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[Q] quadrant standard slow

My wife's phone runs quadrant standard really slow it takesb like 5 minutes to run with rooted vibrant and lag fix. Plus it's only registering about 750. Please help.

That's normal if you haven't installed a LagFix. Its not a bad thing either, the phone is still plenty fast.

and if you don't want to root and apply the fix, just wait until the froyo update comes out. your numbers then should drastically improve and of course, so should the overall speed.

chronos7 said:
My wife's phone runs quadrant standard really slow it takesb like 5 minutes to run with rooted vibrant and lag fix. Plus it's only registering about 750. Please help.
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If you're still getting that low of a score, clearly something went wrong with the fix. I would use odin and restore a stock image and then start over if it were me.
djgleebs said:
That's normal if you haven't installed a LagFix. Its not a bad thing either, the phone is still plenty fast.
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That's NOT normal... It never took my Vibrant or my wife's 5 minutes to run the Quadrant tests, before or after the fix.

chronos7 said:
My wife's phone runs quadrant standard really slow it takesb like 5 minutes to run with rooted vibrant and lag fix. Plus it's only registering about 750. Please help.
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Which lag fix did you perform cuz the one I performed has my Quadrant scores no lower the 2100? Something went wrong with whatever you did.

Here is what I did with mine and I am now at about 1400 quadrant. I didnt use any lag fix at all. I simply loaded a clean rom copy via oden and then loaded vibrant4. The only change I made was to replace the framework-res.apk file in vibrant4 with the stock one in order to stop the reboots caused by the battery fix.
Thats it been rock solid stable for days now.

DUAL LAG FIX!!! it works!?!

I put on the new Voodoo Lag fix and have had no problems. My phone is as fast its ever been. Because before that I was using ryanzas lagfix on the market and kind of made my phone faster. So I removed ryanzas and put on the voodoo, and found I could still apply ryanzas, so I did and my phone is super fast. At least I feel like its faster. So for the devs I know this isnt a q&a but is this actually working, and can u guys apply this into ur future work?

lilsav55 said:
I put on the new Voodoo Lag fix and have had no problems. My phone is as fast its ever been. Because before that I was using ryanzas lagfix on the market and kind of made my phone faster. So I removed ryanzas and put on the voodoo, and found I could still apply ryanzas, so I did and my phone is super fast. At least I feel like its faster. So for the devs I know this isnt a q&a but is this actually working, and can u guys apply this into ur future work?
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curious what tests have you run to determine it is indeed faster? I need to go back and read through Ryanzas lagfix but from memory I thought it created an EXT partition just as the Voodoo lag fix does.
If this is the case there would be no speed improvement as your system is only using one EXT partition so running the 2nd lagfix does nothing or changes the size of the EXT partition created by Voodoo.

rsfaze said:
curious what tests have you run to determine it is indeed faster? I need to go back and read through Ryanzas lagfix but from memory I thought it created an EXT partition just as the Voodoo lag fix does.
If this is the case there would be no speed improvement as your system is only using one EXT partition so running the 2nd lagfix does nothing or changes the size of the EXT partition created by Voodoo.
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Ok so all I do is try to make my phone faster when I have time. But I partioned my sd on my mytouch with amon ra then I put my sd on ext 4. Than I ran the voodoo lag fix using the the deodex rom. Voodoo lag fix put my quadrant scores at 1700 about which seems realistic. Because with ryanzas I was getting 2400-2500. But I only had 500mb of app space left bcuz of the partition. But after voodoo I have 1.4mb and I ran ryan zas on top of that and I have the same 1.4mb left. I think I can run both because the voodoo lag fix is a system partition and ryanzas is only virtual. At least thats what I think thats why im asking for help. But I run about about 2000 to 2100 on my quandrant scores and my phone has no lag at all.

I say try it if u can because my phone has never been faster. I dont know why it works but I believe it does because I can see and feel a difference in the phone. Everything runs so smooth. Its fantastic!!!!

