Hey all.
Been having problems with a Nexus One that crashes at seemingly random times.
I have been unable to pin it on anything, and am asking your help.
It appears to be independent of the Rom installed, whether there is an SD card present, or whether its connected to a USB cable or phone charger.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Phone Info:
Nexus One (AT&T model)
Radio: 4.06.00.12_7
Current Rom: Enomther's TheOfficial Nexus1 - v2.12.2
Provider: Rogers (BC, Canada)
Logcat output attached as screen capture image.
This has been reported by a few users. I sent mine in for repair and got it back not repaired - they couldn't replicate the problem.
My case has been escalated which means a HTC guy called and asked me a few questions and then told me to wait for an email (a few days ago).
I believe my problem started when I seriously overheated it ... driving with navigation on, 3g downloading maps and traffic data, car charger plugged in all on a very hot day on a very hot dashboard. This was the first reboot and they got more and more often after that. Now I can't run anything for more than 5 minutes if 3G or wireless is on (in 'Airplane' mode I can run for quite a while without a reboot).
mine was doing the same thing.
getting progressively worse until the phone was basically unusable earlier this week.
I was running CM6 at first when it started happening.
installed the newest nightly and it worked better for a bit then got even worse.
uninstalled the stand alone version of gmail from the market and it worked for a couple hours and then kept rebooting on me.
finally i did a factory data/cache wipe and installed a rooted stock rom and things have been working PERFECT for over half a week.
I had the same issue. first reboot happen when i had nav running plunged in then after a few months utube , browser etc would restart my phone. it didn't matter which rom i used or stock. I sent it in and they fixed it. i had issues with htc but it got fixed.
Yup, same here, strange thing is it isn't a complete reboot. Hard to explain but what happens is i'll touch the phone and then it will immediatly go to the CM6 boot logo, then immediatly to the lock screen, (which I have disabled) then to my normal desktop. Total time elapsed maybe 5/6 seconds, wierd.
A normal reboot usually takes about say a minute or so. just started happening 3/4 days ago, and happens maybe twice a day at most, some days not at all. Probably wait until Cyanogen includes 2.2.1 into 6.0.0 stable then reflash.
Ive been having the same problem for about a week now, but I'm still using stock, not rooted. Its weird, because its a really fast reboot. It goes to the Booting X, for about 6 seconds, then it boot up just fine. I cant understand it.
this really sucks
I am keeping my ATT nexus one around for gingerbread but these random reboots are really killing me....I use the phone for five minutes and it just reboots by itself....The phone runs really well for those five minutes...Ive done five factory resets but it is still just doing these phantom reboots.... Anybody find out anything more about this...or know a fix....the phone is not rooted and it is clean stock froyo...so please help or keep talking about it so htc will address this issue lol which i doubt since this phone is starting to become ancient....(cant wait till nexus S) =P
With regards to the original problem posted, I believe I've managed to diagnose it correctly.
The problem lies with faulty heat distribution. The phone would crash and reboot more often in times of great stress:
charging the phone (heats up the battery)
running many applications at once (heavy system load)
navigation (heavy dataand gps traffic, image processing)
This coupled with the fact that changing the OS did nothing to remedy the problem solidified the notion that the problem was hardware based.
Given this, I contacted HTC Nexus One support and had the phone repaired.
Note: HTC will honor the warranty and fix hardware issues for an unlocked Nexus One. With software issues, you're on your own (for obvious reasons).
This is exactly what my phone is off to warranty for. I experienced this with every rom tried. I wipe my phone completely and put stock froyo on only to see the exact same behaviour...so at least I'm not crazy
The tech told me it was a hardware problem so that is a bit of a mind ease.
It seems Nexus One and Desire are really similar: HTC Desire rebooting on its own.
P.S. It's a problem with faulty motherboard, if you're within warranty, it should be replaced.
I also have been pleasantly experiencing this issue with the nexus one, so i sent it for repair at HTC and they have said it is an issue with the motherboard and it has been replaced, it is now in the post so I will update this post when I receive it to whether the problem is resolved. Hope so was driving me crazy!
The log did not capture the error. In most cases its a software issue, not hardware. (has happened to me too, not recently though)
Well an update as promised.
I received my N1 back after UPS had finished not dispatching it due to "Adverse weather conditions" and the issue is GONE!!! I know a week isn't really a long time to trial the device but this was happening several times a day.
HTC replaced the motherboard.
My advice to anyone having this problem, is to send it to HTC for repair (dont be worried about it being rooted/custom ROM etc mine was and because its a known hardware issue they really aren't bothered about it.)
It took two trips to HTC for them to finally address the issue. They did fix something (they didn't say what) and the problem is gone.
I believe it was the motherboard because Swype Beta decided that it was a new phone and not the one I registered (so it would not install).
