Ballistic Nylon - Droid Turbo 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm thinking in buying a battery cover for mi Moto X Force, and I'm considering the ballistic nylon since i've already used the leather one, and I'm actually using the soft rubber one. So, what are your thoughts about the nylon ones? Thanks.

IMHO, soft touch cover is the best. Nylon looks stylish, but it's too rude and slippery. Fibers so strive to jump out.

i would like to get the soft rubber back because i dont like ballistic anymore. Is it hard to change over?

The wise men say that you should heat the back in order to make the glue of the battery cover more "soft", using a heat gun, or a hair drier. I just used a knife, and started to.peel of from the microphone that's next to the camera.

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rubberized case...

Whats the difference between the Seidio cases.... and the cheaper multiple colored ebay cases that cost maybe 10$ shipped?
and exactly how rubberized are these?.... same texture as the battery cover?... or is it so grippy that i will have a hard time inserting it in my jeans pocket?
or should i just go for a hard plastic case?... will it be thicker than the rubberized ones?
As Seidio doesn't ship to Switzerland, I bought two of the cheap ones on ebay, and they are OK, fit perfectly, just need to be careful when fixing the upper part around the screen and buttons. The rubberized feel is similar to the battery cover, so probably better and less slippery than the hard plastic, thickness should be similar.

Thin snap-on case?

What is the thinnest snap-on case? I saw a few "hard cover" cases on ebay but I am skeptical if they are junk. I don't wanna spend $30 on a case, but just want something thin that will protect it from scratches and some bumps.
The sticker protectors are ok, but they don't look the best.
I find that the bodyguardz sticker protectors work wornders. Personally I've used it since 2 months after I purchased my fuze and i don't get any scratches at all and they actually get inconspicuous. No one can tell that I have the stickers on it and it feels really good.
I got a great deal on amazon on a clear plastic case, a solid black case and 2 more screen protectors. Came out to around 8 bucks (including shipping). Check out around there and maybe you can find something nice.
got me a pdair aluminium case for the raphael/touch pro, works great!
I'm a truck mechanic, so I can't use anything else!
Regards,
Emile
damn. that aluminum case sounded so cool! Then it turned out to be hinged.
The aluminum case sucks!!! every time you drop the phone it comes flying out of the case. you have to keep bending back the latch for it to stay closed. the screw in clip in the back striped out in a week.
I'm in concrete, so I wouldn't use this if it was FREE!!!

