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If you were disappointed once, do you come back again?

Ok my fellow nexus one lovers... I had a Nexus one for about a month, and upon first opening the phone, there was dust, so I immediately got a replacement. I thought it was cool that next day when I show up at work, they had sent me my replacement so I was quite suprised on the service. Anyways, the phone was great, loved every aspect EXCEPT when texting, it wouldn't register my delete, and instead, a stupid smiley... in a way, I was getting pissed cause google was "smiling" at me when I was trying to do something else.
So my question is, I really want to go back, or wait for the HD2, but I feel the nexus is a better fit, especially when I use almost all the google features... but the texting/screen issue is a factor... I know people all over have this issue, and there isn't a resolution yet (that I've found) so what do I do? Wait? Suck it up and get it again? What are your suggestions???
FREE ME FROM MY BLACKBERRY!!!!!!!!!

Cheeze[iT] said:
Ok my fellow nexus one lovers... I had a Nexus one for about a month, and upon first opening the phone, there was dust, so I immediately got a replacement. I thought it was cool that next day when I show up at work, they had sent me my replacement so I was quite suprised on the service. Anyways, the phone was great, loved every aspect EXCEPT when texting, it wouldn't register my delete, and instead, a stupid smiley... in a way, I was getting pissed cause google was "smiling" at me when I was trying to do something else.
So my question is, I really want to go back, or wait for the HD2, but I feel the nexus is a better fit, especially when I use almost all the google features... but the texting/screen issue is a factor... I know people all over have this issue, and there isn't a resolution yet (that I've found) so what do I do? Wait? Suck it up and get it again? What are your suggestions???
FREE ME FROM MY BLACKBERRY!!!!!!!!!
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It took me 3 phones to get all my issues fixed. If you're worried about fast customer service, get a phone that is supported directly by a carrier (Mytouch3g, droid, etc).
I have a good friend who just got a droid after being a huge crackberry fan. He loves it.
The nexus one is a pilot program so there will be growing pains to endure.
In terms of the touch issues watch your other fingers around the edge of the touch screen. I notice whenever my screen goes wonky a finger that shouldn't be touching the screen is.
Keep in mind you can get other keyboards than the stock that are agruably better anyway.
Good luck and thanks for supporting Android.

Didnt realize you were talking about screen issues, since using Cyanogen I havent expierenced them, but I dont know if they've been fixed for regular users.

hmm I didn't pay any attention to it after I rooted/flashed cyanogen... guess I'm going to have to think about this one a little bit. but overall I loved it. Do you guys think it will be fixed.... someday?

Well its an issue that theyve been made well aware of on their support forums so I would assume theyre working on a solution, I dont know why they wouldnt be.

just curious, but are you using the stock keyboard?

No, im using better keyboard right now and use smart keyboard and swype from time to time, just like to mix things up every once in a while, I type so fast on this thing now that smart keyboard and better keyboard have pretty much made swype useless to me. Smart Keyboard is free in the market and Better Keyboard is like 2 bucks and is pretty similar but is theme-able which I like. I also dont use auto correct or suggestions or any of that stuff so I dont know how they work for those.

JoshHart said:
No, im using better keyboard right now and use smart keyboard and swype from time to time, just like to mix things up every once in a while, I type so fast on this thing now that smart keyboard and better keyboard have pretty much made swype useless to me. Smart Keyboard is free in the market and Better Keyboard is like 2 bucks and is pretty similar but is theme-able which I like. I also dont use auto correct or suggestions or any of that stuff so I dont know how they work for those.
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Smart Keyboard and Better Keyboard are really just the stock keyboard with minor differences and more customization (but nothing innovational), if you really want to enjoy your typing experience - I suggest installing the HTC_IME, the typing creation cooked up by HTC for their Sense UI phones.
Nothing really beats it, I don't see how anything could. Swype though, is lovely.

I still feel like I type faster on smart or better keyboard, it could be I just havent gotten used to HTC IME yet, i used it all the time on my mytouch but ive just gotten so use to these keyboards that I dont even have to look to type, like typing this whole thing for example. I guess in the end its all just personal preference.

whats the "htc ime" ? link? seems interesting

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416

So Just ordered my Vibrant but i have Q's

1.Hows the battery life? How long will it last with music and internet. Basically heavy usage.
2.Hows TouchWiz? Laggy? Fast? Finger friendly?
3.I understand root just came out but what can you really do with it at the moment.
4.hows the camera? Is it good? bad? Average?
5. Multitouch On kb outta the box? iFail KB status? Or G1 status?
6. What comes in the box? Accesories?
Thanks! My first powerhouse phone so im a little nervous.