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I have a fairly new Aria (about 3 months old). It has been rooted with Liberated ROM 3 & 4, and now the CM6 Froyo. Every since I rooted the phone it just randomly reboots, and sometimes it will get into a reboot loop until I pull the battery for a few minutes. The phone seems to run warm to the touch, and when I'm in the sun it seems to accelerate the problem. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Does anyone have any recommendations? I just find it hard to believe it is an over heating issue!
Thanks to everyone that donates their time HELPing out others!
I dont think its overheating .. i read this in the at & T and also htc website forum that its a hardware issue and customer service guys are offering replacements for such devices if you are under warranty .. I had one of my client devices which did the same .
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...SLCFCKdtw&sig2=F-AHLiyphr8Yu5jhH5cHSA&cad=rja
after i rooted it started rebooting about once a day randomly
***EDIT***
Well it would seem like my random reboots have gone away. Thanks to Tubgirl for the suggestion, but using Hastarin's 7.5R kernel with NO overclocking, AXI etc, it's finally stable once again.
In fact, I used that kernel with Darkstone's latest 3.2 build and the battery is crazy. I am getting approximately 7 hours of battery life for every 10% of the battery. That's with BT, data and all syncing turned on and basic use. That's around 3 days of life for a light user. Didn't even get that with winmo!
So for me - the moral of the story is stick to the clean, non overclocked kernels. As for speed, I cannot tell the difference (I don't play any games to be fair though).
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For some strange reason, my phone randomly reboots at completely bizarre intervals when running Android. I can't put my finger on what it might be. So some questions!
- Does anyone else experience this?
- I'm running VBN RC3 Minimal WM ROM, might it be this?
- I'm running the 2.14 Radio is it this?
- I'm running mostly Mdeejay builds could it be them (happens with all of the one's I've tried)?
- Is it likely to be piece of android software?
- Is there any way I can find a log to see why it's rebooted?
Random Reboots
I have been experiencing this problem for about a month now. I have tried numerous roms and android combinations, as well as changed radios. The problem still returns no matter what combination I try. So I'm kind of
Could be a problem with your battery. Try replacing it.
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
i had same problem.. what i did was fully drain my battery, than recharged it fully on off mode, with cable plugged in turned it on that charged again till i saw green LED light
since than it worked nicely no random boot
give it a shot id say
cheers
My HD2 has never done it, but my mates has.
He contacted HTC on Thursday and they are repairing it under warranty.
It is a well known issue that affected around 3000 handsets in the UK apparently. They call it the "heat related reboot", and it involves replacing the motherboard and another component.
His has gone back, they sent a courier to collect it..
Mine has been randomly rebooting for about 2 weeks now.
It usually happens once a day when running Winmo or Android. Sometimes when it reboots I get a rectangular box across the bottom of the screen for about a second. I dont know if this is caused by the Radio Rom update or it is just coincidence.
I have swapped the battery but it has made no difference.
It's driving me mad.
deadey3 said:
i had same problem.. what i did was fully drain my battery, than recharged it fully on off mode, with cable plugged in turned it on that charged again till i saw green LED light
since than it worked nicely no random boot
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Thank you I will try this first!
stratplayer said:
My HD2 has never done it, but my mates has.
He contacted HTC on Thursday and they are repairing it under warranty.
It is a well known issue that affected around 3000 handsets in the UK apparently. They call it the "heat related reboot", and it involves replacing the motherboard and another component.
His has gone back, they sent a courier to collect it..
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I have sent them an e-mail describing my issue, quoting you I will see what they say. Hopefully they will sort it soon because my first year of warranty expires in one month!
Oh also, if I send it back for warranty, I suppose I'll need to revert it back to the 02 defaults and remove all traces of HSPL! Is this possible?
i have this problem too, under android and wm. Still testing to find out hwats causing it but looks more and more a heat issue, eventhough it does not heat that much.
unfortunately dont have warranty so not sure what i can do.
when i have an audio or video stream, or navigator thats when it happens mostly. but i had random reboots as well for no reason.
is there something on WM we can use to find out whats making it reboot?
i get this issue every once in a while when i go to sleep and wake up and its booted up in windows? its happened about 2 or three times but doesn't happen every day.
Me too!
I'm also experiensing this. It started just when the whole android hd2 thing started. I have this problem no matter what radio/rom I'm using (except from stock). Reboots in win. Android gives SOD/reboots. I've tried some reasearching in to this and found out that when I flash back to original rom/radio it's stable. Between every flash i do Task29.
I've tried different memory cards and even swapped the battery with a collegue.
Still the same. Funny thing if it suddenly are many people experiensing this problem..
Could it have something to do with android experiments?
Bad thing is that it would be difficult to send it in for repair since it's working with original rom/radio.
You should all try to flash a stock radio and rom to see if it still reboots.. Mine don't..
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Oh also, if I send it back for warranty, I suppose I'll need to revert it back to the 02 defaults and remove all traces of HSPL! Is this possible?
