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Hello,
I am extremely fascinated with these two new phones by htc but i can't decide which one to buy. I have been watching videos all over the internet and reading the reviews from the MWC and other hands-on from many sites and still i am in dilemma. I LOVE the design of the legend but i want the power of Desire.
The reason i have this thread here is if anyone can tell me what are the differences between the two phones.
First of all i know the differences below, so if they are the ones you know i'd be gratefull if we don't fill the thread with the same ones over and over again.
1) 1Ghz Snapdragon Vs 600mhz MS7227
2) 3.7" Vs 3.2" Screen
3) 576MB Vs 384MB ram
4) Divx out of the box for desire no for legend.
Ok these are the differences i know for sure and i haven't found anything else. I am asking if anyone knows other ones especially if the ones i am gonna mention here are true or just rumors to get the customers buy the desire.
1) I read that the HTC Legend will not get the flashplayer 10.1 like Desire (will it at least have the flash lite like hero ?)
2) The browser used in the desire is the same as in the legend or is it an upgraded and better version of it ???
3) and something unrelated, is the difference in cpu so much of a problem for the legend???
Thanks and i hope someone will give me answers At least until april when i'll buy one of the two!!!
exactly the same boat, want the design of the Legend but with the screen and power of the Desire. Coming from a Touch HD, I don't really want to loose the screen size, think I'm still going for a Legend though, the Desire looks too much like a Touch HD!
Going to go SIM free though this time so I can swap it easily
One more difference between the 2 devices according to this thread is that the Legend will not have live wallpapers like the Desire.
Not much of a deal-breaker for most, I assume.
Regarding Flash 10.1, this article is worth a look.
Regardlesss, I'll be getting one of these for my wife when it releases. She needs a device that can take a beating. I gave her my Touch Diamond a few months ago. It was in near-mint condition at the time but now, the battery cover is scratched and a corner is broken off. I'm hoping the aluminum unibody design can help.
Personally, I'm pretty much set on getting the Desire for the sheer horsepower...
What about video recording mode?
We know the Desire will have HD recording but what about the Legend??
I hope it's not the wacky 320x240 of the Hero
vegetaleb said:
What about video recording mode?
We know the Desire will have HD recording but what about the Legend??
I hope it's not the wacky 320x240 of the Hero
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Any links to confirm the HD recording capabilities of the Desire?
This was a rumored feature and ever since the device was announce at MWC, there's been multiple sites saying that it doesn't record video at 720p.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_s8500_wave_and_htc_desire_headed_to_tmobile_soon-news-1461.php
http://www.toptechreviews.net/mobil...ve-and-the-htc-desire-on-its-way-to-t-mobile/
This news source is the only one that lets me keep my hopes alive for 720p recording. But then, this isn't a feature that I'm too concerned about...
yes the 720p video recording doesn't really matters so much for me. as for the live wallpapers neither but it would be a nice touch to have. also i think it WILL have live wallpapers, i read somewhere that it has but even if it doesn't since the gpu is the same as the nexus it won't be an issue to port them to the Legend. my main concerns are for performance especially and the internet stuff.
Another question is if they support wifi routering or at least tethering
The Legend is a sexy piece of hardware on the outside.
I will buy the next version once they upgrade the inside more with a Cortex chip instead of a cheapo one
I was very exited for both the Legend and Desire but yesterday when I red the review of GsmArena about the Amoled screen of the Nexus 1...I think I will take a Hero now
Why? Because they said the Amoled screen of N1 and most probably Legend/Desire is unreadable under direct sunlight
As long as I remember the Hero has been well reviewed about this particular detail which is important for me
Even if there is a lot of disaturation in direct sunlight there is no way you can't use the phone. and are you going to watch a movie or do something which takes time while standing in sunshine ??? i guess not
im so confused about which 1 2 get.
i definately want the HTC Legend as i had a Hero and like staying with my own.
but the power of the Desire is amaizing.
I don't understand why there is ANY debate about this at all. The Desire is better than the Legend in every spec. Infact, the Legend doesn't seem to be a big upgrade over the Hero imo, unless I am missing something?
yeah but desire looks like it was chewed,swallowed and digested compared to the legend...i mean desire is not ugly at all,but legend kicks ass....and umm does any of you guys maybe know the price range for any of those?
well according to clove.uk
HTC Desire = 464euro plus 25euro shipping(cyprus fedex)
HTC Legend = 426euro plus shipping
the gap between them is so little that makes me even more confused!!!
