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Found a Tmobile Wing last night

yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it? I already have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) and I do have Tmobile and live in America.
What is better about the Wing compared to the 8525? I heard there was a processor boost and more internal memory is this correct?
Also, how and where to get it unlocked? I travel to Europe periodically.

Mog said:
yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it? I already have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) and I do have Tmobile and live in America.
What is better about the Wing compared to the 8525? I heard there was a processor boost and more internal memory is this correct?
Also, how and where to get it unlocked? I travel to Europe periodically.
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One idea. Just bring it to the "Lost and Found Office" - you would be happy if oneother would do it.

Mog said:
yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it?
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Return it for Pete's sake! TMO will have a record of the owner via the sim card

Do The Right Thing
What goes around comes around.......I say return it.

treo...not! said:
Return it for Pete's sake! TMO will have a record of the owner via the sim card
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They also record the IMEI with each call. Just an FYI. So, if it's reported stolen, it can (in theory) be barred from T-Mo's network.

Mi|enko said:
They also record the IMEI with each call. Just an FYI. So, if it's reported stolen, it can (in theory) be barred from T-Mo's network.
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And they will be able to see that your SIM is using it.

You "found" it?? Then return it!
No help from my side ...

What should I do? You're kidding right? Return the damn thing!!! Didn't your mutha teach youse better than that? I'm sure you can find the owner info on the device. You want a Wing... Buy a Wing!
Besides, you have T-Mobile?
Stick your sim card in it. 5 -4 -3 -2 -1....
Hello Mr. Finder-of-lost-Wings-yet-won't-return-them? The persons Wing you are using was murdered and being you have the persons phone, we is be gonna arrest youse butt!!!
If you lost your 8525 and I found it, would you want me to return it? If not, I'll PM you my address and you can mail it to me and pretend you lost it.

keep that ****! finders keepers, losers weepers

bigdookie said:
keep that ****! finders keepers, losers weepers
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Nice. Let's hope that you never have the misfortune of losing yours and having someone find it with that attitude.

I work for t-mobile... and they can track to see where an imei is being used, so they will find you, and what they will do is cut your service off if you are using it for too long... im just saying

What ever happened to that phone????? You may be able to find the guy in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305139

bigdookie said:
keep that ****! finders keepers, losers weepers
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Like what are you, 12?

dkb218 said:
What should I do? You're kidding right? Return the damn thing!!! Didn't your mutha teach youse better than that? I'm sure you can find the owner info on the device. You want a Wing... Buy a Wing!
Besides, you have T-Mobile?
Stick your sim card in it. 5 -4 -3 -2 -1....
Hello Mr. Finder-of-lost-Wings-yet-won't-return-them? The persons Wing you are using was murdered and being you have the persons phone, we is be gonna arrest youse butt!!!
If you lost your 8525 and I found it, would you want me to return it? If not, I'll PM you my address and you can mail it to me and pretend you lost it.
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Obviously yours never tought you english.
I agree return it. The wing isn't cheap and if I lost mine i'd be very upset.

spanspace said:
Obviously yours never tought you english.
I agree return it. The wing isn't cheap and if I lost mine i'd be very upset.
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LOL. If you going to punk someone on their english you should atleast check yours first....lol

OMG!!!!! YOU FOUND IT!!!! I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT EVERYWHERE!!! PM me and I will give you my address. Oh Thank god I thought it was gone FOREVER!
LOL

Mog said:
yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it? I already have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) and I do have Tmobile and live in America.
What is better about the Wing compared to the 8525? I heard there was a processor boost and more internal memory is this correct?
Also, how and where to get it unlocked? I travel to Europe periodically.
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Man WTF?! The Hermes is way better compared to the Wing. The Wing has half the CPU (200 vs. 400). I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet since it was one of the questions the man asked. Why would you even WANT to keep it?

so what have you decdied to do?

Dude, check "owner info" and return it.
If anyone decided to keep my Wing when they could easily return it to me, I'd pour A-1 sauce down his pants and let my pit bull loose...

