On the Gmail app on the Vibrant, is there any way to set when your phone checks for mail? I'd like to be able to lower the rate at which it checks. Can't seem to find any option for it whatsoever.
As far as I know, there is no polling interval. New e-mails are pushed directly to your phone the moment they arrive.
vapotrini said:
On the Gmail app on the Vibrant, is there any way to set when your phone checks for mail? I'd like to be able to lower the rate at which it checks. Can't seem to find any option for it whatsoever.
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If you want to do this, you need to turn off email sync, with gmail , and set gmail up with the regular email app on the phone, gmail gets push mail notifictations, the regular app polls at a set time.
Thanks for the responses.
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As far as I know, there is no polling interval. New e-mails are pushed directly to your phone the moment they arrive.
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
A further question:
Will Gmail still update if you turn off Auto Sync? What about Background Data?
if you turn off auto sync, then nothing will come to the phone that is on that account, email, contacts, calendar, etc. its either all on or all off
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
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Not necessarily. You may want to look into other options to conserve battery life, but if you feel that Gmail is the culprit, Id say that watcher has the appropriate solution. The regular email app, is decidedly less feature filled, but you can certainly change the polling interval with it.
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Will Gmail still update if you turn off Auto Sync? What about Background Data?
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No, with Auto-sync off, you only get calls and texts.
Push is not Poll
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Well if that's true then surely that is hurting battery life, no?
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I don't believe that is necessarily true. Gmail leaves a TCP/IP connection open to a server, but transmits no data unless there is a new message. In other words, think of your phone as running a very simple and secure server that is ready and listening for Google to connect to it and alert it that there is a new message to retrieve (I don't think it's really a server, but it helps conceptually). Leaving that port open and a constant connection with no data flowing requires no additional battery life over what is necessary for your cellular modem to be on (which you need to be able to receive calls as well).
Wikipedia says that the technology used is Microsoft ActiveSync, but I'm inclined to believe it's XMPP (which is what Google Talk uses and is built into Android for other uses as well). But the above description of the technology is valid either way.
(spamblocker, remove the spaces) http :// en.wikipedia. org /wiki/ Push_e-mail # Google_Android
Every time a message is received, battery life is consumed in order to download the message. So, if you were to get the message on your desktop first, handle it, and delete it, I presume that would save you the battery life of the download of that message, but that is a very nominal amount of battery life. I wouldn't worry about it.
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If you want to do this, you need to turn off email sync, with gmail , and set gmail up with the regular email app on the phone, gmail gets push mail notifictations, the regular app polls at a set time.
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Just a heads up to the OP (or anyone interested) regarding the stock email application- my experience was that the polling interval was unreliable. I have 3 email accounts, 2 of them were set to check on frequent intervals like 10 minutes or something and the third was set up to check on the hour.
Often times the stock email app would miss the intervals or would not check at all. Additionally there were numerous occasions that mail was sitting on my server but the stock vibrant mail would report no messages.
Your mileage may vary as many people seem to have very different experiences with their phones and bugs. My experience with the stock email app was pretty poor so I thought it worth sharing.
GPS and such annoyed me but I figured I'd be able to wait it out for a fix. Email was nearly a deal breaker though, especially having these problems after coming from blackberrys which do a great job with email.
I figured gmail was the way to go but i didnt want to get into some complex forwading scheme fr all of my email addresses.
The way I ended up working it out was to set up a free Google business account and change the mx records on my mail server to run through Google servers instead of my webhosts servers. Now I'm running all of my email addresses on the Gmail application and have push email and aside from a few minor gripes with the gmail/android interface I am pretty happy overall.
I'd suggest sticking with the gmail application, push email is a good thing.
Juice Defender from the market allows for setting how often your phone connects to a data connection. More or less doing the same thing.
I don't personally use it since I don't care, but it should answer the OP's question with a working solution.
Thanks for all the responses guys, a lot of good alternatives out there it seems.
I don't get all that many emails a day so was just curious if disabling it would save a lot of battery life. Since the general consensus is that it doesn't I'll leave it be.
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I've been doing a lot of searching (push poll battery), and not finding much of a definitive answer on this.
Battery life, vs. email checking method... what impact does push (IMAP IDLE) have vs. polling.
And very possibly the answer varies depending on how often you would poll... ie. I could see that polling every 5 minutes uses more battery than push, but polling only once/hour would use less .. I'm not saying that;s the case, just saying maybe the answers are not so clear b/c its not an always-this or always-that answer.
