Note has a hard button below the display - but that particular annoyance has been fixed with an app called Auto Screen On and I can now wake up the display by waving near the proximity sensor.
Thanks to all for the constructive feedback and sorry to all those who think that personal observations on usage patterns and ergonomics are pointless.
MasK said:
To OP:
Bro,
If you like the phone, rave about it. If you don't like it, quietly sell it and don't set foot here. You'll be flamed! LOL
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Nah - that's too easy!
If no-one posted honest, objective feedback how are phone designers and potential users going to know whether there's things that can be done to make the current or next product even better, or whether the phone is the best fit for their particular circumstances.
DeadlyDazza said:
6. Position is excellent. As the majority of people hold devices right handed, if held in the correct position the hand naturally amplifies the volume.
2. You're going to have to try hard to 'out-stupid' yourself on that one!
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Ah- the 'you're holding it wrong' defence!
I understand that a certain brand of ruggedised phone has connector covers with small screws securing them so you can remove them if you want, or if one should be accidentally damaged and need replacing - I am told the screwdriver is supplied in the box too.
khsbenny said:
I too have come from a Note, and to be quite honest with you, I dont think I'll be going back to Samsung any time soon.
First thing you notice is the build quality. Its 100x times better on the Z and I'm not sure how such a popular manufacture can still get away with shoddy quality.
I think the screen is quite fantastic, I was a fan of AMOLED until I saw this 1080p beauty! Its just amazing. I cannot see any pixels no matter how hard I try! The UI is much better, much more lightweight and responsive.
It's just better than the Note IMO. The only thing letting it down is battery life at the moment.
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Have to agree on build quality - it's a very 'smart' smartphone. It's just some of the functional design that doesn't work for me.