FYI...
I have researched the "IMEI tracking" issue at length with both Tmobile and ATT (formerly Crapular) and both sides have told me repeatedly (CR, managers and acct. reps) that they DO NOT blacklist IMEIs.
Also, they DO NOT have agreements with other providers around the world (or each other) to share each operator's blacklisted IMEIs.
I know UK providers share their lists, and Voda providers throughout the world share the Voda list.
When I asked about police involvement, I was told that there needs to be a court order for the IMEI tracking info to be released.
Now, that being said... I agree with all others. You should return it. There is plenty of info in a phone to figure out who it may belong to. Call records, SMS, emails, maybe a doc or two, owner info. Besides, if the person lost the phone they will report it lost, Tmobile will deactivate the SIM and at the subscriber's request activate a new one. If you just were to call that number (which would be found in the phone itself) then you will reach the owner.
Personally I have never lost a phone. Bricked one once but never lost. Quite frankly I would be pissed and angry. Very pissed and angry! And if someone was to return it, I would take them out for a very nice steak dinner. Being the phone nut that I am, money is really no object when it comes to something i've dedicated my spare time to for many years.

will it work on verizon?

The reason I ask is because I went to both verizon and sprint and i asked:
--at verizon--
Me: If I buy an Evo from sprint, full price and bring it here to run on your network will it work? being that both of you run CDMA I dont see it being a problem? am I wrong?
Verizon: No, it will not work. You should get our "incredible."
--at sprint--
Me: If I buy an "incredible" from Verizon, full price and bring it here to run on your network will it work? being that both of you run CDMA I dont see it being a problem? am I wrong?
Sprint: No, it will not work.
So I asked them both why not...?
Verizon: different hardware. And settings.
Sprint: Legality.
(they also said they have not had their training yet at that location for the evo... and they are only a few weeks away of a release. )
Can someone explain whats going on here? They made me doubt my understanding as to how cdma worked. It is to my understanding it should work on both networks. Question is, getting verizon to accept me as a customer with the evo. Someone correct me if im wrong.
Im set on the Evo, but I dont want Sprint. I want verizon. Not planning on getting the "incredible." For that I stick with the iphone 4g and att.

There are ways to do it, but they are quite illegal (as in rape you in the ass prison felony). Look it up online, but don't expect to find that info here.

kyleblakepeters said:
There are ways to do it, but they are quite illegal (as in rape you in the ass prison felony). Look it up online, but don't expect to find that info here.
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Any chance for a little more clarification? A keyword at least to find my answer. I just want to know actually why they would reject a potential customer. I'm a little tired of smoke and mirrors.
I wouldn't want to do anything illegal like cloning. I just want facts. No big deal.

tried it twice...no go
only way would be to hack the phone and change a whole lotta stuff...then change the esn to another verizon phone you own (which is illegal, i believe). then it is possible. however, i have two phones (one alltel, one sprint) and have requested verizon to add my esn's to their database (after i changed the 'whole lotta stuff' myself) ...eventhough the phones work on verizon, i could never get them to add them to their database enabling me to legally use the phone on their network. i griped and griped, they 'caved' in on more than one occasion, and said it would be done, but never did it. 15-20 total calls? and still nothing. i can't wait to tell them i am leaving...and for that reason i am not on contract. they tried to tell me numerous times it "wouldn't work, different hardware" but i have even tested it and made calls successfully, so it all seems to be a game. the one department that was designed to allow this, apparently closed. bottom line, don't waste your time. by the time someone posts instructions on how to do it, their will be 2-3 verizon phones more powerful -it is still a long way off.

It's ESN switching. Sprint and Verzion never put each others ESNs on to the other's network. I don't think even Jesus could manage that feat.

adeyo said:
only way would be to hack the phone and change a whole lotta stuff...then change the esn to another verizon phone you own (which is illegal, i believe). then it is possible. however, i have two phones (one alltel, one sprint) and have requested verizon to add my esn's to their database (after i changed the 'whole lotta stuff' myself) ...eventhough the phones work on verizon, i could never get them to add them to their database enabling me to legally use the phone on their network. i griped and griped, they 'caved' in on more than one occasion, and said it would be done, but never did it. 15-20 total calls? and still nothing. i can't wait to tell them i am leaving...and for that reason i am not on contract. they tried to tell me numerous times it "wouldn't work, different hardware" but i have even tested it and made calls successfully, so it all seems to be a game. the one department that was designed to allow this, apparently closed. bottom line, don't waste your time. by the time someone posts instructions on how to do it, their will be 2-3 verizon phones more powerful -it is still a long way off.
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Thank you! thats the answer I was looking for. Much grateful!
What about the users that pay full price? Why would they do that if they cant take it elsewhere? Does it mean Even if they pay full price, the ESN belongs to sprint? It sounds wrong to do that. Im not complaining. Im just trying to make sense of this.