Isn't it too soon to have final prices?
The Desire and Legend will be released in mid-April right?
these prices are for preorder!!!
The design of this baby is so full of win, that I am willing to compromise with the specs.
kugelfish said:
The design of this baby is so full of win, that I am willing to compromise with the specs.
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me too....
I like the construction quality. This thing can take one serious beating be fore tossing in the towel. Would be nice to have that with the desire.
i wish the desire would come for cdma. at least the scorpion looks like a sprint phone. i fell like android+HTC will make me upgrade phones every few months. i wonder if i a cell company will do 6 month contracts. lol
i reallly dont care about looks, i have the G1 and thought it was the most beautiful piece of equipment when i got it. i hope the new phones will keep call funtionality
The thing that's confusing me is the price
the desire is only 10 euros up from legend ?
http://www.clove.co.uk/category.aspx?department=HTC&category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
looks like clove is kinda drunk
Is it just me or are new Android launches exciting even though we already have N1's?
HTC Droid Incredible Available for Pre-Order: Early Reviews Positive
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1944...able_for_preorder_early_reviews_positive.html
Daniel Ionescu
Verizon's second flagship Droid smartphone, the HTC Incredible, is now available for pre-orders, on a two-year contract for $200. Verizon says the first deliveries should arrive on April 29, if ordered online before 4 p.m. local time by April 28.
The HTC Incredible combines Verizon's network with the latest Google Android release (2.1) wrapped in HTC's Sense UI. The phone runs on a fast 1GHz processor, has a huge 3.7-inch capacitive display and features an 8-megapixel camera on the back. It also comes with 8GB of internal storage, upgradeable up to 32GB via MicroSD cards. No wonder the early reviewers love it.
My PC World colleague Ginny Mies says the HTC Droid Incredible lives up to its name. She found the new smartphone speedy and thinks the display is gorgeous. Mies also liked the HTC Sense UI used on the Droid Incredible (as in not the same interface of the Nexus One), especially the Leap feature, which is an elegant way of handling multitasking and the Friend Stream, a social network aggregator.
Engadget's Joshua Topolsky thinks the Droid Incredible is the "the best Android device that you can purchase in America right now." He claims it is better than the Motorola Droid or the Google Nexus One. Topolsky also found the interface of the HTC Incredible speedy, and the 8-megapixel camera on board can take "stunning photos -- particularly in daylight settings."
Gizmodo's Matt Buchanan also recommends the HTC Incredible as the must-buy smartphone on Verizon. He notes the Incredible is fast indeed, and that the Sense UI is an improvement over the standard Android interface. The camera on the Droid Incredible is rated decent by Buchanan, though he mentions that the phone itself can feel a little cheap and too plasticky.
Boy Genius' review of the HTC Incredible is also favorable, calling the smartphone his "favorite Android device to date." He thumbs up the corporate integration, the social networking elements in the Sense UI and the Web browser. Boy Genius also makes a fair point when he reminds us that due to the use of the HTC Sense UI in the Droid Incredible, Android updates will take longer to trickle down to the device than for Nexus One users.
Over at IntoMobile, Will Park also gives the HTC Droid Incredible a glowing review. He mentions the feature set is "one of the most impressive of any smartphone currently available today," and highlights the fact that due to Verizon's network technology, you can't use voice and data at the same time.
When it arrives starting April 29, the HTC Droid Incredible will have to battle it out with the Nexus One, which is also slated to arrive on Verizon around the same time. Fans of hardware keyboard might want to keep hold on their Motorola Droid for now, as so far there are no new Verizon Android phones with a physical keyboard expected. And if you are up for 4G Android goodness, you can always wait for the Sprint HTC Evo.
- PC World: HTC Droid Incredible Lives Up to Its Name
- Engadget: Droid Incredible review
- Boy Genius Report: Droid Incredible review
- IntoMobile: Review: Verizon’s HTC Droid Incredible
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The basics are of course a Nexus One with an 8MP camera and Sense pre-installed.
I'm jealous that reports are saying that the soft button weirdness is no more on the Incredible (Engadget), and scrolling around is much smoother. I'm wondering, do you think HTC made a new version of Sense for the Incredible? It's hard to say since you can't look up the version number of Sense on your phone.
