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Hey guys. I read on a couple of blog sites that the HTC Desire 2.1 Sense ROM has been leaked and it's currently being ported onto the Nexus One.
Is there any chance we can use this ROM to fill in the gaps for our 2.1 ROM, or maybe even just port this ROM directly onto our CDMA Hero's?
Here's one of the articles: http://phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/blog/htc-s-sense-ui-ported-over-to-nexus-one.aspx
This does mean there is an HTC 2.6.29 kernel. It's an HTC kernel, but not a Hero-specific kernel. This might make porting the kernel easier.... who knows.
HeroMeng said:
This does mean there is an HTC 2.6.29 kernel. It's an HTC kernel, but not a Hero-specific kernel. This might make porting the kernel easier.... who knows.
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Could it help in getting camera to work on 2.0+ custom ROMs, even if it's for another phone?
Yes, it could. This means there's a 2.6.29 kernel for HTC Sense phones. We need to put in the device drivers (i.e. microphone, camera, speakers, trackball) and see if it works. If not restore a Nandroid and try again. Any devs correct me if I'm wrong?
oh wow it says the new flash is in it too...could that be ported to?
ko0pa11 said:
oh wow it says the new flash is in it too...could that be ported to?
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I think that's a matter of an APK. It might have some dependencies that are in the .29 kernel, not sure.
Sorry I haven't searched yet, but could someone find me a link to a ROM from it? I'll try my hand porting some stuff.
yeh i can do some porting too we can make it a group project. but i really dont think it is possible. if anything perhaps we can take some stuff from the rom and port it to the 2.1 rom flipz has out and maybe get camera and stuff working.
I should've mentioned that's what I would've done.
I can't find the leaked rom after much googling. Might be on the Nexus One forum... brb.
Is this it?
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I'm really interested in the keyboard apk (HTC_IME). As soon as I get my hands on it I can strip out sense checks and the connection to HTC custom settings database to enable language settings.
I've done this with the old HTC_IME:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?p=5475283
but many (including myself) want a hires version
Download it from here: http://www.romraid.com/paul/nexusone...ire-signed.zip
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Is this it?
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That's the HTC_IME that fits the hi-res Nexus screen.
I think MaDaCo got it from a inside source. The watermarking has been removed but he isn't convinced it is clean and ready for open distribution yet. (Doesn't want anyone to lose there job if its not clean)
He has promised that once it is clean and ready he will for sure post it for everyone to have.
thank you for the info^^^
i guess we wait it out..
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I think MaDaCo got it from a inside source. The watermarking has been removed but he isn't convinced it is clean and ready for open distribution yet. (Doesn't want anyone to lose there job if its not clean)
He has promised that once it is clean and ready he will for sure post it for everyone to have.
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post it as in, it works for our hero's?
maybe this will give people a chance to figure out a way to OC??? just a thought i hope so!!! i been waiting since 2.0 was announced to get it for sense! im so excited!
Android dev Modaco has gotten his hands on a watermarked copy of the HTC Desire ROM. He has successfully ported the too big ROM (too big for the N1 by 200 MB) into his Nexus phone. This could possibly be what all you Sense UI fans have been waiting for, though you shouldn’t be too excited just yet. Modaco has stated he doesn’t plan to release this ROM until he receives an unwatermarked version of it.
Hit the jump to see the details about Modacos ROM.
- If you rebuild the boot image replacing the kernel it runs. I’m running my own custom kernel with himem and bits.
- The system.img doesn’t fit on the N1 (!), it’s nearly 200MB. I booted by moving some stuff off the system partition.
- The trackball works.
- The 4 bottom keys work.
- The proximity sensor works.
- The LED works.
- The light sensor works.
- The compass and G sensor work.
- The camera works fine and is great with face recognition and touch focus.
- The FM radio loads, but makes no sound / finds no stations it seems. Maybe we need Desire radio ROM?
- The build I have is watermarked – i’ve removed the obvious visual watermarks but no, you can’t have this release – when I get a watermark free drop, yes!
- Flash 10.1 is included and works well.
- It’s FAST!
- WiFi works
- Bluetooth works
- 800×480 video recording, camera maxes out at 3MP (fixed in later builds)
More to follow!
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amot said:
Android dev Modaco has gotten his hands on a watermarked copy of the HTC Desire ROM. He has successfully ported the too big ROM (too big for the N1 by 200 MB) into his Nexus phone. This could possibly be what all you Sense UI fans have been waiting for, though you shouldn’t be too excited just yet. Modaco has stated he doesn’t plan to release this ROM until he receives an unwatermarked version of it.