0okami said:
It sounds wrong to do that.
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Welcome to the world. Don't let the door kick you in the ass on the way out.

theres a form you can fill out to take a cdma phone from another carrier and activate it on verizon, you need to ship your phone to vzw HQ though, and they say it can take 3 weeks to determine if they will allow it on the network or not.
its an official verizon form just gotta find it.

tricknasty said:
theres a form you can fill out to take a cdma phone from another carrier and activate it on verizon, you need to ship your phone to vzw HQ though, and they say it can take 3 weeks to determine if they will allow it on the network or not.
its an official verizon form just gotta find it.
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I'll check with the verizon rep. She was really friendly and what ever she didnt know she dug for papers. Maybe we can work something out.
I'll keep everyone posted if something results.
Thanks for the information!

will not work on verizon, they have a policy of not taking sprint branded phones, the esn's are registered to sprint and they know it's an evo.
sprint doesn't take anything other than what they've registered... it's a sticky thicket I know.
esn cloneing would work, but we don't talk about that kinda stuff here apparently, gotten scolded on more than one occasion for doing so =P

[Q] Does this phone work with FIDO (Canada)

Hello,
I didnt know where to put this question but i am considering buying this phone. Does anyone know if it will work with FIDO (Canada)?
Thanks.

It works on Rogers so it should work on Fido as well

Yes, I am using it on fido and it is working perfectly!!
3 things:
1- download the sms time fix (the sms received will be -4hours unless you download this from the marketplace because how rogers/fido does thier time stamping)
2- take name display out as some reported that it doesn't play nice with atrix when you receive a call from a landline. (I never have that problem because noone calls me from landline)
3 - I am on the AT&T atrix and it will warn me when i reboot the phone that I am on roaming network, once you click the notification, your phone does not complain

I am on Rogers with the ATT Atrix. I just had to load the APN settings and now I'm good, data and calls are perfect.
HungryEel, I did not test sms, but I will look into your fix.

It WILL work with fido I brought the ATT from US and unlock it. Now I am using it in Canada with Fido. Really great run H+

I'm on Rogers and didn't need any SMS fix. I did call in to ask for "name display" to be "excluded" from my account though - this fixed the Pay Phone listing from coming up on incoming calls though.

+1 worked fine on Fido... unfortunately when you unlock this phone it voids the bell warranty so i have to go through the Motorola service centre in Richmond...
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Hey Guys, since this is a topic about using in canada on rogers/fido network, I have two questions.
where did ya'll get the phone unlock from? and if someone can tell me how much it would cost?
and does anyone know if the 6GB dataplan from rogers/fido still possible to get?
i know for sure that Android eats up the data very quickly, i have opted for 1 gb data from rogers and I am always either almost finished with or over the data. i like the Atrix, am definitely picking up the phone by this saturday. Don't want to carry around 2 phones, if the 6gb plan is not available, thinking of leaving rogers as it is too expensive.
any suggestions? help much appreciated.

I used Cellunlock.com there are some coupons floating around for 50% off.
For your Rogers plan, you really should read this thread. I had a crappy plan and after reading that thread and doing my homeworks, I called retention 3 times and ended up with a ridiculously nice plan. From what I know, the 6Gb plan is dead and the only way to get one is to have a grandfathered corporate plan.
How are you using so mutch data ? you should try using wifi ... (or opera mini)
Oh and don't forget to call retention, maybe they can do something for you.

noxlord said:
I used Cellunlock.com there are some coupons floating around for 50% off.
For your Rogers plan, you really should read this thread. I had a crappy plan and after reading that thread and doing my homeworks, I called retention 3 times and ended up with a ridiculously nice plan. From what I know, the 6Gb plan is dead and the only way to get one is to have a grandfathered corporate plan.
How are you using so mutch data ? you should try using wifi ...
Oh and don't forget to call retention, maybe they can do something for you.
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Thanks a lot for the info. I will try CellUnlock.com.
I will call Rogers Retention people and see what happens. I have tried that trick in past and have got response such as "Oh you want to cancel your plan, sure, pay the money to us and F... O..." basically. Hence I am a little hesitant. But hey, there is no reason why I shouldn't try calling them again.
Why do I use it so much? Cuz my job requires me to... I travel through GTA a lot, and because I have a smartphone, I use it for pretty much everything from checking my emails to making phone calls to use it as a GPS.