Also, 1 year contract is $230 which isn't too bad. And the plans are expensive as hell of course, but my company has a 19% Verizon discount. The only thing I'm worried about is the re-sellability of a CDMA phone. With an unlocked Google phone, re-selling is easy as pie. But can you re-sell a locked CDMA Verizon phone?
Anyway, I'm excited about the Incredible. The more Androids out there, the better! The Droid army is growing, and quickly.
And I can't wait to see what they do with the ad campaign. I'm sad there weren't any Nexus One television ads. So yeah, who's ready to see some badass commercials? DROOOOOOOOOOOOOID
I had the opportunity to play with an Incredible this weekend. I have a friend that is testing it for two weeks. (I am a Nexus One owner)
Here are my thoughts:
1) It is the Nexus One only square.
2) The change in hard button placement SUCKS! The back button is in an odd location.
3) There was no speed increase that I could see in Sense UI
4) If you like Sense UI, buy this phone. If you don't need Sense UI there is no reason to own this.
5) 8MP camera...WOW...There is clear photos, crystal clear photos and then there is an 8MP camera photo. Seriously, I could photograph a wedding with this thing.
The phone was nice. The hard buttons were a real problem for placement. They responded the same as the N1 buttons, no change there that I could tell. The colors of the phone were great and it ran nicely. I was told by the tester the battery is not terrible, but not quite what she expected it to be.
After playing with it for a while if you Love Sense UI or would ever need to photograph the left toe of a bee flying 20 ft away from you, but the Incredible.
It actually is a great phone, but all things considered, I still prefer my N1
Engadget said the Incredible is the best android phone out in America right now, but why?
The 8 megapixel camera? 5 megapixel is more than enough for point and shoot pictures, I mean, the picture gets resized anyway when mms is done converting it. I just don't really see any point in having a high megapixel camera on a cell phone, unless you are really going to print out some posters.
The internal storage is nice, if it will store apps automatically.
And sense ui, well we've been having it for a while now.....
It's probably just me, but I still think they (nexus one, desire, incredible) are the same phone.
What erks, me is they say that it has a better screen scrolling smoothness than the nexus one...but how? It's using the same hardware different software, but essentially the same thing. Can software really make it that much better? Especially knowing how much resources sense uses? I never even thought of my nexus as not scrolling smooth at all, I didn't know it was an issue
Over on Android Central they did an overview of multitouch on the Incredible and showed it didn't have any of the same problems the Nexus has. Dont they use the same screen? Wouldn't that mean that the issues on the Nexus are software?
Here is an AndroidCentral video showing the Multitouch Test on the Incredible and on the Nexus One.. I guess one can assume that the screen hardware on the Incredible is different from N1. If I recall correctly, the Android developers had said that the N1 Multitouch issue was was related to the N1 screen hardware.
EDIT: I guess the poster above beat me to the punch while I was getting the video link.
nexous one
Ya the only thing I'm mad about is i paid around $600 dollars for this n1 and don't get me wrong this phone rocks and i have never had any problems at all no touch screen problems our anything but ya the incredible is coming out and is only $199 after rebate in store and eveyone can get it for that cheap after i paid so much for my phone and its better.
I just don't want a CDMA phone
the contact price is way more then tmobile and i would like sprint instead
I would love the 8mp camera because i own alpha auto detailing in Chico CA and i like taking pics of my cars before and after with my phone and not have to have a camera
http://www.alphaautodetailing.com/
To me that touchscreen becomes a software issue is a good thing. That means we can hope for improvments there instead of just being an is what it is deal were it hardware. The incredible is a great phone and sense is a real value added. Were I married to verizon I would choose it over the N1.
Paul22000 said:
Is it just me or are new Android launches exciting even though we already have N1's?
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Anyway, I'm excited about the Incredible. The more Androids out there, the better! The Droid army is growing, and quickly.
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Agreed. This is good news, even if it's just another way for open source solutions to move ahead of greedy corporate models. But the Incredible really does look like a nice phone - which is even better.
TurboTsi said:
The 8 megapixel camera? 5 megapixel is more than enough for point and shoot pictures, I mean, the picture gets resized anyway when mms is done converting it. I just don't really see any point in having a high megapixel camera on a cell phone, unless you are really going to print out some posters.