Why stop there? Install another lagfix and I'm sure your phone will be 3X as fast!!!

grennis said:
Why stop there? Install another lagfix and I'm sure your phone will be 3X as fast!!!
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lmao!
my sides hurt.

grennis said:
Why stop there? Install another lagfix and I'm sure your phone will be 3X as fast!!!
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Haha smart a** I just need someone else to try it it and tell if it works? Or explain to me why it wouldnt or doesnt?

lilsav55 said:
Haha smart a** I just need someone else to try it it and tell if it works? Or explain to me why it wouldnt or doesnt?
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Rsfaze already explained to you why it wouldn't, both of the fixes do the same thing and by doing the same fix twice they do not combine to give you double the benefit.
Imagine your hard drive is fragmented and your PC is slow, well you defragment it and it becomes faster. What you are essentially saying is that if you keep on defragmenting it it will continue to become faster which is ludicrous, unless you can post a quadrant score of 3000

Iirc the virtual ext lag fix simply cached some of the data for quicker access, and that's the increase you're seeing.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant

Calcvictim said:
Rsfaze already explained to you why it wouldn't, both of the fixes do the same thing and by doing the same fix twice they do not combine to give you double the benefit.
Imagine your hard drive is fragmented and your PC is slow, well you defragment it and it becomes faster. What you are essentially saying is that if you keep on defragmenting it it will continue to become faster which is ludicrous, unless you can post a quadrant score of 3000
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Ok true, but arent the lag fixes different? They arent set up the same and put on different ext's
And why did it improve my quadrant scores? and usually the phone wont allow u to apply two
Lag fixes at once when they are the same thing. Because I am using the lag fix apk and the voodoo lag fix through rom manager. Try it and tell me what u think?

tissimo said:
Iirc the virtual ext lag fix simply cached some of the data for quicker access, and that's the increase you're seeing.
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Thx that makes sense. So do u think that is make making my phone faster?

Calcvictim said:
Rsfaze already explained to you why it wouldn't, both of the fixes do the same thing and by doing the same fix twice they do not combine to give you double the benefit.
Imagine your hard drive is fragmented and your PC is slow, well you defragment it and it becomes faster. What you are essentially saying is that if you keep on defragmenting it it will continue to become faster which is ludicrous, unless you can post a quadrant score of 3000
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Hey man, if those placebo pills work so well for him, don't stop filling his prescription.

Well i honestly dont know the details behind it but I can say that my phone does feel faster. So try it for yourself and tell me what you think. It is perfectly safe and you can always remove it. But just apply the voodoo and then go on market, and get ryanzas lag fix and apply that too. I am using the deodex rom so I dont knkw if that makes a difference. But thx for explainations. Later

grennis said:
Why stop there? Install another lagfix and I'm sure your phone will be 3X as fast!!!
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Haha, I seriously doubt this works, run 4 quadrant tests, the first being stock with no lag fix, second with one of the lag fixes, third with only the other lag fix that you did not use before, and lastly run a forth test with all of the lag fixes and post all the scores generated by quadrant.
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almyz125 said:
Haha, I seriously doubt this works, run 4 quadrant tests, the first being stock with no lag fix, second with one of the lag fixes, third with only the other lag fix that you did not use before, and lastly run a forth test with all of the lag fixes and post all the scores generated by quadrant.
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Stock odin 900
Ryanzas one click 2400 not believable but thats what quadrant says
Voodoo 1700 can see a real difference
Jacs kernal and no wake 1400 can feel diffrence mainly bcuz of overclock
Voodoo + ryanzas 2100 feels smoother and faster than just voodoo
Dont believe me than try for yourself.

If quadrant says so I believe it, though I am not able to try it I'm running the new leaked rom, I don't believe that is compatable with the voodoo lag fix.
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almyz125 said:
If quadrant says so I believe it, though I am not able to try it I'm running the new leaked rom, I don't believe that is compatable with the voodoo lag fix.
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Well the quadrant scores are just quadrant scores to me. I just go off of how many phone feels and what it does and it has never been snappier, my bro has same phone and he has the vodoo lag fix and we did a side by side comparison and mine was faster so I will let the people be the judge and let them try for them selves.

lilsav55 said:
I put on the new Voodoo Lag fix and have had no problems. My phone is as fast its ever been. Because before that I was using ryanzas lagfix on the market and kind of made my phone faster. So I removed ryanzas and put on the voodoo, and found I could still apply ryanzas, so I did and my phone is super fast. At least I feel like its faster. So for the devs I know this isnt a q&a but is this actually working, and can u guys apply this into ur future work?
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The voodoo lagfix uses ext4, which is a little slower but far safer. By installing ryan's virtual ext2, youve merely regained ext2's speed at the expense of ext4' safety along with the improvements gained from an optimized kernel.
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masterotaku said:
The voodoo lagfix uses ext4, which is a little slower but far safer. By installing ryan's virtual ext2, youve merely regained ext2's speed at the expense of ext4' safety along with the improvements gained from an optimized kernel.
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Ext2 has a faster write but Ext4 has a faster read when tests where done on the two. You already mentioned the safety of ext4 which would be the journaling that Ext2 does not do.
I still don't think ext2 would be faster than ext4 but I could be wrong.

lilsav55 said:
Ok so all I do is try to make my phone faster when I have time. But I partioned my sd on my mytouch with amon ra then I put my sd on ext 4....
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I don't get it. Why is this in the Vibrant forum at all?!!

