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Android 2.1 Update for HTC hero is postponed to April

http://www.i-newswire.com/htc-hero-to-get-android-2-1-update/26667 --> Says that the much awaited 2.1 update for HTC Hero is postponed to the month of April.. :-(
Please some one say this is wrong.. I m hitting their support site thrice a day.. (UK, Orange)

Makes sense with the impending release of the legend and with the fact that even the milestone has not yet had its 2.1 update.
The wait continues.
Edit: that article is just stupid anyway read the last paragraph....

Lennyuk said:
Makes sense with the impending release of the legend and with the fact that even the milestone has not yet had its 2.1 update.
The wait continues.
Edit: that article is just stupid anyway read the last paragraph....
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hehe Nexus One is a HTC device so "never buying HTC devices again" but "Buying Nexus One" is kinda stupid
Although I must say, I would prefer Nexus One over the Desire just because I know Google will "always" make sure it'll get new software updates and the Desire updates will be postponed just like the Hero ones due to business agreements and SenseUI issues and more...

I have been using Legends n Eris's ROMS ported onto Hero, so far.. But all that I want is a stable 2.1 ROM from HTC.. Instead of releasing new phones like Legend (Which is just a metal upgrade for HTC Hero + 1GHz proc) they should have concentrated on releasing update for Hero which has a large customer base. And I even read somewhere that Both Sprint Hero n GSM Hero have won awards in their respective categories.. This aint happening..

harsha_aithal said:
http://www.i-newswire.com/htc-hero-to-get-android-2-1-update/26667 --> Says that the much awaited 2.1 update for HTC Hero is postponed to the month of April.. :-(
Please some one say this is wrong.. I m hitting their support site thrice a day.. (UK, Orange)
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This isn't a press release - it's rumour and supposition, the same as all the rumour threads on this site.
It may well be that the update doesn't come until April, but this poorly written article isn't an official HTC missive and therefore should be treated as hearsay at best and a fabrication at worst.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
This isn't a press release - it's rumour and supposition, the same as all the rumour threads on this site.
It may well be that the update doesn't come until April, but this poorly written article isn't an official HTC missive and therefore should be treated as hearsay at best and a fabrication at worst.
Regards,
Dave
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5903911#post5903911 -- This includes the official reply from HTC Customer Care person, who has clearly stated that updates are to be expected in Late April.
To get more on this, I myself has drafted a mail to HTC CC.. will post their reply once they come back to me.

Don´t bother, the shipped rom works wery well and with no MMS/GPS/Sound/ problems!
Read all the problems with coked rom´s on the net!!!
So I´m running on v1.5 until HTC release v2.1

waiting ?
Thank you HTC for 6 mounth waiting for nothing... Good hardware and diminished support!
Thank you for all Developers, for your time, your investment and your creativity.
Sorry for my english...

leffep said:
Don´t bother, the shipped rom works wery well and with no MMS/GPS/Sound/ problems!
Read all the problems with coked rom´s on the net!!!
So I´m running on v1.5 until HTC release v2.1
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Thats your opinion, I am very happy running the custom 2.1 rom that I currently am and it has no issues at all (at least not for me)

Lennyuk said:
Thats your opinion, I am very happy running the custom 2.1 rom that I currently am and it has no issues at all (at least not for me)
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I agree that the custom 2.1 ROM give us lot of options. Full credits to all developers. But I just didn find a stable ROM yet.. :-(

Latest reply from HTC Customer Care regarding 2.1 Update for HTC Hero
New Response From [ Anthony (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear Customer,
We understand that now that a phone running Android OS 2.1 is available that you are excited to get an update for your Hero. We are still hard at work building Sense for this new version but we expect to have the upgrade finished and ready to go soon. Please understand that it takes time to customize any Android version to ensure you have the intuitive experience Sense provides, and we hope you can be patient for just a little while longer.
Kind Regards,
Anthony M
HTC
Customer Information
Name Harsha S
Telephone +91 9176665288
Email Address [email protected]
Country United Kingdom
Inquiry Information
Inquiry Type Technical Support
Inquiry Description Hi, I have been waiting for Android 2.1 Update for my HTC Hero from last 3 months. All that I have got is news of update being getting postponed. Recent one told me that the update is coming in "LATE APRIL". :-( Harsha S
Issue Date & Time
2010/03/17 10:05