It appears that the GMail app uses push. I don't really use Gmail for my mail.. I have a home server (linux box) that runs an IMAP server (and webmail), so I have multiple ways I can get my mail
a) over the web via browser
b) using K-9 to access my home IMAP via poll (let's say every 15 minutes)
c) using K-9 to access my home IMAP via IMAP IDLE (push)
d) insert other idea here
I think a) is probably the best battery life, but by far the least convenient, so really I'm trying to understand the differences/trade-offs for b&c (and open to learning if I've missed a better way (d).
thanks,
Mike
Theoretically, it should be "c" given the choices you present.
In practice however, I have found that k9mail is a bloated pig and dead slow. It might not use up much network in the imap idle, but the thing seems to have a constant and very ugly hit against the CPU.
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Theoretically, it should be "c" given the choices you present.
In practice however, I have found that k9mail is a bloated pig and dead slow. It might not use up much network in the imap idle, but the thing seems to have a constant and very ugly hit against the CPU.
Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Thanks for the info!
Is there a better IMAP client vs. K-9? (I found that it at least is much better than the stock mail proggy and haven't seen really any suggestions for alternatives for IMAP)
Is there an option d I should consider? (its my linux server at home.. I use fetchmail to collect/condense several email accts to one.. and can install other packages if there is something I should try)
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How about just forwarding everything to your gmail address?
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How about just forwarding everything to your gmail address?
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Nah.. I like having everything on my home server.
I like Google, but don't need/want to have all my mail sitting there for them to parse.
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Nah.. I like having everything on my home server.
I like Google, but don't need/want to have all my mail sitting there for them to parse.
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.... forwarding it does NOT mean that you are deleting it from your home server. You can have it in both places.
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.... forwarding it does NOT mean that you are deleting it from your home server. You can have it in both places.
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Understood.. I just prefer to keep *any* company from having 100% of my personal life flowing thru their hands (I avoided having my contacts even uploaded into "the cloud" until I got this phone), so I'm looking for best battery practice methods that offer a fair compromise of email timeliness, battery life, and access my server (tho adding/upgrading my server to support some kind of better feature is certainly fair game.. its Ubuntu 9.10)
I don't wear tin foil hats I just detest spam... and (IMO) the best way to avoid spam is to keep control over your info.
I highly doubt that any of your emails are particularly secure. Unless you are certain that there is an SSL pipe all the way from your SMTP client through to the other guy's SMTP client, and that there is no windoze-anything anywhere along the lines, then it is trivial for anyone to read your emails.
With that, it would be *really* nice if they added public key encryption to the gmail application.... (not the gmail web service, but directly in the application).
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Gmail push delivery is quite similar to using imap idle. There is some difference in the execution of push email delivery though... you will find that gmail only pushed the notifications and not the message itself. k9 actually pushes the message so that it would be available for reading offline.
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Sorry for regain an old post, but ive constant problem with gmail app.
I never can had notification from gmail when an emal arrives.
I flashed cyan5.07test5, set my gmail account to import hotmail messages, and enabled imap and pop3 via web interface.
I installed Gmail Notifier (free on the market) too.
I set "Automatic sincronization" and" background data" (sorry for wrong translation, i've an italian phone), but gmail never automatically synchronize new mails nor notify that. I can manually update only, and he're we go. Any help?
fl3xo said:
Sorry for regain an old post, but ive constant problem with gmail app.
I never can had notification from gmail when an emal arrives.
I flashed cyan5.07test5, set my gmail account to import hotmail messages, and enabled imap and pop3 via web interface.
I installed Gmail Notifier (free on the market) too.
I set "Automatic sincronization" and" background data" (sorry for wrong translation, i've an italian phone), but gmail never automatically synchronize new mails nor notify that. I can manually update only, and he're we go. Any help?
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This question is totally unrelated. I'll answer you here, but if you have further questions along the same line, you must start a new thread to address it, OK?
First off, gmail notifier should NOT be used, nor anything else that might interfere.
Second, gmail notifications go over gtalk on port 5228. I do notice some oddities re gtalk/5228 on CM507, but pushes seem to work (at least on t5 and for me...)
Ensure that you are signed in to gtalk service -- by running the "talk" application and signing in (and setting it to sign in automatically). This might help you.
POP and IMAP have nothing to do with this at all.
Something else you didn't mention is whether this problem you are experiencing is limited to the CM507 ROM, or if you've had it previously. This makes a big difference -- if it didn't work before, then you need to consider the possibility that your mobile data provider is interfering somehow. I know that Wind in Canada initially caused some trouble for google services on 5228, I don't know if it was perhaps related to a similar policy implemented elsewhere. We have since had a dialog with them and have had these kinds of issues eliminated.
wow lbcoder, you must be sick.