Best Evo Cover

Hey guys I just got the Evo and want to get one of those Skin covers that sticks to the whole phone without having a ton bulk. You guys have any preference on what works well and protects stuff well?
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Sorry but I see tons of posts on this so I am going to look through those, also see lots of posts about the camera lens cracking, is there a back that will protect my camera when I set it down.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-reviews/238720-rearth-usa-silicone-case.html
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-reviews/230975-ringke-case-56k-warning.html
Ringke is a new case... $17 free shipping.
I am currently trying it out.. and I have to say.. it is really great. worth it.
NOT same as the other soft covers that feel like crap and sticky and grab lint from your pockets.
the gray transparent cover does seem a little tight, so go with the other colors.
Seidio Innocase surface. Very little bulk and protects the camera when set down.
Sent from my EVO 3G!
meh, i got a silicone case, a car mount, and a car charger all for less than 16 bucks delivered from amazon.
my case cost somewhere between 1 penny and 3 pennies. it has a good grip to it, protects it from falls, and doesn't add much bulk. i actually like it because it's silicone, rather than plastic, and therefore slippage is minimal. handy if the phone is on a slick surface.
This FTMFW!
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=43786&cat=4947
It doesnt have the rubbery feeling, so it goes in/out of your pocket like if it didnt have a cover.
VTEC4ME said:
This FTMFW!
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=43786&cat=4947
It doesnt have the rubbery feeling, so it goes in/out of your pocket like if it didnt have a cover.
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that looks pretty good.
I highly recommend the Seidio Innocase II. It's rubberize plastic, thick enough to endure those brutal drops but thin and slick enough to slip into your pocket. Seidio also sells a belt clip that goes with its Innocase II. Highly recommend if you're carrying it with you to work.
As for one of those clear covers, I highly recommend Phantomskinz. I did a ton of research before committing myself to phantomskinz and found out that their protective screens are slightly thicker than most of the competition and they provide you with two sheets -just in case you mess up.
If you're interested in utilizing both (Sedio Innocase doesn't come with sheets), then I'd get the innocase and a front screen cover from phantomskinz. You don't want to buy the whole body cover from phantomskinz because the innocase II has pretty low tolerances when you try putting it on and realize that it wont fit.
I just bought the case mate barely there from newegg for $9.99 plus free shipping. It protects the back and sides but not the top or bottom. This case with my screen protector should hopefullly be enough protection for me without adding too much bulk.
http://www.case-mate.com/HTC-EVO-4G-Cases/Case-Mate-HTC-EVO-4G-Barely-There-Cases.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZVXFn58zBY
I just got the Ballistic HD case for my EVO. This is a video I made today.
Jayzion said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZVXFn58zBY
I just got the Ballistic HD case for my EVO. This is a video I made today.
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that is crazy!!! big...
like a tank... ugly in my opinion.
great to have, if you think you are going to be in a rough area.. this is great. but not an every day cover.
I hate to add all that heft to my sexy thin device.
As a compliment to a good case, I ordered Stealthguards for all my phones. Work great and the screen protector is smooth.
Also....they are free. Just pay the $2.?? for s/h. Pretty darn good deal if you ask me. And, I took the cutout for the camera and put it over the lens so it doesn't ever get scratched.
EVO: http://www.stealthguards.com/index.php/popular/htc-evo-4g-full-body-protection.html
I'm a minimalist, so I went with the smallest possible case: Case Mate's Barely There
This is a very high quality case. Truly a skin tight fit. I've dropped the phone a few times and no damage.
Comes with a screen protector I gave to my buddy and he says it's great.
I paid retail (~$25 incl. shipping) but NewEgg has it for $10 shipped: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875998756
Says OOS til Monday.
i used to think the body glove was the best and it was for the hero but for the evo it sucks. broke on me in 3 weeks time. i got fed up and went to my local mall and bought a matte black standard case and it looks and feels great. only $20 too. seems to even keep the dust out more.