I think that HTC should schedule two differents update for each android device, one with clean android OS and optimized drivers focused on specific hardware, and one with optimized senseUI and others HTC customizations... in that case, it could follow OS upgrade very fast and satisfy who want to be updated with OS, and then take all required time to optimize and develop custom UI...
anyway... it is exciting to test and try custom 2.1 roms and the developers here at xda are doing a great work!
but it is also frustrating to wait for HTC official update!

Yeah getting access to a new kernal would be nice

Is this update so important???
We can flash HERO with a good working port rom and we have 2.1
I do not see the problem haha

160bpm said:
Is this update so important???
We can flash HERO with a good working port rom and we have 2.1
I do not see the problem haha
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Sure we have some nice 2.1 roms at the moment but they are inherently buggy with things that will definitely be fixed when we can lay our hands on an official rom things like battery life and 3d graphics.

harsha_aithal said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5903911#post5903911 -- This includes the official reply from HTC Customer Care person, who has clearly stated that updates are to be expected in Late April.
To get more on this, I myself has drafted a mail to HTC CC.. will post their reply once they come back to me.
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I've seen that too! I've seen all the threads, and not one of them has an "official" date in it.
The simple fact of the matter is that HTC customer care do not have a clue. Take anything you read as coming from them with a large pinch of salt.
Regardless, this doesn't change the fact that the "press release" you linked to is clearly not an official HTC statement.
Regards,
dave

What!?
Ok so this has pi**ed me off. I have been waiting for the 2.1 official update to be released now for a LONG time - the issue really is that it was "meant" to come around about now (mid March). It's the fact that it's seeming been pushed back and now artificially put on hold because they don't want to affect the freaking Leg-end. I'd much rather they just announced the update wil be available on a specific date - 23rd July for e.g. and then if it's early its a bonus. They must be aware/accept that Android users are going to be more tech-savvy than most and will therefore not appreciate being jerked around and left in the lurch while users of other Android handsets have 2.1 already and have for a while now = no real technical reason for the delay as far as I'm concerned.
Having said all the above - what do HTC care? If someone from HTC reads these forums then the above is my 2 cents and I think they would create a lot of GOODwill instead of resentment if they were more transparent with their customers. I'm seriously doubting whether to buy HTC or HTC made again because I *like* to be up-to-date with functionalities etc. A platform like Android was *made* to be upgradeable and improved upon and this is a clear case of HTC's beuracracy getting in the way of their customer service. They don't have to do jack sh*t for their customers though because of course once you've bought a phone you're usually locked in - but they sure as hell could learn a thing or two about engendering customer appreciation and loyalty.
So there will be people out there who think "What's the problem?! Your phone runs fine!" Well if you're asking that question then you're probably not reading this forum in the first place because then why would you have any interest in phone OS development and all the joys it brings.
I hope this report is wrong. I hope the ROM comes very soon because I guarantee HTC (not that they care) that delaying it much longer will do quite a lot to put people off their SenseUI phones and HTC in general. Apple is due to release 4.0 soon and Microsoft is about to unleash Winmo7 series so it's not like there's a lack of competition.
You all know what i MEAN - even if i didn't say it right!
I haven't yet found a single 2.1 rom that is stable enough to use daily and that includes my respect and reverence for the talent and hard work that goes into making these cooked roms.
Ola!

harsha_aithal said:
New Response From [ Anthony (UK - Ireland Support (Tech)) ]
Dear Customer,
We understand that now that a phone running Android OS 2.1 is available that you are excited to get an update for your Hero. We are still hard at work building Sense for this new version but we expect to have the upgrade finished and ready to go soon. Please understand that it takes time to customize any Android version to ensure you have the intuitive experience Sense provides, and we hope you can be patient for just a little while longer.
Kind Regards,
Anthony M
HTC
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OT: Handy tip! You *really* want to edit that post to remove your personal information!
Canned reply that we've seen before! This just goes to prove what I just said about the HTC CC staff.
We are still hard at work building Sense for this new version
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Except for the fact that the Legend and the Desire *prove* that Sense for 2.1 is already complete! Even if you can't buy one off the shelf today, if they are going to be available at the end of this month, they are already built, boxed, and probably with retailers right now.
Regards,
Dave