I didn't notice any sarcasm and you were polite.
lol
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wow lbcoder, you must be sick.
I didn't notice any sarcasm and you were polite.
lol
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Ah, BITE ME
(feel better now? )
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Ah, BITE ME
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haha. much
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This question is totally unrelated. I'll answer you here, but if you have further questions along the same line, you must start a new thread to address it, OK?
First off, gmail notifier should NOT be used, nor anything else that might interfere.
Second, gmail notifications go over gtalk on port 5228. I do notice some oddities re gtalk/5228 on CM507, but pushes seem to work (at least on t5 and for me...)
Ensure that you are signed in to gtalk service -- by running the "talk" application and signing in (and setting it to sign in automatically). This might help you.
POP and IMAP have nothing to do with this at all.
Something else you didn't mention is whether this problem you are experiencing is limited to the CM507 ROM, or if you've had it previously. This makes a big difference -- if it didn't work before, then you need to consider the possibility that your mobile data provider is interfering somehow. I know that Wind in Canada initially caused some trouble for google services on 5228, I don't know if it was perhaps related to a similar policy implemented elsewhere. We have since had a dialog with them and have had these kinds of issues eliminated.
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You always help, it was the gtalk service for some reason not initiated.
Ive tried with openssl a lot with no result.
Yes, lbcoder is real sarcastic BUT had always some special gear.
thx a lot
I'm having troubles with pop email accounts, I'm not being notified for new emails, they do not show up in my inbox until i manually open the email client - I have my client to auto check every 5 minutes, yet if I don't check for half a day and then login I have emails from all times of the day being loaded into my inbox.
my friend is having the issue, was wondering if anyone else was?
It's with hotmail, yahoo and ever business emails servers.
suggestions?
Thanks in advanced
nobody noticed that there email isn't polling when it should be?
If you are using an app-killer, make sure your email app isnt killed with it, since that would eliminate the option to auto-fetch emails.
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If you are using an app-killer, make sure your email app isnt killed with it, since that would eliminate the option to auto-fetch emails.
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Pls check these items.
Have you add to auto kill list? then remove it. along with email app.
com.andorid.provider.download
google.android.apps.uploader
data sync should be on.
try it.
Im sure yore battery life wont last 2 days. and why did you setup pop3? Go for Imap it saves resources and disk space.
Let your computer do POP3 work.
no appkiller of any kind installed
I just noticed now I havn't received emails to my phone in the last 3 days, I had to manualy open the app to fetch it, update is set to 30 min
I use moxier and it updates and polls fine,
email app doesn't.
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every other functions works great
robbyf66 said:
no appkiller of any kind installed
I just noticed now I havn't received emails to my phone in the last 3 days, I had to manualy open the app to fetch it, update is set to 30 min
I use moxier and it updates and polls fine,
email app doesn't.
x10a rooted on o24 software
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On the first day I got the phone, before doing anything (root) to it, I also noticed that it didn't poll. Had it set for 5 minutes, background data on and it did nothing. Never polled once all day.
So rather than waste my time with something (else) from SE that didn't work I just installed K-9 Mail and never looked backed since
i have all my accounts forwarded to my gmail which i believe is push on android phones (someone correct me if im wrong), although this probably doesnt save battery life, i prefer having my email pushed
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i have all my accounts forwarded to my gmail which i believe is push on android phones (someone correct me if im wrong), although this probably doesnt save battery life, i prefer having my email pushed
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agree...just let gmail take care of it
I prefer to reply or send emails from my actual email account, I did use k9 for a while and it was working and i do like all the additional advanced features it offers. All I need is basic send/receive from a basic client and the android email app is suppose to work like that.
thanks so far guys
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agree...just let gmail take care of it
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The regular email client is a bit lacking. Your issue isn't common though. Must be just missing something in the setting somewhere...if not you could always do the total reset on the phone i guess if you really had too.
I recently just caved in and made the full switch to Gmail for all of my accounts. Much easier to manage. It IS full push email I believe, plus imap makes things so much easier it's not even comparible.
It's too bad the gmail app on the phone won't let you send from multiple addys, but the web interface is good for sending from a diff addy in a pinch.
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I'm having troubles with pop email accounts, I'm not being notified for new emails, they do not show up in my inbox until i manually open the email client - I have my client to auto check every 5 minutes, yet if I don't check for half a day and then login I have emails from all times of the day being loaded into my inbox.
my friend is having the issue, was wondering if anyone else was?