Hit the jump to see the details about Modacos ROM.
- If you rebuild the boot image replacing the kernel it runs. I’m running my own custom kernel with himem and bits.
- The system.img doesn’t fit on the N1 (!), it’s nearly 200MB. I booted by moving some stuff off the system partition.
- The trackball works.
- The 4 bottom keys work.
- The proximity sensor works.
- The LED works.
- The light sensor works.
- The compass and G sensor work.
- The camera works fine and is great with face recognition and touch focus.
- The FM radio loads, but makes no sound / finds no stations it seems. Maybe we need Desire radio ROM?
- The build I have is watermarked – i’ve removed the obvious visual watermarks but no, you can’t have this release – when I get a watermark free drop, yes!
- Flash 10.1 is included and works well.
- It’s FAST!
- WiFi works
- Bluetooth works
- 800×480 video recording, camera maxes out at 3MP (fixed in later builds)
More to follow!
[via Modaco]
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this sounds exciting
nerdgasm
Oooo and I was starting to think I made a bad choice by getting the Hero seeing as how htc is coming out with all these new phones, looks like things are just getting started with all the goodness to come in the near future.
p.s.-i love this forum and all the smart people who know what the hell theyre doing
As posted on asia cnet.com web site.
The i9000 will eventually at some stage get Android 2.2 Froyo.
Read here for details.
yay that will make things even better
I don't mind waiting. 2.1 is still pretty cool, and I rather seem them test Froyo properly rather than rush out an update.
re's another outside source posting details. This time it's from GSMArena.
Read it here.
it woudl be awesome with froyo on it
according to SamsungFirmwares on Twitter:
SamsungFirmwares said:
So Samsung is testing 2.2 (No info about phones) And updates for 2.1 in more countries soon.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bmtqrpTBrY
If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
Actually he didn't say that. This interview was answered with the usual catalogue of noncommittal standard responses. He only said they are working on it.
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If I understand this Manager right Samsung has already working phones with 2.2 and they will launch it soon after the phone will launch.
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at that event in UAE Samsung have stated that the Galaxy S will have the update in around two months
As Eldar Murtazin state,
It was in March that I shared my impressions of Galaxy S, those who do not remember, can read it here.
Quite frequently I am asked to tell about this device in detail, more over some say that there are some so-called reviews in the Internet. To my mind the problem is that for the time being there is no official software for the device. There will be a couple of different versions before it is officially released as well as the default set of programs can be changed. Those prototypes that people have today do not have final design, they are different from commercial devices (there is no curve in the lower body part in the final samples).
In Russia as in the majority of states it will be released in mid-July. Some countries will see the device one month earlier. But the update to Android 2.2 for this phone will be available only in mid-Summer. So is there a point in writing about it if something may change radically? I suggest that there are no problems in the device as such and it is possible to write about it. You can get general impression even today. In this dilemma I ask for your advice, what should I do best? It will be logical to add a part about the camera and description of some applications to the first article and call it the preliminary review. Should such material be published and announced on the main page – remains a question for me as well. Give your advice and recommendations, your opinion is important as always.
As a small bonus I want to mention that Galaxy S is important for the Android market in another way. It is known that most people consider Marketplace to be the only place where you can get applications and assume that Google will protect its right for it at all costs. In other words it will not tolerate other similar applications by other companies. It suddenly appears that Samsung can install such applications; particularly the device has Samsung application and book stores. What is more amazing is that while discussing this issue one of company’s top manager said that on the device you can use any search from any company. Google does not insist on the use of its search by default. The fact that everyone uses it today does not mean that there are any restrictions by Google. This remarkable discovery makes Android not only very open system but the system whose main advantage is the possibility to use any solutions available. This is namely what Samsung is doing. In this aspect both companies are following an understandable path, by not restricting users in choice of services. Admit that you did not know that Google is so flexible about Android? Or the reason is in antitrust legislation? I do not know but the fact remains, Google does not impose any one-sided terms on the hardware manufacturers.
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This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
MacaronyMax said:
This would be amazing on 2.2 as its faster than an n1 on 2.1 so when this gets 2.2 it will be the fastest android phon !
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Totally agree, games from GAmeloft like (Sandstorm) is so freaken smooth like constant 60fps
The OS seems very snappy already and 2.2 is just gonna blow my mind away when its ready for our S!!!
as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
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as froyo is just officially released today as open source samsung could and would not try to port it until now ... so depending how smooth the transition goes samsung might actually get it done in 2 or 3 month
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lol nice to see you here v1rtu4l. samsung will probably take their sweet time to get this update out, you and i both know how they work.. hopefully well be able to add Froyo to the Galaxy S ourselves as it was rooted today.
Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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Am tempted to pick up this phone for the screen and AV format support. Watching videos should be great, if i can go by my experience with HD2 running Coreplayer. And no conversion required.
Also have a N1 running Froyo. Question is, once you root and update the i9000 to Froyo, what happens to its divx/mkv support? Do you lose it? Can its AV player be extracted as a .apk file and reinstalled? If so, can the same app be installed on the N1?
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interesting point, is the codec support built into touchwiz or a feature on the media player?.... one of my big reasons for buying this phone is root and the codec support....
"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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"No specific date as yet" is what kills it. Is it in a month or 2, or in the end of December ? I doubt its hard for Samsung to update to 2.2, although, it does take forever for HTC to port
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at least you hear HTC and Moto talk about it....I havent heard much from Samsung lately....
I'm eagerly awaiting some guru Rom maker to deliver Froyo to the GS. The first one to do so will definitely be getting a donation from me.
The phone is rooted... how far are we to get froyo on this.. ...
Waiting from samsung is a pain.
Hi I was planning on going back to epic, love the screen and hardware! but so far with the recent froyo builds I'm trying to figure out what I can expect to be fixed when the official froyo is released. I see reports of a perfect working GPS but what about the glitch with the time w/o a signal, is the airplane mode toggle trick still needed? any other fixes? Thanks for any help!
We wont know until the official Froyo is released. If you want someone to make an educated guess for you, why not just do it yourself. Go into any of the Froyo rom threads and read about what has been upgraded or fixed, and you can probably reasonably expect that the official rom will also have those upgrades and fixes.
Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=882946
There is currently work being done by jt, birdman, and the other skew of developers trying to develop a working AOSP version of 2.2/2.3. The biggest struggle that they have encountered was the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) binaries. Samsung produced some bogus complex proprietary binaries with no properly working source code. Because this phone is CDMA and not GSM, we can't simply use galaxy s files.
Anyways, the point is that there is work being done to bring it to our phone. They have a working AOSP 2.1 that is currently in alpha stage. Jt basically built his own RIL for this phone to get it working.
If this RIL works, we may end up with 2.3 sooner than later.
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Let me start by saying I'm fairly new to Android, and that this probably should go in a general Android forum, but since I'm a Fascinate user, this seems appropriate to me. I've searched, but haven't found a real explanation, and I'm not one to take things as fact without a reasonable explanation.
So it seems like everyone is waiting for an official 2.2 release for the Fascinate, flashing 2.1 ROMs but not capable of upgrading to 2.2+; but I'm wondering why we can't just compile our own OS for our phones? Android is a Linux-like OS, and I know Linux users would never stay on an old version if a newer (better?) version was available. I'm talking down-and-dirty tweak-every-option-by-hand Slackware here. Is the source available for download? If so, why can't we do something with it? Is something in the phone completely locked and unhackable? Is it the fear of having a $500 paperweight? Is it difficult to regain Verizon network connectivity?
Again, forgive the noob question, and thanks in advance for any help you can give me!
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You obviously have not searched hard enough, as this has been discussed in many places. I would suggest you start by searching this forum (edit: or seeing the links and posts above).
I will say, however, that recent achievements by (edit: the developers mentioned above) have made your suggestion quite possible. If you want to get a taste of what is to come, see the aosp alpha sticky located in the development section. The rom still has bugs, but it is a giant step forward for the Fascinate.
Sent from my Galaxy-S Fascinate
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792986
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883004
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^^^^^
10char
I must add/point out that the work these guys are doing could easily pave the way for Cyanogenmod- and other well-featured roms to be compiled/ported and used on Fascinate as well.
I've read the above links, but they didn't really quite answer my question. I guess I'm wondering why a Linux-based OS isn't acting/being treated like a Linux-based OS.
Let's say I go out and buy a new computer today. I want to put Linux on it. I get the machine home, download my distro of choice and make an install cd. As I'm installing, I configure the installation either for my specific hardware or I can use a generic profile if my hardware isn't listed.
Now say a new version of the Linux kernel comes out. I can upgrade without having to wait for a version for my hardware. Or if I install MyDistro v1 when I get my machine, and MyDistro v2 comes out the next day, I don't have to wait for someone to develop a version to work with my hardware.