Case suggestions

Hi,
I'm looking at various cases for the Nexus 4, and wondering what everyone thinks of them.
I've never used a case for any of my phones before, and I've never really minded the scratches, nor have I gotten any cracked screens despite dropping my phones dozens of times. However, the Nexus 4's glass surfaces have got me thinking perhaps it's a good idea to get some protection.
I'm primarily protecting against scratches, and the occasional drop. I'd like the thinnest and most non intrusive case possible, and one with some grip so the phone doesn't fall so easily.
So far, my choices seem to be Nillkin, Rearth, Poetic and Diztronic. I'm leaning more towards hard cases than soft TPU cases due to aesthetics.
Any pros and cons for the above?
Thanks!
This is exactly what we need, there doesn't seem to be much comparision between tpu and hardcases.
How does the S-Line case compare to others say as it's only around £3 which is dirt cheap but is it crap and wouldn't protect my Nexus at all (If it actually arrived that is )
I'm definitely curious to the difference between soft and hard cases. In my experience some hardcases are damaging the phone a little...
DutchDisturbed said:
I'm definitely curious to the difference between soft and hard cases. In my experience some hardcases are damaging the phone a little...
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OK. Let me try since I've tried 9 cases and I'm not 100% happy with any of them. I was spoiled by the Galaxy Nexus Ringke Slim case. Super Slim, all edge protection in a drop and super grippy. Nothing I've tried for the N4 yet has given me the same satisfaction.
These are in the order that I purchased them.
1. S-Line (TPU)
Like: Cheapest of the bunch. The soft rubber gives the most grip of all the cases I have.
Don't Like: IMO it looks ghetto. Poor molding so there are sharp edges everywhere. I guess you could trim this but it already looks like a hack job. The buttons are covered and are difficult to push.
Overall: I tried this for 5 seconds and then tore it off. Garbage.
2. Rearth Ringke Slim (hard case) - MY CURRENT CASE.
Like: Slimmest of all of the case I have. Super tight fit. Looks awesome. Buttons are exposed and are fairly easy to reach. If you want slim, this is a nice case. Judging from the photos I've seen of the Diztronic slim equivalent, it also gives better corner coverage.
Don't Like: Rearth changed the material and design from the Galaxy Nexus which was my favourite case. The material isn't as grippy and offers no protection in a drop to the front/top and front/bottom. The Gnex version was way better as it totally covered the top/bottom front and was super grippy....so I'm super disappointed in the N4 version.
Overall: Even with the negatives I mentioned, I keep coming back to this case for my daily use. It's the best blend of looks, feel (big time) and protection for slim case.
3. Poetic Bumper (Bumper)
Like: Great fit. Looks way better in person compared to photos. Buttons are covered but are very easy to push (this is a big deal for me). Get to see the N4 backing. Good drop protection because all sides are covered. Easy to remove. Of all the cases, this case gives me the most confidence NOT sliding on a slanted surface.
Don't Like: Makes the phone feel wide. There's no backing so it's not as comfortable to hold compared to a case with a backing. This isn't something no one seems to talk about...it just feels odd. Makes one-hand operation tough.
Note: The back of the phone is exposed so you may want to put a rear screen protector or vinyl (i.e. DBrand). I rocked a DBrand vinyl rear cover for a while with this bumper and really liked it. Great way to customize the look of your phone and you're not constantly cleaning the N4's glass back.
UPDATE:. I've realized I don't like bumpers. The feeling of the recessed back kills it for me. This bumper/vinyl combo is excellent for protection, button feedback and looks....but the recessed back is a deal breaker for me. Just a personal preference.
4. Diztronic (TPU)
Like: Feels great in the hand. Solid. Probably my fav in terms of feeling. Great build quality. Confidence in a drop situation. Looks great.
Don't Like: Suffers from the same problem as the Rearth hard case. Material isn't grippy. Feel like it's going to slide off a slanted surface. Buttons are covered and because the rubber is stiff, it's hard to push and there's very little feedback. The lip that surrounds the screen is pretty pronounced... occasionally get's in the way of swiping. Not as bad as the Mercury though.
Overall: Although it has some negatives it the best of the TPUs I've tried.
UPDATE: After reading some other posts on the topic, I used an Exacto blade to put little slits along the edges of the molded buttons and it made a huge difference in button feedback. I really like the case now. This is my "rough activity" case.
5. Official Nexus 4 bumper (Biggest mistake purchase)
Like: Looks cool. Best button feedback (feels like the original button). Good drop protection as all sides are covered.
Dislike: Widest case on the list. The hard plastic sides make it slippery and uncomfortable. Port/mic holes are smaller than the Poetic. The back plastic edge is dimpled which a) is uncomfortable and b) makes it slippery on a surface (or more so than the Poetic). The USB port hole is deep so you need a skinny USB cable end. Oh ya, and the price is ridiculous. After shipping and taxes it was $33.
Note: Like the Poetic bumper the back of the phone is exposed so you may want to put a rear screen protector or vinyl (i.e. DBrand)
Overall: This was my biggest waste of money of all the cases. Far to expensive for what you get. Get the poetic.
6. Meifeng Hard Skin Cover Case (Hard case)
Like: Great feeling. It's a hard case but the coating on it makes it feel squishy. Grip feeling is excellent. Button and port openings are excellent...better button openings than the Ringke Slim. Although I've only had this one for 30 minutes it doesn't appear to be a fingerprint magnet like the Ringke is. Wow. I really like this case. Inexpensive too...$7.
Dislike: Like the Ringke Slim the top/bottom front edges are totally exposed so no protection on those edges. Corners are covered but not as much as the Ringke Slim.
