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can this be done?
my magician detect the intelli mouse, but can do nothing with it...
cant also use the "stowaway think outside mouse" drivers since they detect only the Stowaway mouse... also couldnt use the IFrog Bluetooth keyboard drivers, even though they support HID detection...
can someone know how to connect between these two?
any news on that... i´m trying to use intellimouse explorer, too... no luck...
someone out there to patch the Thinkoutside drivers ?
I saw somebody saying that the widdcom BT stack supported the mouse...
I dont know if its true, but to find out id have to intstall a new OS (im on 2005) and hack around with BT stacks...
Id rather just hear from somebody running the 2.02/2.06 sin merged rom with the widdcom stack to see if it works. But i guess there isnt anybody with that combination and a BT mouse too.
Magician only...
i ment it to work on the magician.
do you have a magician?
I have a german magician,
neither ms bt mous nor ms bt keyb works!
maybe we should state out that bluetooth firstly only specifies the way how information is being transferred: via radio in a certain frequency - nothing else!
It does NOT determine the way how the transferred information is being interpreted. Lets say when you connect your monitor to the vga connector it is already clear what signals are transferred and how they are read out to compose the picture on the screen.
In other cases (e.g. tracking the mouse movements) we must specify before any exchange of data how is will be interpreted. This is done in so called protocols also known as 'profiles' when you speak of protocols in connection with bluetooth devices.
This means that a bt mouse will be detected (this is standardized) but your device will not know how to interpret the data which is being sent from your mouse unless it supports the matching profile (should be 'HID' - Human Interface Device protocol in this case).
The hardware support of the bt hardware itself plus the additional profiles is called a 'stack'. On Magician you will find the original Microsoft BT stack which lacks of many profiles. It has turned out that other stacks like the one from Toshiba or Widcomm also work (more or less) on Magician. Maybe these ones support your hardware. Let me advise you that there are still many issues with alien stacks so dont install these unless your absolutely sure what youre doing!
Hope that i could make things a little bit clearer for you.
regards,
Quappo
Great!
Could we pin this post within the board so it stays on top or - maybe the better solution - could we publish it in the wiki? I guess that's the best newbie explanation of bluetooth I ever read... 8)
Great post, quapo! 8)
Still no HID driver for PPC
Great Answer!!!! ;-)
OK, i knew all that.
still no answer...:-(
Is anyone cooking a rom for the T-mobile HD2 that uses the Microsoft bluetooth stack instead of widcomm. I am looking to see if Microsoft Voioce Command will work properly with this stack.
yes. it would be nice to use my by keyboard and mouse again. LOL.
Subscribing to this thread, too...
Very Unhappy
I could not wait for the HD2 to be released on Tmobile. I have been with them for almost 9 years. I thought finally I can use their 3G network with the HD2. The last thing I expected was for the basic functions of the phone to not work. The phone does so much and is very advanced yet the basic bluetooth functions have been left out. I have spoken with both Tmobile and higher level support at HTC and honestly neither is going to do anything about the bluetooth support on this phone.
Well, if this is true, then it's becoming more and more clear that this is not something they just forgot to integrate - they omitted it on purpose, like the second camera (the second big fauxpas for a "high end phone"!), in order to have something left they can put into HD3 which makes people buy a new device...
I'm still wondering about the roms though - on PC I used to fight with BT stacks years ago. But it as always possible to install a different one, no matter what BT dongle I was using. Is it definitely impossible to create a rom with another stack? Is the stack somehow hard coded into the hardware?
polera257 said:
Is anyone cooking a rom for the T-mobile HD2 that uses the Microsoft bluetooth stack instead of widcomm. I am looking to see if Microsoft Voioce Command will work properly with this stack.
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Great question...I'm hoping there is an answer.
This would be so great if anyone could make my bt mouse running again on HD2. May be there could be a sourgeforce app or a MS BT stack cracked HD2-Rom.
