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euro hero on telus problem!

so, i tried my mothers rogers sim card and my EURO hero works fine. I could not get my newly activated telus sim card to work in my hero though, it has the right bands, there site says it should work too!
does anyone else have a euro hero on telus?
how did you get it working!?
I appreciate any and all help! thank you!
ps i had a rooted hero with modaco 2.9 and my own theme.. but i thought updating to the latest ruu from htc would fix it but apparently it didnt!
also when i go into menu - settings-wireless controls-mobile network settings-network operators-search networks... i only get rogers wireless and no telus.. so i went driving (passsenger seat lol) to see if i just wasnt getting reception... but no matter where i went i did not get service...
also i called telus and they said there network is fine and that my sim card is activated..
my phone has popped up a few times "telus : temp. me error" or something like that too

urghh, i bought an unlocked phone... but i never tried a sim card till after i updated to the newest ruu from htc... maybe its not totally unlocked?
although it works on rogers! but arnt they roaming partners? maybe thats why it works on rogers?
idk im pretty sure bell has the new network too, and they dont show up on my phone either:\
please helpp!

k now i have used flash rec to get the recovery image, installed t-mobile image because the telus check to see if my phone will work said it was from there even though it was "unbranded and unlocked" but when i pop my telus sim there is nothing saying that the network is locked or anything :s
urgh i will try a replacement sim tomorrow hopefully!
still would appreciate any info anyone has!

Does anyone have the europen hero on TELUS or bell?

xsirhc6x said:
Does anyone have the europen hero on TELUS or bell?
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but unfortunately the Euro HTC Hero will not work on Telus or Bell. Telus and Bell's new HSPA networks only work with phones that can support HSPA 850/1900. The North American HTC Hero (sold by Telus) has these bands. The Euro HTC Hero only supports HSPA 900/2100 (i.e. any 3G networks outside of North America). The reason you can see Rogers is because Rogers has GSM support (the Euro HTC Hero can only work on GSM networks in Canada - Rogers or Fido only).
I wish I had better news, but I'm afraid you'll need to purchase a North American HTC Hero (if you wish to use Bell or Telus' HSPA network), or alternatively, another cell phone that supports HSPA 850/1900.

but i read from htc site
HSPA/WCDMA:
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900/2100 MHz
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Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
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850/900/1800/1900 MHz
and telus site
Runs on 1900/850 MHz frequency bands and uses standard 3GPP SIM cards
so techinically i just cant get 3g, but i cant even get voice/text working
and im on pay as you go anyways

wait so your saying telus doesnt have anything but hspa and 3g going to their sim cards?
there website even says my phone is compatible! (after referencing my imei!)
it has to woork! i dont wanna use rogers.. even though thats who i originally planned on using before knowing telus was getting this network

It wont work.
timmacnaughton is right.
The euro Hero only has 2100 HSPA bands, which are not used in North America, Bellus uses 850/1900 (same as Rogers) for the HSPA network, however, the reason your phone is working on Rogers is because its on Edge (2G). Bellus doesnt have 2G to fallback on, only a 3G network.
2G bands are considered world frequencies, anywhere you go, if the carrier is GSM your phone will work with 2G, they use different bands but GSM phone are all quad-band 2G ready
So in all in all.. the european Hero will work on Rogers but Edge only and wont work at all on Bellus (Bell & Telus)
The best way to know if another device will work on Bellus, if you come from Rogers is just to see if you can use 3G on it. If your device cannot use 3G on Rogers, it wont work on Bellus.

ohh thats wierd, i thought telus was doing this because of the olympics, and if most people work on 2100, then they wont be able to use telus in which case they wont get the traffic from the olypmics :s

Lol, no.
Roaming contracts have been signed and delt with for a long time. Besides, Bellus's network cant even be used by a euro phone so yeah.
Anything that is roaming GSM will be on Rogers. even US phones, AT&T has a contract with Rogers for roaming.. in fact every GSM carrier has a contract with Rogers, they own roaming in canada for GSM. bling bling?!