Overall: Want a slim case that feels good that protects the sides and back, this is the case. I'll post some pics in this thread.
eBay Link
7. Rearth Hybrid
I'm a huge fan of Rearth because of my previous purchases. Unfortunately, the Ringke Hybrid is a big miss.
Likes: Very small lip on the holding on to the LCD screen which makes it easy to do edge to edge swiping. The clear plastic (when not covered in fingerprints) looks cool.
Dislikes:
1) The button feedback is almost non-existent so you can never tell if you've pushed them hard enough. You can mod by cutting the button sides but you should have to if it was designed properly.
2) The clear plastic back, although good in theory, is terrible in practice because it's a fingerprint magnet, dirt/dust/fuzz is impossible to keep out so you see it, and I imagine that the first scratch I get will ruin the look of the case.
3) The small 4 feet that keep the back off a flat surface provide no grip. The phone slides very easily. The feet also feel awkward when handling the phone.
4) On my particular model there was a small molding defect. It wasn't a big deal but not in line with Rearth's high quality products.
Rearth took a chance on a unique design so I applaud them for that. But I would not recommend this case.
http://www.rearthusa.com/google-nexus-4-hybrid-fusion-case
Overall: A lot of people like this case but, next to the S-Line, this is my least favorite. Great in theory...awful in practice.
8. Poetic Palette slim hardcase UPDATED
Like: Excellent feeling coating on the plastic. Even better than the Meifeng. It's also grippy in the hand and on flat surfaces. Not as much as the Meifeng but more then the Rinkge. The bottom and top edges of the case cover more than 50% of the top/bottom edge of the phone giving it more protection on those edges than the Ringke Slim and Meifeng.
Dislike: It doesn't have raised corners like the other two so you get very poor screen-down protection. I would never but my phone screen down with this case. Less corner protection than that Ringke Slim but more than the Meifeng. It has the smallest button openings of all the slim cases. They've put slits on each corner to make it easier to take the case off but that gives it a very lose fit. I'm not going to test it but I'm willing to bet that your phone would pop out of the case if dropped. It's also the widest of the hard cases cases I've reviewed making it less comfortable to hold than the other two,
Overall: If you take your phone out of it's case to clean often, this is your case.
9. Mercury TPU UPDATED
Like: Looks. I have the black one and the sparkle effect is really nice. As long as it's somewhat free of fingerprints, it's pretty grippy too. Great protection as the rubber is soft and covers all front edges of the screen.
Dislikes: The button cutouts are the smallest of all the cases making it uncomfortable to push a button. The cutouts for the mics/speakers are a little off. That doesn't cause a function issue but looks ghetto. It's a fingerprint magnet. The overall fit isn't that good so when you grab it from the sides you can see that the case deform slightly. The mold lines bad and noticeable to the touch. Although I don't have a scale, I feels like the heaviest of the bunch. Also the raised front edge the surrounds the screen is big making the screen look recessed and makes it tough to touch the edge of the screen.
Overall: Not recommended. If you want TPU spend the extra few bucks on the Diztronic and you'll be way happier. This is a "you get what you pay" for case.
So my personal ranking choices are:
Slim hardcase: Rearth Slim because of the feeling (almost like there's no case), superior slimness, great button cutouts, full exposed ports, and looks. Meifeng is the runner up because of the cost, great feeling due to grippy coating and big button cutouts.
TPU: Diztronic TPU because of protection, button feedback (after slits made), feel in the hand and looks. Don't bother with anything else.
Bumper: No brainer. Poetic for the button feedback, surface grip due to rubber edges and protection.
goister said:
Hi,
I'm primarily protecting against scratches, and the occasional drop. I'd like the thinnest and most non intrusive case possible, and one with some grip so the phone doesn't fall so easily.
So far, my choices seem to be Nillkin, Rearth, Poetic and Diztronic. I'm leaning more towards hard cases than soft TPU cases due to aesthetics.
Any pros and cons for the above?
Thanks!
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I think you are going to have a hard time satisfying all your conditions. The hard cases I have seen do not provide the best protection due to the stiffness of the material. More shock is going to be transmitted to the device and less absorbed by the case. Also many of the hard cases I have seen leave a portion of the bezel open where a drop could damage it. The tpu cases are thicker but that thickness provides protection. The elastic nature of polyurethane provides some shock protection. Also the tpu is much better than the older silicone cases as far as friction being removed from a pocket (also not as bad a lint magnet). It all comes down to how much risk your phone is exposed to and how much you are willing to compromise your desires. Me, I feel this phone is relatively fragile and I err on the side of protection. If you are only concerned about scratches just get a screen and back protector.
AdamUpNorth said:
<snip>3. Poetic Bumper (Bumper) - MY CURRENT CASE.
Like: Great fit. Looks way better in person compared to photos. Buttons are covered but are very easy to push (this is a big deal for me). Get to see the N4 backing. Good drop protection because all sides are covered. Easy to remove. Of all the cases, this case gives me the most confidence NOT sliding on a slanted surface.
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Glad I went with the poetic bumper case.I just couldnt get down with spending so much for the official google one. It Should be delivered today. Now if I only I had my nexus 4 already lol:silly:
i have a Rearth Ringke Slim (hard case) and i like very much
