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insurance claim for lost vibrant

so my friend got a vibrant, and he wanted to file a claim for a lost phone to get one for his brother. as far as I know this is illegal. can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.

Insurnce fraud. He would go to jail most likely.
TMobile can track the missing phone using gps and cell towers. They'll see where the phone is and get it for him instead of giving him a new one.
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gonintendo said:
so my friend got a vibrant, and he wanted to file a claim for a lost phone to get one for his brother. as far as I know this is illegal. can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
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Well your friend is slightly dumb. First of all, the lost phone is blocked for life. Meaning if anyone ever tries to put a sim card in it, and use it, on any network, it won't work. It is permanently blocked from registering onto any network. So basically your friend is going to get 1 refurbished phone in the mail, and his new vibrant will be blacklisted for ever.
Next, if they find out about the fraud, well he can face fraud charges. If he is underage on a family plan, his parents will face fraud charges.
Good luck.

thanks guys!

Its cheaper to buy one from wal-mart than to file a claim (Wal-mart new two year contract is $98.99, asurion charges $130, not to mention you run the risk (more likely than not) you'd get caught.)

SamsungVibrant said:
Well your friend is slightly dumb. First of all, the lost phone is blocked for life. Meaning if anyone ever tries to put a sim card in it, and use it, on any network, it won't work. It is permanently blocked from registering onto any network. So basically your friend is going to get 1 refurbished phone in the mail, and his new vibrant will be blacklisted for ever.
Next, if they find out about the fraud, well he can face fraud charges. If he is underage on a family plan, his parents will face fraud charges.
Good luck.
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well i have to say this is a bunch of bs... i havent done this but known people that have and nothing happens to the other phone they work fine and they dont track you down or go on some sort of man hunt lol but if you say you lost your phone it would be best to not use it anymore get another phone and give the one you had to whoever as long as its not on your plan you should be good.
just so you know im not a fan of thieves but i believe in stealing from big companies cause they steal from people everyday so i would say its fair...

You can do whatever you wish. I found my g1 from a club. Used it for 2 years no prob. Its a gsm phone so whatever the case anyone can put a sim card and use it. How you do it as far as claiming to get a new one is your business
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tribalb said:
You can do whatever you wish. I found my g1 from a club. Used it for 2 years no prob. Its a gsm phone so whatever the case anyone can put a sim card and use it. How you do it as far as claiming to get a new one is your business
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lucky guy... i need to start going to clubs to look for phones lol

They will not blacklist it and they will not track it down.lol
Insurance don't deal with the phone company. You can claim online without ever speaking to anyone .
Also they do blacklist the sim but a new sim will work, this isn't cdma where ya need to call the phone company to activate a new bought phone, just put in your sim...
Hell who says ya can't lose it, then find it a week later, what you supposed to do send it back?
You pay the 130 you got 2 phones that work. My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....

gonintendo said:
can you guys give me some examples of things that might happen to him if he goes through with it or some possible consequences? "it's illegal" isn't seeming to convince him.
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Well, tell your friend that when he dies god is going to know he did it and will definitely be really pissed off and condemn him to spend all eternity in Pittsburgh with an incurable case of crabs on his nuts.
Seriously though, tell your friend to stop being shady and just man up and buy another phone if he wants it.
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smashpunks said:
They will not blacklist it and they will not track it down.lol
Insurance don't deal with the phone company. You can claim online without ever speaking to anyone .
Also they do blacklist the sim but a new sim will work, this isn't cdma where ya need to call the phone company to activate a new bought phone, just put in your sim...
Hell who says ya can't lose it, then find it a week later, what you supposed to do send it back?
You pay the 130 you got 2 phones that work. My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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actually you can say you still have your sim but not the phone and they will be like ok? and you get to keep your sim still lol

T-Mobile can and most likely will block the IMEI number from being able to register on the network. They've done it multiple times for my sister when she has had the phone stolen or lost. They can insert another SIM card all they want and it won't work. It might work on AT&T, I don't know if the companies share blacklisted IMEI numbers.
Most likely, they would not go through the process of prosecuting a fraud case on something like this because the cost of the lawyers and other legal fees outweigh the cost of just paying the claim but you never know.