So my question is more of a why can't we upgrade our distro like other Linux variants? Is it because there's no generic replacement for the Samsung RIL? If I were to download the source and do a generic build, or even a specific one, I wouldn't be able to install it because...?
Sorry to be a pain, but I genuinely have no clue. Again, thank you for the insight!
2.2 will boot on the I500 just nothing works. If you would like to help http://opensource.samsung.com/
The source code can be found there. Please feel free to help the development along.
I suggest you read through the reply's to your question and pay special note to those bringing up the RIL as that seems to be the biggest hurdle right now.
I think maybe the answer you are looking for is that it is possible to do it, it's just extremely difficult because Samsung's open source is very shoddy and isn't based on AOS, which is what is used for most other phones.
Since the developers don't have a build that works, they have to work from the ground up with AOS and get every last feature on the fascinate working without using Samsung's code (TouchWiz, widgets, etc).
The links they gave you explain most of it but you have to sift through the posts. There is a dev named jt (amongst others) who is working on a ROM that is upgradable based on AOSP and it looks very promising.
edit: It's also worth noting that when I say "not based on AOS" I mean that it is proprietary software used by Samsung-only phones and is not coded by Google. It still, of course, is based on Android OS. It would be akin to a ROM coded by Samsung for their phones rather than generic ROMs that could be downloaded by other phones.
Perfect, thanks!
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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For clarification.... so I can wrap my brain around this. Is this situation kinda like having bought a new computer that's running an os, but has no installed device drivers and nowhere to download them from, so they have to be written by hand?
Edit: that last post came thru while I was writing this one, I think it basically answers my question...
So what the devs on here are trying to do is develop a "generic" profile that can work on our phone (as well as others?), creating a solid base to allow users to upgrade and change at-will without having to wait for official releases?
See, that's the part I'm having a hard time with. No generic profile built into the OS to use in the absence of a hardware specific one?
LoverBoyV said:
Try thinking of it as buying an Ubuntu laptop from dell. Sure its " Ubuntu" but not stock. It so full of bloat and badly written drivers that aren't supplied openly for the user that it would be hell trying get the latest version of ubuntu to run on it.
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On a sidenote, I bought a Dell netbook witih Ubuntu. Didn't waste time with Ubuntu, but I chose it because I didn't want MS to get money from a license fee. Installed Mac OS X on it the day it arrived
Ya know, I tried to do the same thing with my inspiron 1525 notebook, with snow leopard 10.6.3 since I have a spare hard drive. Spent a whole day with numerous guides, trying this n that. Got it to actually boot to the desktop once, bit as I was putting the drivers in, it went into KP and from that point on, I could never even reinstall back to the desktop again.
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source: (Twitter, About 12pm 1/2/2011 from Samsungtweets via Cotweet - http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/samsung-usa )
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
EDIT: gave more specific time and source of tweets. Post is meant to be objective, without definition of ASAP for this context.
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soba49 said:
Well, Samsung is giving us a simple/reliable update to Froyo with unique functionality, as soon as possible.
Source (Twitter, 6 hours ago):
Samsungtweets We are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S Galaxy S owners as soon as possible.
Samsungtweets We want Galaxy S owners to have simple/reliable upgrade. We r running tests due to complexity/unique functionality
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I'm not sure if this is meant to be funny or not haha. Are those recent tweets?
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They seem to post the same things over and over, of course this is also because people constantly ask when is froyo coming, and every time they say there is no definite date. It is coming soon that that is all they will say; yelling, moaning and crying isn't gonna make it come any sooner, just sit back and it will eventually come.
Well this is it guys. Prof that Honeycomb doesn`t have hardware requirements.
Does not need a dual procesor to run. In fact Spacemoose1 made something for us, to bad it didn`t finish, but he promise to come back with something new and good.
source: http://www.bestandroidappssite.info/honeycomb-hardware-requirements-false
We just need that brilliants developers from here to heading attention to this and let Gingerbread for the unroot people.
Thanks for support.
Dude where have you been all this time? but thanks for reminding us anyways, just so you know honeycomb for gsm tab is already in the works by spacemoose1 and a cdma version is also under alpha testing, anyone correct me if im wrong... so we all just sit and wait for it to be properly released peace bro
overcome KRATOS
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Dude where have you been all this time? but thanks for reminding us anyways, just so you know honeycomb for gsm tab is already in the works by spacemoose1 and a cdma version is also under alpha testing, anyone correct me if im wrong... so we all just sit and wait for it to be properly released peace bro
overcome KRATOS
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Wait has spacemoose gone back to doing HC for the tab? Last time I heard he abandoned the project. Or is there something I'm missing?