creativedevil said:
Thanks a lot for the info. I will try CellUnlock.com.
I will call Rogers Retention people and see what happens. I have tried that trick in past and have got response such as "Oh you want to cancel your plan, sure, pay the money to us and F... O..." basically. Hence I am a little hesitant. But hey, there is no reason why I shouldn't try calling them again.
Why do I use it so much? Cuz my job requires me to... I travel through GTA a lot, and because I have a smartphone, I use it for pretty much everything from checking my emails to making phone calls to use it as a GPS.
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read the thread, if you are into a contract, there is a new rules: they can only charge you what you own them on your subsidised phone.
use a line like "I really like your service, but since it's SOOO mutch cheaper elsewere, there is no reason for me to stay..."

noxlord said:
read the thread, if you are into a contract, there is a new rules: they can only charge you what you own them on your subsidised phone.
use a line like "I really like your service, but since it's SOOO mutch cheaper elsewere, there is no reason for me to stay..."
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To add to this, remind the CSR that you want to be compelled to stay but in such a competitive market place you need to look at all avenues (the mitigating factor being what you pay, you want a better plan for what you pay!).
Do make sure to up sell the benefits of staying with your current provider and they'll happily recline, making small talk and keeping the discussion constructive and positive. They'll "review" things and find either a feature they can add, a discount that can be applied, etc. Just remain optimistic and act as though you're so torn between sticking with them or going with a risky new provider.
This usually seems to yield good results with me. I've worked in Retention departments and can sniff a promo hopper from a mile away. But if you're a nice promo hopper, whatever, I'll give you a good deal. Just be polite and a good sport. They'll try hooking you up where they can. Usually..
(if not, tell them thanks and that you'll call back after some review)

Thank you so much for the input guys... Real Helpful tips... I will try all the options mentioned above and will get back with some results...

Awesome, man. Let us know how it goes.

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Awesome, man. Let us know how it goes.
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Well guys, the tips above didn't help in the first try. I called them, got transferred to retention, answer was same old ****ed up response... Oh, we are sorry to see you leaving, let me just remind you that you will have to pay Rogers to end your contract, when do you want to end the contract?
I will try calling them again next week and see if my luck works out this time...
Again, thanks a ton. I have my Atrix working superb and flawlessly.

Oh No!: Lost my HD2 :-(

The reign of my HD2 is over.....I loved this phone....all the rom testing and such, are now memories/knowledge
Well......was my birthday weekend and maybe went a little overboard.
I lost my HD2
But already within the few months i've had it...I already cracked the screen, and thankfully I didn't send it in to get the screen repaired...because now i've lost it.
I think I am going to try and get an Incredible S (ohhhh, ahh) now....
This time, I will be getting screen protectors, cases, GPS tracking app....because I can't spend..er..waste this much money again for another phone!! lol :-(

matrx10503 said:
The reign of my HD2 is over.....I loved this phone....all the rom testing and such, are now memories/knowledge
Well......was my birthday weekend and maybe went a little overboard.
I lost my HD2
But already within the few months i've had it...I already cracked the screen, and thankfully I didn't send it in to get the screen repaired...because now i've lost it.
I think I am going to try and get an Incredible S (ohhhh, ahh) now....
This time, I will be getting screen protectors, cases, GPS tracking app....because I can't spend..er..waste this much money again for another phone!! lol :-(
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You didn't have lookout installed on your Android ROM by any chance did you?

I tried remote install Plan B......but just my luck my battery was dead :-/

if you still have the box or you know the imei, better call your network provider / customer service. you can have the phone locked / blocked from ever being used. tke note that the network provider may not necessarily be the one to lock your phone. at least that's how it is here in melbourne. i had to call a different number / customer service to request for my imei to be blocked when i lost my touch pro 2. cheers

Robson said:
if you still have the box or you know the imei, better call your network provider / customer service. you can have the phone locked / blocked from ever being used. tke note that the network provider may not necessarily be the one to lock your phone. at least that's how it is here in melbourne. i had to call a different number / customer service to request for my imei to be blocked when i lost my touch pro 2. cheers
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They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.