[Q] Bell Samsung Galaxy S in Europe

Hi everybody.
I'm currently in Canada, but I'm from Europe. I noticed Bell is offering Samsung Galaxy S for only 500 CAD without contract (thats 380 euros) which is not much, and I'm really tempted to buy it. The trouble is Bell is CDMA carrier, and europe is GSM. Bells site claims that Galaxy S is "Global Phone" which should mean that it supports european GSM frequences (I Guess). Does anybody know anything about this ? Would this phone work ok in Europe? Would I be able to use GPRS/EDGE/UMTS data connections in Europe?

I was surprised at first but the Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant from Bell is actually a GSM phone!
I'm reading straight from the box:
EDGE / GPRS / GSM Quad band AND HSPA Tri band (850/1900/2100).
So it rocks in Canada and Europe! On 3G and 2G!
I got mine from Best Buy for $560 (including taxes, still a good deal compared to Europe I think).
And now using a Fido monthly plan without contract ^^
Love it !
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I recon you would get the best answer by asking a sales person in the store.
maybe even get it in writing incase it turns out to be bull****, so you can get a refund by shipping it back or something

3G runs on 850/1900/2100
you might only get the 1900 if you live in Europe
so it will be mostly 2G unless you are in good ares with 1900 signal to get 3G
defufna said:
Hi everybody.
I'm currently in Canada, but I'm from Europe. I noticed Bell is offering Samsung Galaxy S for only 500 CAD without contract (thats 380 euros) which is not much, and I'm really tempted to buy it. The trouble is Bell is CDMA carrier, and europe is GSM. Bells site claims that Galaxy S is "Global Phone" which should mean that it supports european GSM frequences (I Guess). Does anybody know anything about this ? Would this phone work ok in Europe? Would I be able to use GPRS/EDGE/UMTS data connections in Europe?
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If your really tricky, you will discover that the bell i9000m is actually a QUAD band gsm/wcdma phone.
850/900/1900/2100 WCDMA, and 850/900/1800/1900 GSM
The extra frequencies have to be enabled in the service menu though. (does not require root)

USA AT&T Galaxy Tab questions answered here

I created this thread because there seems to be some confusion as to the differences between the T-Mobile, Euro, and (soon to arrive) AT&T branded versions of the Galaxy Tab. I'm sure at some point enough information will exist for a proper XDA wiki entry, but for now, we need a thread for each variant with specs, and where possible, hack/flash options, including phone and data connections.
So this will be the US AT&T thread, where we can get the facts straight for those who wish to use AT&T as their carrier with a Galaxy Tab.
THIS THREAD IS FOR US AT&T GSM ONLY, DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CDMA (SPRINT, VERIZON, ETC) SHOULD BE IN ANOTHER THREAD!
Other carrier-specific threads:
US Tmobile Galaxy Tab flashed to make phone calls (currently phone works only, no 3G data)
(I would suggest to moderators that other non-AT&T and CDMA-related posts be removed or moved to a more appropriate thread.)
Alright, for starters, let me post the US AT&T frequency information, so that n00bs can be up to speed.
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA 3G
This should be helpful when we discuss the Galaxy Tab specs. I will be re-editing this post as new information comes in.
[future verified information can be placed here]

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Actually, the SGH-I987 version that AT&T is getting has already launched. In Canada. On two carriers.
The Bell version has two model numbers on the back, the GT-P1000M (firmware is different, and presumably less crippled than what AT&T will release, hello sideloading), and the FCC model number of SGH-I987 on the back cover, so the internals are identical to the AT&T unit.
And you missed a few bands, any Galaxy Tab with a SIM card will work on 2100 UMTS as well as 900 and 2100 GSM/GPRS/EDGE.