2. TouchWiz 3.0 is a huge improvement from its previous version. It doesn't seem that bad anymore but can be replaced (at least the home screens) with ADW Launcher or LauncherPro (your choice). Fully removed when custom ROMs are available.
3. Root came out before the phone was released, takes <2 minutes to do. What can we do?
- Remove bloatware (A lot of apps such as Kindle, MobiTV, etc are NOT THE APPLICATIONS but an application that tells you to download the app from them market -- some are also subscription based so they are advertisements).
- Access to apps that require root access such as (SetCPU, Root Manager, Titanium Backup, and many more)
~ Custom ROMs are probably not too long from now. Recovery is in beta stages and CM6 is being worked on.
4. Camera is really good.. people exaggerate that there isn't night mode but it isn't needed. AndroidSPIN did a really good article about this located here: http://androidspin.com/2010/07/23/samsung-vibrants-camera-why-you-will-love-it/
Nightmode: http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/is-the-samsung-vibrant-night-mode-a-worthwhile-replacement-to-flash/
5. kb? Phone has multi-touch on stock.
6. Includes:
* Samsung Vibrant phone
* Alternative battery cover
* Battery & charger
* USB Cable
* SIM card
* Stereo headset
* Start guide
* Terms & conditions
Video of unboxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xirQWMInFIQ

Thanks Dude! Well im not nervous anymore. Im acctually excited now

zephiK kinda skipped over #1 so I figured I'd chime in a bit. Battery life isn't the greatest, but it does last me all day and that's really all I care about. GPS (Google Maps Navigation) seems to drain it a lot, otherwise it's really good on power. Although if you're doing music and internet, I'd give it about 3 or 4 hours. We should get better life though once CM6 is out.
@zephiK, which keyboard is MT? I've tried all the stock ones and even some downloaded ones and haven't found any to be MT. Is there a secret I'm missing out on?

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zephiK kinda skipped over #1 so I figured I'd chime in a bit. Battery life isn't the greatest, but it does last me all day and that's really all I care about. GPS (Google Maps Navigation) seems to drain it a lot, otherwise it's really good on power. Although if you're doing music and internet, I'd give it about 3 or 4 hours. We should get better life though once CM6 is out.
@zephiK, which keyboard is MT? I've tried all the stock ones and even some downloaded ones and haven't found any to be MT. Is there a secret I'm missing out on?
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I skipped #1 because I wasn't 100% too sure about it yet.
Droid X's keyboard is multi touch: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/25/droid-xs-multitouch-keyboard-ported-21-phones/
I haven't tried it myself because I'm addicted to Swype.

I am getting much more than 3 to 4 hours. More like double that, and I've been out of work all week texting browsing and gaming. I also question if we'll se more b battery life with cyanogen's rom. The evo is getting less than stock (though cyanogen recently found whatever was eating the battery).
Buy the phone. It is amazing.

Yeah, I heard it had been ported but I think there was supposed to be a problem where the text on the keys was too small. Oh well I'm gonna try it anyway. Thanks for the link!

no problem and OH i just realized what kb stood for KeyBoard.. durrr
@s152674n: he already bought it but yeah totally agreed with what you said.

I watched kick ass this morning and train your dragon this afternoon... Using the head phones.. Still had almost 50% left this afternoon...
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zephiK said:
no problem and OH i just realized what kb stood for KeyBoard.. durrr
@s152674n: he already bought it but yeah totally agreed with what you said.
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Kevin Butler?
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gravis86 said:
Yeah, I heard it had been ported but I think there was supposed to be a problem where the text on the keys was too small. Oh well I'm gonna try it anyway. Thanks for the link!
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I just decided to test this keyboard as well and the text on the keys are extremely small. I have been trying to find a great onscreen keyboard. I am coming from the G1, so I almost never used the onscreen keyboard prior so it is new to me.
I loved the Samsung keyboard, especially the button layout/size, but in the end I could not put up with it. So I am still using Better Keyboard. It would be nice to put the Samsung and Better Keyboard together.