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Agree with this, too, sort of. Until optics get a lot better, the difference between 5 or 8 mega-pixels really won't matter one iota. However, there is something to be said for the HTC camera software, which by most accounts is a vast improvement over the N1's "pinky".
sn95chico said:
I just don't want a CDMA phone
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I'm in the same boat... I was hoping that the "surprise" about the Incredible was going to be that it was a CDMA & GSM WorldPhone like the Verizon Imagio... I was seriously considering switching from AT&T to Verizon, but this might be a show stopper for me as I use my GSM phone when I travel. I was already bothered by the inability of Verizon's CDMA network to support simultaneous voice and data. I also believe that the Incredible won't be able to support docking stations as it lacks the charging contacts at the bottom.
tamanaco said:
Here is an AndroidCentral video showing the Multitouch Test on the Incredible and on the Nexus One.. I guess one can assume that the screen hardware on the Incredible is different from N1. If I recall correctly, the Android developers had said that the N1 Multitouch issue was was related to the N1 screen hardware.
EDIT: I guess the poster above beat me to the punch while I was getting the video link.
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don't listen to that guy from android central. Most of the times he jumps to conclusion without thinking too much.
Unless, incredible goes through a tear down, we cannot say that the screen is different. I do remember Cynogen mentioning that there are settings in kernel that solves the multitouch tracking issue. Droid has them enabled... so most likely Incredible also.
In anycase... incredible is a good phone. Extra RAM and ROM and better Camera, does make this phone better than N1.... how much better... well it depends on how much these 3 things matter to you personally.
having used a few HTC phones... I don't trust HTC for support. They launch new devices left, right and center and start ignoring a device within a year. N1 is google's responsibility. They have to support it for a longer time. Just wait till FroYo launches.. you will get my point.
All I'm waiting to see is one, if the Incredible has a newer version of the Sense UI, and two, assuming that it does, when shall we have a mod for use N1 users.
Honestly, I really won't try the Sense UI until BT works on it as I really don't want to get a "distracted driving" ticket; however, the issues Android already has with BT irks me.
Though like the touchscreen issues, the BT issues are kernel related, so I guess we'll just have to wait until FroYo or perhaps an incremental release between Eclair and FroYo.
I've read the Incredible is using a different touchscreen than the nexus/desire.
FYI the lastest cyanogem 5.0.6 has the softkeys much for accurate.
muncheese said:
FYI the lastest cyanogem 5.0.6 has the softkeys much for accurate.
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How is that possible? I thought it was a hardware thing (physical sensors moved up a bit).
No idea, but switching from sense to cyanogen I've stopped worrying about hitting the "line right above the button".
arkavat said:
Extra RAM
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According to Verizon's webpage, it has the same amount, 512mb.
muncheese said:
I've read the Incredible is using a different touchscreen than the nexus/desire.
FYI the lastest cyanogem 5.0.6 has the softkeys much for accurate.
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I guess the Incredible screen is better
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/htc-incredible-and-evo-4g-to-feature-new-maxtouch-sensors/
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Here is an AndroidCentral video showing the Multitouch Test on the Incredible and on the Nexus One..
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Wow, just saw the video.
The difference is incredible!
/ba-dum-tish!
Seriously though, wow. The difference is night and day. It definitely isn't the same screen then, as I really really doubt that's just a software tweak.
Paul22000 said:
Wow, just saw the video.
The difference is incredible!
/ba-dum-tish!
Seriously though, wow. The difference is night and day. It definitely isn't the same screen then, as I really really doubt that's just a software tweak.
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Have we heard otherwise though? I'm thinking a hardware teardown is what will prove yea or nay in regards to the same screen as the N1.
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I guess the Incredible screen is better
http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/htc-incredible-and-evo-4g-to-feature-new-maxtouch-sensors/
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Ah ok, just read this.
We might have overreacted when using the word broken to refer to the Nexus One’s multitouch performance, but that post helped us learn the true culprit of the issue. When we took a closer look at HTC’s touch sensors used in their Android phones, we discovered they were using the Synaptics ClearPad 2000.
It turned out there was nothing wrong with the ClearPad sensor. It was working as advertised and was never meant to track the multiple touches that we were expecting. Google is likely to improve the multitouch performance with future software updates, but the Nexus One (and other HTC phones) will always be limited in what they can do with the Synaptics hardware.