It's with hotmail, yahoo and ever business emails servers.
suggestions?
Thanks in advanced
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Just checked it today, App killer was set for auto kill after a hour. Disabled, now push email works.....
Ok. I have been playing with the Galaxy for the last 3 days and I have a few things that I find quite annoying. Not sure if it is just mine or it is the same with everyone so I just want to start this thread to see. This is my list:
Missing emails. I have 1 exchange account and 3 POP accounts set up excluding the Gmail one and have been experiencing a few missing emails. They showed up in my Notebook but not on the phone.
I set the checking interval at 30 minutes but it does not sync. I have to manually refresh it.
There is no setting like in the HTC devices which you can set the size limit and some other options which I felt are important.
Lag is quite a problem with a few different operations, like deleting emails in the trash folder. It can take more than a minute to delete all which is strange.
I went to dinner tonight at a place where the reception is poor. It lost the signal completely and would not even get back on afterwards until I reset the phone
Most of my problems seems to be with the email. Otherwise the device has been good. I hope this is just a problem with my phone so that I can exchange it. Please let me know if any of you guys are experiencing the same thing. Thanks
Did you happen to use a task killer to kill off your email task?
Interesting thought. I've never thought about that as it was never a problem with any of the previous HTC Android devices. I will add that to the ignore list and see. Thanks.
Well, I include the email in the ignore list and it's a little bit better. I am now getting all the emails but I still have to check the email manually. I set the schedule to 30 minutes but it is not doing it. Strange.
This happens to me constantly as well, losing reception completely, even though its supposed to be really good, and the only way to fix it is to reboot the unit.
Does anyone have a clue as to what could be the problem here?
I'm glad I moved to gmail, it sounds like the other mail client sucks.
dakine; said:
I'm glad I moved to gmail, it sounds like the other mail client sucks.
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Does this mail client work for non-gmail accounts too? I've tried many mail clients, including K-9, Droidmail, and found them to be too slow for serious use. I really need a higher performance email client.
You can set gmail to collect from all other email accounts.
I have gmail account to collect from my hotmail and my yahoo account.
It works for me.
Have a weird problem. Got the Epic on release day, set up my two emails that I want to be able to check from the phone, a POP3 account and a Gmail (that is not associated to the phone to sync).
Both are set to auto check for new mail every 5 mins. Everything worked great for about a day, but then stopped.
Neither email account is auto checking for mail regardless of the frequency I set it to. 5 mins, 10 mins, hourly, etc.
If I go into the inbox however for one of the email accounts it seems to instantly check for new mail and then all the messages show up.
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
Ok, after doing some Googling and coming across a comment on some random site I did a little test.
I have two email accounts configured, and both were set to check every 5 minutes. It seems that the stock email app has some kind of issue initiating more than one email check at a time, so if you have multiple accounts and have them set to the same check frequency, it breaks. I left one account at 5 minutes, set the other to 10 minutes, and they both were able to receive test messages I sent.
How retarded.
Hopefully there will be a fix for this at some point.
Mine is doing this too! however i do have them on different times. i haven't got a notification i got email i have to click email then it loads the messages?
Any way to fix this?
Exactly what mine was doing but putting the frequency check times at different times 5 min & 10 min seemed to have fixed it.
I just sent two more test emails to make sure it wasn't a fluke and will report back if it did indeed fix mine or just happened to work once after I had rebooted the phone.
Hmm,..previous test was a fluke maybe affected by having gotten an SMS around the same time...
Mine is still broken.
I have found that the email app must stay running in the background in order to sync additional mailboxes other than the default gmail account. Make sure any task killers are configured to ignore the email app. Using the Home key to exit mail works for me. YMMV!
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I don't have any task killers installed, but I do exit the mail program with the back button.
I'll try starting it up, and then just exiting using the home button to see if that changes the behavior.
I'll report back the results.
ddialogue said:
I have found that the email app must stay running in the background in order to sync additional mailboxes other than the default gmail account. Make sure any task killers are configured to ignore the email app. Using the Home key to exit mail works for me. YMMV!
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i let it run and didn't end it and it still didn't work i just have my email. i just forwarded my aol to gmail and now i dont have have to worry about it.
im having the same issue... This could be a deal breaker for me
Also the damn battery takes 4 hours to fully charge
Ok, leaving the email app running in the background by using the home key to exit it vs the back key made no difference. Still doesn't refresh the inbox until you open the email app up and go into it.
This sucks.
Anyone?
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Sorry, posted in wrong thread! had 2 open and picked the wrong one.