If I only could use my BT mouse on HD2, may be in 2012 on WM8? Would be so nice for RDP, Virtual Machines, Gaming...
Someone tried on HD2 android with blueinput? Cannot get my BT working Android Running since my new Radio semms not to fit, will test later... I changed the BT working Android to the Phone working Android that is running fine on new Radio...
holylove02 said:
yes. it would be nice to use my by keyboard and mouse again. LOL.
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I was able to get a BT keyboard to work on my HD2 with stock rom. I never tried a mouse.
I had my PS3 keyboard working great on my topaz( same bt as HD2?). I was using an energy rom and I had to install BT_HID.cab file and it paired and worked great is was handy as hell. I could play galaga, Dial the phone from across the room, using ear peice, texting was wonderful,etc. All new roms I try on my hd2 (energy, kumar, mirri, elgoncia) non will allow paring of keypad.
The phone sees the keypad, starts to pair , the phone gives me a number to type in the keypad and the keypad leaves paring mode and an error occurs. I tried the bt_hid.cab file on all roms and still no luck. If I had it workind my HD2 would be perfect for me. I want to know if the bt from my topaz can be put on my HD2? or maybe the bluetooth manager? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and it doesnt seem to difficult because topaz and hd2 have same similar bluetooth stack and software if I am correct. It seems a lot of people would like this fixed or patched. I am going to write down what version of what works on topaz and start there. Please help me OBi Wan HaHA
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I had my PS3 keyboard working great on my topaz( same bt as HD2?). I was using an energy rom and I had to install BT_HID.cab file and it paired and worked great is was handy as hell. I could play galaga, Dial the phone from across the room, using ear peice, texting was wonderful,etc. All new roms I try on my hd2 (energy, kumar, mirri, elgoncia) non will allow paring of keypad.
The phone sees the keypad, starts to pair , the phone gives me a number to type in the keypad and the keypad leaves paring mode and an error occurs. I tried the bt_hid.cab file on all roms and still no luck. If I had it workind my HD2 would be perfect for me. I want to know if the bt from my topaz can be put on my HD2? or maybe the bluetooth manager? Any help would be greatly appreciated, and it doesnt seem to difficult because topaz and hd2 have same similar bluetooth stack and software if I am correct. It seems a lot of people would like this fixed or patched. I am going to write down what version of what works on topaz and start there. Please help me OBi Wan HaHA
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Not sure if this will help you , but other BT keyboards do work on the HD2 so, do not think it is actually an HID driver issue, I use an apple BT keyboard, and a Logitech DiNovo, both work very well ... I had one issue with the keyboard that was very close to what you see with yours, I took the batteries out of the keyboard overnight, it paired the next morning without a problem ....
Might help, might not ....
thanks
Thanks for the input. Tell me why there is a great number of people wanting tekosoft to adapt to broadcomm for Hd2 . Loads of people waiting for someting that worked great on my topaz. I have tried the reset button on the keypad. The phone spits out a 5 digit code and the pairing lights on keypad go out. I have tried lots of options. The bluetooth manager looks very different on hd2 than it does on topaz. Since the hd2 sees the keypad it seems like it might be easy fix since I have both phones to tinker with. What rom are you using?
Has anyone made any progress on this i would love to get this working on my hd2
if it pairs the same as the ps3 controller, this might be a workaround:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689984
Dear all,
Is there anyway to use bluetooth HID keyboard in HD2 android?
I found similar issue mentioned under nexus one thread.
http://i-miss-erin.blogspot.com/2009/09/connect-bluetooth-keyboard-in-android.html
tried it, but it doesn't work.
I also tried some 3rd parties software from market. All doesn't seems to work for me as well.
eg.
bluekeyboard jp
Blueinput demo
but without luck.
I am using freedom i-connex bluetooth keyboard.
Anyone facing the same problem? would be grateful if there are solution to it.
thanks!
I am surprise that no one else is using bluetooth keyboard to connect to HD2 android.
