Hey Xda Gang, what are the chances... - HD2 General

That when a stable android build is out for the HD2, it will be able ot run on the internal memory with NO windows mobile at all, and not kill the battery? i just wnat to make sure that i will not have to run the build of my sd card for ever.
i just would like all your opinions, cause i don't know weather to be patient and keep my hd2 or get something else...Just wondering what all your thoughts are..and when would you think a stable working full port would be?
thanks gang. Love this forum
Thanks DEVS! Great work on this!

no one??????

To be honest I think you'd be better off just getting an android phone if your looking to completely replace the os.......
You could be waiting a while otherwise.......

conantroutman said:
To be honest I think you'd be better off just getting an android phone if your looking to completely replace the os.......
You could be waiting a while otherwise.......
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Really? that is what i feared...
what (IYHO) would be a "while"?

I wouldnt like to even guess at how long because my knowledge of the whole android thing is very small, its not really something that interests me to be honest......
From what Ive been reading the newer builds are coming on in leaps and bounds but at the end of the day the HD2 is built to be a WM device, android will never run as efficiently and as stable as it would on an android handset....
Of course its going be fun to play around with but I dont think it will ever be able to replace the original os........
It sounds like you'd probably be better off with a desire / evo.........

dvigue said:
Really? that is what i feared...
what (IYHO) would be a "while"?
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Well they have been going since March, it's now July and we are on alpha release. A month, two, three...? Who knows.

i wonder how "usable" it will be, and will there ever be a rom that works on the internal memory and not the memory card?

dvigue said:
i wonder how "usable" it will be, and will there ever be a rom that works on the internal memory and not the memory card?
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I should think it would be stable and you may well be able to flash it to the internal ROM, or at least have a dual boot option. Personally I have no interest in running Android on my HD2, despite tinkering with it already.
I have my eye on the 'Desire HD'.

Kalavere said:
I should think it would be stable and you may well be able to flash it to the internal ROM, or at least have a dual boot option. Personally I have no interest in running Android on my HD2, despite tinkering with it already.
I have my eye on the 'Desire HD'.
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may i ask why? do you like Winmo better?

dvigue said:
may i ask why? do you like Winmo better?
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I have never tried Android, but I do like WM 6.5.x a lot, but it's well on the way out now. I'll be gunning for an Android phone next I think, and the 'Desire HD' looks like it will fit the bill nicely.

When I was considering the HD2 or the Android, the main reason I chose the HD2 was because of WM6.5. Despite all the bad impression, WM is still fairly stable for me. Furthermore, you can only install apps onto Device Memory using Android. How many programs do you think you can get onto the Device Memory?
I have an 8gb card (standard issue) and I have no qualms installing a program and playing with it for a while, and don't need to worry about memory becoming too low...

otacon said:
When I was considering the HD2 or the Android, the main reason I chose the HD2 was because of WM6.5. Despite all the bad impression, WM is still fairly stable for me. Furthermore, you can only install apps onto Device Memory using Android. How many programs do you think you can get onto the Device Memory?
I have an 8gb card (standard issue) and I have no qualms installing a program and playing with it for a while, and don't need to worry about memory becoming too low...
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You can install apps on the memory card now... was added in 2.1 or 2.2

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HTC EVO 4G ROM on HTC HD2

Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
AMoosa said:
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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Most likely.... If the interest is their, someone will build it.
ahh yes.
AMoosa said:
Will the EVO 4G hardware be close enough to the HD2 for it to help the Android on HTC project to put Android on the HD2? Any thoughts?
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indeed thats the question we are all waiting for the answer to..
lets hope it helps..
An interesting concept, there are those that are asking if Windows Phone7 is going to work with the HTC HD2 as well. Be nice if we could choose either. The HD2 is a lovely piece of kit.
when is the evo actually out? nobody got a whiff of a leaked rom?
got an hd2 myself, would love to get android
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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yes, yoda.
johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
boomer30 said:
Suddenly I can hear Yodas voice as I am reading this........
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Joke you did get, much funny it was.
Complete my goal is
May the force be with you
I'm not so sure about this....
With the Evo not coming to UK waters and no other screen size planned this side of the pond the ROM on the HD2 may well be the only answer.
However, lets not forget.. the Evo has a lot inside which will be different to the HD2 and these short comings won't make the HD2 an Evo in disguise.
It may end up being a sheep in wolf's clothing.
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
Aridon said:
I don't think you'll see it because of driver issues but if enough people want it anything is possible.
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More like, if the right person wants it.
same processor ... different board... no go
need hlevel eprom acess ... not posible software wise
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
Lobo Lansky said:
Heres my 2 cents. If they already managed to port android for iphone then hell yeah its gonna happen. who would have thought that the iphone was gonna get android.
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they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
blazing4phoenix said:
they dont have android on the iphone it is a theme
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No its android dualbooted
http://www.neverknowtech.com/home/2010/4/25/how-to-put-android-on-your-iphone-with-video.html
XAnimal said:
No its android dualbooted
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Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
Scott Spillers said:
Not to mention that the iPhone doesn't support themes.
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Tell that to Winterboard and AndroidLock. But yes, theming isn't supported natively.
However the iPhone port of Android is an actual native port, loaded using OpeniBoot, a custom "iBoot"-style bootloader. And you thought the HTCSPL system was tricky...
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johnsongrantr said:
work it will not
incompatible the drivers will be
hmmm... porting winmo gsm radio driver to android, much trouble it will be.
impossible it is not, but long journey I see for you.
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Belated, but May the Fourth be with you.
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
Mecha2142 said:
I find it quite unlikely. Developers are still trying to get Android EMULATED, not installed, on the Touch Pro, and that version still suffers from poor battery life and frequent errors.
You can't just drag and drop ROMS from completely different operating systems onto different phones; otherwise, all phones would be sold without an OS installed.
The two phones may be similar in regards to features, but the insides are completely different. For example, the Evo has a maXTouch sensor, while the HD2 does not. So, while you may be able to get Android emulated on the HD2, it doesn't look like it's going to be very possible to transform it into an Evo by giving it the latter's ROM.
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Since i've got android on my Sprint Vogue, i'd say it's possible if the right people want it to happen.