hockeyrcks9901 said:
T-Mobile can and most likely will block the IMEI number from being able to register on the network. They've done it multiple times for my sister when she has had the phone stolen or lost. They can insert another SIM card all they want and it won't work. It might work on AT&T, I don't know if the companies share blacklisted IMEI numbers.
Most likely, they would not go through the process of prosecuting a fraud case on something like this because the cost of the lawyers and other legal fees outweigh the cost of just paying the claim but you never know.
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No they don't black list IMEIs.
Well your "friend" meaning you is a complete moron and hopefully you get caught. People like you are the reason insurance deductibles are so expensive.

skater4690 said:
well i have to say this is a bunch of bs... i havent done this but known people that have and nothing happens to the other phone they work fine and they dont track you down or go on some sort of man hunt lol but if you say you lost your phone it would be best to not use it anymore get another phone and give the one you had to whoever as long as its not on your plan you should be good.
just so you know im not a fan of thieves but i believe in stealing from big companies cause they steal from people everyday so i would say its fair...
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I never said they were going to track you down on a man hunt.
HOWEVER, they do deactivate your lost phone permanently. You can never use it on any network.

speoples20 said:
No they don't black list IMEIs.
Well your "friend" meaning you is a complete moron and hopefully you get caught. People like you are the reason insurance deductibles are so expensive.
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for your information, they do blacklist the phone from working. If you file a claim the phone was lost/stolen, the phone will be blacklisted and no longer work when you try to register on a network.

smashpunks said:
My wife just lost her tp2 and we asked if whoever found it can just put on a new card and its now there phone, dude said yup, we can stop the sim but the phone is gone....
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holly cow, you have a wife? with the comments you leave on here, I thought you were a 12 yr old.

they don't blacklist the IMEI because whoever finds it still has to have a service provider... its the same way with the iphone... Phone company is gonna get paid, regardless of whoever has the phone. I do think however that they lock the number associated with the simcard to prevent "fraudulent activities" i think its like 30 days i remember reading that at the tmobile website
google tmobile insurance replacement FAQs it lays it all out.
good luck, best to do it with a prepaid card so you don't lock a good number...
not that i would ever condone such behavior

Soooo not true.
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I've been in the cell industry for the last 6 years and can tell you for a fact, with GSM phones they do not blacklist or lock IMEI's. Its not even possible. The only thing they might do is see if you are stupid enough to use the lost phone on your own plan.

SamsungVibrant said:
holly cow, you have a wife? with the comments you leave on here, I thought you were a 12 yr old.
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I think I have a fan. Follow me on twitter douche bag...
And I'm the 12 year old sounding one.lol.

Help getting unlock code?

Hi all,
I made a rookie mistake and ordered a locked T-Mobile HD2 from ebay (wasn't paying attention).
I live in Canada, so unfortunately that rules out the option of trying to get an unlock code from T-Mobile. Can anybody guide me towards the cheapest option to getting this phone unlocked? I should be receiving it early next week... I can't believe I just blew almost $400 on a phone without noticing that it's locked
Thanks in advance,
Faruk

Means you also won't get 3G on Rogers either...but I digress, http://www.htcsimunlock.com is where I got mine. 16USD and about 20 minutes later my Tmo Leo is unlocked. Easy to use, just insert the new SIM or hit up \Windows\simlock.exe and enter your code.

Hey thanks for the reply man! I was actually starting to get pretty worried, I did some searching beforehand and all I could find were people who were having trouble unlocking theirs!
And I'm actually on Wind Mobile (not Rogers), so the T-Mobile version (1700MHz 3G) was actually exactly what I was looking for.

Nice! Let me know how that works out, i've got a friend in Canada on Wind aswell who is super jealous of my HD2, and if it works as expected, then he might be getting a pretty sweet Christmas present....

ashasaur said:
Nice! Let me know how that works out, i've got a friend in Canada on Wind aswell who is super jealous of my HD2, and if it works as expected, then he might be getting a pretty sweet Christmas present....
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I would not be too quick in getting him it for Wind. They may not be around much longer.. time will tell..

Don't listen to Rockjock, I know him from another forum... His part- (or full?) time job is to scare people about Wind... He must be employed by Rogers.
Anyway, if Wind (new entrant) does lose against the incumbents, they will probably get bought out by Rogers. It's not like the network will vanish into thin air.
But anyway, that's totally off-topic. Go find another thread to troll, "Rockjock".