AT&T should be releasing their branded version of the Galaxy Tab on the 21st (just a few days from this posting). If I understand right (this is where the value of this thread will come into play), the specs for the T-Mobile version are different in terms of the 3G radio frequencies.
IF this is true, then it would mean that if you plan to use AT&T as your US carrier:
You must run an AT&T branded Galaxy Tab
You must run a Euro-spec Galaxy Tab*
*specific procedure for this to work is unverified at this time
Price
At this time, the price for an AT&T branded Galaxy Tab will be $650 from AT&T. It will have two pay as you go plans--$14.99 for 30 days and up to 250MB of storage or $25 for 30 days of up to 2GB. This is similar to how they currently handle the iPad plans.
HOWEVER, as many people here on XDA-devs know, it has always been possible to take a GSM SIM and move from phone to phone, and provided that the frequencies are compatible, the services should carry over and the device change remains largely in the control of the owner. Of course, they can detect the IMEI at the carrier, but in most cases they are not blocking IMEI's. If your device has the right radios and frequencies, it should work. In the past, this has been the case with most devices.
So the question is: Does the Euro-spec Galaxy Tab have the same frequencies as the AT&T branded Galaxy Tab? It should, considering that the specs for the Euro version seem to reflect the same frequencies that AT&T uses.
In theory, getting the software right on the Euro-spec Galaxy Tab should be a matter of flashing a working cooked ROM to enable phone and 3G connectivity.
As of the time of this post, one or two people have managed to get a Galaxy Tab phone service working with AT&T, although I am unsure about 3G.
Again, the purpose of this thread is to clear up these questions, and keep it focused on getting a fully-functional Galaxy Tab on the AT&T carrier. Meaning both phone and 3G working as normal with any other device.

I can confirm that the European Tab works fine on at&t with full 3G and Voice dialing.
It is model GT-P1000
FCC ID: A3LGTP1000
I have been using it for the past few weeks and it seems to support all the required frequencies. It has operated in every mode including (G)PRS, (E)DGE, (3G) and (H)SPA

Stupid question then. Doesn't Canadian Rogers use the same frequencies as AT&T?
They sell Galaxy Tab too right? Does their Galaxy Tab have voice call capability?
I am interested in buying Galaxy Tab that could do 3G on AT&T and can make voice calls so I could use it as my phone ;-)

Technomancer said:
Stupid question then. Doesn't Canadian Rogers use the same frequencies as AT&T?
They sell Galaxy Tab too right? Does their Galaxy Tab have voice call capability?
I am interested in buying Galaxy Tab that could do 3G on AT&T and can make voice calls so I could use it as my phone ;-)
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No voice calling on any of the North American Tabs. The Rogers and Bell units are the same units AT&T will be getting next week.

Can someone post att apn settings

feisley said:
I can confirm that the European Tab works fine on at&t with full 3G and Voice dialing.
It is model GT-P1000
FCC ID: A3LGTP1000
I have been using it for the past few weeks and it seems to support all the required frequencies. It has operated in every mode including (G)PRS, (E)DGE, (3G) and (H)SPA
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However, keep in mond, the EUR does NOT support the 850 3G band, only 1900.

Croak said:
Actually, the SGH-I987 version that AT&T is getting has already launched. In Canada. On two carriers.
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Not to be mistaken with SGH-I897, which is an Eclair (Android 2.1) -based device as far as I can tell:
http://opensource.samsung.com/ ("mobile" section)

shollywood said:
However, keep in mond, the EUR does NOT support the 850 3G band, only 1900.
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feisley said:
I can confirm that the European Tab works fine on at&t with full 3G and Voice dialing.
It is model GT-P1000
FCC ID: A3LGTP1000
I have been using it for the past few weeks and it seems to support all the required frequencies. It has operated in every mode including (G)PRS, (E)DGE, (3G) and (H)SPA
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Interesting news... I bought an unlocked device in Kuwait City and it matches that FCC id number, but it had some Arabic apps loaded onto it, does this mean the euro and middle east versions are the same?
Also, how much of AT&T's network is is 850?? I didnt think the 3G would work back in the states... btw, my home is in the DC area is that helps.. Thanks!