Ryan's lag fix vs. Voodoo

I've got a rooted 2.1 stock Vibrant with ryan's lag fix. My quadrant score went from 876 to 2250 which is great. My linpak for android only went from 8.101 to 8.225 mflops. I would really like my mflops to be in the 10-15 range though. It also seems to be running much quicker. Would I see a bigger boost with voodoo or should I just keep ryans lag fix going. Is voodoo just as easy to install to. Also I've been dying for the Frodo OTA. Would both of these lag fixes work for 2.2

Huh. Huhuhuh. He said Frodo. Huhuhuh. Huhuh.

LOL, it's been a funny day today. This is almost as good as the guy who told the noob to put on three lag fixes, so it will be three time's as fast!!! LOL.
Let's all hope Frodo can get the One Ring to Mount Doom in time. Then him and the rest of Samsung dev team might get Froyo done soon. Only then can the world rest and our linpak score possibly rise!

I saw that post to and it was pretty funny. I just want to know the differences between the to lag fixes, and which one is better to have.

How about try them both and you be the judge of it? Results vary on people's setups. If I were you, I would wait for a more stable version of VooDoo.. I have applied it but many people have reported having problems detecting their SD card (external and internal). To fix this, you'd have to restore your apps using Titanium Backup etc etc.
I would definitely say VooDoo, I have used RyanZA and VooDoo. But since you're a new user, I'd just wait for the more stable version.

Does Voodoo reformat the entire SD to ext4 or does it symlink like Ryan's?
If it changes the whole file system to ext4 then I would say it has to be faster.

thanks foe responses, I will wait until voovdoo goes stable an see the performance myself.

Droidicus said:
Huh. Huhuhuh. He said Frodo. Huhuhuh. Huhuh.
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lolol
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you CANT get 10-15 mflops, if you read how the lagfixes work you would understand what you are measuring. i think with OC you might get mid 9's

Captivate Froyo + lagfix!!!

I can confirm that ext2 lagfix will work on our froyo release (non-stock). I am getting 1800+. There will be more details to come.....!

Using the One-Click lagfix...?

On my rooted froyo, OCLF from the market works fine, thought it is ext2. Gives me a quadrandt score of 1897.

Yeah, I applied it as well, from the Android Market (search RyanZA). It seems to be working fine, and is quite a bit less laggy. Voodoo on Congnition was better, but as far as I know OCLF is all we've got for Froyo.

Yes, 2,2 and EXT2 is an awesome fix until we get Voodoo!!!

Yes the oclf works from the market , you have to root first. With some reading I have rooted, sideloading, ext2 one click lag fix, market access restored to all apps showing up again. Quadrant 1800+ linpack 14 +
Froyo 2.2 Rooted Sideloaded and Screaming Fast
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For some reason, both of the lagfixes keep failing on me... V2.1+ and 1.0. Oh well... guess I'll just have to wait a bit until someone releases a specific one for the Captivate. Probably won't take long knowing XDA.

This worked for me. I set a partition size of 1023 (tried for 1024, but couldn't) and I get benchmarks (just for reference, I know, I know) of around 1300+ in Quadrant. More importantly, everything is much snappier. It reminds me of going from iPhone 3G to 3Gs.

And what do you know? Cognition beta was just released.
Some issues, but that's what betas are for, right?

Love it! Wicked fast now. Scoring 1887 on Quadrant now.

the ryanza lagfix i get fail.

no dice for me... can't mount after partition is made.. says it is busy or in use'

Kizzmiazz said:
market access restored to all apps showing up again.
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If you don't mind my asking, what did you do to retstor the full market?

1921-1925 quad score I did a few for normalization.
Froyo, Manually Rooted with rage, nobloat,non-market, sideloading ect. w/this OCLF.

lghaze said:
1921-1925 quad score I did a few for normalization.
Froyo, Manually Rooted with rage, nobloat,non-market, sideloading ect. w/this OCLF.
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What's nobloat?
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irtehun said:
What's nobloat?
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I'm guessing something that removes AT&T bloatware.