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Yea there is way, google "how to remove HSPL" eventually it will bring u to xda thread and if ur not sure YouTube it there is heaps of floating around
jonboyuk said:
For some strange reason, my phone randomly reboots at completely bizarre intervals when running Android. I can't put my finger on what it might be. So some questions!
- Does anyone else experience this?
- I'm running VBN RC3 Minimal WM ROM, might it be this?
- I'm running the 2.14 Radio is it this?
- I'm running mostly Mdeejay builds could it be them (happens with all of the one's I've tried)?
- Is it likely to be piece of android software?
- Is there any way I can find a log to see why it's rebooted?
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I use the same VBN ROM but this build [build]20.09.10||JDMS 1.3|FRF91 Latest Stable Nightly||RC11 WITH AXIS! and Radio 2.12. I dont have any problem (reboot, sleep of dead, no robot voice...)
I switched to the latest hyperdroid v1.6 and have not had this problem yet although It did happen to me a lot when I was running different builds (cant remember which ones sry) Try switching builds and also make sure you turn everything off in WM like bsb tweaks and radio all that stuff. Its weird but it helps considering that everything gets turned off when u hit clrcad.exe anyways but it has helped the stability of my builds.
Alot of us seems to get these reebots in win also...
I wonder if it's got anything to do with the overclocking with setcpu? Hmmmm....
i had this exact same issue , bought phone of eBay so had no proof if purchase . phoned htc they said its 100% covered under warranty , they had it back for repair for 5 working days . they also replaced the external casing as it had a few chips from a drop , they pretty much returned a brand new phone apart from the serial number sticker tomtom no longer recognised the device id so i had to reactivate my maps , so they have at least replaced the mainboard . top customer service ! give them a ring its worth a try they can only say no
herukano said:
i had this exact same issue , bought phone of eBay so had no proof if purchase . phoned htc they said its 100% covered under warranty , they had it back for repair for 5 working days . they also replaced the external casing as it had a few chips from a drop , they pretty much returned a brand new phone apart from the serial number sticker tomtom no longer recognised the device id so i had to reactivate my maps , so they have at least replaced the mainboard . top customer service ! give them a ring its worth a try they can only say no
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nice is there a way to check warranty online? i also bought it from ebay? where you located?
i'm also experiencing this random reboot phenomenon.. happened only after i started experimenting with Android on my HD2.. now the reboot issue happens with WinMo as well.. i've been using the same radio, ROM and same builds..
btw, since jonboyuk mentioned it, i did play around with "setcpu".. could this be the culprit??
Hello..
I've noticed that my HD2 also reboots sometimes in Android. I haven't used WM for a long, so I really don't know if it also reboots in WM. My question is though, is this a hardware issue? Never had this sorts of reboots before starting this Android @ HD2 game. An answer (or just a thought) to this question, will help me, since I have to send my HD2 for a repair tomorrow, cause the microUSB slot is broke. But if the reboot issue is a hardware fault, then I should also report that, to the repair center.
Thanks.
Hello,
I have an LG E900 Optimus 7 brand TIM and I have some problems, that seems to be very common to Optimus 7 (I've got them before and after NoDo update):
The phone begin to have sound problems tipically while playing games (but not only with games). The sound stops playing and the framerate becomes very choppy and instable. Typically the streaming background music get stopped while sound effects continue playing. If you continue playing things become worse and framerate get something like seconds of pause every 2-4 sec (terrible!!!) and sounds stop playing completely. If I exit from games no more sound works, sometimes some seconds of music got played sometimes not, audio becomes very instable.
So I turn off (stanby) the phone but... in one second it wake up itself. So I press again power button, he rewake. No way. If I connect USB or power plug, the same. If I completely turn off the phone and power up, the same. If I power down, take out battery wait 15 minutes (to get colder?) and repower, the same!
In this situation the phone reboot itself at random times, while using it, if you use IE or other software or play it reboot even more frequently
After some time from this problems, the phone keep working ok. But at random times those problems comes togheter or not, it's a nightmare.
I've read in http://answers.microsoft.com/ that many people had those problems with LG Optimus 7 and the problems are resolved only by changing the internal electronic board. I think I'll go to LG service tuesday for this, but tipically it takes about 15 days whitout the phone...
Anyone with the same problems here? If you answer write all the version in Settings - > Informations -> Other informations (translated from Italian, I don't know the right words for international roms). Maybe we can find a common value... I see that my firmware is very old.
Here are my versions:
SO ver: 7.0.7390.0
Firmware ver: 1.0.1.10
Hardware rev: 1.0.0.0
radio sw ver: 1.0.1.10
radio hw ver: 0.3.5.0
bootloader ver: 1.5.0.0
SOC proc ver: 0.30.2.0
I just sent mine in for service for the same problem. I'll let you know what they change and if it fixes it.
Regards
Hi guys. I have the exact same problem.. please let me know if the service part worked.