the FCC says the GT-P1000 models support 850 3G
shollywood said:
However, keep in mond, the EUR does NOT support the 850 3G band, only 1900.
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The FCC docs actually say that the GT-P1000L, N, T models do support 850GSM and 850WCDMA(3G):
Type the device's FCC ID info in, (A3L is the manufacturer code for Samsung). Look at the documents in the 824.20 (GSM "850") and 826.40 (WCDMA "850") lower frequency ranges.
The actual test report docs list GT-P1000L and GT-P1000N and a clarification doc from Samsung says the GT-P1000T model is just a renamed L one.

This is great, it's exactly why I wanted to start this thread. SO, one person at least has a Euro-spec (GT-P1000) machine wortking with voice and 3G data on a US AT&T network.
Someone needs to post specs on the GT-P1000. Because right now, it would seem that the P1000 is the best bet for those who want to use FULL functionality on a US AT&T network.
My personal motivation for this thread is to get solid information on what model Galaxy Tab will have full US AT&T functionality (voice and good 3G data connect), and HOW to achieve that (choosing the right Galaxy Tab and flashing the right ROM). Once this is nailed down, I'll buy one. I just need to know which to buy and what to do to it.

Suleeto said:
This is great, it's exactly why I wanted to start this thread. SO, one person at least has a Euro-spec (GT-P1000) machine wortking with voice and 3G data on a US AT&T network.
Someone needs to post specs on the GT-P1000. Because right now, it would seem that the P1000 is the best bet for those who want to use FULL functionality on a US AT&T network.
My personal motivation for this thread is to get solid information on what model Galaxy Tab will have full US AT&T functionality (voice and good 3G data connect), and HOW to achieve that (choosing the right Galaxy Tab and flashing the right ROM). Once this is nailed down, I'll buy one. I just need to know which to buy and what to do to it.
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Not FULLY working on at&t's 3g network. The 850 band for 3g is still missing and 850 is their primary 3g band and it's slowly replacing the 1900 3g band. The reason they changed was because the 850 3g band can cut thru walls better and give you a better 3g signal. I remember when my area had only 1900. My 3g sucked. Very spotty unless I was outside. I instantly noticed when the 850 upgrade took place. Solid 3g even in the darkest areas of my basement @ work. There will be an unlocked 850/1900 3g band version on the tab but it looks like it was pushed off until early 2011. Probably because they knew they would never sell any of the current north american models with the 850/1900 3g bands (bell, rogers & at&t) For what it's worth, you can pre-order that version here:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929

Raspster said:
Not FULLY working on at&t's 3g network. The 850 band for 3g is still missing and 850 is their primary 3g band and it's slowly replacing the 1900 3g band. The reason they changed was because the 850 3g band can cut thru walls better and give you a better 3g signal. I remember when my area had only 1900. My 3g sucked. Very spotty unless I was outside. I instantly noticed when the 850 upgrade took place. Solid 3g even in the darkest areas of my basement @ work. There will be an unlocked 850/1900 3g band version on the tab but it looks like it was pushed off until early 2011. Probably because they knew they would never sell any of the current north american models with the 850/1900 3g bands (bell, rogers & at&t) For what it's worth, you can pre-order that version here:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=26929
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Who said at&t's primary 3G is 850Mhz?
That is just false information.
Their primary is actually 1900Mhz and they are beefing it up with new 850Mhz towers, not instead of current 1900Mhz existing in infrastructure.
Places who only recently got 3G service might be on 850Mhz but all those who got 3G up until 2 years ago are all 1900Mhz with the addition of 850Mhz.