Faruk88 said:
Don't listen to Rockjock, I know him from another forum... His part- (or full?) time job is to scare people about Wind... He must be employed by Rogers.
Anyway, if Wind (new entrant) does lose against the incumbents, they will probably get bought out by Rogers. It's not like the network will vanish into thin air.
But anyway, that's totally off-topic. Go find another thread to troll, "Rockjock".
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I was just stating a fact. So please take off your wind cape and discuss it. The OP was asking about using a high end handset on Wind. All I said was perhaps they should wait to see if Wind stays afloat. You are right Wind could be bought up and the network would not go to waste but you failed to mention that all the equipment is owned by Orascom and as such they are simply permitted to take back all the roof top units. The spectrum debt is what Rogers could buy from Orascom. Speaking of which any validity to the comment that calls are being routed to Egypt for customer service issues? Seems that Orascom is taking a more active role..
Also i must say the " he must work for rogers " line is getting a tad tired.
sorry for the hijack but I think it was needed to be explained. if not Mods pls delete.

Faruk88 said:
Anyway, if Wind (new entrant) does lose against the incumbents, they will probably get bought out by Rogers. It's not like the network will vanish into thin air.
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I agree. Even if they end up filing for Bankruptcy (is that a business option in Canada?), their hardware and towers will remain, meaning that someone will own them and use them rather than tear them down.
We've seen a lot of wireless companies come and go down in the States and I have yet to speak to a single person who lost their service as a result. My friend in Arkansas has actually been shunted around by the AT&T->Cingular->att circle several times and never lost service.

Snarksneeze said:
I agree. Even if they end up filing for Bankruptcy (is that a business option in Canada?), their hardware and towers will remain, meaning that someone will own them and use them rather than tear them down.
We've seen a lot of wireless companies come and go down in the States and I have yet to speak to a single person who lost their service as a result. My friend in Arkansas has actually been shunted around by the AT&T->Cingular->att circle several times and never lost service.
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Thats true, but thats only if the company that goes under owns the equipment they do not. Simply put Rogers could only buy the debt, as the equipment is owned by the only Investor. So once the equipment is taken back Wind could enjoy seamless coast to coast coverage on a 2g network.

Anyway, back to topic.
Yesterday I unlocked my T-Mobile HD2 at unlock-now.com. The phone is new one, IMEI starts from 35777. I took 10 minutes and 17.5 euros by Paypal.
I'm not linked to this service at all, just want to inform it's worked for me. Going to try htcsimunlock.com a bit later.

Uh, I have made the same mistake.
Did not realize that there was a difference until now
Does this mean that I will not get 3G, as I live in Europe?

Yes it does. You have to use the device meant for your region in order to get 3G with it.

Oh No!: Lost my HD2 :-(

The reign of my HD2 is over.....I loved this phone....all the rom testing and such, are now memories/knowledge
Well......was my birthday weekend and maybe went a little overboard.
I lost my HD2
But already within the few months i've had it...I already cracked the screen, and thankfully I didn't send it in to get the screen repaired...because now i've lost it.
I think I am going to try and get an Incredible S (ohhhh, ahh) now....
This time, I will be getting screen protectors, cases, GPS tracking app....because I can't spend..er..waste this much money again for another phone!! lol :-(

matrx10503 said:
The reign of my HD2 is over.....I loved this phone....all the rom testing and such, are now memories/knowledge
Well......was my birthday weekend and maybe went a little overboard.
I lost my HD2
But already within the few months i've had it...I already cracked the screen, and thankfully I didn't send it in to get the screen repaired...because now i've lost it.
I think I am going to try and get an Incredible S (ohhhh, ahh) now....
This time, I will be getting screen protectors, cases, GPS tracking app....because I can't spend..er..waste this much money again for another phone!! lol :-(
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You didn't have lookout installed on your Android ROM by any chance did you?

I tried remote install Plan B......but just my luck my battery was dead :-/

if you still have the box or you know the imei, better call your network provider / customer service. you can have the phone locked / blocked from ever being used. tke note that the network provider may not necessarily be the one to lock your phone. at least that's how it is here in melbourne. i had to call a different number / customer service to request for my imei to be blocked when i lost my touch pro 2. cheers

Robson said:
if you still have the box or you know the imei, better call your network provider / customer service. you can have the phone locked / blocked from ever being used. tke note that the network provider may not necessarily be the one to lock your phone. at least that's how it is here in melbourne. i had to call a different number / customer service to request for my imei to be blocked when i lost my touch pro 2. cheers
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They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.