Thx
andrei
Waiting for mine
Hi, I've also sent my device to service. I'm waiting for it, from LG repair status page I see it will arrive today to service collection point. I will test some days my device and post the result of service.
Hoping and waiting...
energywave said:
Hi, I've also sent my device to service. I'm waiting for it, from LG repair status page I see it will arrive today to service collection point. I will test some days my device and post the result of service.
Hoping and waiting...
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any news on this?
Service result
Hi, sorry I was waiting some time to see how is going after some time but I understand you want to know so I'll write about my phone now
The phone is perfectly working now. On service website I've read they done "firmware update and electronic repair" (translated from Italian)
Firware update... well I had NoDo and they flashed the first old WP7 version, I had to update to pre NoDo and then update again to NoDo. However that was not a problem, only some time required to do it with Zune.
The important thing that I can say after some use is that the phone don't have a issue now, I'm very happy.
No wake up from standby, no audio issues and no reboot
BUT... The issue I had didn't started from the first use... They came after some time (about 1 month) of use and they was getting worse and worse, so for saying that there aren't more issues we must wait some time to evaluate the stability in time.
Until now, all right!
Can you please update on your status on this? It's almost a month since your last post, so I wonder how is the situation now. I have this device for 2 days now and I am wondering how things are.
Status
Hi cybernouris, until now all seem right. No issues, I've played a lot with 3d intensive games to check the overheating problem and no single problem was found. In daily use no single problem, in fact I never turn off the device and after nearly one month there is absolutely no problem at all, and that leave me impressed.
I can say that now I'm very pleased with my device. It was a very good choice: cheaper than other devices but same hardware...
The next frustration is the waiting for "Mango" and all the new, sweet api it will contain.... but this is a completely different story...
If you want to know more don't hesitate to ask me.
Thanks for the reply
Your info is valuable. I have reflashed the phone with the europe open rom. everything seems the same as before. It rebooted once after some hour, right when i was in a game and with charger on.
The weird thing is that when this happens, i press n hold turn off button to close the phone, it closes and opens up again stuck at the lg screen.
The moment i unplugged the charger it showed the home screen in 5 seconds, without showing the windows phone boot screen.
Any chance this may be caused from the battery?
PS: I've just missed the telephone support from lg here in greece for 5 mins.. they said a tech guy will call me tomorrow to talk about my prob. Let's hope I will find something.
Graphic intensive games and battery charger what the two things that caused those ugly symtoms to me too. But it seems you have some more problems than me, that stuck lg screen for example. But I had too strange behaviours so it cannot be excluded that it could be the same root problem than mine.
You have no chance, however, you must send it to repair service... and after two weeks of trepidant waiting you'll be happy like me!
Best wishes
I'll see how things go from now on. Will see what they tell me on the phone too. I do not have a problem with sending it for a repair, but the phone is only 2 days old! And i dont want to wait for a long time, i need it for work
Anyway, thanks again for the replies energywave.
Regards.
You're welcome, I perfectly understand how you're feeling, I needet too for work. I was lucky that I've waited to sell my HTC Touch HD so I had a backup while repairing occured.
Good luck!
Energywave I feel the need to thank you as I feel that you brought me luck somehow
I did not wait for LG any more as I contacted them 5 times and I only got responses as "Our technician will call you back in 5 minutes" and I went back to the store I bought it.
I had them play with the phone, they got 3 reboots and they immediately gave me a new optimus 7
I updated it without a hitch and it works like a charm since then, and I've put it under some stress using the 3g connection with internet explorer, maps and marketplace for some hours.
Let me note this for anyone else reading this thread. My faulty device did not reboot at step 9/10 of NoDo Update. That is the last step where it says that the device reboots and when it gets to the home screen the update is finished. It just got stuck at the LG screen and I had to close it (by holding the power button) and wait for it to boot after some 5-6 tries...
My new device went through the updates flawlessly (I hope I spelled that right) and the battery lasted at least double time and with only being charged from critical low to around 75%, this charge being the very first one for the device!!!
It also charged alot faster and while I was using it too, installing apps from marketplace on WiFi.
That's my experience, I hope more people with problems find a solution because this device is worth of more appraise
Lastly, energywave, thanks for the kind attitude mate, it surely brought me luck
So I recently picked up an LG Optimus 7 here in Canada, its a Telus phone but it is unlocked and I am using it on Bell. Was working great for a couple of days, now tonight its started losing sound and rebooting like crazy...
After a quick google search I see this appears to be pretty common issue with this phone.. sigh. I bought it used so am I screwed? Will LG honor the warranty?
Hey cybernouris, sorry I've completely lost your message that I'm reading now (much late... ) I'm happy that you've resolved your issue, I know the "peace of mind" feeling you had when using your good working Optimus 7 Nothing to thank me about
Have a nice evening!
I've noticed that the sound always stops, when I have WiFi turned on.