As sort of "bait".....I have left the phone on and I have been monitoring the usage. The phone has not been used at all.
My general thinking was I wanted someone to find the phone and turn it on, so Plan B could install and push me the location.
I honestly believe....if it has/had been found....because it was dead and cracked, the person probably threw it away thinking it had been run over by car or something and "doesn't work" by the appearance

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They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.
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ah, really? didn't know that, thanks mate. just out of curiousity and pardon my ignorance, why can't imei be blocked in the us? does it have to do with the carriers themselves? cheers

if you have give nthe comand to remote install plan b then ass soon as someone turns on your ophone(if by chance) you can get the location

matrx10503 said:
As sort of "bait".....I have left the phone on and I have been monitoring the usage. The phone has not been used at all.
My general thinking was I wanted someone to find the phone and turn it on, so Plan B could install and push me the location.
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if you have give nthe comand to remote install plan b then ass soon as someone turns on your ophone(if by chance) you can get the location
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Well...I just ordered an Inspire 4G.....Not exactly the Incredible S I wanted, I still want it....but probably not wise since a billion phones will be coming out, with dual core and all that
But I really don't care about the hype of the new phones that will be coming out soon.....my HD2 was good enough for me
The phone is STILL yet to be used.....so either thrown away or left in a car under seat or something. IDK IDK IDK
So I guess im off to learning a new phone..:-/..all the quirks, installation steps, roms, etc. for the Inspire

Doesn't matter, as long as it's something you want. Dual core isn't everyone's cup of tea anyways. Plus they're hell of expensive, enough to buy you a capable/good lappy. Have fun with your new phone. :3

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T-Mobile is starting this feature in June, from what I have read.

SIM unlock: iPhone vs. SG4 - and the winner is...

...iPhone by the 1000 miles.
Well, before the fan boys start throwing feces at me, here is the story.
I know that it is different hardware and OS and all that, but the problem is not in this.
The problem is the way Apple and Samsung approach the demands from the carriers to lock down their devices and how is the unlocking process handled.
So to SIM unlock the iPhone you call Sprint Customer Service (SCC) and after usual crap about 90 days they say, ok we submitted the request to unlock to Apple you should receive an e-mail shortly. In about 30 minutes the e-mail comes where it instructs you to backup-factory-reset-restore your iPhone. You do that, and that's it. It is unlocked for _ALL_ GSM carriers, foreign and domestic alike.
It is that simple.
Now to SIM unlock the SG4 you call SCC and after usual crap about 90 days you are told that your phone is unlocked, and it will magically work when you abroad but there is absolutely no way for you to see if it works with a foreign SIM while you are in the US. Moreover there is absolutely no way you can use it with any of the US GSM carriers. Most likely when you finally get abroad it will still not work.
Pain and disappointment.
So what happened here?
The answer is simple, Apple gives a middle finger to all carriers who ask it to give them control over the device. Have you seen any bloatware from Sprint, Verizon, ATT or TMO on the iPhone? No!
The Samsung, on the other hand, bands over backwards for carriers and it turns everything in to the theater of the absurd.
One would think: "...well if Sprint made Samsung to lock down the device in a certain way they must be able to ask Samsung to do the SIM unlock"; nop, no such luck, the SCC will tell you that Samsung has nothing to do with this and at Samsung they will tell you to go to your carrier.
Ok, fine, then apparently if this is the OS modification made by Sprint, one would try to reason: "...the SCC must have some internal tool to unlock the device and check that it is unlocked"; well this is also not the case.
What Sprint is obviously happy about is that they bravely disallowed you to use local GSM carriers.
So it is an interesting situation, actually Samsung and Sprint are equally to be blamed for our pain with SIM unlock and non will take a blame.
I'm pretty sure the ATT and TMO customers just laughing at us right about now the SG4 on their networks can be unlocked with a simple app from the market or even with some service menu.
There was a guy from SCC here, or so he claimed, it would be nice if he could comment on this, and given something more of an answer than just: "...well those are different devices and different OS". Who's really doing the unlocking? Is it Sprint is it Samsung? Why are there no tools to check this on the phone? Why the phone says "Invalid SIM" when it was "unlocked" while it should just refuse to connect to ATT and TMO while here in the US?
Well, I'm pretty sure those are the questions that we never get answers to...

Yea, I agree that it sucks the way things are right now and I wish it wasn't so. Hopefully, Samsung will continuebto be so successful that in the next round (S5), they too can give the middle finger to the carriers and end the unlocking lunacy.

