The NAND is almost there.....
If the NAND come out with Froyo 2.2, will you revert back?, or stayed with the DESIRE HD only SD run?
I think, I can't get back to Froyo2.2, because in DESIRE HD, there are so many good things, that i can't lose more; like Browser smooth, the account HTC.SENSE and many other good things.
You can do some things with the mobile phone remotely (forgot the mobile device at home? NP, turn to the htc website, login and read the messages and receiving mail in phone online, not very useful? Someone stole the cellphone? NP Log in and block the htc cellphone. He will be locked (ask for a password previously chosen by us) and automatically makes a call to our number one choice for those who have to return.
Of course, Based on the principle that we will have a build in Beta, with camera, and all things working well.
What is your opinion, NAND froyo 2.2 or Desire HD SD?
Good question, no......
pack21 said:
The NAND is almost there.....
If the NAND come out with Froyo 2.2, will you revert back?, or stayed with the DESIRE HD only SD run?
I think, I can't get back to Froyo2.2, because in DESIRE HD, there are so many good things, that i can't lose more; like Browser smooth, the account HTC.SENSE and many other good things.
Of course, Based on the principle that we will have a build in Beta, with camera, and all things working well.
What is your opinion, NAND froyo 2.2 or Desire HD SD?
Good question, no......
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How bout Desire HD ROM on NAND?
Sorry to say, but my only question is, how in any way is this related to development? -_-
Jammie_1989 said:
How bout Desire HD ROM on NAND?
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Maybe not for that soon, because they are working the NAND-based Froyo2.2, I think ....EVO tree Kernel.
Shatterv2 said:
Sorry to say, but my only question is, how in any way is this related to development? -_-
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To be honest there are hardly any questions in this section about Android development apart from the builds. This will continue to happen wether you like it or not
NAND froyo all the way.... love to get winmo off my phone, hopefully better battery life and no more g-sensor freezes, although the new kernels are making that problem "almost" non-existent.
Sense is alright but I prefer a cleaner rom.
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Maybe not for that soon, because they are working the NAND-based Froyo2.2, I think ....EVO tree Kernel.
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See what you mean but doubt it will be long after darkstone works his magic and manages to get a NAND-bases HD ROM out I have the faith. I have become obsessed with my phone lol I need get a life haha
mybe u shud make this into a poll? I'd go for the nand =) can't wait to go android full on.
sooner or later the DesireHD tera NAND, but I doubt that, will be possible so soon.
The DesireHD, has a Browser 2X better tham Froyo2.2, even in SD .... .....
and the account HTC.SENSE, prefer to lose it? Remotely access your HD2?
you can do some things with the mobile phone remotely (forgot the mobile device at home? NP, turn to the htc website, login and read the messages and receiving mail in phone online, not very useful? Someone stole the cellphone? NP Log in and block the htc cellphone. He will be locked (ask for a password previously chosen by us) and automatically makes a call to our number one choice for those who have to return.
is a difficult choice, i think....
pack21 said:
The NAND is almost there.....
If the NAND come out with Froyo 2.2, will you revert back?, or stayed with the DESIRE HD only SD run?
I think, I can't get back to Froyo2.2, because in DESIRE HD, there are so many good things, that i can't lose more; like Browser smooth, the account HTC.SENSE and many other good things.
Of course, Based on the principle that we will have a build in Beta, with camera, and all things working well.
What is your opinion, NAND froyo 2.2 or Desire HD SD?
Good question, no......
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I get I am a Newb.... But i vote pure Android all the way.....
(Froyo 2.2).... Please????
pack21 said:
sooner or later the DesireHD tera NAND, but I doubt that, will be possible so soon.
The DesireHD, has a Browser 2X better tham Froyo2.2, even in SD .... .....
and the account HTC.SENSE, prefer to lose it? Remotely access your HD2?
you can do some things with the mobile phone remotely (forgot the mobile device at home? NP, turn to the htc website, login and read the messages and receiving mail in phone online, not very useful? Someone stole the cellphone? NP Log in and block the htc cellphone. He will be locked (ask for a password previously chosen by us) and automatically makes a call to our number one choice for those who have to return.
is a difficult choice, i think....
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Lookout provides enough of the features mentioned to go with just nand until a desire hd nand rom comes along.
pack21 said:
sooner or later the DesireHD tera NAND, but I doubt that, will be possible so soon.
The DesireHD, has a Browser 2X better tham Froyo2.2, even in SD .... .....
and the account HTC.SENSE, prefer to lose it? Remotely access your HD2?
is a difficult choice, i think....