Hi there,
I bought my Galaxy Note one month ago and in the first weeks I never had any problems with it, but recently it crashes more and more often. A week ago, while I was still on stock rom (unrooted), it crashed 5 times at one day. I did nothing that could be a problem for it, I was sketching (Autodesk SketchbookMobile), browsing, playing games etc.
I thought it may be the best to try a custom Rom, so I rooted my Note and flashed RocketRom v20. But soon after that the same problem appeared, and besides that, I needed after every crash more than 10 trys to successfully start the phone, somestimes it stuck at the "Samsung Galaxy Note" logo, sometimes it even accomplished it to get to the PIN-input, but crashed at it.
Yesterday I flashed RocketRom v21, but nothing changed.
The only thread about crashes I found in this forum says it may be because of S-Memo, but I barely use it, and never had problems while using it.
Right now I'm holding my Note in my Hand and try to start it, it's attempt 30 or so. I really love the Galaxy Note, but this makes it hard to use for me.
I appreciate every attempt to help me.
seems like manufacturing defect. If you are able to enter download mode, then flash Stock ROM which is latest for your region. then go for a replacement.
A few minutes ago I wasn't even able to get to downloadmode or to charge the phone, but after I plugged it in and out a few times I somehow managed it to get to download mode. I flashed the stock Rom, but the phone again stucked at the "Galaxy Note"-Logo the first two attempts to start it, now, again, it shows no reaction.
It seems like I have no other choice then to send it back
Sounds like a hardware defect with the internal NAND that might be accounting for the random freeze/reboots. Bad RAM can also do this.
Bad/ Corrupted sectors can do that. Lawl.
Also, list all apps that you've installde from the market. There might be some conflicting processes that's causing the phone to hang.
And first to be sur take your sdcard out, and test sometime bad/defective sdcard can also have dramatic effect.
It's already on it's way to Amazon.
I tried starting it without the sd-card, but that didn't help.
I hope it doesn't take too long, because i can't handle the tiny screen of my Samsung Wave anymore.
You are not the only one with this problem. Mine also started crashing/turning off randomly after approx 1 month of buying. Again on stock rom unrooted and very few apps installed.
Starting to think that just maybe samsung have tried to push the boat out too far by releasing this device. Don't get me wrong I love it (when it works) but it just seems too buggy atm. And I don't think ICS will cure all these problems we are all having. I know every device has a small percentage of faulty products but it seems that the note has a high percentage of those.
Sorry to be so negative but when you spend 600 euros on a phone you expect it to work for more than a month.
This happens only when I install any custom rom...the phone works fine with x720 5.8.018s version...anything apart from that device will shut down every 2-3 minutes ...very strange behaviour ...any one has any idea ?
any custom rom , android 6 or 7 , AOSP or stock based, it will boot fine and after initial setup , it will work for 3-4 minutes and then suddenly device shuts down. .. when i boot it up again , same thing happens, in one minute shuts down.
if i flash 5.8.018s stock rom , everything works fine....and it doesnt shut down...
After device bugs, my phone finally was restored into x720 stock ROM (i have x720). On boot it worked below 1 minute and reboots. I had to do clean data. Also booting x720 ROM into x727 is not too good idea. Maybe you should try to do more wipes?
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After device bugs, my phone finally was restored into x720 stock ROM (i have x720). On boot it worked below 1 minute and reboots. I had to do clean data. Also booting x720 ROM into x727 is not too good idea. Maybe you should try to do more wipes?
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I did all the wipes i could , cleaned all kinds of data... it was US version 5.8.018s originally and i tried to flash Omni ROm first , and other ROMS , all had same issues, so i thought going back to the stock US rom , but since US version of 018s is not available anywhere, i went to chinese version , and it works perfectly , no reboot/shutdown...... I have used number of phones and installed 100s of ROMS , i have never faced soemthing like this...i hve even used leeco pro 3 before, with all custom roms and no problems.
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I did all the wipes i could , cleaned all kinds of data... it was US version 5.8.018s originally and i tried to flash Omni ROm first , and other ROMS , all had same issues, so i thought going back to the stock US rom , but since US version of 018s is not available anywhere, i went to chinese version , and it works perfectly , no reboot/shutdown...... I have used number of phones and installed 100s of ROMS , i have never faced soemthing like this...i hve even used leeco pro 3 before, with all custom roms and no problems.
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Ok update...i downloaded x720 021S and 023S and updated using in build update option..(local update) , and it worked, 23S is working without any shut down...so i guess, it is problem only with roms flashed thru TWRP
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Ok update...i downloaded x720 021S and 023S and updated using in build update option..(local update) , and it worked, 23S is working without any shut down...so i guess, it is problem only with roms flashed thru TWRP
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Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
That all happens with several ROMs - currently I'm on ResurrectionRemix 5.8.5. This is the most stable custom rom I have tested, but anyways the phone switches off in irregular periods. Sometimes the phone is about a day alive, sometimes only a few hours, sometimes below an hour. When I'm playing HQ games I think the phones switches off much faster, but not sure.