misticalx said:
I just decided to test this keyboard as well and the text on the keys are extremely small. I have been trying to find a great onscreen keyboard. I am coming from the G1, so I almost never used the onscreen keyboard prior so it is new to me.
I loved the Samsung keyboard, especially the button layout/size, but in the end I could not put up with it. So I am still using Better Keyboard. It would be nice to put the Samsung and Better Keyboard together.
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Have you tried Swype? I came from a G1 as well.. Swype + 4" touchscreen works really well.

zephiK said:
Have you tried Swype? I came from a G1 as well.. Swype + 4" touchscreen works really well.
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Swype is pretty usefull I had it on my tp2 and my cliq xt.
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I waited so long to upgrade due to a physical keyboard but swype actually works great.the phone itself is a lot more then I expected as well
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If you want an awesome keyboard, use the ported HTC_IME. Best keys in the house.

keyboard issues any1 ?

not every input on the hardware keyboard is recognized & I know this is an issue with the epic as I've read quite a few folks experiencing it around the web but I'm curious if any1 who frequents this site has it & maybe found a fix or something. its a real p.i.t.a having to constanty fix what I'm typing because of this issue. epic #2 because of this not trying to make it #3 to only happen again

+1 I have the same issue. No solution that I know of, maybe we are just too fast for it. LOL, hopefully we will wee a fix when the developer ROMs start coming out. I don't know. On a similar note, the spelling correction doesn't happen for me either. And I have the rocking screen. Although I'm not worried enough about any of that to get it swapped for a new one.

I am having the same issue... every now and then the keyboard doesn't recognize certain inputs especially hen you start typing pretty quickly on it...
BTW I typed when not hen just showing it is doing it now haha.
I use smart keyboard pro to allow the text prediction and edit to occur.
Hope this is a software issue not faulty keyboard...tried to take it in to sprint and the only thing they said they would do was do hard reset on the device and wipe all data.... ya that wouldn't do crap
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I thought it was just me typing too fast. It seems like it doesn't register when two keys are hit too closely together

I actually noticed that when typing really fast, sometime the keyboard freezes up.
It SEEMS like its because the keyboard registers a button long press, because the phone opens up the little addition letters popup.
Either way its really annoying because I don't use any of the additional long press symbols! I'm hoping when custom roms are created, they can remove the button long press menu!

I think you guys should write down what buttons exactly aren't registering. If you all have the same issues with the same buttons, then its probably a fixable issue - or its hardware. If its issues with different buttons, then its probably going to be harder to fix.

it really isn't any certain buttons its just once you get to typing pretty fast it just can't keep up and will RANDOMLY miss letters... so my report would be that it isn't any certain letters at all just dependent on how fast your typing...
Another thing is that sometimes it isnt just when typing fast it happens as well when I'm typing slow
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xcolt45 said:
it really isn't any certain buttons its just once you get to typing pretty fast it just can't keep up and will RANDOMLY miss letters... so my report would be that it isn't any certain letters at all just dependent on how fast your typing...
Another thing is that sometimes it isnt just when typing fast it happens as well when I'm typing slow
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exactly .. and its annoying !

I'm fairly confident it's a hardware problem because if I press the buttons firmly (not hard but firm if that makes sense) it will register the letters regardless of how fast I type.

Yup, I've experienced this as well. It's annoying but not a dealbreaker, yet.

I feel like tipping my hat into this topic. I just switched from AT&T to Sprint, got the Epic, been a happy camper thus far. I have noticed the same exact keyboard issue, and I've noticed that it isn't getting as much coverage as it should be.
With my epic, it's COMPLETELY RANDOM. It'll happen 500 times in one sentence, and sometimes, it won't happen for an entire hour. It doesn't seem to be a hardware issue, because no matter how slow I type, or how firm I press down on the keys, the problem will rear it's ugly head.
I'll wait this out until the end of the 30 days. On the 29th day, if nothing's been done, via Sprint/Samsung or XDA, I shall swap for an Evo.