For everyone having trouble with lag fix...
Reboot into recovery and clear user data and cache.i think zilch mentioned this in a thread. I was having the same problem and that worked for me. If you have trouble getting into recovery, search the market for <recovery reboot> (or something like that) there should be a little button you can download for free. It should take you straight to recovery. Try to do oclf right after you clear data and cache. Just make sure your battery is over 40% or it will not work

Voodoo vs OCLF
I am aware of the technical differences between the Voodoo and OCLF lag fixes, but OCLF seems to fix the lag in Nitrodesk's Touchdown more effectively. For me, at least.
I see posts where people are waiting on Voodoo for Froyo, but personally, I'd like a fix from Samsung. The lag shouldn't require community resources to fix.
It shouldn't exist at all.

Mine failed when I installed it. I had apps FCing the whole time while it was running the fix.
I imagine the trick here would be to apply the fix before you restore your software. Probably a no brainer for many.
Anyways, that was the final straw for me. I'm back to Cog 2.1.6 until we get reliable stuff. 2.2 was far too buggy as a whole.

I am still amazed that people publish benchmark results for OCLF and think it means something. <sigh>
real world use is the real test

KA6 is frickin awesome !

Latency decreased from like 540 ms to 65ms and data speeds spiked from like 2 mb/s to about 4.6 mbits per second now.
I flashed ka6 OVER NEROV5 AND IT IS AWESOME.

Just to forewarn you. You'll get a message about the titles of this thread.
But any other enhancements to this ROM?

the rom has alot of elements from gingerbread and nexus s phone and gingerbread multitouch keyboard.

What are these...elements of Gingerbread you speak of? You're the first person to say anything about the build..

I think he thought you were talking about Nero.

I didn't like it, was getting slower data speed on this one.. so flashed back to ka5
just a ququestion.. i never noticed this till like now, the back of my phone is hot, i just checked and it's 106 degrees.. is that normal? I'm not charging right now, just listening to music and browsing the web, is it because of the leaked firmware?

That's 41'C right? Even so, that's pretty hot.

presence06 said:
That's 41'C right? Even so, that's pretty hot.
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The phone is having a fever. Nothing serious. Just reboot and it will be much happier.

presence06 said:
That's 41'C right? Even so, that's pretty hot.
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I know right.. coz i hardly not have the case on it so i never really noticed, after flashing the new leaked rom then flashed back, i haven't put the case on and just noticed how hot it is..
Do I flash back to j16? Maybe I should, or do I even have to worry at all?

swehes said:
The phone is having a fever. Nothing serious. Just reboot and it will be much happier.
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Will do that.. thanks

I'd keep an eye on it and see if it happens again or continues to stay hot.

presence06 said:
That's 41'C right? Even so, that's pretty hot.
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that's not too bad. i'm pretty sure i've seen mine get in excess of 50*C (according to setcpu widget) with no problems.

Ms_Vibrant said:
I didn't like it, was getting slower data speed on this one.. so flashed back to ka5
just a ququestion.. i never noticed this till like now, the back of my phone is hot, i just checked and it's 106 degrees.. is that normal? I'm not charging right now, just listening to music and browsing the web, is it because of the leaked firmware?
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Try replacing the water pump
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That's why I run nitrogen cooling.

It just needs more cowbell.

KA6
Really, doesn't everything need more cowbell?
KA6: I have been using it since it was released. It is nice. Better GPS than the previous releases. I do wonder why its not giving a faster quadrant score. I think it's RFS and the absence of a JIT compiler. Why can't Samsung just change to EXT 4? I'm not an expert by any means but the lag fixes use EXT 4. I know Quadrant is not an end-all-be-all test, but why would the Nexus one be putting out big numbers on older hardware?

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Really, doesn't everything need more cowbell?
KA6: I have been using it since it was released. It is nice. Better GPS than the previous releases. I do wonder why its not giving a faster quadrant score. I think it's RFS and the absence of a JIT compiler. Why can't Samsung just change to EXT 4? I'm not an expert by any means but the lag fixes use EXT 4. I know Quadrant is not an end-all-be-all test, but why would the Nexus one be putting out big numbers on older hardware?
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Absence of a JIT compiler? I thought THAT was a feature added in Froyo.

Who said this build didn't have a JIT compiler? It runs 13-14 Linpack scores just like every other SGS Froyo build. The compiler is not optimized for our processor, so you don't get the N1 type of scores. Gingerbread is optimized, which is the reason for the giant leap in stock Quadrant (ext 4 helps too). Patiently waiting for Krylon to work the bugs out of GB

Just went from a noob to a super duper updated vibrant, now running KA6 with Voodo kernel lagfix