clubtech said:
Who said at&t's primary 3G is 850Mhz?
That is just false information.
Their primary is actually 1900Mhz and they are beefing it up with new 850Mhz towers, not instead of current 1900Mhz existing in infrastructure.
Places who only recently got 3G service might be on 850Mhz but all those who got 3G up until 2 years ago are all 1900Mhz with the addition of 850Mhz.
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I need to find the artical that says they are slowly changing over the entire 3g network to the 850 band. Stay tuned.
UPDATED: Read on
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010/

Raspster said:
I need to find the artical that says they are slowly changing over the entire 3g network to the 850 band. Stay tuned.
UPDATED: Read on
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/02/24/att-3g-network-going-850mhz-nationwide-by-2010/
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Yea this article and all the others stating the same are copying the same wrong source.
At&t never said they will be replacing 1900mhz with 850mhz...they said they will be ADDING towers and expending their network on 850mhz.
Here in the sf bay area the netwrok is mainly 1900mhz but they are ADDING new 850mhz towers so now we get mixed frequencies in places where signal was bad. They are certainly not removing 1900mhz towers.
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This thread encapsulates my concerns exactly. I want to use my tab as a phone, and am on ATT, so will wait to see how to best implement this agenda before purchasing anything. I have a couple of concerns:
1) I think that the Galaxy Tab forum should be split amongst various carriers, since future roms and such will likely be device specific.
2) Now that more information is coming out with regards to the Nexus s and Galaxy 2, I am wondering whether I should hold out. I do want a large screen, but the development community/google support for the next Nexus phone is hard to pass up... maybe I will buy both!

Regarding splitting up the forums, I don't think that's a good idea. We tried it for the Galaxy S models and it is something of a clusterfuck, and not as much knowledge is being shared IMHO.
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[Q] Can I change what frequency my G2 Uses for data?

Question for the collective wisdom of the group:
I bought an unlocked T-Mobile HTC G2 off of ebay thinking it was the same as a regular Desire Z. Phone is great, but 3G does not work in my home country (Honduras). Is there anyway to change the data frequency on the phone?
Thanks in advance
AE

loaferoatan said:
Question for the collective wisdom of the group:
I bought an unlocked T-Mobile HTC G2 off of ebay thinking it was the same as a regular Desire Z. Phone is great, but 3G does not work in my home country (Honduras). Is there anyway to change the data frequency on the phone?
Thanks in advance
AE
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No, not possible.
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NAM version of Desire Z
Someone told me that I need the NAM Desire Z (850mhz) to be able to use with my local network...Am i really stuck with Edge with my T-mobile G2?

loaferoatan said:
Someone told me that I need the NAM Desire Z (850mhz) to be able to use with my local network...Am i really stuck with Edge with my T-mobile G2?
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Yes. The G2 and the DZ use different bands for data, so you will not be able to get 3G or 4G from it.

loaferoatan said:
Someone told me that I need the NAM Desire Z (850mhz) to be able to use with my local network...Am i really stuck with Edge with my T-mobile G2?
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Unfortunatly yes, you are stuck if you keep the G2, best bet sell it an get a HTC A7275 Desire Z NAM, this model supports (850mhz). This is the only model Desire Z that supports this frequency. It has to ba a A7275 model. Bell Canada sell this model and some other online electrionc vendors.

There are AT LEAST THREE different variations on the VISION hardware, supporting different frequency sets. The AWS version debranded by tmobile, is capable of upload on 1700 (used in US and Canada) or 1900 (used in Europe) MHz, download on 2100.

For info, since this comes up a lot, I have updated the Wiki with the information about which radio bands are supported by which Vision model - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Radio_Bands

As other have indicated, you are stuck on EDGE. The MHz compatibility is a function of the hardware, and therefore can't be changed. Always research the heck out of the device before buying anything that is unlocked or otherwise not from your carrier.