I'm also not sure - I do not have used the stock rom really long after I get this phone (was CN 5.8.018s I think) - but my feeling is, that the phone was definetely more stable with the stock rom.
Now after finding this thread, I will give the stock rom another try. Would you be so kind as to describe the process of going to the stock 023S a bit more in detail? First flashing the 5.9.021S for the x720 ROM throught TWRP and after that using the build in update option (rename file to update.zip into root folder)?
Thanks!
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Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
That all happens with several ROMs - currently I'm on ResurrectionRemix 5.8.5. This is the most stable custom rom I have tested, but anyways the phone switches off in irregular periods. Sometimes the phone is about a day alive, sometimes only a few hours, sometimes below an hour. When I'm playing HQ games I think the phones switches off much faster, but not sure.
I'm also not sure - I do not have used the stock rom really long after I get this phone (was CN 5.8.018s I think) - but my feeling is, that the phone was definetely more stable with the stock rom.
Now after finding this thread, I will give the stock rom another try. Would you be so kind as to describe the process of going to the stock 023S a bit more in detail? First flashing the 5.9.021S for the x720 ROM throught TWRP and after that using the build in update option (rename file to update.zip into root folder)?
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On my equipment too !!
Andresdsr said:
On my equipment too !!
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You do not flash a 21s update twrp that may brick you.
You have to go stock and flash with stock recovery.
Their threads already on this.
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mchlbenner said:
You do not flash a 21s update twrp that may brick you.
You have to go stock and flash with stock recovery.
Their threads already on this.
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium
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it was the same with the ROM that came from the factory.
I experienced 21s and 23s beta Tars, 23s original Chinese...
Andresdsr said:
it was the same with the ROM that came from the factory.
I experienced 21s and 23s beta Tars, 23s original Chinese...
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Does anyone completely solved the shutting down issue on x720? I remember the same issue with the stock rom when i was getting the phone (5.8.018). but this rom could have been a shop rom, cant remember.
For me it seems that the issue happens more often whenever the phone uses more performance. Playing HQ games let the phone shut down after about 1-3min. doing nothing on the phone, it remains for about a day. Weird behaviour... will try to flash the stock recovery via fastboot and then a stock rom (no shop rom). hopefully it will improve the behaviour or even better solving the issue.
Sounds like a hardware issue. As for me, I have a couple of screen issues--I usually have my LeEco Pro3 Elite connected to a charger, and I sometimes don't use it for long stretches of time (say, 8 hours) because I have another phone as well. Once in a while, during those times the screen refuses to turn on. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner wakes it up, other times I have to straight up reboot the phone using the power button (I have to keep it pressed for two whole minutes for it to wake up the phone). Pretty annoying, dunno why it's happening. Could be a loose screen cable.
Now, if your phone is shutting down every few minutes no matter what, it could be a battery issue. I say this because I had a similar issue with an old iPod Color from 2005. The iPod would shut off every few minutes even when plugged into a charger. I changed the battery and it stopped shutting down.
Hopefully it's not a motherboard issue because replacing a phone's motherboard is never easy.
For me it seems that the issue happens more often whenever the phone uses more performance. Playing HQ games let the phone shut down after about 1-3min. doing nothing on the phone, it remains for about a day. Weird behaviour... will try to flash the stock recovery via fastboot and then a stock rom (no shop rom). hopefully it will improve the behaviour or even better solving the issue.
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I don't think gameplay should affect the phone negatively at all. Especially a phone with a Snapdragon 821, a 14nm processor with efficient cores, for crying out loud. I play Fate Grand Order, a pretty intense 2D online game with 1080p graphics for 5 hours straight on my LeEco Pro3 Elite (Snapdragon 820) without it heating up at all.
Again, seems like a hardware issue because no phone with a Snapdragon 821 or 820 should be doing that. Especially while gaming.
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Sounds like a hardware issue. As for me, I have a couple of screen issues--I usually have my LeEco Pro3 Elite connected to a charger, and I sometimes don't use it for long stretches of time (say, 8 hours) because I have another phone as well. Once in a while, during those times the screen refuses to turn on. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner wakes it up, other times I have to straight up reboot the phone using the power button (I have to keep it pressed for two whole minutes for it to wake up the phone). Pretty annoying, dunno why it's happening. Could be a loose screen cable.
Now, if your phone is shutting down every few minutes no matter what, it could be a battery issue. I say this because I had a similar issue with an old iPod Color from 2005. The iPod would shut off every few minutes even when plugged into a charger. I changed the battery and it stopped shutting down.
Hopefully it's not a motherboard issue because replacing a phone's motherboard is never easy.
I don't think gameplay should affect the phone negatively at all. Especially a phone with a Snapdragon 821, a 14nm processor with efficient cores, for crying out loud. I play Fate Grand Order, a pretty intense 2D online game with 1080p graphics for 5 hours straight on my LeEco Pro3 Elite (Snapdragon 820) without it heating up at all.