Unless they need to make some changes for the hero that we haven't considered?
Can't think what though

What's wrong with 1.5?
Why is everyone so desperate to get 2.1 on their Hero. The 1.5 ROM works very well for me anyway and I don't have any battery or any other problems.
I've tried all the various 2.1 ROMs on this board and while they are very well done I haven't found any to have the battery life of 1.5 so have always reverted back to the shipped ROM.
Now if 1.5 was full of bugs then I could understand all the fuss. As it's not - I can't.
Don't get me wrong I shall upgrade to 2.1 as soon as it's released I just can't understand the rush.
Is there some "must have" facility that I'm missing on the 2.1 ROM?

HTC Wildfire or the new Tattoo

Here is the link for the new HTC Wildfire.
It has the same processor as the Tattoo and also features a qvga resolution screen but thats where the similarities end, everything else has been upgraded.
I suspect this pretty much confirms that we wont be seeing any 2.1 update coming from HTC for the Tattoo.

Thanks for the info. This seems do be a nice phone - Android 2.1 and Autofocus...
If i can sell my tattoo for the same price i has to pay for the wildfire i would change. Maybe a 2.1 ROM for the tattoo could be build if the Wildfire is out and the ROM will reengeneered.

let's all hope this just means that android 2.1 + sense is now ready for 320x240 and that we'll be receiving an update as well!
*edit*
sent an email to HTC asking about this

ThaRabbit said:
let's all hope this just means that android 2.1 + sense is now ready for 320x240 and that we'll be receiving an update as well!
*edit*
sent an email to HTC asking about this
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have you had a reply yet?

it will be the same answer like the other replies from HTC: An Upgrade for the Tattoo is not planned and so on...I'm eager to see if FroYo can be an OS we can also use...

jporch316 said:
have you had a reply yet?
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I have, yes:
Dear sir/madam, Thank you for contacting us. In regard to your HTC Tattoo about the upcoming Android 2.1 upgrade, I will help you with that. De Android 2.1 will be release in the month of June 2010 and there is no official confirmation which if the HTC Tattoo will received the android 2.1 upgrade. I will advise to keep a close look on the htc website for more information I trust that this resolve's your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required. Thank you for contacting HTC.
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"upcoming" and "no official confirmation" do offer some space for hope, but considering that the hero has its upgrade confirmed... We might just have to be happy that we have 1.6, not 1.5.

last Day of June ?
HTC will not release 2.x for Tattoo.

question about Android 2.2 (FROYO)

Will we Legend get Android 2.2 (Froyo) update?
Here are the platform highlights. very good improvements
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
Latest news from HTC (thanks to Iryia ) :
Iryia said:
Hi guys,
I just received a reply from HTC..
"Good Morning Thank you for contacting HTC At the moment we dont have official date of the relase for the new update but it is suitable for your device and soon or later it will be relased for Legend Regards Piotr HTC "
At least some good news..
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Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...