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Wait has spacemoose gone back to doing HC for the tab? Last time I heard he abandoned the project. Or is there something I'm missing?
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He said about a month ago that he is working for porting or makeing working Honeycomb 3.2 for GTab`s, becouse has less to work do to suporting 7" screens that 3.2 brings. But i didn`t hear nothing then and i`m not shure if he abandon the project or is involve in others to and doesn`t have time.
I thank him even if he abandon the project becouse he was the only one that has macking working and i`ve tested on my Tab.
Pray to do another port of 3.2
Use the search function before you post.
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Well this is it guys. Prof that Honeycomb doesn`t have hardware requirements.
Does not need a dual procesor to run. In fact Spacemoose1 made something for us, to bad it didn`t finish, but he promise to come back with something new and good.
source: http://www.bestandroidappssite.info/honeycomb-hardware-requirements-false
We just need that brilliants developers from here to heading attention to this and let Gingerbread for the unroot people.
Thanks for support.
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That way you wont feel stupid after a bunch of people tell you it has already been posted...in January.
last i heard HC was abandoned because of every1 nagging the devs about it. but that was for the cdma version. maybe we'll have better luck with the gsm devs.
Judging by what was said at google IO ice cream sandwich (ics for the puropose of this) is going to replace honeycomb and gingerbread and it wouldn't surprise me if cm8 (or whatever it is) is based on ics which may come to the galaxy tab
NOTE: these are presumptions which may not be correct so don't quote me on this!!
Wow really!? Totally amazing thanks for posting guy!
This is great
I just updated the GT to Gingerbread 2.3.3 and its working much better now
wonder what to expect from the Tab with honeycomb
Raps
Is this even worth doing though, Its not stable?
I would wait for a future more stable version, can anybody else comment?
mmk to clear up a bit of stuff here Spacemose1 is no longer doing HC no 3.0 not even 3.2 no questions asked so dont bother him about it. CDMA version was picked up by spacemoose1's partner in crime Oldmacnut (self proclaimed Very Green Developer) hes doing his best with what hes got. Recently there was alot of whinning and crying about HC so he intended to shut the project down for good
Long story short cooler heads prevail and he decided to pick up on HC again. On 10/1/2011 HC for CDMA only due to lack of a gsm tablet was taken from Alpha to Beta Status offering a "possible 3g fix" maybe more but the zip file is corrupt so a hemidall file's are supposed to drop for us soon.
So, does the honeycomp can run on Samsung Galaxy tab of 7 inches?
Do you know a site where you can download all Honeycomp roms from all the world?
Do you know a guide to upgrade the gingerbread to honeycomp version?
Do you know how to re-enable the light from keys menu (menu, home, back, search)?
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So, does the honeycomp can run on Samsung Galaxy tab of 7 inches?
Do you know a site where you can download all Honeycomp roms from all the world?
Do you know a guide to upgrade the gingerbread to honeycomp version?
Do you know how to re-enable the light from keys menu (menu, home, back, search)?
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yes it runs on galaxy tab 7 but it isnt complete has bugs and still in process of being completed so dont expect anything to fancy just yet
Xda-devlopers under samsung galaxy development
search the forums for install Read everything before posting questions
Not sure what you mean about enableing lights if you havent installed HC how do you know lights dont work?
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So, does the honeycomp can run on Samsung Galaxy tab of 7 inches?
Do you know a site where you can download all Honeycomp roms from all the world?
Do you know a guide to upgrade the gingerbread to honeycomp version?
Do you know how to re-enable the light from keys menu (menu, home, back, search)?
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Try button backlight widget from market.
Sent from my Tab using a pigeon.
ics will most likely replace honeycomb,
but until then
download honeycomb launcher,ripple lock & honeybread theme(if your on boca, cm7 or MIUI) from the market
Unless the the amazing guys in the dev section can do something deemed impossible by the manufacture, without any sort of actual source code, its the closest you'r going to get.
I think the developers love to make it stable and usable.. I really support those guys who is trying to port HC to galaxy tab. I'ma GSM user. Hope someone can make HC for GSM galaxy tab too.
google has said honeycomb was rushed out & will never be open source. With ICS on the horizon it makes no sense to push for honeycomb.
Is there a point of installing HC on our out dated Tabs now???
What is the point of upgrading software when hardware isn't par?
I feel the same about GB as well, I feel like Froyo runs best on the Tab.
But that's just my humble opinion, dont take offense or defensive.