Please guide on how to get it done. Thanks.
Hi there. I did some research and found that Android builds with Cyanogen mod will allow you to use a Bluetooth keyboard.
To test this out, I went ahead and bought three BT keyboards from Fry's Electronics (Microsoft Mobile Bluetooth Keyboard 6000, Logitech diNovo Edge, and Apple Bluetooth Keyboard). I wasn't able to get any of them to successfully pair up and connect with my HD2 (running Android - MDJ Froyo Sense Revolution v.1.5 build). I keep getting a "Disconnected" message when I tried typing. After changing the build to Hyperdroid v.1.7 (which has Cyanogen Mod), I found that everyone of the BT keyboards that I bought worked. Also, Blue Input is better than Blue Keyboard JP for most of the BT keyboards. The input response is very slow/choppy with Blue Keyboard JP.
I haven't tried the other builds with Cyanogen mod yet, but I'm guessing that they support BT keyboards as well.
Hope this helps.
Only Hyperdroid 1.7 works. I've tried other Cyanogenmod_builds
My keyboard Geyes by name, Gey by nature. Advertised as WM6.5 AND Android SPP.. No it bloody well isn't..
Anyway after more hours than I care to mention. Here's my results
- NexusHD2-FRG83D_V1.8_(Froyo 2.2.1) - NO won't pair/work
- Ginger_hd2_v1.2 - Connects and pairs but still can't type a thing. (really like this build too. Big buttons/icons AND FM Radio)
- HD2ONE-0.3.4a OR B - a I can't get it to build on my hd2 B.... Connects/pairs but as above. Including the really like (FM radio, too)
- MDJ_FroYo_Streak_v.0.4_RAM_Edition - Don't remember it pairing, nor connecting and therefore it certainly didn't work... FM on this one, (haven't tried the Dec 16 build)
- Biffmod-hd2-v-1-3-1 - No pair, no connect, no woman no cry.. Cyan 6.0 not 6.1 this one...
No luck with either
bluekeyboard jp (constantly dis/connects)
or
Blueinput demo (same realm of won't pair, so cannot use it)
HyperDroid1.7.......... smaller icons/buttons no FM Radio But yes!! I type in bought quickoffice numbers and letters.. haven't quite worked out Fn keys yet.
It's a yes though....It does work.
The Holy Grail would be to combine builds. FM Radio bigger buttons.. Nope, I don't know how to do that.. Very reluctant to mess anymore. Nearly driven me mental this has... Somehow it would mean extracting the BT files from Hyperdroid1.7 and putting them into one of the others HD2ONE, perhaps?
same problem here, paired/Connected, but i get nothing when i type.
and when i type hciconfig, it shows that HD2 is actually receiving data from my BT keyboard, even blueinput can make a sound when i press keyboard
is there a solution? bcz this is driving me crazy...
Did Hyperdroid work for you? This is straight out of the box, with none of the other 3rd party services.
I haven't tried any of the 3rd party stuff with other builds where the keyboard does connect and pair, but where the keyboard doesn't actually work.
YES, HyperdroidV1.7 DOES work, with no 3rd party software, and this might be the only one I know that works, but still, Fn, Caps and some keys won't work.
I don't like the layout of Hyperdroid, the icons and fonts are too small, and the latest version of psx4Droid won't work in full screen mode, but Nesoid works perfectly well, that's for sure
what I want most is that I can directly use bluez in darkstone's SuperRAM v1.5 to connect to my BTKB, no 3rd party software, but as I say, I get nothing :-(
I figured this might be some kind of bluetooth configuration problem, bcz other android devices like nexus one, EVO, Dell Streak DO work(maybe not perfectly well)
BTW, my BTKB is iPazzPort
I've learned that for Freedom Pro Keyboard, there is an official driver to install before you can use it under android, here is the link:
www.simplemobilereview.com/step-by-step-freedom-pro-keyboard-setup-with-android
I don't know if this works for freedom i-connex BTKB as well, and havn't test it on other BTKB.