Good idea?

Hi guys, I have one question
Can be good idea install Win Phone 7 in my Hd2?
thx
I know that a lot pple love w7, but in my opinion is mmmm....
It's your choice mater and wrong forum. Do some reading and make your choice if you want it.
Personally loading WP7 to my HD2 is the best thing i ever did, surprisingly it feels very good to use.
good idea: flashing WP7 on your HD2 with dual-boot Android 2.3 off SD
bad idea: flashing a .51 radio on your tmous hd2
Dual Boot
orangekid said:
good idea: flashing WP7 on your HD2 with dual-boot Android 2.3 off SD
bad idea: flashing a .51 radio on your tmous hd2
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I've thought of doing the dual boot WP7 & Android, but I only have a 16GB SD card and running WP7 only I've used 10GB already and I'm not installing much waiting for nodo update.
What size do you have? And do you find any problems?
Cheers
Tnx, but no tnx... I will stay out with win phone 7, until someone made it bootable from SD card
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I'm back with WM6.5 with Android on SD.
WP7 runs very well on the HD2, just not got the extreme flexibility of WM6.5
Wait for the NODO HD2 update, if it ever arrives that is...
[email protected] said:
I've thought of doing the dual boot WP7 & Android, but I only have a 16GB SD card and running WP7 only I've used 10GB already and I'm not installing much waiting for nodo update.
What size do you have? And do you find any problems?
Cheers
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I use a 4gb partition for WP7 and the rest for Android on my SD card, everything works perfect with no more needed space.
maverickwm said:
Hi guys, I have one question
Can be good idea install Win Phone 7 in my Hd2?
thx
I know that a lot pple love w7, but in my opinion is mmmm....
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It's up to you. I've installed WP7 on my HD2 and love it. Sure, can't tweak the settings like in WM6.5, but now I have more time to do other things with my life than to constantly tweak my phone.
I'm finally getting my money's worth from my data plan. LOL
To reiterate...to each his own. And for those who don't want to install WP7, what are you doing in the WP7 forum bad mouthing the platform? Go and be happy with what you're running on your phone and leave the people who want to explore WP7 alone.
hjhjhj said:
It's up to you. I've installed WP7 on my HD2 and love it. Sure, can't tweak the settings like in WM6.5, but now I have more time to do other things with my life than to constantly tweak my phone.
I'm finally getting my money's worth from my data plan. LOL
To reiterate...to each his own. And for those who don't want to install WP7, what are you doing in the WP7 forum bad mouthing the platform? Go and be happy with what you're running on your phone and leave the people who want to explore WP7 alone.
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+1 on every single thing he said!
Absolutly agree with previous post!!!
norgan said:
It's your choice mater and wrong forum. Do some reading and make your choice if you want it.
Personally loading WP7 to my HD2 is the best thing i ever did, surprisingly it feels very good to use.
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yeah I freaking LOVE WP7 Microsoft has something here. Excpet one bad thing....its Microsoft so you know how that works.. Needs Wifi tethering and different Mapped buttons like i have said a billion times I seriously doubt they will be able to change the map of the buttons..thats why HD2 never received a WP7 upgrade ...but whatever I'll continue to support it its excellent
maverickwm said:
Hi guys, I have one question
Can be good idea install Win Phone 7 in my Hd2?
thx
I know that a lot pple love w7, but in my opinion is mmmm....
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After 4 months (or more) everyday use of it I can say YES
Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995
is the most stable ^^
actually the best idea ever would be if there thread wasn't in the development sub forum

[Q] What would you do with a new HD2?