I just ordered one from diztronic. Pretty simple basic TPU.
Stanerefor said:
I just ordered one from diztronic. Pretty simple basic TPU.
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Let us know what you think of it and whether it would survive a drop from say chest height.
On a different note, what do people think of this case, it seems like a hard case with a leather cover over the screen which double up as a stand for the screen. Thinking this would be very useful for watching or reading a pdf off the screen.
What kind of case are you guys thinking, im torn between diztronic, a bumber and the above case.
mufc09 said:
Let us know what you think of it and whether it would survive a drop from say chest height.
On a different note, what do people think of this case, it seems like a hard case with a leather cover over the screen which double up as a stand for the screen. Thinking this would be very useful for watching or reading a pdf off the screen.
What kind of case are you guys thinking, im torn between diztronic, a bumber and the above case.
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Although I wouldn't test it, I would say the Diztronic TPU would save the phone in a chest height drop.
The cover case you linked to looks good. For me it's a no go because I look at my phone too many times a day so the cover would drive me nuts.
As promised in post 4, here are some pics of the Meifeng Hard Skin case. Love the feeling of this thing. See my 2 cents in post #4.
AdamUpNorth said:
As promised in post 4, here are some pics of the Meifeng Hard Skin case. Love the feeling of this thing. See my 2 cents in post #4.
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Hey is that a glass screen protector you have on? Seems thick, just want to confirm. If so which one? TY
Crisisx1 said:
Hey is that a glass screen protector you have on? Seems thick, just want to confirm. If so which one? TY
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No, it's the Rearth Ultimate Clear Plus (link)
The original one without the proximity sensor cut out...although I've never had a problem with that.
It is a little thick but the way the light is catching it makes it look much thicker than it is.
AdamUpNorth said:
No, it's the Rearth Ultimate Clear Plus (link)
The original one without the proximity sensor cut out...although I've never had a problem with that.
It is a little thick but the way the light is catching it makes it look much thicker than it is.
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Oh gotcha... this is what I just bought: http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/google/nexus-4/google-nexus-4-screen-protector-steinheil-dual.html
Hopefully its as good.
AdamUpNorth said:
Although I wouldn't test it, I would say the Diztronic TPU would save the phone in a chest height drop.
The cover case you linked to looks good. For me it's a no go because I look at my phone too many times a day so the cover would drive me nuts.
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I did this a couple of days ago with my Diz TPU. I was pulling the phone out of my shirt pocket and it slipped out of my hand and landed on the concrete sidewalk face down. As i was going to pick it up I was expecting the worst but when I turned it over not a scratch. The case has a few scuff marks though, I can live with it.
joe rz said:
I did this a couple of days ago with my Diz TPU. I was pulling the phone out of my shirt pocket and it slipped out of my hand and landed on the concrete sidewalk face down. As i was going to pick it up I was expecting the worst but when I turned it over not a scratch. The case has a few scuff marks though, I can live with it.
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Good stuff!!
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What about a bumper + a best screens ever screen protector ?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Here is the case I bought...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AH86WMU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
Anyone who has bought this, feedback is appreciated
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UPDATED 2013-02-05 7pm EST
1. S-Line (TPU)
Like: Cheapest of the bunch. The soft rubber gives the most grip of all the cases I have.
Don't Like: IMO it looks ghetto. Poor molding so there are sharp edges everywhere. I guess you could trim this but it already looks like a hack job. The buttons are covered and are difficult to push. Tried this for 5 seconds and then tore it off.
3. Poetic Bumper (Bumper) - MY CURRENT CASE.
Like: Great fit. Looks way better in person compared to photos. Buttons are covered but are very easy to push (this is a big deal for me). Get to see the N4 backing. Good drop protection because all sides are covered. Easy to remove. Of all the cases, this case gives me the most confidence NOT sliding on a slanted surface.
Don't Like: Makes the phone feel wide. There's no backing so it's not as comfortable to hold compared to a case with a backing. This isn't something no one seems to talk about...it just feels odd. Makes one-hand operation tough.
Note: The back of the phone is exposed so you may want to put a rear screen protector or vinyl (i.e. DBrand). I have a screen protector (which is really slippery when finger grease is on it so I've ordered the carbon fiber vinyl back from DBrand..it's in the mail).
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I have the poetic bumper and the TPU S-Line Case and agree with this review. I'm currently using the poetic bumper for the exact same reasons mentioned above. I think I'm going to order the Diztronic Matte Back Black TPU Case since it seems to offer more protection. Has anyone ever purchased accessories from HandHeldItems.com (really inexpensive but not sure if thats good or bad)? I purchased a couple of cases (hard case and soft gel case) and a few screen protectors from them and will see how they are when I receive them.
These are the two cases I ordered:
Black Rubberized Hard Case
Slim Fit Flexible Jelly Rubber Case
AW: Case suggestions
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You could be the first