I found a solution for blueinput, and get it WORKED under other biluds !!
here is the link:
www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2590
seems that I didn't quite understand how to use this tiny software before...
and again, the keyboard won't respond when I use Nesoid, which works perfectly well in HyperDroid, but u can type text though.
so, if I use bluez utility, the connection seems ok, the problem lies in the selection of the right keyboard, and how to switch to the right keyboard? I tried install other input method like google, but it won't help :-(
Yes, exactly my point. I've seen that Superfast Rom version and tried it. Yes, it's very fact.
I share your issues with the hyperdroid1.7 version. Smaller buttons, no FM and it's just not as slick as some of the others (HD2ONE and the Ginger_hd one.
I did find some BT files in hyperdroid, some .so files and copied them across. That didn't work though, I don't know what I'm doing. I only chose those because they seemed to be BT files.
It might be time to email 'Pongster' the guy who appears to have put Hyperdroid together from other builds. Nobody responded to me in that thread. I'm a bit reluctant to PM though, it seems to be bad form to me. It's just that we're so close. If we could identify which files it is and simply copy them across then we could ? amend any build..
Do you know of any other 3rd party BT programs? Although, to be honest I'm sick of fiddling (not sure it ever ends with this sort of things though).
Bluetooth HID list of builds that work + Dev HID Question
Status on SD builds in which BT works - Hyperdroid 1.7 and all 3 of Shubcrafts builds.
NO OTHERS to DATE (I've tried 13 Cyanogenmod builds)
Issue- Why do some builds work and not others?
Speculation - It must be some .so files, build.prob and or rootsfs
I've tried copying all the BT files I can find from Root/system (in the builds in which it's accessible and I've updated the build.prop Tried to get Ginger_HD, Nexus, HD2ONE, phiremod_SkinnyEvo_Final and Biffmod-hd2-v-1-3-1 to work. No luck.
Why is it that some Cyanogenmod_builds work and other don't (some don't pair, some do pair but you still can't type anything with the connected BT keyboard) at all.
If the files., issue can be identified then couldn't they be put into the (one so far) NAND Cyanogenmod build?
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Status on SD builds in which BT works - Hyperdroid 1.7 and all 3 of Shubcrafts builds.
NO OTHERS to DATE (I've tried 13 Cyanogenmod builds)
Issue- Why do some builds work and not others?
Speculation - It must be some .so files, build.prob and or rootsfs
I've tried copying all the BT files I can find from Root/system (in the builds in which it's accessible and I've updated the build.prop Tried to get Ginger_HD, Nexus, HD2ONE, phiremod_SkinnyEvo_Final and Biffmod-hd2-v-1-3-1 to work. No luck.
Why is it that some Cyanogenmod_builds work and other don't (some don't pair, some do pair but you still can't type anything with the connected BT keyboard) at all.
If the files., issue can be identified then couldn't they be put into the (one so far) NAND Cyanogenmod build?
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I would really also like to get a Bluetooth keyboard to connect to the nand roms.
hey guys,
is there a way to pair a bluetoothkeyboard with the defy? And is there a cable to pair the defy with a tv?
Mfg.Homer
As for the cable to TV, I don't think so.
But wouldn't any Bluetooth keyboard just pair with the Defy, or is that dependent on some profile that is not present on the Defy? I.e. do you own a keyboard and can't make it work, or do you just want to know if it would work?
There is a keyboard from "HAMA" which works...but you need any add-on...
keyboards
Tried a chinese bluetooth kb ... driver didn´t work.
3rd party drivers did somehow, but have been a pain in the ass in daily use.
Hardware keyboard which would be best in thinking of energy doesn´t because of missing USB Host.
Still: Defy ist the best phone I ever had ... but the road is loohooong ...
A quick Google search suggests there are enough keyboards to choose from. Just check if there is an Android driver and you should be fine.
