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I have been thinking for a while that i want to paint the front plastics from brown to black and was wondering the best way. If anyone has done or knows something about painting pstic with out fingers getting paint when done
ummmm...there was a guy on here that mentioned about polishing the bezel section and such on here because it was dropped. Turned out pretty good in the end, I would contact the OP on that thread about that.
As far as my experience goes, I had an Acura RSX that I painted the plastic headlights (the shiny inside part) black and various colors for other people and they turned out good. The key thing is to remove the old stuff off first before doing so. you are basically then starting with a fresh canvas. wear latex or nitrile gloves as well. use paint cleaner to really get all the oils and stuff off. a LIGHT coat of primer, and then light passes of paint make all the difference in the world.
Or is the rounding material before glass metal? Im starting to feel its metal instead of plastic?
You know what, it is metal, that's right. I remember that guy anodized his bezel.
SoonHD2 said:
Or is the rounding material before glass metal? Im starting to feel its metal instead of plastic?
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Definitely metal. You can feel it especially while charging.
Maybe plastic dip. Google it.
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The Moto X has an interesting glass front. The glass actually covers the entire face and "wraps" around the sides of the phone to the equator of the entire phone. This was commonly referred to as the "zero-gap" or "magic-glass" technology when I was first reading about the phone.
The bezel that we have appears to be painted onto the glass itself. Especially for people like me with the white face, the painted bezel effect really shows off a rather unsightly vertical gap between the painted bezel and the surface of the digitizer, which rests about .5 mm under the glass itself.
I wonder what the glass looks like under the painted bezel. If it was scraped off, do you think it would just be smooth glass enveloping the front of the phone? If so, I wonder why Motorola felt the need to paint the bezel on. That painted bezel looks really cheap to me.
I read rumors that it was wrap around glass but I really don't believe that to be the case - when tapping on it with a metal object, the "wrap around" area sounds distinctly plastic and on the top, you can actually see a distinct area where the plastic is taller than the glass that meets it.
It would be a lot more expensive to create a wrap-around glass piece than it would be to simply do some good plastic forming create tight bezels. I don't think it's glass at all - it's just plastic that's assembled with the glass to some tight tolerances.
Look here:
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/KidY6tB4P22vESDH.huge
Looks/sounds/feels like plastic to me.
binary visions said:
I read rumors that it was wrap around glass but I really don't believe that to be the case - when tapping on it with a metal object, the "wrap around" area sounds distinctly plastic and on the top, you can actually see a distinct area where the plastic is taller than the glass that meets it.
It would be a lot more expensive to create a wrap-around glass piece than it would be to simply do some good plastic forming create tight bezels. I don't think it's glass at all - it's just plastic that's assembled with the glass to some tight tolerances.
Look here:
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/KidY6tB4P22vESDH.huge
Looks/sounds/feels like plastic to me.
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I disagree. While the teardown picture shows what appears to be plastic, there appears to be an additional layer of something covering the outer rim. Check the bottom right (and even bottom left) corner(s) shown in the picture. In the alternative, the "wrapped" portion of the glass simply doesn't go as far as the equator.
I'm virtually certain there is some "wrapping" going on, largely due to the fact that I'm dealing with a white face. I will stake my life on the fact that there is no horizontal meeting between the glass and the bezel (on the flat portion of the face). I can actually see under the painted bezel and see no leading edge of plastic. The glass just goes until I can't see any further. I agree with you that it sounds like plastic when tapped with metal (I just tested it myself), but that can be easily explained by the mere fact that it is painted with some plastic-like substance.
Finally, I think your statement that the bezel is raised only supports the idea that the bezel is painted atop the surface of the glass. If it weren't, you could theoretically have it be level with the glass, though not necessarily. I really wish someone's teardown would show a close picture of the glass.
its not painted glass or wrap around glass. its a plastic bezel. i know becasue i can lift mine up with my fingernail
I have a white front too. At first I was too a bit angry about that shadow where glass touches the plastic/color, but I learned to live with it I don't really think it is just color. Maybe it's some really thin plastic bezel on top of the glass, but certainly not color. Try to look at some crashtests of Moto X. If you look at damaged bezel, you can see it's not just color but something more solid
eyc said:
I agree with you that it sounds like plastic when tapped with metal (I just tested it myself), but that can be easily explained by the mere fact that it is painted with some plastic-like substance.
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No, it wouldn't. Painting a glass surface with plastic doesn't make it resonate like plastic. Especially not at the thin layers we're talking about.
Finally, I think your statement that the bezel is raised only supports the idea that the bezel is painted atop the surface of the glass.
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To raise that tiny little piece of bevel on the top and bottom of the phone, and do all of this wrapping, would be very expensive since it would be pretty sophisticated forming, and from an engineering standpoint, it's a bad idea.
I'd lay money on it being plastic. Easy test, though - go ahead and scrape off your paint and we'll see. I'm not going to do it on mine, though, since it's plastic and will look like hell after that
murso74 said:
its not painted glass or wrap around glass. its a plastic bezel. i know becasue i can lift mine up with my fingernail
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Well, then. I stand corrected. What do you see when you lift it up? Does the glass extend a tad past the plastic bezel? I guess the plastic bezel is just really thin and tapers off into paper-thinness at the very edge where you see the glass.