As sort of "bait".....I have left the phone on and I have been monitoring the usage. The phone has not been used at all.
My general thinking was I wanted someone to find the phone and turn it on, so Plan B could install and push me the location.
I honestly believe....if it has/had been found....because it was dead and cracked, the person probably threw it away thinking it had been run over by car or something and "doesn't work" by the appearance

orangekid said:
They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.
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ah, really? didn't know that, thanks mate. just out of curiousity and pardon my ignorance, why can't imei be blocked in the us? does it have to do with the carriers themselves? cheers

if you have give nthe comand to remote install plan b then ass soon as someone turns on your ophone(if by chance) you can get the location

matrx10503 said:
As sort of "bait".....I have left the phone on and I have been monitoring the usage. The phone has not been used at all.
My general thinking was I wanted someone to find the phone and turn it on, so Plan B could install and push me the location.
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siddharth singh said:
if you have give nthe comand to remote install plan b then ass soon as someone turns on your ophone(if by chance) you can get the location
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..........

Well...I just ordered an Inspire 4G.....Not exactly the Incredible S I wanted, I still want it....but probably not wise since a billion phones will be coming out, with dual core and all that
But I really don't care about the hype of the new phones that will be coming out soon.....my HD2 was good enough for me
The phone is STILL yet to be used.....so either thrown away or left in a car under seat or something. IDK IDK IDK
So I guess im off to learning a new phone..:-/..all the quirks, installation steps, roms, etc. for the Inspire

Doesn't matter, as long as it's something you want. Dual core isn't everyone's cup of tea anyways. Plus they're hell of expensive, enough to buy you a capable/good lappy. Have fun with your new phone. :3

orangekid said:
They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.
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T-Mobile is starting this feature in June, from what I have read.

[Q] Xperia Play (Verizon) Bad ESN to metro pcs

Hey guys im a newb and was wondering if i can flash my bad esn x play to metro pcs? I cant afford Verizon anymore so they gave me a bad esn and metro has the 40$ unlimited everything
So if you guys can help me out this is much appreciated i love this phone and don't want to give it away yet.

Just get your sim unlocked and change the APN settings
Edit: unsure if a bad esn can be fixed by unlocking.. You'll have to ask someone who deals with sim unlocks
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rawrrzombie12 said:
Hey guys im a newb and was wondering if i can flash my bad esn x play to metro pcs? I cant afford Verizon anymore so they gave me a bad esn and metro has the 40$ unlimited everything
So if you guys can help me out this is much appreciated i love this phone and don't want to give it away yet.
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The only reason your phone will have a bad ESN is if either it's stolen or you haven't paid your bill, either way the phone is not yours. Thats why your carrier has blacklisted the ESN. Basically you are asking people to help you steal the phone.

you would have to change ESN which is... well, quite impossible...
Send frm my Play with coustum kernals

AndroHero said:
The only reason your phone will have a bad ESN is if either it's stolen or you haven't paid your bill, either way the phone is not yours. Thats why your carrier has blacklisted the ESN. Basically you are asking people to help you steal the phone.
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i didn't steal the phone i couldn't afford the plan i was one so they cut my phone off that's what i meant. i guess ill just take it and see if it will work

rawrrzombie12 said:
i didn't steal the phone i couldn't afford the plan i was one so they cut my phone off that's what i meant. i guess ill just take it and see if it will work
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The problem is you said in your post twice, they gave you a bad ESN. Well what did you mean by that, because the only reason they would do that is if you owe them money. Or were you just mistaken? If you go elsewhere with a "bad" or blocked ESN its not going to work.