HTC must have anticipated Google’s move to a more multitouch friendly Android because new reports suggest the handset maker has upgraded their touch sensors in two upcoming models. Various sources are now reporting that HTC is using the Atmel maXTouch family of touchscreen controllers in the upcoming Droid Incredible and EVO 4G.
The Atmel maXTouch sensors (mxt224) offer superior performance and low power consumption. These new sensors recognize an unlimited number of touches, offer faster response times, and have an excellent signal-to-noise ratio.
Atmel has produced a quick promo video to demonstrate the power of their maXTouch series. A complete series of videos is available on the Atmel site for additional details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8weBw6M9HHY
Looks like it is indeed a different screen.
N1 uses Synaptics ClearPad 2000
Incredible (and Evo) use Atmel maXTouch
Man, I'm jealous of the Incredible now.
[Edit]: And wow, that promo video is pretty ridiculous lol
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Ah ok, just read this.
We might have overreacted when using the word broken to refer to the Nexus One’s multitouch performance, but that post helped us learn the true culprit of the issue. When we took a closer look at HTC’s touch sensors used in their Android phones, we discovered they were using the Synaptics ClearPad 2000.
It turned out there was nothing wrong with the ClearPad sensor. It was working as advertised and was never meant to track the multiple touches that we were expecting. Google is likely to improve the multitouch performance with future software updates, but the Nexus One (and other HTC phones) will always be limited in what they can do with the Synaptics hardware.
HTC must have anticipated Google’s move to a more multitouch friendly Android because new reports suggest the handset maker has upgraded their touch sensors in two upcoming models. Various sources are now reporting that HTC is using the Atmel maXTouch family of touchscreen controllers in the upcoming Droid Incredible and EVO 4G.
The Atmel maXTouch sensors (mxt224) offer superior performance and low power consumption. These new sensors recognize an unlimited number of touches, offer faster response times, and have an excellent signal-to-noise ratio.
Atmel has produced a quick promo video to demonstrate the power of their maXTouch series. A complete series of videos is available on the Atmel site for additional details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8weBw6M9HHY
Looks like it is indeed a different screen.
N1 uses Synaptics ClearPad 2000
Incredible (and Evo) use Atmel maXTouch
Man, I'm jealous of the Incredible now.
[Edit]: And wow, that promo video is pretty ridiculous lol
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Man ain't that a bummer for us N1 owners.
Though having multi-touch is useful more while browsing and such; I really don't play games on my device minus the occasional dabbling with NESoid, and even then I use the trackball and volume up/down buttons.
Hi dear,
I own galaxy s and I like it.
After I saw HTC desire hd, I've changed my mind though.
I'm about to sell my phone and going to get the phone ot desire.
Do you think if I will get desire(not hd), is it too late to get it?
Should I wait for desire hd?
I'm tired of the laggy on galaxy s...
13 days till HD is released, thats nothing honestly.
I've been waiting for months =X
@jorkobe23 The only reason you're considering buying a DHD is because of the lag issues on the SGS? If so, why not wait until the end of the month for the SGS update to 2.2 to see if it fixes the lag issues?
It may save you a lot of money to wait, especially since from your post it seems that other than the lag you're happy with your SGS.
nono,
I love sense ui and I want to have bigger screen.
I heard android froyo is optimized for snappgon cpu not hummingbird.
So many people guess even though froyo will release for galaxy s,
the laggy and gps problem will not be solved.
Idree: Haha,
did you sell your galaxy s?
wait for the DHD, its will be on stock very soon, until the 22th.
dono, for me anyway the SGS is not the real thing, no cm for that device yet, and dono, its made like plastic.
jorkobe23 said:
nono,
I love sense ui and I want to have bigger screen.
I heard android froyo is optimized for snappgon cpu not hummingbird.
So many people guess even though froyo will release for galaxy s,
the laggy and gps problem will not be solved.
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if you want a bigger screen i wouldn't go for the desire because that has a 3.7" screen which is smaller than your current phone, which is 4" the desire hd will have a screen of 4,3"
Desire HD advantages:
- updated graphics GPU (faster 3d games performance)
- bigger screen 4.3 vs 3.7inch
- 8MP camera with real 720p recording vs 5MP and broken 720p
- more RAM and more internal storage (internal is no issue on desire with A2SD+)
- Full aluminum body
- new sense
Desire advantages
- Slimmer, lighter and easier to operate in one hand
- Higher screen density (252dpi vs 233dpi)
- AMOLED or SLCD (Sexier colors and blacks then standard LCD on the HD with better viewing angle)
- semi aluminum frame
- new sense is on the way (either officially or by xda)
i'm personally in love with my dense SLCD screen and slim body, so i wait for the next desire, praying for 4inch version
Haha Thanks for useful information, hamdir.