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My Battery life sucks also, am trying a few things now to see if anything makes a difference. I removed Fring, did the on/off airplane mode thing, and am running the Juice Plotter to see if anything changes. only 4 to 5 hours of average use that my Hero could handle kills this battery!
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How is this relevant to the topic?
i have 2 yahoos and a gmail and they are all updating fine. who is the provider of this email service?
One is a Gmail account the other a POP3 that had no issues over the last 5-6 years on WinMo using Sprint, nor on Android on my old Touch Pro, so that isn't the issue.
After roaming around the net a bit, it seems this a fairly widespread issue with no known fixes yet.
I also have this issue, and its quite frustrating. I have email accts for hotmail, gmail, yahoo, and aol. The only one that gets mail properly is the hotmail account, since it's set up using ActiveSync. The others often don't show as getting new email for about a day or so unless I manually go into each account. Only then will it realize there are new messages.
I too am having the same problem. My default e-mail is a comcast account set up to check every 5 mins. My 2nd acct is a gmail acct set to check every 30 mins. Coming to this phone from a blackberry and my curve would get the e-mails faster than my PC's outlook would.
I rooted my wife's EVO the day she got it bc she hated all the pre-loaded sprint bs. I'm in the same boat with my epic, but i'm hesistant to root it and load an Android 2.2 rom because i want to wait for bugs like this to be fixed.
I'm also getting a pop-up error msg on my epic about 4-5 times per day that says something along the lines of "unable to connect to network", even though i have service on the top "taskbar". The pop-up gives me the option to retry or cancel. Either selection doesn't seem to do anything. I have wi-fi, 4g, gps, and bluetooth turned off for battery life. I don't know if this could correlate to the e-mail syncing problem so I figured i'd toss it out there.
You know, the frustrating thing is I sit here and wait for months for this phone to come out and then they have all these problems with it. My wife's HTC EVO hasn't had a single problem since day 1 and she got it on release day too. The only thing good i can say about this epic compared to the evo (with exception of the slide out keyboard) is the battery life is marginally better on standby.
Subscribing to see what the fix is...
A lot of sites are rumoring there being some type of OTA update near the end of September. Some say it will just e fixes and patches for 2.1 for things exactly like this, others are crossing their fingers that it may be Froyo.
Either way, as long as it fixes this issue I'll be happy...so we'll just have to cross our fingers, wait and see.
lately my e-mail checking has been getting worse, sometimes not even syncing certain items. i went into settings and compared the send receive port #'s to the ones set up in my outlook, and the settings were all wrong as well as the port #'s. I changed them all to match my outlook and now everything is working fine for the moment. time will tell if this was the problem.
I'd be surprised if that fixes it for you.
I know that isn't the issue with mine. All of my manually configured server settings are correct and it still does it.
Crossing my fingers this will be patched/updated at some point, but until then I have MailDroid installed which is getting new mail notifications perfectly. I don't really like MailDroid as much as the integrated client, so whenever MailDroid lets me know I have an email, I just go into the stock email client and manually refresh to read/reply/etc.
I know there are already numerous topics on this, and some temp Fixes, but I am about to just get rid of this phone, android, its so frustrating....and yes, i do need exchange email for my job,....this is whats going:
I'm seriously beyond annoyed at this point, exchange email is destroying my battery life on my nexus 4 running stock 4.2.2 (30% to 40% of battery consumption) ... I have done all the little "fixes" and troubleshooting that you can possible do to try to fix this and have spent hours searching online for any fixes, and all I have found is people having the same issue as me.....this is what I have done already:
I've removed the exchange email,
re-booted
re-added
cleared cache
clear data
re-booted
disabled
enable
set days to sync to 1 days, 3 days, automatic, etc....
check frequency to push, never, 1 hour etc....
I've disabled auto-sync data
enabled
i went to my outlook 365 web settings and under phones i deleted the nexus 4 profile..
in the exchange email settings on my phone i have used "m.outlook.com" for my server name
and the generic server name pulled from the outlook 365 web address recommended by the IT guy at my job
i have used and removed the Port "443"
the only thing i haven't done is throw the phone against the wall
oh and I have done factory reset TWICE! and that fixes the issue temporarily until this starts occurring again, oh and did i mention it gets super hot over 101°....the weird thing is I have the same exchange email setup on my nexus 7 and it barely hits 3% of battery usage, so why is my nexus 4 suffering from exchange email battery drain, and my nexus 7 doesn't? Unfortunately i work in a job where i need PUSH email on due to the industry i work in (merchants/e-commerce) my job offered to get me a company iPhone and I don't want to carry 2 phones, especially an iPhone.....anyone know any magical secret to fixing this? Or is this a 4.2+ bug that has no solution at this point....