Please explain to me how you got your iphone unlocked for domestic use. I got my old one unlocked by sprint did everything and still had to buy a rsim to use it in the states.
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Yea, I agree that it sucks the way things are right now and I wish it wasn't so. Hopefully, Samsung will continuebto be so successful that in the next round (S5), they too can give the middle finger to the carriers and end the unlocking lunacy.
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Yeah, I hope so too. For my Samsung Galaxy Discover (s730m) that I got because my Samsung Galaxy Q ( T589r ) has a cracked screen , I tried phoning Telus & Fido to get it unlocked..neither of them would do anything..if Samsung were to do this so that I could just ask Samsung, that'd be very great, and I'd be able to use my new phone. :/

I'll be nice so I won't call troll. TL;DR. If your intention was to run a phone on gsm, why would you buy a CDMA phone? As for bringing up the subject of why a iPhone is better in an android forum, what the hell are you doing here?! We don't care if you think iPhone is better! Go elsewhere and post to people that actually agree with your point of view. Sorry for being so blunt, I've had a few... Still, the few months I had an iPhone, before I had sprint buy it back because I hated the apple experience, I didn't go on apple forums and spout how android was so much better. I may have honestly shared my experience but I didn't do it in a way that rubbed smugness in other people's face. I'm sorry that I'm coming across like I'm flaming you but, in all reasonableness, this isn't the place to do it.

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I'll be nice so I won't call troll. TL;DR. If your intention was to run a phone on gsm, why would you buy a CDMA phone? As for bringing up the subject of why a iPhone is better in an android forum, what the hell are you doing here?! We don't care if you think iPhone is better! Go elsewhere and post to people that actually agree with your point of view. Sorry for being so blunt, I've had a few... Still, the few months I had an iPhone, before I had sprint buy it back because I hated the apple experience, I didn't go on apple forums and spout how android was so much better. I may have honestly shared my experience but I didn't do it in a way that rubbed smugness in other people's face. I'm sorry that I'm coming across like I'm flaming you but, in all reasonableness, this isn't the place to do it.
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Prob because he has nothing better to do other than play angry birds on that lil 4 inch screen, isn't that all its capable of?
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The title was intentionally provocative, because I'm really pissed with the way things going with sg4 sprint sim unlocking process. I'm not an iPhone user though, I have and use sg4, but I need to be able to use it on my trips overseas, this is why I bought it in the first place, because it is a world phone, or at least it is advertised as such. This was my attempt to analyze why this whole sim unlocking for sg4 is a outright failure.

obender said:
The title was intentionally provocative, because I'm really pissed with the way things going with sg4 sprint sim unlocking process. I'm not an iPhone user though, I have and use sg4, but I need to be able to use it on my trips overseas, this is why I bought it in the first place, because it is a world phone, or at least it is advertised as such. This was my attempt to analyze why this whole sim unlocking for sg4 is a outright failure.
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Two things then...
If you need it for overseas trips then what's all the hoopla about? Just get it unlocked by Sprint. Yes, at the beginning they had issues with the unlock because it is a brand new process they've never used before (and yes, unfortunately very unprepared for). But now supposedly it's fixed so chill.
It is not true that Sprint's iPhone unlocking process makes it usable on US GSM carriers.
Anyway, I am not sure why you claim that "the iPhone beats the S4 by a 1000 miles". Sprint gives you a method to unlock both phones for international use so that you don't have pay their exorbitant intl roaming rates. That seems fair to me and I don't see what obligation they (or even Samsung) have towards you as a Sprint subscriber beyond that. If you want a device that will work on one of Sprint's domestic competitors, go buy an unlock phone, or one from one of those carriers.

myphone12345 said:
It is not true that Sprint's iPhone unlocking process makes it usable on US GSM carriers.
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You obviously don't know the subject that well, it is true, I've unlocked my wife's iPhone and it works roams to ATT and TMO now with a _foreign_ SIM inserted, but you right, what I care is the outside US use and this is still an issue unfortunately.

obender said:
You obviously don't know the subject that well, it is true, I've unlocked my wife's iPhone and it works roams to ATT and TMO now with a _foreign_ SIM inserted, but you right, what I care is the outside US use and this is still an issue unfortunately.
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I'm in the same boat.
When I get back to the states I will be perma-roaming 24/7 in order to get the service termination letter.

ehaalandtluk said:
I'm in the same boat.
When I get back to the states I will be perma-roaming 24/7 in order to get the service termination letter.
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Are you saying that u unlocked with sprint and traveled overseas to only find your are screwed and can't use your sg4?
That's why I upgraded to be able to use when go to home country. Might look into htc.
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galexandr said:
Are you saying that u unlocked with sprint and traveled overseas to only find your are screwed and can't use your sg4?
That's why I upgraded to be able to use when go to home country. Might look into htc.
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Yes, precisely.
Nah, I don't want to buy another HTC phone after what they did with the EVO 3D. Samsung has a great phone, I just don't like sprint at all.