Rogue Leader said:
The problem is you said in your post twice, they gave you a bad ESN. Well what did you mean by that, because the only reason they would do that is if you owe them money. Or were you just mistaken? If you go elsewhere with a "bad" or blocked ESN its not going to work.
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Doesn't mean he stole it. Could have been locked into a bad contract
Some people like myself buy them off ebay with bad esn
What happens is all these reneged accounts are lying around eligible for upgrades
some one will come in and get all the brand new phones unopened and sell them online for big profit.
It's 100% your property if you buy it from a 3rd party.
The bad ESN part is bad because then all the towers will block your phone
so you cant use 40$ pre-pay service because they are leasing the towers from big company like verizon and such

Rogue Leader said:
The problem is you said in your post twice, they gave you a bad ESN. Well what did you mean by that, because the only reason they would do that is if you owe them money. Or were you just mistaken? If you go elsewhere with a "bad" or blocked ESN its not going to work.
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You can flash any phone with a bad esn to another provider, if you have the proper software.

captain67 said:
Just get your sim unlocked and change the APN settings
Edit: unsure if a bad esn can be fixed by unlocking.. You'll have to ask someone who deals with sim unlocks
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AndroHero said:
The only reason your phone will have a bad ESN is if either it's stolen or you haven't paid your bill, either way the phone is not yours. Thats why your carrier has blacklisted the ESN. Basically you are asking people to help you steal the phone.
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Blagus said:
you would have to change ESN which is... well, quite impossible...
Send frm my Play with coustum kernals
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Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. READ people. SIM card on CDMA? Why list the reason when he told you the reason out-right (can't afford it; obviously under contract)? "Impossible" to do something which is done every day? Jeeze. If you don't know the answer or what you are talking about WHY do you feel compelled to answer the man?

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Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. READ people. SIM card on CDMA? Why list the reason when he told you the reason out-right (can't afford it; obviously under contract)? "Impossible" to do something which is done every day? Jeeze. If you don't know the answer or what you are talking about WHY do you feel compelled to answer the man?
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Exactly "can't afford verizon" that means he didnt pay the bill, so the phone was cut off, he does not own the phone because he invalidated his contract, and thus the phone is stolen.
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AndroHero said:
Exactly "can't afford verizon" that means he didnt pay the bill, so the phone was cut off, he does not own the phone because he invalidated his contract, and thus the phone is stolen.
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I don't know how things are done there, but actually that's technically and legally wrong here in the USA. The phone is rebated and paid for at the time the contract is signed. The SERVICE CONTRACT is the only remaining obligation. The contract comes with terms and stipulations stating that they will require payment of an ETF (Early Termination Fee) if he does not carry the contract to full term and that they will ban the ESN if he does not pay that. It does not state that the phone remains or reverts to being their property.
For consumer protections reasons, there are other "outs" in the contract and you are not required to send the phone back because it is YOURS nor are you required to pay ETFs. For example, the FCC does not want local monopolies to keep you living in an area they serve just because you have a contract with a provider there that doesn't exist elsewhere. For example, if I wanted to move to North Dakota and there was no Sprint coverage in the town I was moving to, I can move there and keep my phone and end my contract and legally dodge the ETF. If I ever activate it with that provider again, they can require me to resume my contract.
Simple.

CZroe said:
I don't know how things are done there, but actually that's technically and legally wrong here in the USA. The phone is rebated at the time the contract is signed. The SERVICE CONTRACT is the only remaining obligation. The contract comes with terms and stipulations stating that they will require payment of an ETF (Early Termination Fee) if he does not carry the contract to full term and that they will ban the ESN if he does not pay that. It does not state that the phone remains or reverts to being their property.
For consumer protections reasons, there are other "outs" in the contract and you are not required to send the phone back because it is YOURS. For example, the FCC does not want local monopolies to keep you living in an area they server just because you have a contract with a provider there that doesn't exist elsewhere. For example, if I wanted to move to North Dakota and there was no Sprint coverage in the town I was moving to, I can move there and keep my phone and end my contract and legally dodge the ETF. If I ever activate it with that provider again, they can require me to resume my contract.
Simple.
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Hooray America! (another example of an it is you can suspend/cancel your contact without an ETF if you getting deployed overseas (military))
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Flipping through the thread and damn some people are f ing unbelievable. Your really going to call the guys phone stolen because he couldnt pay the bill? Are you kidding me? Pretty sure the 250 dollar early termination fee that will be tacked on to a final bill will pretty much cover the cost of the phone.. Its amazing how people can be so argumentative for no reason. The guy had a simple question, he didnt ask for a moral judgement. The answer to your question is YES you can have it flashed to metro.