Are you using a custom kernel? If not flash one. I recommend trinity, but test and choose which works best for you. Lower the CPU some to reduce the heating with any various app. I'm using trickster mod.
I have stock email set but I have it to manual updating. I get roughly 7-8 hours screen hours screen on time with WiFi around 5 with mobile data. Hope this helps some.
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Are you using a custom kernel? If not flash one. I recommend trinity, but test and choose which works best for you. Lower the CPU some to reduce the heating with any various app. I'm using trickster mod.
I have stock email set but I have it to manual updating. I get roughly 7-8 hours screen hours screen on time with WiFi around 5 with mobile data. Hope this helps some.
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No i am running stock android 4.2.....Thanks for the advice, but I do not want to flash, root, etc... my stock nexus 4. I shouldn't have to in order to fix something that comes stock in android 4.2. I would prefer to just run the stock android and let Google deal with updates, I know android phones are awesome at customization, but I am one who likes stock android as is (nexus devices) I dont like tweaking with custom roms, no matter how stable they are, cause I always read threads on people always having issues with apps not being compatible, radio issues, manual updates on roms, etc...but I completely understand the benefits of custom roms and kernels, as you pointed out above. thanks again but this is not going to solve my issue.
I reckon I understand your feeling although the whole reason I got this device is for customization. With newer phones boot loaders being locked down and a drag to work with, this thing is great.
If you keep it stock thats fine but to save batter youd probably have to cut down a lot. Turn screen brightness all the way off, disable auto sync, disable apps you dont use so they dont run in the background. Turn off GPS and location settings unless they're in use. Stay on WiFi / 2G when not using data. Kinda a drag yano?
benman715 said:
I reckon I understand your feeling although the whole reason I got this device is for customization. With newer phones boot loaders being locked down and a drag to work with, this thing is great.
If you keep it stock thats fine but to save batter youd probably have to cut down a lot. Turn screen brightness all the way off, disable auto sync, disable apps you dont use so they dont run in the background. Turn off GPS and location settings unless they're in use. Stay on WiFi / 2G when not using data. Kinda a drag yano?
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exactly, I mean i get the pros and cons for both stock and flashing, rooting etc....but I am no dev, and i know some of the stuff is easy to do, but I get OCD about having to worry if the kernel or ROM is up to date, will all my favorite apps work, what if I brick my phone etc....i just like the nexus devices where it is bone stock.....
as for all the other settings for saving the battery, I already do all the battery saving tips, but its funny cause they dont seem to affect the battery as much as the email exchange...i should have posted a pic...
Weird indeed. I'm using three e-mail accounts on my phone with hourly updates and it doesn't kill the battery. I still get 4 hours of screen on time (need to charge once in 24 hours usually). Did you set it so that it doesn't download attachments, pictures etc?
drbrainsol said:
Weird indeed. I'm using three e-mail accounts on my phone with hourly updates and it doesn't kill the battery. I still get 4 hours of screen on time (need to charge once in 24 hours usually). Did you set it so that it doesn't download attachments, pictures etc?
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I am using the exchange email (yellow and white icon) that comes stock in android 4.2, and I have it set to Push notification which is suppose to help with battery, and i have turned off that setting that says "auto download attachments on WIFI only" but that setting is for WIFI only which doesnt make sense cause even with it off, when I am on regular 4G data, its still killing battery.....
I give up...maybe with all the current complaints on this issue, google may send out a new update.....
gmonterrosa82 said:
I am using the exchange email (yellow and white icon) that comes stock in android 4.2, and I have it set to Push notification which is suppose to help with battery, and i have turned off that setting that says "auto download attachments on WIFI only" but that setting is for WIFI only which doesnt make sense cause even with it off, when I am on regular 4G data, its still killing battery.....
I give up...maybe with all the current complaints on this issue, google may send out a new update.....
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i wish i could help, but i'm using my Nexus 4 the exact same as yours (100% stock) and i've not had any of those problems (my Exchange Service is sitting at 3%), so it may not be as widespread as you think.
good luck with this though.
Question to the OP. Are you adding your exchange through the email app or in settings > accounts > corporate?
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Lucke said:
i wish i could help, but i'm using my Nexus 4 the exact same as yours (100% stock) and i've not had any of those problems (my Exchange Service is sitting at 3%), so it may not be as widespread as you think.
good luck with this though.