c_man said:
Yes, we will, its just a question of when!
HTC will have to apply their 'modifications' to it, i.e. Sense.
Then if yours is network branded, you have to wait until your network make it available to you, after they've made their changes!
Unless of course you've rooted, which case you should be able to apply a fresh ROM whenever it is made available.
I believe the above is correct, am sure someone will correct me if needed.
What I'm wondering is will FROYO make a different to the speed of the Legend? There are many reports online about how FROYO will make the Nexus One and Desire up to 300% faster due to the JIT Compiler (and other stuff?) ...but is this potential speed benefit applicable to the Legend?
I really really hope so...
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HTC LEGEND is not getting 2.2 Update in 2010.
Source -->>URL product-reviews.net/2010/05/21/android-2-2-froyo-no-update-to-htc-hero-legend-and-droid-eris-phones
Following on from our previous article, which informed you about HTC’s plans to update their smartphones to the latest version of Android OS (2.2 Froyo), it seems that HTC deliberately left a few handset names off their initial upgrade list.
HTC issued a fresh statement, in which they detailed a few handsets that will be receiving the update to Android 2.2 first. These included the HTC Incredible, MyTouch 3G, HTC Desire and the HTC EVO 4G smartphone.
Does this mean that handsets such as the HTC Hero, Legend and Droid Eris will not be getting the update to 2.2 Froyo? We can understand the Hero and Droid Eris not being included on the list, since they were released a while ago now, but what about the HTC Legend?
The Legend was available after the HTC Desire, so it seems slightly odd that the statement from HTC didn’t include the handset on the list. Maybe it was just a bad choice of wording. Hopefully HTC will clear this up for us soon – we’ll update you when we can.

"zabaknilesh "
HTC Legend probably get Android 2.2 (FROYO) update because is launched this year,see here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010

I really hope it does get updated, the whole reason I upgraded to legend and not desire was A. the industrial design of the phone, and B. sick of waiting around for 2.1 GSM hero update so gave the hero to GF.
Even after this statement im seeing a pattern here with HTC not clearly being able to state weather or not brand new phones will receive an update, or hell even when (2nd half of 2010 can mean December). If it does turn out our Legends dont get 2.2 I'm gonna stick with vanilla android experience on an unlocked N1, or hopefully N2.

I dont think that HTC will update Legend to 2.2.
Considering its RAM and processor Legend is behind from N1 and Desire or incredible.
Even i have Legend and its utterly dissapointing from the side of HTC to ignore such a high profile handset from new update.I ll never buy any handset from HTC now onwards.
F*** u HTC......

Froyo for Legend
I bought the legend some time ago. It would be a major dissappointment if HTC doesn`t create an update for it...let`s be realistic the amount of work they have to do once they change stuff to work on the Desire should be fairly minimal. Also I don`t think that the HW of Legend is not good enough to run Froyo (from what I`ve heart all devices should see a performance boost and the ROM itself should be smaller). Anyway we`ll see how it goes ). Worst case is that everybody will root their legends and flash it over and over again with unstable roms until it becomes an aluminium brick going back to HTC for replacement )

tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!

noobdeagle said:
tbh if the mytouch slide is getting update i see no reason why they shouldn't update the legend either
the my touch has :
320x480 screen
600mhz cpu (same as legend i believe)
387mb ram
512mb rom
so spec wise its very similar to legend so its got nothing to do with the lack of snapdragon or screen res.
and tbh all devices even 1st gen should get an update for 1 very big reason JIT!
it will make everything faster.
really there is no reason not to update the legend
if all of us email them they might give an update let the legend 2.2 outcry begin!
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However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.

Ace42 said:
However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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why should the sense version matter ? either way they have to update sense on all the models to support the new 2.2 features for example why not just resize the desire one which is essentially the same as the legend minus the live wallpaper support
either way im sure 2.2 will popup in other non official roms

Ace42 said:
However that phone has the Espresso ver of Sense not the reg one.
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people forget about the specs these are not comparable to win xp & then vista & then win 7, these are not resource hungry, I reckon its handset selling gimmicks of HTC, i have fallen victim to it; i have sold my hero & bought LEGEND; now i suppose history is going to repeat itself on legend. this time wait is going to be for FROYO.

New article found now:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/33238/htc-phones-android-os-updates
i think we have update

Pff I bought the Legend in stead of the desire because I thought it would have better support on forums and from HTC (since it was the succesor to Hero) bad mistake, really hope we get the update, but I'm not really counting on it.

There is no reason why Legend shouldn't get the update...the specs are surelly enought. No need to panic guys....i mean even if there will be no official rom with 2.2 rom (which i trully doubt) there will be plenty of rooted roms available.
Let's just wait and see.

just wait n watch what HTC does. If they release 2.2 for Legend then is well gud otherwise HTC will loose its credibility..........