Again, seems like a hardware issue because no phone with a Snapdragon 821 or 820 should be doing that. Especially while gaming.
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Thanks for the information.
Could be possible... If I'm shaking the phone like a cocktail-mixer, it feels something loose inside it and this could be the battery of course which could be not fixed correctly. But I am sure, that this issue has also something to do what is happening on the phone currently. Sometimes I am going to bed and the phone does not move for 8hrs, it simply lays on the table. In the morning, it is shutted down. Need to hold the power button for about 10sec to restart the phone (usually hold 2sec to power on). Sometimes (not really often) it warm-starts automatically.
I think this could be also a memory issue or internal storage. Yesterday I was playing a game (Bowling by Jason Belmonte) and after 3min, the phone hung up, display remains on, no reaction on pressing the hardware buttons, waiting 5min... nothing happens. So I pressed the power button 10sec, phone seems to reboot normally, but it take a bit more time in my oppinion. Now after entering the pin, some phone configurations were resetted to default, but not all. Playing this came, it sometimes happened, that the phone switches off (with one vibration). Rebooting with a 10sec press and it runs again normally. This time phone hung up and some configurations were resetted to default. WTF?
Today I have played Hmmsim 2. Phone hung up again, pressing the power button 10sec, phone begins to reboot, but rebooting never finished (waiting for about 1-2hrs). Long Press power button (10sec) to try to reboot again - same behaviour, never ending ROM loading screen. Wiped to factory via TWRP and the phone reboots again, but all configurations lost, like freshly installed rom. OK, whatever, using the google backup for apps and so on... when installing the apps in the background, the phone reboots about 3-4 times, app installations not finished. Cancelled and shutting the phone down to TWRP, where I am now...
What I will try to say is, that whenever the storage or memory is used to much or something like that, the phone begins with that behaviour.
And now I am thining about what to try next. I think I will try to flash the stock recovery via TOOL ALL IN ONE then flashing a stock rom like 5.9.023S.
I am still not sure of a hardware issue...
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I am still not sure of a hardware issue...
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The easiest way to tell is if the issues were occurring before you flashed TWRP. Were they? This is why you always wait a couple of months before modding your device. Otherwise you'll be stuck in a loop of doubts. By this I mean you'll be convinced that the issue has to do with your custom ROM or kernel rather than your device's hardware, but you have no way of knowing for sure because you never used the phone enough on stock firmware.
I was like you... my unmodified Zenfone 3 had a screen flicker issue and a headphone jack issue that I was convinced was a Nougat problem. I upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat immediately after getting the phone. After a lot of research and posting threads on the Zenfone forums, I realized I had a hardware issue on my hands. The screen had to be replaced for the flickering to stop, and the headphone jack had been gimped to 0.3v by ASUS for some reason. I quickly sold the phone and got my LeEco.
Here's a thread I made on XDA about my screen flickering issue. It's a hardware issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/ze552kl-screen-flickering-lowest-t3660643
I've learned some important things from that experience: it's easy for your brain to trick you into thinking you've got an easy-to-solve software issue on your hands, when in reality you've got a hardware issue. You need to start making arrangements for a replacement device and get video evidence of your problems to show to the seller ASAP. Because that behaviour isn't normal. Now I hope you do have a software issue on your hands that the stock firmware will solve, but who knows. Be prepared for anything.
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The easiest way to tell is if the issues were occurring before you flashed TWRP. Were they? This is why you always wait a couple of months before modding your device. Otherwise you'll be stuck in a loop of doubts. By this I mean you'll be convinced that the issue has to do with your custom ROM or kernel rather than your device's hardware, but you have no way of knowing for sure because you never used the phone enough on stock firmware.
I was like you... my unmodified Zenfone 3 had a screen flicker issue and a headphone jack issue that I was convinced was a Nougat problem. I upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat immediately after getting the phone. After a lot of research and posting threads on the Zenfone forums, I realized I had a hardware issue on my hands. The screen had to be replaced for the flickering to stop, and the headphone jack had been gimped to 0.3v by ASUS for some reason. I quickly sold the phone and got my LeEco.
Here's a thread I made on XDA about my screen flickering issue. It's a hardware issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/ze552kl-screen-flickering-lowest-t3660643
I've learned some important things from that experience: it's easy for your brain to trick you into thinking you've got an easy-to-solve software issue on your hands, when in reality you've got a hardware issue. You need to start making arrangements for a replacement device and get video evidence of your problems to show to the seller ASAP. Because that behaviour isn't normal. Now I hope you do have a software issue on your hands that the stock firmware will solve, but who knows. Be prepared for anything.
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Thank you very much!
I am sure that the phone was doing the same on stock rom, but maybe fewer times. I have flashed a stock based rom now (Turbos mini 5.9.023s) and the issue still exists, but now the phone reboots normally more often than going into edl mode (emergency mode). I have found an old thread here on XDA and the issues described there sounds nearly the same. Finally the user in this thread also had hardware issue.