Hm... I think I should go desire HD cos I heard desire has had multi touch problem, right?
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Haha Thanks for useful information, hamdir.
Hm... I think I should go desire HD cos I heard desire has had multi touch problem, right?
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a slight multi touch problem, the desire is dual touch, i'm not facing any issues with games like hero of sparta and emulators
the issue appears with FPS like games for example where you might keep one finger still on the movement buttons and aim with the other
in games like heavy gunner where you have to dual control both left and right guns i faced no issues and i've enjoyed that game
as for the interface no problems, pinch to zoom works perfectly
but yes your right if that is a concern go with the HD (i'm not sure if multi touch is confirmed), the HD is more suited to games anyway because of the much faster GPU
for me i compared the HD2 usage to Desire usage and the size was unfortunatly an issue for me
Ok.. so I'm in the same situation here... and I can't make up my mind between the 2 phones ....
I've read this whole forum and also looked at the 20 best mobile phones at techradar - The original desire is still at number 1.
I like the big screen. I am basically in front of a pc the whole day .. So I can pretty much charge the phone anytime.
So I would like some input from fellow xda users ... which is the best to go for? Desire or Desire HD?
Cranzy said:
Ok.. so I'm in the same situation here... and I can't make up my mind between the 2 phones ....
I've read this whole forum and also looked at the 20 best mobile phones at techradar - The original desire is still at number 1.
I like the big screen. I am basically in front of a pc the whole day .. So I can pretty much charge the phone anytime.
So I would like some input from fellow xda users ... which is the best to go for? Desire or Desire HD?
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I have a Desire and just got the DHD last week. The DHD doesn't seem like a big enough upgrade over the Desire for me personally and I prefer the more compact size of the desire.
If I didn't already have the Desire, I would be happy with the DHD on it's merits.
@Cranzy: my opinion is that if you don't mind the extra 4mm height and 8mm width, if you don't mind the touch buttons and don't need the optical trackball, if you don't mind the maybe little lower battery life (on other side, on first run i still have 52% battery after nearly 12 hour run, so it looks like a full day with a bit higher usage than usual for me), then go for Desire HD. I got it yesterday, and it's impossible to compare with my old Milestone, the speed is like from a different planet .
Thanks for the info... Think I'm much more leaning towards the Desire HD ...
Ok... the more i read the forum here .. the more I'm thinking Im gonna make the wrong choice by moving to the desire HD and that I should rather be moving to the normal desire ... maybe I should go start reading the normal desire forums ...
Each phone has probably got their own problems...
Will future firmware updates fix most of these little nagging problems ..?
I am upgrading here from HTC diamond .. so both desire or desire HD is a major upgrade ...
Is everybody still saying I should go for the desire HD?
It all depends what you want, but don't forget that graphical performance of HTC Desire is ~50% of the Desire HD or Z.
I really like the big screen and htcsense feature ... i don't mind the battery ... just been reading about the sensor and camera issues ...
Im still leaning towards the Desire HD though
I'm on my second day of my dhd not totally sure if I'm keeping it . Love the screen size and battery life . But its not that much of an upgrade from my desire and I do like the amoled screen better on the desire .
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I gathered from the forums that if you are coming from the desire .. the upgrade isn't really worth it... but for me coming from htc diamond ... it will be
To be honest they are both great phones . Very tempted to keep the hd but will live with my desire till something a bit better comes along or my desire goes faulty . But never the less the hd is a class phone if your coming from something totally different .
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My previous query about whether to go for the Desire (Original) or the Desire Z has led me to ponder if there will be an equivalent of the Desire Z for people that don't want a qwerty.
Ideally, I would like to see an upgrade to the Desire incorporating all the features of the Z such as the improved multitouch, the upgraded processor, New HTC Sense, improved battery life (hopeful) and all other benefits but in the same form factor and size as the Desire.
I wonder why HTC haven't bothered with such a device?