I use the keyboard constantly and have never experienced this.
I do routinely experience *extra* keypresses because of my giant fingers.

badasscat said:
I use the keyboard constantly and have never experienced this.
I do routinely experience *extra* keypresses because of my giant fingers.
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same here... had my epic since launch and never had or even heard of this issue until now...
I do however have issue w/ the onscreen keyboards auto correction feature and the fact that i can be difficult to go back and edit w/o arrow keys... but thats my gripe w/ swype... not the epic ... lol

Then I'm guessing its worth it to get a swap since not everyone is having this issue.
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Xodium said:
Then I'm guessing its worth it to get a swap since not everyone is having this issue.
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I would consider it a defect and as I use the keyboard pretty much exclusively for typing (I still can't figure out how the heck anybody uses a virtual keyboard - that's why I bought the Epic), I would definitely return it if I had any issues with the keyboard that I thought were caused by either a hardware or a software bug. If the second one I got was the same, I would return it again and get a different phone entirely, on a different carrier if necessary. That's how important I consider the keyboard.

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I would consider it a defect and as I use the keyboard pretty much exclusively for typing (I still can't figure out how the heck anybody uses a virtual keyboard - that's why I bought the Epic), I would definitely return it if I had any issues with the keyboard that I thought were caused by either a hardware or a software bug. If the second one I got was the same, I would return it again and get a different phone entirely, on a different carrier if necessary. That's how important I consider the keyboard.
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Unfortunately, I have only two choices where I live now. Verizon or Sprint. And seeing as Verizon made me famous on the internet, I won't be going back to them anytime soon. Plus, their only good, keyboarded Android phone, the Droid 2, has the same crappy-feeling keyboard, and Motoblur/eFuse is the dealbreaker. (I do hold high hopes for the enV touch 2/enV Pro or whatever they're calling it, as the voyager form-factor is pretty neat, and the keyboard was actually decent)
Sprint seems to be batting a thousand when it comes to good Android phones. Not to mention their service is cheap and effective here.
Plus, not all bad. I think an Evo + Better Keyboard would be SWEET.

I'm actually having the same keyboard problem, where it misses a LOT of keypresses (depending on how fast I type). Is it really a defect in the phone?

I am having this, too, but I it seems like not everyone is. Guess it's going back to Sprint tomorrow.

5 phones since launch day ... all swapped for brand new ones because all have the issue. some weren't as bad as the others and since getting #5 a few days ago I seem to only have had it happen a few times .. folks claiming not to have it do u use the physical keyboard or swype for majority of inputs ? maybe ya just don't notice lol

dumpringz said:
5 phones since launch day ... all swapped for brand new ones because all have the issue. some weren't as bad as the others and since getting #5 a few days ago I seem to only have had it happen a few times .. folks claiming not to have it do u use the physical keyboard or swype for majority of inputs ? maybe ya just don't notice lol
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Like I said, I use the physical keyboard exclusively. Never had this issue. I use it for searches, texts, personal emails, even business emails to customers. And I type fast enough that when Samsung put out that "world record" commercial with the guy using Swype a while back, I was like "that's supposed to be fast?"
I wonder if there is some service or app that is interfering with the keyboard on some of you guys' phones; something that's taking over the whole system for a half second every once in a while.

Upgrade to Epic 4g from evo 4g?

So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something

Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...

trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.

I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L

I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.

The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy

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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!

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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..

I'm sorry guys...I had to do this!

I just had to say that I'm loving this phone. I just got it today and I'm damn near in tears right now! I put on 2.2.1 and I think im set for forever. This phone crushes the Evo in every way...Well..some may bring up updates and bla bla but look at it this way. Gingerbread on the Evo is gonna be like Froyo on the Hero.The Evo just doesnt have the hardware to actually benefit from what they are trying to do with Gingerbread...The Evo simply can't play high end games no matter what's going on and after running Gingerbread on my Evo...its basically 2.2.1 on this Epic but with the different UI and keyboard. Long live Epic!

Its ok I feel.the way you do. At least your post wasn't a post about why don't we have froyo yet. Glad you love your phone. Are you putting any custom roms on it? Trust me you'll love it even more if you pit bonsai rom on it.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

I used the same old-fashioned cell phone for 10 years until I switched to a smartphone for the first time last September with the Epic 4G. Quite a shock, but well worth the careful wait.