Update to froyo for htc legend is clearly 100% sure come on guys! It's sure because it's a phone tha has 2-3 months of life! It's sure htc will update it. The problem is when...even if I don't understand where is the difficulty to upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, it seems very simple, in fact google will update n1 in the next 2 weeks...I don't think the senseUI is so hard to update, considering that this upgrade is not revolutionary! The very cool features of froyo are simple to add to a device working on 2.1. So HTC move your ass and make this upgrade available for max september. If we will not have the upgrade for september will be really bad for a company like HTC that wants to fight against apple. So please make your engineers work hard to give us this upgrade quickly, considering it's also quite simple to do it.

you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.

nickporwal said:
you are absolutely right mate. legend has the power to run it. also Froyo has been built for more speed and stability. So unless HTC dont want to upgrade it for its marketing reasons, we ll have Froyo running on our legends.
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I had a diamond 2 before the legend, and ii OS was windows mobile 6.1. HTC made available the 6.5 upgrade for free, so I can't imagine this time will do different. So it's only matter of time, and we all hope max 2-3 months from now it's enough.

Froyo (pre-rooted) out for the Nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686631

This german article says:
Legend will get the 2.2 update.
"in the second half 2010"

HTC Wildfire and Froyo SO

Good afternoon everyone. Does the HTC Wildfire will be as desired Froyo? It would be fantastic...

So, nobody knows if the Froyo (Android 2.2) will equip the Wildfire?

As every review says, it won't. It will be 2.1 Android. And I heard some saying Froyo requires ARMv7 processor architecture and Wildfire has ARMv6. So...
And why do ya need this Froyo? So nifty features of Android 2.2?

Root it and create a custom rom with froyo (it's not realy tht simple but owell..)
with custom toms on the hero it can run froyo ad the wildfire is slightly faster than hero soo it should be able to run

Maybe...
I read about that possibility here:
The HTC Desire will be among the first batch of HTC phones to get an Android Froyo update. The Taiwanese handset slinger has confirmed that it and US phones like the HTC Droid Incredible and HTC Evo 4G are in line for the icy upgrade. But others like the HTC Legend don’t get a name check…
In an official statement HTC says: “If your phone was launched this year, we will most likely offer an upgrade for it to the Froyo version.” The statement then names the HTC Desire as among the initial chosen ones.
Other Android-packing HTC smarties like the HTC Legend and HTC Wildfire could still be in luck. The statement continues: “We will announce a full list of phones and dates once we are closer to launching the upgrades.”
The statement foes on to note that HTC is working with Google and other partners to make sure that the HTC Sense UI plays nice with Android Froyo.
The long-delayed HTC Hero Android upgrade is apparently down to the difficulties of integrating Sense so we’ve got our fingers crossed that mixing it up with Froyo is a little easier.
HTC says its hopeful that all the Android 2.2 upgrades will be completed in the second half of this year. Let us know what phone and version of Android you’re currently toting.
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http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/0...froyo-update-promised-other-phones-to-follow/

Well, Froyo is confirmed on Wildfire...:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/

Obelixossauro said:
Well, Froyo is confirmed on Wildfire...:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/htc-expect-desire-legend-and-wildfire-to-get-froyo-beginning/
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So true and So BEAUTIFUL!
I'm a proud htc desire owner but my girlfriend bought wildfire (in exchange for her hd mini) Terrific news tbh!

will the wilfire be getting flash 10.1?
(as now it is confirmed for froyo)

I do not have this information, but soon, I hope, someone will give the explanation.

Obelixossauro said:
I do not have this information, but soon, I hope, someone will give the explanation.
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And?...

roumor says 15 september

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roumor says 15 september
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I Wish...
I Wish...

Have read this indeed as date for Virgin UK customers.....for sure they will not update every-body at same time......
Will get my Wildfire coming Monday 13th......curious if it has the upgrade already...

i have a xperia x10 but bought a wildfire yesterday to play with, i must admit i like it more than the x10. this has MT and flash support on the browser.
Cant wait for CM6 or ota 2.2

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You can find the poll at: 'HTC Wildfire Android Heaven' (I am not allowed to post the url at the moment)

I wish they would hurry the **** with it tbh...