Uh they did... the Desire HD (announced same time as Desire Z) that just launched in Europe:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirehd/overview.html
I'm aware of the Desire HD ... that's why I put this bit in my post :
"but in the same form factor and size as the Desire"
ie - the Desire HD is HUGE. I want the same features as the Desire Z but I don't want the qwerty OR the size of the HD.
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I'm aware of the Desire HD ... that's why I put this bit in my post :
"but in the same form factor and size as the Desire"
ie - the Desire HD is HUGE. I want the same features as the Desire Z but I don't want the qwerty OR the size of the HD.
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Oh I see.
They "havn't bothered" with such a device because the Desire was only released like 6 months ago! It's not exactly good business sense to release updated versions of the exact same phone several times a year, lol.
Another 6 months down the line and HTC's latest phones have even more features and benefits, and you'll want a Desire with those too?
Daffa, I have seen other manufacturers do just that! Whilst it may not be great business sense on the one hand, on the other it's giving customers what they want - ergo making them less likely to defect!
I like many thousands of others may well hanker after the latest and greatest further down the line - the fact that it may be not that much further down the line is down to the speed in which technology moves on!
Oh and if you are going to quote me to hilight my turn of phrase, maybe either use the quote feature or take a little more care with your spelling? - you had me wondering if *I* was the one that had got it wrong for a second there ;-p
I guess in the case of the iPhone this is true, but outside of that, I can't really think of anything else. Certainly nothing that is released in a 6 month time-span.
And yeah, I'm so annoyed about that mistake, lol. I constantly make that mistake and a friend of mine chastises me about it frequently. I'm stuck having done it for so long that I'm almost unable to not make the mistake unless I'm really really paying attention.
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I guess in the case of the iPhone this is true, but outside of that, I can't really think of anything else. Certainly nothing that is released in a 6 month time-span.
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Nokia (N95 / N95 8GB)
So....2 phones.
I wonder why HTC put out the Z and the HD..
Oh wait, now I remember, because people are buying 4" phones and 3.7" sliders, literally faster than they can be made.
There is a tiny, tiny, tiny market (compared to the people screaming for sliders and big-screened devices) for your bastard love child of the Desire and the Desire HD, and it's not even big enough for HTC to finish laughing it out of the R&D meetings.
A phone like that, the Z without the keyboard will happen eventually, but not at a time when horizontal sliders or giant media machines are the craze, eg, 2010.
I'm in the same boat - I've just returned the Desire Z because it was too heavy.
I currently own an HD2 which I find massive, and don't want the Desire HD because its even (slightly) bigger!
I grudge paying out £350 for a Desire when its 6 months old!
Ideally they'd make a Wildfire with a high resolution screen!
The Motorola Milestone 2, beats the Z on some specs but looses out on others.
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So....2 phones.
I wonder why HTC put out the Z and the HD..
Oh wait, now I remember, because people are buying 4" phones and 3.7" sliders, literally faster than they can be made.
There is a tiny, tiny, tiny market (compared to the people screaming for sliders and big-screened devices) for your bastard love child of the Desire and the Desire HD, and it's not even big enough for HTC to finish laughing it out of the R&D meetings.
A phone like that, the Z without the keyboard will happen eventually, but not at a time when horizontal sliders or giant media machines are the craze, eg, 2010.
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I disagree!
The original Desire was said by some to be the most popular smartphone of 2010 - and this falls into neither of your above categories.
The Desire being such a success is screaming out to be updated whilst keeping the same form factor IMO.
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There is a tiny, tiny, tiny market (compared to the people screaming for sliders and big-screened devices) for your bastard love child of the Desire and the Desire HD, and it's not even big enough for HTC to finish laughing it out of the R&D meetings.
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I would love a Desire HD or even a Dell Streak with a landscape qwerty keyboard
Hey guys,
I am torn between these 2 phones. Which one should I get, HTC Desire Z or Samsung Galaxy S?
In terms of future updates (Gingerbread or Honeycomb if there is), which one is more likely to be updated?
In terms of web browsing, is Galaxy S with stock froyo good enough to be compared to HTC Desire Z?
Need your guys inputs for battery life too.
Thanks and really appreciate any response.
bryant_16 said:
Hey guys,
I am torn between these 2 phones. Which one should I get, HTC Desire Z or Samsung Galaxy S?
In terms of future updates (Gingerbread or Honeycomb if there is), which one is more likely to be updated?