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Its ok I feel.the way you do. At least your post wasn't a post about why don't we have froyo yet. Glad you love your phone. Are you putting any custom roms on it? Trust me you'll love it even more if you pit bonsai rom on it.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
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Ah, Froyo..well...to be honest, the Froyo for the Evo was pretty weak. It ran the same as 2.1, felt the same...only the sense from the Desire HD and Z and I think myTouch 4G actually have the real Froyo. The Evo just has the rushed Froyo >.< I'd much rather wait months for the real deal than the rushed one. And I just put some DK28 rom on it..like I said, I just got it today so if I'm sounding like an idiot please forgive me haha. I havent got the time to go through all of the posts in the Dev section. I did however go through the Dev section and look at some of the roms but there weren't many pics for most of em. I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
Jayavarman said:
I used the same old-fashioned cell phone for 10 years until I switched to a smartphone for the first time last September with the Epic 4G. Quite a shock, but well worth the careful wait.
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You must've been blown away...this Epic is no entry level smartphone...this is the real deal. Looks like you may be set for another 10 years haha. I know I wont be changing phones for a while.

ms79723 said:
I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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The Frankenstein ROM strips away everything to reveal an even more stock stock. Very clean.

ms79723 said:
did however go through the Dev section and look at some of the roms but there weren't many pics for most of em. I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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Bonsai has it theme in a separate file so you can have the stock look or add the theme. And your timing is perfect, their new install process has streamlined everything to an amazing degree. I almost wish you'd started a week ago with the old way so you could appreciate what they've done

Yeah, I can't agree more. The ROM developers have made my Epic amazing.

Ya people hyped up the hero and the update was lame...

pipskicks said:
Ya people hyped up the hero and the update was lame...
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What?
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I referenced the Hero in the first post.

ms79723 said:
I just had to say that I'm loving this phone. I just got it today and I'm damn near in tears right now! I put on 2.2.1 and I think im set for forever. This phone crushes the Evo in every way...Well..some may bring up updates and bla bla but look at it this way. Gingerbread on the Evo is gonna be like Froyo on the Hero.The Evo just doesnt have the hardware to actually benefit from what they are trying to do with Gingerbread...The Evo simply can't play high end games no matter what's going on and after running Gingerbread on my Evo...its basically 2.2.1 on this Epic but with the different UI and keyboard. Long live Epic!
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i just switched to the epic too.

fixxxer2008 said:
i just switched to the epic too.
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welcome to the epic side fixxer
just be calm here

First time rooting a phone here cw3 ext4 flashed 2.2.1 running incredibly fast. So glad I didnt follow my friends to the evo

The part about Gingerbread on the Evo. The Hero had heaps of problems, and coming from that phone, I have to say I disagree with the board angry at Samsung b/c the Hero, G2 or whatever T-Mobile's version and quite a few other phones were all *****ing about updates....and their updates didn't do much.

So Fixxxer can we get Fresh on here too? You guys pumped up my Hero

The Epic was my second smartphone - quite a step up from the HTC Hero, which later died on me.
I live in Canada and bought this phone for $300 no contract off of eBay, brand new (apparently, the seller said that it had a bad ESN, although I don't really care), and while it does have it's flaws (poor battery life, although the Evo also suffered from this and I'm told that the Evo has worse battery life), a bad GPS (calibrating the GPS can fix it), overheating issues when gaming, and a keyboard that misses keys), it's an otherwise good phone. After playing around with other Galaxy S variants, the Desire HD, Desire Z, Nexus One, Sony X10, and a few LG handsets, I wouldn't trade this phone for any other Android phone released in 2010.
Welcome to the Epic community!