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Thats a VERY hard question. Im in the same bat as you, I absolutely love all the options in the new sense. If people start saying that there froyo nand build is running way better, ill probably go with it. But if its not too much of a difference, ill stay with Desire HD for awhile til they get a nand version of it.
we cant do both?
i dont see why we couldnt run 2 android builds when nand is complete...one on sd and one on nand...
Back Stabbath said:
we cant do both?
i dont see why we couldnt run 2 android builds when nand is complete...one on sd and one on nand...
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Because it's like trying to eat two different meals, one of fish and other of meat, if you try to go eat a little of this and that, you start to get boring .....
What browser is on the Desire HD Rom that is so much better than the Android browser on Froyo 2.2?
i like DesireHD
but
Nand is better ;-)
cooooool Desire HD ROM on NAND I think it's the best and we wait
(((( Desire HD ))))
Who says you cant have both
Maybe when the NAND is released there will be an option to allow you to run a build off of SD card. If that is the case then you could have a NAND build of your choice and then run ACE build off of the SD.
I would hope this was an option anyway so it would allow me to "test" a new build for battery life etc. before flashing it to NAND. With all the builds popping up daily who knows whats next.....
Just have to wait and see....but I like choices
Let me guess you people want to tell the women at the club that two droids are better than one.
Nice question...
Yeah nice question to be asking in this moment of time, but if u remember last month we weren't even considering the idea of having the Desire HD ROM in our power, so who can tell us that when the NAND gets out some cooker doesn't make us a NAND of the Desire. Don't forget that its only a BETA, and maybe next month the official ROM gets out or we will be thinking of WM7 and Desire HD dual boot . This guys don't stop to amase me
I'll keep the Desire HD for now because of all you said, and because its just the best build i haver had. No SOD, no freezes (thanks to the new kernel) very fast internet (wifi, 3G and GPRS), best browser experience, smooth transitions between screens.
I'll wait to see what they will give us more but u can always have the Desire on the SD and try the Nand just for the sake of it and then decide what best for you
Related
That when a stable android build is out for the HD2, it will be able ot run on the internal memory with NO windows mobile at all, and not kill the battery? i just wnat to make sure that i will not have to run the build of my sd card for ever.
i just would like all your opinions, cause i don't know weather to be patient and keep my hd2 or get something else...Just wondering what all your thoughts are..and when would you think a stable working full port would be?
thanks gang. Love this forum
Thanks DEVS! Great work on this!
no one??????
To be honest I think you'd be better off just getting an android phone if your looking to completely replace the os.......
You could be waiting a while otherwise.......
conantroutman said:
To be honest I think you'd be better off just getting an android phone if your looking to completely replace the os.......
You could be waiting a while otherwise.......
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Really? that is what i feared...
what (IYHO) would be a "while"?
I wouldnt like to even guess at how long because my knowledge of the whole android thing is very small, its not really something that interests me to be honest......
From what Ive been reading the newer builds are coming on in leaps and bounds but at the end of the day the HD2 is built to be a WM device, android will never run as efficiently and as stable as it would on an android handset....
Of course its going be fun to play around with but I dont think it will ever be able to replace the original os........
It sounds like you'd probably be better off with a desire / evo.........
dvigue said:
Really? that is what i feared...
what (IYHO) would be a "while"?
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Well they have been going since March, it's now July and we are on alpha release. A month, two, three...? Who knows.
i wonder how "usable" it will be, and will there ever be a rom that works on the internal memory and not the memory card?
dvigue said:
i wonder how "usable" it will be, and will there ever be a rom that works on the internal memory and not the memory card?
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I should think it would be stable and you may well be able to flash it to the internal ROM, or at least have a dual boot option. Personally I have no interest in running Android on my HD2, despite tinkering with it already.
I have my eye on the 'Desire HD'.
Kalavere said:
I should think it would be stable and you may well be able to flash it to the internal ROM, or at least have a dual boot option. Personally I have no interest in running Android on my HD2, despite tinkering with it already.
I have my eye on the 'Desire HD'.
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may i ask why? do you like Winmo better?
dvigue said:
may i ask why? do you like Winmo better?
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I have never tried Android, but I do like WM 6.5.x a lot, but it's well on the way out now. I'll be gunning for an Android phone next I think, and the 'Desire HD' looks like it will fit the bill nicely.
When I was considering the HD2 or the Android, the main reason I chose the HD2 was because of WM6.5. Despite all the bad impression, WM is still fairly stable for me. Furthermore, you can only install apps onto Device Memory using Android. How many programs do you think you can get onto the Device Memory?
I have an 8gb card (standard issue) and I have no qualms installing a program and playing with it for a while, and don't need to worry about memory becoming too low...
otacon said:
When I was considering the HD2 or the Android, the main reason I chose the HD2 was because of WM6.5. Despite all the bad impression, WM is still fairly stable for me. Furthermore, you can only install apps onto Device Memory using Android. How many programs do you think you can get onto the Device Memory?