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its weird i know, but if you spend as many hours, days, searching the internet like I have, you will find how many many people are having this issue on android 4.1 and above.....My head hurts from reading so many threads with my exact issue, and people giving some temp fixes, and some fixes that didnt even work....its frustrating,
but i will say i just re-added my exchange email and chose 1 month of emails to download rather then "automatic" and so far its creeping up to 2% but getting hot.....its at 92 degrees
El Daddy said:
Question to the OP. Are you adding your exchange through the email app or in settings > accounts > corporate?
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ah, good question, so I have tested both methods, adding it through the "corporate" option, and adding it through "email" option, both gave me identical issues....do you know which method I should be using? I mean i already tried both, and both were draining my battery but if I can just focus on just one method then it wont drive me crazy.....The only difference I notice is, when you do it through "corporate" it goes straight into the exchange settings, when you go through the "email" method it will ask you after entering the email address and password, "POP3, IMAP, and exchange...i chose exchange, and then it goes into the default exchange settings area just like the email option....
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ah, good question, so I have tested both methods, adding it through the "corporate" option, and adding it through "email" option, both gave me identical issues....do you know which method I should be using? I mean i already tried both, and both were draining my battery but if I can just focus on just one method then it wont drive me crazy.....The only difference I notice is, when you do it through "corporate" it goes straight into the exchange settings, when you go through the "email" method it will ask you after entering the email address and password, "POP3, IMAP, and exchange...i chose exchange, and then it goes into the default exchange settings area just like the email option....
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I was just curious because I use the "corporate" method with my work account, but don't have any issues. I will see heavy battery drain if our server goes down, otherwise I don't have issues.
Another thing you could try is an app from the market. I know its probably not an ideal solution, but maybe something like touchdown will alleviate the issue.
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I was just curious because I use the "corporate" method with my work account, but don't have any issues. I will see heavy battery drain if our server goes down, otherwise I don't have issues.
Another thing you could try is an app from the market. I know its probably not an ideal solution, but maybe something like touchdown will alleviate the issue.
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yeah i am currently using the corporate method, and it still sucks battery.....but you know what I have notice, which may be a clue, the internet at my job is really really slow, our outlook emails take forever sometimes to send, receive, etc....so I am going to assume this is probably affecting my email on my phone as well....so I just set my exchange email to "never" check instead of "push" and i have told my job that their slow internet is killing my phones battery lol
Been using this phone and the stock email client for exchange since launch and have used multiple roms & kernels. Never had any battery drain issues and things were only getting better...until Monday of this week. That's when all hell broke loose. Full battery drained in record time. Overheating, barely responsive and overall just not being a good phone. Tried going back to stock and some other rom / kernel combos. Even tried a sim from a different carrier, the problem persists.
A couple days prior to phoneageddon I was prompted to setup the email app as a device administrator (See ScreenShot) a hand full of times. I usually only see this whenever I setup the account, after a wipe and whatnot. Since phoneageddon I have noticed that whenever the exchange services starts to act up, I know that sometime soon I will be prompted again. Whether or not this is related or not is unknown.
I just so happen to be an Exchange Admin at my company and know that no policy changes have been made in past couple weeks and that Windows patches were installed on the 1st.
We have ~2000 mobile devices of different flavors connecting to our mail system and so far no one else has reported a problem. Until this is resolved I have gone back to using TouchDown, no problems what so ever.
I will try to reproduce the problem fresh tomorrow or this weekend sometime and grab the logs from the server to post on here. I went through them once before and nothing stood out.
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Been using this phone and the stock email client for exchange since launch and have used multiple roms & kernels. Never had any battery drain issues and things were only getting better...until Monday of this week. That's when all hell broke loose. Full battery drained in record time. Overheating, barely responsive and overall just not being a good phone. Tried going back to stock and some other rom / kernel combos. Even tried a sim from a different carrier, the problem persists.
A couple days prior to phoneageddon I was prompted to setup the email app as a device administrator (See ScreenShot) a hand full of times. I usually only see this whenever I setup the account, after a wipe and whatnot. Since phoneageddon I have noticed that whenever the exchange services starts to act up, I know that sometime soon I will be prompted again. Whether or not this is related or not is unknown.
I just so happen to be an Exchange Admin at my company and know that no policy changes have been made in past couple weeks and that Windows patches were installed on the 1st.
We have ~2000 mobile devices of different flavors connecting to our mail system and so far no one else has reported a problem. Until this is resolved I have gone back to using TouchDown, no problems what so ever.
I will try to reproduce the problem fresh tomorrow or this weekend sometime and grab the logs from the server to post on here. I went through them once before and nothing stood out.