sauron0101 said:
The Epic was my second smartphone - quite a step up from the HTC Hero, which later died on me.
I live in Canada and bought this phone for $300 no contract off of eBay, brand new (apparently, the seller said that it had a bad ESN, although I don't really care), and while it does have it's flaws (poor battery life, although the Evo also suffered from this and I'm told that the Evo has worse battery life), a bad GPS (calibrating the GPS can fix it), overheating issues when gaming, and a keyboard that misses keys), it's an otherwise good phone. After playing around with other Galaxy S variants, the Desire HD, Desire Z, Nexus One, Sony X10, and a few LG handsets, I wouldn't trade this phone for any other Android phone released in 2010.
Welcome to the Epic community!
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Let me tell you something sir...the issues like battery life and overheating are here but when compared to the Evo..I wouldnt even call them issues really.
With my Evo, battery life was so bad...I wish I could tell you how bad. Some people may say "its not that bad once you get a kernel" but it is that bad. This DK28 kernel gave me 7 hours with some pretty heavy usage, when i needed to charge it, i was at 10%...and I had 4G enabled the whole time. Thats not possible with the Evo at all...with how I was using the phone, I'd probably only get 3.5 hours. Battery life is abysmal. The worst thing I've ever seen on a smartphone.
Now with the overheating...this phone does some weird stuff. I cant understand it really...the battery temp stays around 80...thats the same with the Evo. While in use, the temp goes up to 86...thats with a lot of usage (listening to music and browsing). And then after it being at 86 for a while...it drops down to 83 while its still in use. Can the Evo do that? Hell no. The Evo goes from 80 to 96 in a New York minute, then continues to increase! You have to use setCPU profiles for screen off just to try to manage the temperature...its terrifying. So I mean...yeah the Epic heats up and what not and the battery aint 18 hours with heavy usage out of the box, but when it is compared to these HTC phones, this phone just looks perfect.
And i dont really want to start posting comments where im comparing the Evo and Epic but Im just so blown away...I mean, I put so much time into the Evo and its basically all I know but now that I have this Epic..this device is just so damn perfect, I cant stop talking about it..cant stop posting about it...this is how an android phone should be. I mean omg...has anyone ever looked at how it reads the voltages and temperature on here? Samsung has done it all right...its timers are spot on so when you use apps like Battery Indicator Pro, you can actually see differences because of the better timers. The Epic also has better voltage-percentage battery readings...while the Evo is all over the place. It will say 100% is 4.135V and then 99% is 4.035V then 98% would be 4.111V...I hated that. And because the Evo did that, you would always experience random drops in percentage after waking the phone up because it only checked the battery voltage when it was awake so..people in the Evo forum would be like "HEY GUYS, I LEFT MY PHONE OFF THE CHARGER FOR X-AMOUNT OF HOURS WHILE I WAS SLEEPING AND DIDNT LOSE A DROP!!" Well..they did in fact lose a lot of power, the phone just didnt match up teh voltages with the percentages while the phone was sleeping, so when they would start using the phone, the phone would drain like crazy while it tried to get to the right percentage. So annoying...
Im sorry for my rambling, I really am...its just that there's so much to compare here...and I dont think anyone's ever mentioned the voltage-percentage readings when comparing the phone, so at least im not saying anything thats been repeated.

Yes...I too am in love with my Epic. That love would be intensified if the keyboard issue was resolved. If our keyboard was better this phone would be on God level...its more Demi-God/Perseus level now. Still an amazing phone.

Quis89 said:
Yes...I too am in love with my Epic. That love would be intensified if the keyboard issue was resolved. If our keyboard was better this phone would be on God level...its more Demi-God/Perseus level now. Still an amazing phone.
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You talking about hitting multiple keys as in the issue? Strange enough..I only do that when Im in will lit areas where I can actually see the outline of the keys. When Im in a dark room and all i have to rely on is the backlight, im all good. But whats worse is that in both scenarios i do hit the other keys a lot, but it only registers one. So im constantly double checking because i hear like 3 clicks but it puts the letter i want up. Its kinda annoying but its all good.
Another thing that bugs me is the damn charging cable. That thing will come out for no reason. With the Evo, it was locked in so good you could give the phone with the cable in to one person and you grab the other end and together you could swing it around and jump rope. I move my phone over an inch and it pops out. But its all good.
And how many people installed the gingerbread theme? This thing is popping...the blacks...ahhhhh i love it. My background is black as well (got it from some backgrounds from the app Grallery. If y'all never used that app for backgrounds, you should check it out. Its a ton of abstract art and it looks amazing). With the black background and the vibrant colors on that background and the black status bar...it looks crazy in a dark room. Doesnt even look like you're holding a damn phone because it all blends in to the dark surrounding your in but yet the colors pop out...its just jaw dropping.
Edit: Going to try Bonsai right now...I hope its not themed...well even if it is..im just going to flash the Gingerbread theme right over it...

ms79723 said:
Another thing that bugs me is the damn charging cable. That thing will come out for no reason. With the Evo, it was locked in so good you could give the phone with the cable in to one person and you grab the other end and together you could swing it around and jump rope. I move my phone over an inch and it pops out. But its all good.
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My Epic is nothing like that ..You can plug in the stock charging cable, it snugs in on mine...I don't know about jump roping
But I can certainly, have the Epic dangling in the air by lifting it by the cable And it wont come out
Your cable might be messed up...You might want to try another different one.