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Well, then. I stand corrected. What do you see when you lift it up? Does the glass extend a tad past the plastic bezel? I guess the plastic bezel is just really thin and tapers off into paper-thinness at the very edge where you see the glass.
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Honestly I can't really tell... Seems like plastic. I can slip my thumb nail between the side glasss and the plastic bezel, but I don't really want to pull to hard. I've been meaning to call moto about a replacement
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This was one of their marketing things at launch it's zero gap where they "fused" the plastic bezel to the glass for that zero gap feel. The problem is that the bezel doesn't come all the way to the edge of the display so it does create an odd line. This is far more obvious on white than black on black it can only really been seen in direct sunlight.
"Motorola’s unique materials story continues on the front with a fused glass-plastic layer. The front glass and touch panel are fused into the plastic lip which rings the top side of the Moto X. They’re not separate parts, but literally fused together into one. Motorola is very proud of this feature since it results in one unbroken surface instead of the usual pressure-fit plastic ring affair with a raised section or gap."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review
It's plastic. I'm actually quite surprised it's being debated.
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I pulled a broken display off a Motorola Droid Mini XT1030 and also a RAZR M XT907. I was quite impressed with the strength of the adhesive, especially considering it's just a tiny strip about 1-1.25mm wide around the outside edge of the glass. I'm curious, does anyone know what kind of adhesive it is?
What I know is:
- It's not sticky to the touch. It's some kind of cured glue.
- It's rubbery, but firm. Definitely not as soft or stretchy as silicone adhesive.
- Heat makes it a little easier to remove, but not a lot easier.
- It peels off cleanly and leaves no residue.
- It's translucent (cloudy) clear.
- Adheres extremely well to both metal (RAZR M) and plastic (Droid Mini).
Kind of makes me think of a clear version of the urethane adhesive used to attach fixed exterior windows to cars.
I know there are many ways to attach a digitizer like double-sided 3M tape, silicone adhesive, and some people even use Super Glue. I may even settle for adhesive silicone (works better than the 3M tape for me), unless anyone knows exactly what it is Motorola uses.
Once leaks started to surface of the z3 i noticed that the corners were seperate and that the plastic inner frame i hated on previous xperias has been removed, so i assumed these corners were made of plastic replacing that frame, HOWEVER according too sony they are nylon and they are there to protect the phone, so then how did they solve the reception issue? theres no plastic lines anywhere on the phone not on the back not on the side, every non plastic phone has plastic lines for reception, z z1 and z2 had a inner plastic frame,iphone 6s has plastic lines, htc one m8 has plastic lines, but xpria z3 could be made without any plastic for reception how did they do this?
I also figured out why they wen't with that ugly speaker design, which is a step backwards in my opinion, the z2's subtle speaker were in the same location as the z3, but the plastic frame was there to cover it up now that the frame is gone the speaker had to be put right in the glass instead.
Glass isn't going to block radio, and I can't see them bothering making the back metal if it's under glass, what's the point if no one's going to ever feel it? It's probably all plastic back there to let the RF through. And the nylon corners are probably RF-transparent as well.
I'm so glad they got rid of the injection molding around the glass too. It started out nice looking but was the only part of my phone subjected to scuffs, dings and fading. Made the phone a little cheap looking over time. I told myself I wouldn't buy the Z3 if it was built the same way. It was the only thing wrong in an otherwise perfect phone for me.
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I'm so glad they got rid of the injection molding around the glass too. It started out nice looking but was the only part of my phone subjected to scuffs, dings and fading. Made the phone a little cheap looking over time. I told myself I wouldn't buy the Z3 if it was built the same way. It was the only thing wrong in an otherwise perfect phone for me.
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I guess wearing a case would prevent that right?
Also, did you get the white one?
The corners of the phone are now plastics..
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Raspster said:
The corners of the phone are now plastics..
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Which, of course, is a Good Thing.
Not sure the op knows nylon is plastic
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Not sure the op knows nylon is plastic
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Please, the PC term is "polycarbonate"
But yeah the idea was to have a non stiff material that could flex and act as a shock absorber. Glass shattering is what happens when the glass has to flex and absorb the shock because everything else (like metal) is harder.
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Not sure it's pure polycarbonate tbh. To me it felt more like 10-30% gf nylon, just as strong but about 10% of cost.
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I'm thinking in buying a battery cover for mi Moto X Force, and I'm considering the ballistic nylon since i've already used the leather one, and I'm actually using the soft rubber one. So, what are your thoughts about the nylon ones? Thanks.
IMHO, soft touch cover is the best. Nylon looks stylish, but it's too rude and slippery. Fibers so strive to jump out.
i would like to get the soft rubber back because i dont like ballistic anymore. Is it hard to change over?
The wise men say that you should heat the back in order to make the glue of the battery cover more "soft", using a heat gun, or a hair drier. I just used a knife, and started to.peel of from the microphone that's next to the camera.