In terms of web browsing, is Galaxy S with stock froyo good enough to be compared to HTC Desire Z?
Need your guys inputs for battery life too.
Thanks and really appreciate any response.
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Do you email, text, tweet and IM a lot? Enough to justify a hardware keyboard?
Get the Z.
For web browsing alone, the Galaxy S will probably be better with it's larger and AMOLED screen.
Regarding future updates, I'd go for the Z. At least HTC update their flagship phones (the Z is not, but the Galaxy S has still not been updated).
I don't know anything about the batteries.
Hope I helped you bro.
Certainly bro, thanks!
The speed of the web browsing as compared to Galaxy S (froyo stock), which one is faster?
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Certainly bro, thanks!
The speed of the web browsing as compared to Galaxy S (froyo stock), which one is faster?
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Don't know, have neither phone
Although I think they'd be about the same. And whichever phone has the faster CPU would probably render the pages faster.
Why not visit a phone shop and test both out. Just say to someone (who works there) that you don't know which phone to pick, and would like to test them side by side.
And be sure to ask them to put a SIM in.
"WHY WON'T IT LOAD ANY PAGES!!?!"
I see. Thanks for the inputs. Is the multi-touch resolved for the HTC Desire Z?
And also, one thing that is bothering me is the hinge. Is it that bad?
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I see. Thanks for the inputs. Is the multi-touch resolved for the HTC Desire Z?
And also, one thing that is bothering me is the hinge. Is it that bad?
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I think the hinge just depends on the individual phone. Some people get a stiff (and therefore better) hinge than others. Otherwise, if you get a looser hinge, it *should* only affect you if you lie down or use the phone upside down. Or tweet on a rollercoaster.
I'm going to try and find a shop with a Z to play with it before it is purchased, so if you want, when I come back I'll tell you about the multitouch. Although it'd be better for me if I could install Multi-Touch Visualiser or something on it..
Yeah sure, let me know if the multi-touch is fixed for this phone.
Seems like the hinge is only happening to certain users.
Remind me, what was the multi touch problem?
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The z is a better phone by far its built better, its sexier , it can be over clocked to up to 1.9 gigahertz!! And the keyboard feels great and the hinge is pretty stable. And sense is amazing too. the galaxy is an okay phone its got a big screen and its really bright but the amoled makes the colors look off a bit but its still nice but that's not enough to convince me to buy it. Plus htc just makes the best smartphones. Oh and the z has an fm radio
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And I think it comes with 2.2 wich has flash and that makes for amazing web browsing. I think the samsung has only 2.1 I don't think that has flash. But you could always just get skyfire
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The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
Ah cool. How could i look for that on a stock z? Browser?
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Yeah, you can try that on a browser or picture.
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The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
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Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you explain please ? Then I could tell you what the results is on the DZ. Though as I understand it the DZ has full multi-touch, unlike, say, the Desire.
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Remind me, what was the multi touch problem?
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Am not aware of any multi touch issues but the z has true multi touch, it can register up to 4 points at any given time meaning it's also great for gaming. It took me a while to finally purchase the z after hearing alot of discontentments about the sheer weight of the phone and the hinge. I thought that nothing could beat the n1 but after only a couple of me time with my new z, I knew that I'd made the right choice, it has alot to offer and now that permanent root has been obtained it's only gonna be a matter of time before more custom roms are available, we already have cyanogen, evil, paul and villainrom on board.
I'd say the z/g2.
z and hd has true multitouch.
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The multi-touch issue in which it will go off when it cross each other paths.
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This is not desire z or galaxy s specific. This was a big problem on the n1.
Cool~~ what's holding me back from buying desire z is the hinge man!
I don't know how bad is the hinge.
Is the processor speed of 800mhz different from the HTC Desire snapdragon of 1ghz?
Because currently I'm using HTC Desire.
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Cool~~ what's holding me back from buying desire z is the hinge man!
I don't know how bad is the hinge.
Is the processor speed of 800mhz different from the HTC Desire snapdragon of 1ghz?
Because currently I'm using HTC Desire.
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What I've heard about were the potential damage to the hinge and not damaged hinges. The new processor is indeed a 2nd generation snapdragon. I did a comparison against my n1 both running at 1ghz. You'd be pleased to know that the z blew the n1 out of the water on linpack and quadrant tests.
How's the GPU in HTC Desire Z as compared to Galaxy S?