Don't really get why one would want a keyboard though. It kind of undoes the portability and it seems a hassle to use. Don't get me wrong: I loved the keyboard on my old HTC Wizard. But that one was integrated in the phone which might be a better option for you as well!
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A quick Google search suggests there are enough keyboards to choose from. Just check if there is an Android driver and you should be fine.
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- would be so cool if it would be that easy ...
AgentSmith said:
Don't really get why one would want a keyboard though. It kind of undoes the portability and it seems a hassle to use. Don't get me wrong: I loved the keyboard on my old HTC Wizard. But that one was integrated in the phone which might be a better option for you as well!
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- because you need some sort of time machine to get another waterproof mobile with a querty keyboard.
I would have liked a micro one for a adventure trip to proper blog and chat - the phones are nearly usable for that.
It works with Froyo !
Sorry for such a late post. Anyway, I bought this cheap BT keyboard some time ago. Whilst running the stock Eclair ROM, I had to use 3rd party applications to handle it, but never without lots of issues. I had bought it for test purposes, since Android was not listed as a supported platform. But after I flashed Froyo (in my case, the 3.4.3-11 UK ROM), the keyboard just works as it should. After it was paired (the digit sequence specified on the phone - I chose the widely known 0000 - must be entered in the BT keyboard, followed by <Enter>), I just turn the keyboard on (with the Defy's BT radio also turned on, of course) and press any key. The bluetooth link is immediately established, and I'm able enter data to any applications through it.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos
good news
thanks4info.
I will jump on the CM7 train as soon as (a)gps is ok and will try there.
Still hoping to get usb host running, as other projects successfully activated it per software. Will post results after playing around with CM7.
casouzaj said:
Sorry for such a late post. Anyway, I bought this cheap BT keyboard some time ago. Whilst running the stock Eclair ROM, I had to use 3rd party applications to handle it, but never without lots of issues. I had bought it for test purposes, since Android was not listed as a supported platform. But after I flashed Froyo (in my case, the 3.4.3-11 UK ROM), the keyboard just works as it should. After it was paired (the digit sequence specified on the phone - I chose the widely known 0000 - must be entered in the BT keyboard, followed by <Enter>), I just turn the keyboard on (with the Defy's BT radio also turned on, of course) and press any key. The bluetooth link is immediately established, and I'm able enter data to any applications through it.
Just my 2 cents...
Regards,
Carlos
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Ive got the same keyboard but this does nto work at all (CM10 ) it says its conected, but theres no text input, even with thrid party apps.
useless piece of junk.
Any recomendations for something that actualy works??
2Pints said:
Ive got the same keyboard but this does nto work at all (CM10 ) it says its conected, but theres no text input, even with thrid party apps.
useless piece of junk.
Any recomendations for something that actualy works??
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Wow! For a long time, there was no posts at all in this thread. Ok, back to business. You see, I'm running CM10 too. In fact, due to some issues, I'm still on Quarx 11/17 build. Anyway, until I saw your post, my keyboard was forgotten in a drawer. I took it off, turned it on, pressed a key, and, although it was already paired with the phone, an entry in the status bar came up, which, upon being tapped, asked me to either allow or deny the connection. After a couple of times answering 'Yes', the bluetooth icon, in the status bar, turned blue, and, from that point on, all the text I entered was correctly taken by the phone, without any issues. Have you gone through this phase as well?
EDIT: have just flashed Quarx's CM10.1 05/27 build. Couldn't find a way to make my BT keyboard work with it. Haven't tried his CM10 new buiild, but as they seem to share all the radio (BT, Wifi) parts, it is most probable that it won't work there either. I'm already back to his 11/17 build.
there's some keybords that works, but it depends on the ROM too.
I had a chinese one, and it was a lot better to type than the touch keyboard, but, for me it wasn't very useful because I was unable to use some accents, and I usualy type in Portuguese.