AndroHero said:
Exactly "can't afford verizon" that means he didnt pay the bill, so the phone was cut off, he does not own the phone because he invalidated his contract, and thus the phone is stolen.
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Why did you even waste energy and burn a single calorie to type on this thread if you weren't going to contribute to the question asked. I'm sick of arse holes that want to play phone police on an internet forum. You don't know if he paid his termination fee or made conditions with Verizon. Personally I think its none of your business or any body else. So the point of the matter is Metro hooks up a lot of phones from other carriers such as Verizon legally in the US. Trust me America being the forefront of lawsuits would have sued the breaks off of Metro PCS if it wasn't. Do not post if you don't have anything intelectual or contributing please.

R800x Carrier Pigeon - Got any change?
Before I get into the nitty gritty, yes, ive seached the forum. yes ive seached the google. yes, afaik im using the right software (cdma-w, qpst, QXDM, even that dfs cdma tool).
The Xperia Play (R800x - Verizon) is an amazing phone first of all. If only it could make calls...
Here is the problem im having: I can write min, nam, PRL, etc, most NV items to the phone just fine. but when i try to repair the esn/meid i get back an error which, though slightly different depending on the software, amounts to a statement that the value is read-only or failed to write. I have some past success with this sort of thing on other platforms (Moto Razr for ex.)but im at a loss here, and ready to accept any help offered. I read somewhere that an unlocked BL is req. but that doesnt make sense to me.
Also ive noticed that the older version of cdmaw (2.7) doesn't seem to read or write meid values, only esn, from what ive read, its like frank sinatra said, you cant have one without the other.
So my questions: has anyone else run into this problem? Is it related to the bootloader or ROM in any way? Suggestions etc Please and Thank you
Yes im a n00b. yes im ok with that. there is always some1 who knows more about something than I do. Teach me to fish so i can share my fish

freddycheeba said:
Before I get into the nitty gritty, yes, ive seached the forum. yes ive seached the google. (btw, the flash-to-MetroPCS page seems to have vanished from the internets..)yes, afaik im using the right software (cdma-w, qpst, QXDM, even that dfs cdma tool).
The Xperia Play (R800x - V3r1$0N) is an amazing phone first of all. If only it could make calls...
With every intention of avoiding starting a legal debate, here is the problem im having: I can write min, nam, PRL, etc, most NV items to the phone just fine. but when i try to .repair. the 3$n or M31D i get back an error which, though slightly different depending on the software, amounts to a statement that the value is read-only or failed to write. i may have some past success with this sort of thing on other platforms (Moto Razr for ex.)-allegedly, and im by no means stumped or ready to give up, but im ready to accept any help offered. I read somewhere that an unlocked BL is req. but that doesnt make sense to me.
Also ive noticed that the older version of cdmaw (2.7) which may or may not be available from the common sources, doesn't seem to read or write m31d values, only 3$n, from what ive read, its like frank sinatra said, you cant have one without the other.
So my questions: has anyone else run into this problem? Is it related to the bootloader or ROM in any way? Suggestions etc Please and Thank you
Yes im a n00b. yes im ok with that. there is always some1 who knows more about something than I do. Teach me to fish
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Couple things:
1. "hacker speak" like saying 3$n and m31D is tremendously annoying. I have no idea why you felt the need to do that. Actual intelligent humans like you will find here think you sound like an idiot when you type like that. Speak English, its what we speak.
2. I don't believe anyone has successfully done with this phone what you're trying to do AFAIK. There are people who can unlock the bootloader for you, but I agree I doubt that would help, but hey who knows.
3. That said, you threw gas on the fire even mentioning legal issues. I'm not gonna make any assumptions about why you have a bad ESN phone a I don't know where you got it, but as you can see its a touchy subject here. Mainly because carriers don't just blacklist ESNs for no reason or on a whim.
Anyway whatever your reasons, good luck, I don't know that you will find an answer here, but maybe someone who does know can help you.

Touchy subject
My Esn is clear, but i already have service with another cdma provider- one who has very limited choices as far as phones go. I have no intention of trying to rip off my carrier for my data use or anything like that, i just want to make calls on my current network, using my R800x.
I wrote 3$n because some places will delete your post or even ban you just for mentioning the word, which is silly since all we're trying to do is exchange some theoretical knowledge.
Anyway thanks for your response RogueLeader.