how did sony handle reception now that ths plastic frame is gone?

Once leaks started to surface of the z3 i noticed that the corners were seperate and that the plastic inner frame i hated on previous xperias has been removed, so i assumed these corners were made of plastic replacing that frame, HOWEVER according too sony they are nylon and they are there to protect the phone, so then how did they solve the reception issue? theres no plastic lines anywhere on the phone not on the back not on the side, every non plastic phone has plastic lines for reception, z z1 and z2 had a inner plastic frame,iphone 6s has plastic lines, htc one m8 has plastic lines, but xpria z3 could be made without any plastic for reception how did they do this?
I also figured out why they wen't with that ugly speaker design, which is a step backwards in my opinion, the z2's subtle speaker were in the same location as the z3, but the plastic frame was there to cover it up now that the frame is gone the speaker had to be put right in the glass instead.
Glass isn't going to block radio, and I can't see them bothering making the back metal if it's under glass, what's the point if no one's going to ever feel it? It's probably all plastic back there to let the RF through. And the nylon corners are probably RF-transparent as well.
I'm so glad they got rid of the injection molding around the glass too. It started out nice looking but was the only part of my phone subjected to scuffs, dings and fading. Made the phone a little cheap looking over time. I told myself I wouldn't buy the Z3 if it was built the same way. It was the only thing wrong in an otherwise perfect phone for me.
chetly968 said:
I'm so glad they got rid of the injection molding around the glass too. It started out nice looking but was the only part of my phone subjected to scuffs, dings and fading. Made the phone a little cheap looking over time. I told myself I wouldn't buy the Z3 if it was built the same way. It was the only thing wrong in an otherwise perfect phone for me.
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I guess wearing a case would prevent that right?
Also, did you get the white one?
The corners of the phone are now plastics..
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Raspster said:
The corners of the phone are now plastics..
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Which, of course, is a Good Thing.
Not sure the op knows nylon is plastic
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corallus said:
Not sure the op knows nylon is plastic
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Please, the PC term is "polycarbonate"
But yeah the idea was to have a non stiff material that could flex and act as a shock absorber. Glass shattering is what happens when the glass has to flex and absorb the shock because everything else (like metal) is harder.
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Not sure it's pure polycarbonate tbh. To me it felt more like 10-30% gf nylon, just as strong but about 10% of cost.
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