I have an 8gb card (standard issue) and I have no qualms installing a program and playing with it for a while, and don't need to worry about memory becoming too low...
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You can install apps on the memory card now... was added in 2.1 or 2.2
Hi
The Desire HD kernel source is available at http://developer.htc.com/
exelent
Wow momy, now that you have milk, give me the HD camera port.
Saaaweeet! Mdeejay should get a hold of this soon!
Yay! Does this mean that we will have a Camera on the Desire HD ROM soon?
C'mon devs, make us proud owners of HTC Desire HD2!!!
And darkstone
elgrego4 said:
And darkstone
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I hope so! He has been busy lately but im sure we will be impressed very soon by one of the amazing devs around here.
whoever fixes it first gets a cookie =D
Cerv3r said:
whoever fixes it first gets a cookie =D
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And a few donations!
Me so happy! Now, all i want for this Xmas is... that's right!
N A N D !!!
Great news. New challenges for the guys, my guess is that they will love this.
And we all love/appreciate the work they doing. It´s a Win - Win : )
Great news, and now Camera HD for HD2
Great, hopefully also help with the PPP issue
Big news for HD lovers as me and greats chance for our dear developers ... thanks to all developers for continuos support ...
Camera ?
NAND ?
That is a good news.
Now waiting.
Theoretically it should be not much more than finding the references to the HD camera sensor (S5K3H1GX) and make sure that the HD2 sensor (s5k3e2fx) is referenced there. The source for the HD2 sensor is available in the published kernel source. Now we only need a cook to do it.
first want to see that they have published whole kernel and not everything except the camera ( i know they are watching us ) and ofcourse they dont like it if we finish the build .
waiting patiently for the devs and hope they fix it soon
GL
ok, a noob question, but with this release can developers now make a ROM that can replace windows mobile on the device memory or does this just fix minor glitches like the camera? if this relese does NOT do this wht will it take for us to have a rom that no longer has to be used from the memory card? thanks in advance.
Veldmuus said:
first want to see that they have published whole kernel and not everything except the camera ( i know they are watching us ) and ofcourse they dont like it if we finish the build .
waiting patiently for the devs and hope they fix it soon
GL
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Camera stuff seems in there allright. I already had a quick peek.
steve austin said:
ok, a noob question, but with this release can developers now make a ROM that can replace windows mobile on the device memory or does this just fix minor glitches like the camera? if this relese does NOT do this wht will it take for us to have a rom that no longer has to be used from the memory card? thanks in advance.
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No, this will not enable the NAND procedure. Actually, what gain do you expect from that except faster booting? The current SD version is a bit slower on startup but changing and upgrading is a breeze compared to NAND and you can have multiple versions installed and even the option to boot WM if you really feel the urge. With a fast SD card I doubt that Android will run much faster in flash mem.
So if you really prefer Android in firmware you will have to wait until the chefs are ready cooking this version (which probably should happen in the next month or so)
MrDroopy said:
No, this will not enable the NAND procedure. Actually, what gain do you expect from that except faster booting? The current SD version is a bit slower on startup but changing and upgrading is a breeze compared to NAND and you can have multiple versions installed and even the option to boot WM if you really feel the urge. With a fast SD card I doubt that Android will run much faster in flash mem.
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I do not fully understand what is the difference between NAND and SD boot. Is it really the case that after the boot system is sitting in the NAND... or maybe simpler Yes/No question:
After the NAND boot system is in THE SAME STATE as after the SD boot. The ONLY difference is that I have Android folder on SD card? (YES/NO)
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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It is unlike this will every take place. The complications with NAND and drivers for the Leo are the issue. Even the phone is similar to other HTC devices hard is different to drivers are as well. In the case of the Leo it will likely not happened. If you want a Android device I suggest you move from the Leo.
I understand the 4.3" screen is difficult to match on a carrier like T-Mobile. I personal just left Verizon where I had the Droid X. Android is nice but I was more focused on a phone with a nice hardware and set up.
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Android is useable now.
Waiting for Devs to release it to NAND although it works flawlessly from the SD Card well at least mine does
Boot from Startup is NAND and won't be released untill it is finished.
The guy above this post is an idiot. It won't be long before it replaces winmo completely so stick with your HD2 as WP7 might be an option in the next few months or so as well.
koendegr said:
when will android be useble on the htc leo?
what contains useble in the developers opinion?
and what are the thing we are waiting for for now for a useble android?
and when will it boot from startup?
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Im sure, instead of wasting our valuable time, you could have spent some of yours searching through these threads and reading the state of the world of Android on the HTC Leo. But you didn't you chose to let loose another regurgitated thread asking the same question people have been asking for the last year.