freddycheeba said:
My Esn is clear, but i already have service with another cdma provider- one who has very limited choices as far as phones go. I have no intention of trying to rip off my carrier for my data use or anything like that, i just want to make calls on my current network, using my R800x.
I wrote 3$n because some places will delete your post or even ban you just for mentioning the word, which is silly since all we're trying to do is exchange some theoretical knowledge.
Anyway thanks for your response RogueLeader.
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So your carrier just plain won't accept your Xperia Play's ESN, so you're trying to swap on one from another phone? Good plan, but like I said it seems like something thats not likely possible (or hey maybe it is and just no one's done it yet). I'd be interested to hear if this works out. Also pretty ridiculous if its true that they just won't take it, but then again Verizon won't accept non Verizon cdma phones as far as I know, but we expect them to suck.
As for this place its pretty heavily monitored, so if your post goes somewhere they don't want, it doesn't matter what words you use they will delete it for you ..

Waka Flocka FLAME!
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Bad esn for whatever reason, it's still a bad esn. Metro does have the power and tools to flash SOME phones to their network. BUT a lot of these phones will not be fully functional, whether it's the internet or mms, etc. but here's the thing, we here are not metro pcs, we are consumers, ask metro, if they don't have an answer we will more than likely not have one either.
you will just piss some people off with your poor search and investigative skills.
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xt2 att

Hi everyone. I have a question that pertains to my att servjce and a unregistered imei . So i traded a friend of mine an iphone 5 for his XT2. AT&T. He has cricket and had no problems with the phone or the. service . I however have att and about 6 hours after getting the phone and putting my sim card in it att shuts off my line. Turns out the phone was never rang up at the register. So the imei os unregistered i guess? Is there any way at all i can get past this and use my phone. Via settings database editor. Xposed apps or mods. Anything??!!?

aaronisham95 said:
Hi everyone. I have a question that pertains to my att servjce and a unregistered imei . So i traded a friend of mine an iphone 5 for his XT2. AT&T. He has cricket and had no problems with the phone or the. service . I however have att and about 6 hours after getting the phone and putting my sim card in it att shuts off my line. Turns out the phone was never rang up at the register. So the imei os unregistered i guess? Is there any way at all i can get past this and use my phone. Via settings database editor. Xposed apps or mods. Anything??!!?
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Probably not what you want to hear but...
There is an entire conversation in the XT2 SD thread that discusses this very issue. you will need the original receipt to prove you/your friend purchased the phone to show at&t and they will remove the phone from blacklist, i have not read any other info pertaining to a workaround.
Maybe someone else have some additional incite.
Good luck,

m0000 said:
Probably not what you want to hear but...
There is an entire conversation in the XT2 SD thread that discusses this very issue. you will need the original receipt to prove you/your friend purchased the phone to show at&t and they will remove the phone from blacklist, i have not read any other info pertaining to a workaround.
Maybe someone else have some additional incite.
Good luck,
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thats what at&t was saying as well. but i am sure there has got to be a way. people end up with phones that have bad imei's all the time.. i understand this is a slightly situation because the phone was assumingly never purchased from the store.. but not really. either way the point is to get it to where atts systems cannot detect that i am using this phone... so i assume there has to be a solution.
maybe im wrong in believing people can get past bad imei's. thank you tho.. hopefully your wrong i hate iphones so i traded a 6s for this
thanks again.

aaronisham95 said:
thats what at&t was saying as well. but i am sure there has got to be a way. people end up with phones that have bad imei's all the time.. i understand this is a slightly situation because the phone was assumingly never purchased from the store.. but not really. either way the point is to get it to where atts systems cannot detect that i am using this phone... so i assume there has to be a solution.
maybe im wrong in believing people can get past bad imei's. thank you tho.. hopefully your wrong i hate iphones so i traded a 6s for this
thanks again.
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easiest solution go to Walmart buy an xt2 ($69)
sell the one you have to a cricket customer
If you really can't afford the $69 you could return the bad phone to Walmart for a refund (it's actually their fault the IMEI is not registered)
it's not the most honest thing to do, but it would work.

Wow your right. The people at at&t were talking toe like i stole it from walmart or something. They had my phone line completely
suspended

aaronisham95 said:
Wow your right. The people at at&t were talking toe like i stole it from walmart or something. They had my phone line completely
suspended
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I had the same problem a year or so ago with the H1611, I got it online and it was never correctly rang out.

Yeah. I disabled everything att related and removed all the permissions and its been two whole days. Im pretty sure if they could read the imei my service wouldve already been suspended again. Ill remove this now.