If your wireless provider uses "standard" north american frequencies like AT&T USA, Bell Mobility Canada, and Rogers Wireless Canada, you need the Desire Z p/n: 99HLW020. Phones that are p/n: 99HLW021 are T-Mobile USA only.

halfinn said:
If your wireless provider uses "standard" north american frequencies like AT&T USA, Bell Mobility Canada, and Rogers Wireless Canada, you need the Desire Z p/n: 99HLW020. Phones that are p/n: 99HLW021 are T-Mobile USA only.
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"Standard"? It would help if there was such a thing. In most of Europe and in Japan, they only use one network type and frequency (instead of mish-moshing GSM and CDMA and different frequencies). As long as your phone is SIM unlocked, you can use your device on any carrier. That's how it should be.

halfinn said:
If your wireless provider uses "standard" north american frequencies like AT&T USA, Bell Mobility Canada, and Rogers Wireless Canada, you need the Desire Z p/n: 99HLW020. Phones that are p/n: 99HLW021 are T-Mobile USA only.
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How do those 3 together make it standard? There are 3 providers using UMTS on GSM and PCS (which you've listed), there are more than 3 using AWS.... tmobile, globalive, mobilicity, and videotron running now... and more coming soon... as well, ALL of the providers you've mentioned OWN AWS spectrum, and at least ATT is apparently planning on using it.... (robelus just bought a bunch of it up to block out competition... the bastards.)
So seems to me that AWS is more "standard" than GSM or PCS spectrum.

dhkr123 said:
How do those 3 together make it standard? There are 3 providers using UMTS on GSM and PCS (which you've listed), there are more than 3 using AWS.... tmobile, globalive, mobilicity, and videotron running now... and more coming soon... as well, ALL of the providers you've mentioned OWN AWS spectrum, and at least ATT is apparently planning on using it.... (robelus just bought a bunch of it up to block out competition... the bastards.)
So seems to me that AWS is more "standard" than GSM or PCS spectrum.
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Yeah, I don't know if calling it the standard for North American frequencies is completely right (though I believe in terms of numbers of users/towers instead of number of providers, it actually might be but I'd have to go research to be sure---most manufactures refer to their North American versions of phones as using these frequencies as well). I would say however, it is pretty much the standard for the Americas. Almost all of Central and South American use 850/1900 as well. AWS is limited to only the the US and Canada (I believe).

Using unlocked Tmobile phone in Canada?

Does any one know if I can use the tmobile G2 with a canadian wireless plan if its unlocked. I have read about all that tri band stuff but its a little above my head.
Thanks!

T-mobile does not have the same 3G/4G bands as Canadian carriers (Bell, Rogers, etc)
You will only get EDGE. If you want 3G/4G go with an unlocked AT&T phone.

and if ive read correctly, you need to go to a carrier that uses gsm (because tmobile phones use gsm)

Umm, not sure what only getting edge means. Does that just mean no data, just voice and texts?

dwang93 said:
Umm, not sure what only getting edge means. Does that just mean no data, just voice and texts?
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As of 2011 there are three levels of data speed that are used and the order goes like this:
4G
3G
EDGE
The speed decreases as you go from 4G to 3G, and EDGE being the slowest.
You will receive data, just not at blazing fast speeds.

From what I understand, T-Mobile uses AWS, of which three carriers here provide: Mobilicity, Wind Mobile, and Videotron.
It's not worth trying to get what EDGE you can from Rogers/Telus/Bell.
* Ontario biased *

I would recommend to get an unlocked ATT phone

So after some research, the G2 is a quad band gsm phone, which means it should work on any GSM based carrier. From what I've seen that would be mainly rogers and fido correct? Or are there cheaper alternatives?
Also I looked into the AWS but I'm not sure if my g2 is compatible with AWS. It seems as if tmobile uses both. Does that mean my phone is compatible with GSM and AWS? I'm wondering if you could confirm this Ariel?
Also I will be in the montreal area.

Yes. It will work but the G2 doesn't have the same 3G bands as Rogers. That means you'll only get EDGE which, by personal experience, sucks. I'm not sure about Fido, though.

k, what about an aws service like videotron? That should work as well correct?