Please read before posting.
Usable?
Usable? Um... I have not used winmo for about 2-3 months. If you have not tried it yet you should. There are several extremely stable builds right now. I recently switched from Bangsters to mdeejay evo revolution, only because I wanted to try a Sense build. Sound/voice quality is perfect, data speeds excellent, no issues with mms or any other functionality. Battery is also very good. Not as good as winmo, but very close, and who doesnt have a charger at their desk or in their car these days?
Sure you may lose data connection occasionally (maybe 1-2 times a week), but cycling airplane mode clears that up. The issues with android today are no worse than the shortcomings of winmo.
Its not like you lose winmo by loading up an android build. Just do it, you will not go back.
thanks for all the replays
my question is awnserd
and tanks for all of your aponions
ps i did search
koendegr said:
ps i did search
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Just didn't read
I'd say that, provided that you are willing to read the forums to troubleshoot your issues, android on the hd2 is as capable as any other current android handset.
How to disable Active Sync security?
Hi
I'm sure this is an issue already solved and even discussed here. I did the search.
Could you tell me where to find software which will disable Active Sync security feature on Sence Revolution 2.2?
I have installed LockPicker already but I'm not able to get it work properly.
Thanks in advanced.
Hello all-
I am new to the forum and have followed the forum for only about a week.
I am planning to buy 2 new HD2's from T-Mobile today again, when I say again I mean I bought 2 when they first came out and like most I cried at the disappointment of WinMo 6.5 and returned them almost immediately. I hoped and dreamed of Android on the HD2, and here we are! Thank you for all that has worked on this.
I do need help with the following questions;
Can some one link me to the latest Android 2.2 Froyo version for HD2?
Once installed is it always going to run off of the SD Card?
If so does this negatively affect the battery life?
Does the functionality of HotSpot work?
I know I will have more questions but I do appreciate your help everyone!
Can some one link me to the latest Android 2.2 Froyo version for HD2?
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All of the new builds run Android 2.2, the easiest way to find them is here.
Once installed is it always going to run off of the SD Card?
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Yes, until MAGLDR (the NAND boot) is released publically.
If so does this negatively affect the battery life?
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It does. I could explain more but I'll let someone else do that.
Does the functionality of HotSpot work?
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Yes.
PS: Wrong section.
Well answered, I would add that power consumption tends to be a bit particular to a variety of set ups, windows rom, kernel, etc. so no simple answer.
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I want to keep this as simple as possible...
Why is there so many different versions?
Is there a version grading system here?
Which version comes to be the highest recommended in the FROYO world?
There's no rating system as it's subjective. You may like something that other people don't and ratings would become skewed. The best thing you can do is read the first couple of posts from a build thread, and if you like what you see give it a shot.
And there are so many different versions because there's lots of different ways to build Android...
Stock
Sense
CyanogenMod
MIUI
DesireHD based
Desire Z based
Nexus One based
Evo 4G based
and probably more I cannot think of right now. Each one caters to a slightly different person, and it's up to you to find one you like.
if you dont know much about android just go with a cyanogen6 build. anything that says CM6 or CM6.1 is good. try the one by infinitybiff. simple, solid, and very very fast.
you cant go wrong.
and you can always load multiple builds on your SD card(search how to rename android folder and edit name is startup.txt)
so you can have like 10 different builds on one SD card. all ready to go.
play around find what you like, and for gods sake do not post threads in development.
hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
no one???
walidhazem said:
no one???
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look around. No one answers these threads, especially when you ask for detailed analys of each roms specialities. ALL the roms are the best. If there were a best rom we'd all be using it.
As for android on band, yes its comparable to a real android device. Better than many, in fact.
Thx
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walidhazem said:
hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
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If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
stevedebi said:
If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
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thx for you reply
it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256581
I have been trying 20+ roms. This one is pretty fast.
I install plenty apps, and this rom does not slow down. It is as fast as the wm rom.
Sense 2.1 looks old but it is perfect for our "older " phone. With this rom I have fully working Wi-Fi tethering. It is not build in the rom, but I can make it work
84DGR said:
it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
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The second post of the NRG thread has a great explanation of how to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17584373&postcount=4
It really comes down to personal taste, between cm7, sense, aosp, etc...
But android has come along way on nand and in some cases outperforms alot of phones(this is a 2yr old device but still a beast ;-) ) but just try a few roms and choose one. Grab the hd2 toolkit for your system partions and cwm, and off you go!!
Good luck!
Ps. I personally use tyungs nexushd2 rom
Its just pure awesome gingerbread
sent from my HTC NexusHD2 provided by Tytung