I believe also in a hardware issue, but I am still not sure. If I am looking to other threads regarding similar problems, there is always some regularity in the behaviour or the reported issues. In my case these rebootings (usual reboot or reboot to EDL mode) are definetely very unregular. On the TURBO Rom, these reboots happen definetely more often when the display is off and the phone sleeps. On the TURBO Rom, playing games seems to be helping lasting the phone a bit longer, the completely differnce to ResurrectionRemix Rom, where the phone was lasting longer when doing preferabely nothing. The issues are so inconsistant and this is making it hard to believe, that this is a hardware issue. Why the hell is the phone behaving different on every ROM - if it's a hardware issue, the occurred problems should have some regularity.
As I didn't have an OTA update option on the stock rom, I'd found out that this could be a "shop rom" (5.8.018), which is not the best choice nor for the first month(s).
I'm from Germany and I do not really want to return the phone to china or east asia for repairing (bought at banggood). This could take a very very long time. Changing to a new one could be also difficult because there are hardly any more devices out on the market and I need to return it for the change too.
But I am slowly at my wit's end and before these issues are making me more and more crazy, I will accept a problem with the hardware.
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I believe also in a hardware issue, but I am still not sure. If I am looking to other threads regarding similar problems, there is always some regularity in the behaviour or the reported issues. In my case these rebootings (usual reboot or reboot to EDL mode) are definetely very unregular. On the TURBO Rom, these reboots happen definetely more often when the display is off and the phone sleeps. On the TURBO Rom, playing games seems to be helping lasting the phone a bit longer, the completely differnce to ResurrectionRemix Rom, where the phone was lasting longer when doing preferabely nothing. The issues are so inconsistant and this is making it hard to believe, that this is a hardware issue. Why the hell is the phone behaving different on every ROM - if it's a hardware issue, the occurred problems should have some regularity.
As I didn't have an OTA update option on the stock rom, I'd found out that this could be a "shop rom" (5.8.018), which is not the best choice nor for the first month(s).
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
I'm from Germany and I do not really want to return the phone to china or east asia for repairing (bought at banggood). This could take a very very long time. Changing to a new one could be also difficult because there are hardly any more devices out on the market and I need to return it for the change too.
But I am slowly at my wit's end and before these issues are making me more and more crazy, I will accept a problem with the hardware.
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Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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Admittedly I'm not sure at all if this issue was already present after starting the phone for the first time. One of the first things I have done during the initial setup wizard was using the integrated data transfer app by LeEco (scanning a QR code with the old Xperia Z, downloading app to transfer data to the x720). This app establishes a Wifi direct connection between both phones to transfer the data like apps and other stuff. This transfer process takes at least 6-7 hours and during that process I am sure that the phone was not rebooting a single time. Maybe a specific app or background process of an app causes this irregular rebootings. I have not testet this. I have installed the most common of my apps also using different custom ROMs later.
On the current ROM (Turbos mini 5.19.023s) I have now looked into the last_kmsg.log file severel times after the phone was hard-rebooting (not to emergency mode - the phone is switching down to emergence mode really rarely since I have flashed the stock based ROM) to debug for a kernel problem and the power off reason seems to be ""Triggered from PS_HOLD (PS_HOLD/MSM controlled shutdown)". In the log file I could also find some "kernel panic" entries. So I have a little gleam of hope that the issue is not a hardware problem. I have to test a bit more with the stock recovery/ROMto gain a better knowledge of the issue. I think I will post this into the ROM topic to ask a developer.
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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Finally - I got it working without any problems now!
Happily it seems to be not a hardware issue. I have flashed the Grossoshop ROM and Recovery via a provided .bat file. This .bat file has flashed the recovery first via fastboot, then the ROM via fastboot. This Grossoshop ROM was based on 5.8.018s I think. Then I have updated TWRP Recovery to the latest version via TWRP itself (flashed the new image). Then I have flashed Mauro's 2.2 (which is based on 5.9.023s) and it is running great! Super performance, no extrem battery drain, no reboots, all is working (except the chinese design downloads as I cannot create a Leeco account from Germany). But now I'm satisfied. :good::laugh:
peed_neslo said:
Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
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My x720 has done the same to me a couple of times now, Vibrates once and turns off and I have to hold the power button for a few seconds longer to turn it back on again which is odd.
The battery was charged over 50% % 70% at the times it happened and I wasn't even using the phone, It was just sat on the table in front of me.
I didn't have any problems at all until a few days ago when it first shut down.
I'm using Oreo - AICP 13.1 from here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-aicp-13-0-pro3-aka-zl1-x727-x720-t3698058
The problem now is I don't know where to start troubleshooting When I get time I am planning on a clean wipe and fresh install of AICP again to see if that solves the problem
When using this ROM does your phone heat up a lot.
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Did you manage to fix the problem somehow?