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wow sounds similar to me, its just unacceptable, and the IT guy here just informed me that he hasnt changed anything on his end, so it cant be the servers fault for the massive draining of battery on my phone, he told me all the other users with iphones, are set up the same, PUSH, and automatic email downloads, and none of them are reporting any massive battery draining.
Currently my phone is set to PUSH and 1 week of emails to download, and its already at 19% battery usage for exchange services and 18% email.....this blows...
I wonder why this is happening
Ran the stock email client with logging enabled over the weekend and was unable to reproduce the issue. So the fix is... Enable logging!
BTW, if your Exchange admin allows it, you should be able to access the Exchange Control Panel and start logging for your device yourself. Check with your Admins first!
**While you shouldn't be able to anything to destructive in the ECP, you take full responsibility for what may happen.**
How to access the Exchange Control Panel - See ScreenShot:
Log into your company's webmail (OWA)
Click Options (Top Right of screen)
Click 'See All Options'
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Directly by replacing /OWA with /ECP at the end of the URL. From this: https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/OWA to this https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/ECP
Once there, click Phone, find your current device in the list and click start logging.
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DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!
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To stop logging follow the same instructions, but this time the 'Start Logging' button will say 'Retrieve Logs'. It will then email you the log file.
I was getting a 3-5mb log for 24 hours with everything working normally.
It's probably not a good idea to blindly post the log on the internet as it could have personal / company information within. Either sanitize it or if you would trust a random nerd on XDA, PM me and I can help.
hideous said:
Ran the stock email client with logging enabled over the weekend and was unable to reproduce the issue. So the fix is... Enable logging!
BTW, if your Exchange admin allows it, you should be able to access the Exchange Control Panel and start logging for your device yourself. Check with your Admins first!
**While you shouldn't be able to anything to destructive in the ECP, you take full responsibility for what may happen.**
How to access the Exchange Control Panel - See ScreenShot:
Log into your company's webmail (OWA)
Click Options (Top Right of screen)
Click 'See All Options'
-OR -
Directly by replacing /OWA with /ECP at the end of the URL. From this: https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/OWA to this https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/ECP
Once there, click Phone, find your current device in the list and click start logging.
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DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!
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To stop logging follow the same instructions, but this time the 'Start Logging' button will say 'Retrieve Logs'. It will then email you the log file.
I was getting a 3-5mb log for 24 hours with everything working normally.
It's probably not a good idea to blindly post the log on the internet as it could have personal / company information within. Either sanitize it or if you would trust a random nerd on XDA, PM me and I can help.
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Hey sorry I am a little confused about the part that says "DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!"
So am I suppose to stop the logging at a certain point? And what is the logging suppose to do?
I went into the control panel in the web outlook, and now I am logging.....And sadly the exchange service and email are slowly creeping up to 10% battery usage, and its getting higher and higher as we speak....
I set it to default settings as i did before (Check frequency to Automatic Push) and days to sync always default to "one Month"
and its at 12% now.....this is so frustrating...and the IT guy was not helpful, he said its nothing on his end, which i can understand because this was never an issue on my phone before. now its just massive battery usage....I give up I am going to just create a bookmark shortcut and access the web outlook 365 and have to manually check every once and a while
gmonterrosa82 said:
Hey sorry I am a little confused about the part that says "DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!"
So am I suppose to stop the logging at a certain point? And what is the logging suppose to do?
I went into the control panel in the web outlook, and now I am logging.....And sadly the exchange service and email are slowly creeping up to 10% battery usage, and its getting higher and higher as we speak....
I set it to default settings as i did before (Check frequency to Automatic Push) and days to sync always default to "one Month"
and its at 12% now.....this is so frustrating...and the IT guy was not helpful, he said its nothing on his end, which i can understand because this was never an issue on my phone before. now its just massive battery usage....I give up I am going to just create a bookmark shortcut and access the web outlook 365 and have to manually check every once and a while
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AFAIK the logging will continue until you tell it to stop. Which means the file size will continue to grow.
You should stop logging after you have been having issues for a while and take a look.
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AFAIK the logging will continue until you tell it to stop. Which means the file size will continue to grow.
You should stop logging after you have been having issues for a while and take a look.
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Well I stopped it, I never got any report, or any attachments of any report...
I probably didnt do it correctly, however I am still getting high battery usage, Right now it shows Exchange service at 23% and the email usage at 21%.... phones temperature is at 92 degrees, very hot!
I just removed the account, and disabled the email service, cleared data, force stop, and it still shows that its draining the battery lol
wow I give up, My job will have to provide me with an iphone.....so i will have 2 phones YAY!