Frank C said:
Have read this indeed as date for Virgin UK customers.....for sure they will not update every-body at same time......
Will get my Wildfire coming Monday 13th......curious if it has the upgrade already...
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Still no Froyo

wish they'd hurry the fack up
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Still no Froyo
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Update on Desire Z getting official GB ....

this is the transcipt of chat between a guy named Hemant Tailor and HTC customer service UK. he posted on the HTC uk wall... im just copy pasting here....
Hemant Tailor
Conversation with HTC UK support on chat...not looking good for 2.3 update on Desire Z:-
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
All agents are currently busy. Please stand by.
You are currently at position number 4 in the queue.
An agent will be with you in a moment. Thank you for your patience.
You are currently at position number 4 in the queue.
You have been connected to Georgina.
Georgina: Hi hemant, thank you for contacting HTC Support.
hemant tailor: hi gina
Georgina: Currently we do not have a date for when this is going to be released
hemant tailor: i thought it was gonna be by the end of the month
hemant tailor: ....
Georgina: We do not know
Georgina: when we do we will inform all customers
hemant tailor: is scheduled for the desire z
hemant tailor: will the desire z get the 2.3 GB update???
Georgina: it will we just do not know when
hemant tailor: Not impressed.....bye
Georgina: Thank you for contacting us, I hope you have a great day
guys we are just **** out of luck.... all HTC care about is to kiss sprint customers ass... nothing else.... providing updates to Evo Evo 3D and Merge... thats their world... all the other ppl dont matter
Edit: just did live chat myself.... here it is....
Ian: Hi Muneeb, thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Muneeb : hello
Muneeb : i want to know when should we expect gingerbread update for desire Z
Ian: The update to 2.3 should be available later this year.
Muneeb : previously it was told that the desire Z should get update before end of june . that no longer holds true correct?
Ian: I apologise I am unable to confirm this, I would advise you to look on our website for any updates as to when this is released.
Muneeb : okay.

Eh, I'm a bit more optimistic. These days, updates and such hardly ever come out at the planned release date. It makes sense from their standpoint to upgrade other phones too. There are so many more people on the Evo than on the G2/DZ for example, so it makes sense to upgrade the devices with the most users. Even if we don't get it officially or it doesn't come for a long time, we will still get custom ROMs with the updates.

the Dev community is the only reason im still using my desire Z . but this is definitively my last HTC device for sure..... i rather go with a developer edition phone (nexus series) next time.. or get myself nokia powered windows phone 7....(if they bring out some really really sweet hardware like the Sea Ray)

I can't live without the HTC Dialer. I like the Mail app much better too than stock. And there is massive dev support; I don't really see a downside to a HTC phone.
I am happily running Virtuous Unity 1.26 and its pretty near perfect!

You think HTC is bad with updates? Good luck with any other brand, much much worse.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z

slapshot30 said:
You think HTC is bad with updates? Good luck with any other brand, much much worse.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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Not to mention that HTC don't seem to tell the customer service anything regarding future updates. This has happened time again.
Ps, I've also had the "updates from other brands" rant many a time.. HTC are one of the better ones.

This is a bit of a letdown, but I know we'll get some nice ROMs for the Desire Z, so I'm not that worried.

Is it true that, from a developers point of view, being able to use an official HTC gingerbread rom will make for a much more stable foundation for future custom roms? That's always been the main reason why I've been hoping HTC release this update even though we currently have custom gingerbread roms.

Actually i am starting to lose faith about Htc's software division.
I credit them for making incredibly good phones, but their software division seems not to be the best. For example: They said on their Facebook page that they had abandoned the work on getting 2.3 on the old Desire, and when alot of people (including me) commented on that post about that people at XDA-Developers had gotten 2.3 to work on the old Desire several months ago, then Htc went out with "We WILL release 2.3 for the Desire, we started working on it again"
That made me doubt their competence in the software area...
and also i read that: Htc are only obliged to send out OTA updates the first 18 months after a product is released, so if the model you bought is more than 18 months, then you shouldn't be so sure to get any updates at all =/
btw, why wait for an official 2.3 when there is several good working 2.3 roms here at xda?