By new I dont mean iv just bought it I mean I have not flashed it or loaded any new ROMS on it.
What would be the nicest Operating System and ROM be to read up on, Im a complete nOOb unfortunately so i just want to be gently pushed in the right direction for the reading material which I know is always the first point of action.
I have seen a youtube video showing off the Gingerbread 2.3 system on android and wanted to know your thoughts. I mainly use the phone for watching vids, text, email, googlemaps, facebook and sportypal.
Thanks for any help you wish to put forward to me
I guess you´ll have to find out yourself.
If you don´t like the "native" Windows Mobile with Sense on your HD2, the only option which includes Google Maps is definitely Android.
There are so many choices on this side... why don´t you start using some SD builds of Android, which you can use for trials with Android, as a second OS next to Windows Mobile? This way, you could have the "best of both worlds".
In a next step, you could move completely to Android with a NAND build.
Why dont you first try a SD version of Android first.
Assuming you have Windows Mobile currently and a SD card
1) Download this zip file --> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1W38WURX
2)Extract the folder Android to your memory card.
3)On your phone go to the folder Android which has all the files extracted
4)Run CLRAD.exe and then HARET.exe and your phone will go into the Android OS
thanks to both posters above this is exactly what I wanted to hear, I know all about this question being one that the regulars hate but Iv tried doing searches but when you dont know what your searching for its kinda hard, I think Im reading up on the right stuff now cheers
tictac0566 said:
In a next step, you could move completely to Android with a NAND build.
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To be honest, you don't even need to change to NAND. I haven't bothered (yes, I'm a noob too), but I'm extremely happy with AmeriCanAndroid on SD. Decent battery life (apparently NAND is better, but I personally think it is good enough on SD), extremely smooth and stable Android 2.3.4 OS, and I can always go back to WinMo at any time (although why would you possibly want to do that )
+1 to all above. SD ROMs are good for testing and some for a daily driver. If you decide you want only Android like many of us... go to NAND later. The speed, performance, everything is amazing on a device 1.5 years old. I run EVERYTHING on my NAND ROMs with no lag (CM or MiUi).
Sense never ran well for me. No biggie since I'll be getting a Sense 3.0 overdose soon.
yeah Im going to just run it from the SD and see how i get on, just looking to see which ROM I prefer, looking at jaguar miui, it gets good remarks in the thread from users,,, a quick question If I use the SD card to run the ROM will i still be able to use the MP3s from the same SD card? probably a stupid question
Ninhydrin said:
yeah Im going to just run it from the SD and see how i get on, just looking to see which ROM I prefer, looking at jaguar miui, it gets good remarks in the thread from users,,, a quick question If I use the SD card to run the ROM will i still be able to use the MP3s from the same SD card? probably a stupid question
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Yes
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Ninhydrin said:
yeah Im going to just run it from the SD and see how i get on, just looking to see which ROM I prefer, looking at jaguar miui, it gets good remarks in the thread from users,,, a quick question If I use the SD card to run the ROM will i still be able to use the MP3s from the same SD card? probably a stupid question
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MiUi is personally my favorite ROM. Even if you took away all the eyecandy stuff MiUi is great at, I still think I would run it over CM. And I love CM.
digiholic said:
MiUi is personally my favorite ROM. Even if you took away all the eyecandy stuff MiUi is great at, I still think I would run it over CM. And I love CM.
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MIUI sucks for it imitates the iPoop
backlashsid said:
MIUI sucks for it imitates the iPoop
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I never tried it for a long time because of comments like that. I tested it out because I always thought it looked girly and would be great on my woman's phone. Was a long time CM user but after two hours with MiUi I missed nothing from CM and actually found myself loving features that I didn't seem to get with CM.
I don't care if MiUi imitates a steaming pile of poop... the fact is it has so much functionality, so much eyecandy, and it NEVER lags for me. So fast and I run with everything turned on and power-use my HD2 like you wouldn't believe.
I still love CM and probably always will recommend it... but I get bored with it but not with MiUi.
My experience!?
If you ever flash your phone with android you would never go back to windows.
I have my HD2 since over one year and changed the OS two weeks ago. It is never more usefull with all this available apps.
A big thanks to all developers here, they make a great job cooking their roms and share with us.
cheers

[Q] Just got a HD2, where to start?

So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
Android is better, but it's your mind.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nac3Fnf-lY4&noredirect=1
FAQ in RUS, nothing terrible, juct read: http://w7phone.ru/ustanovka-windows-phone-mango-na-htc-hd2-47917/
First of all for new users, as i was a new user, i recommend read carefully about flashing your hd2, find all info here in xda, because you can really can mess up your phone. There is things that you can do, and you cannot. So be patient, and study how to flash everything, ant then start to do
like they say measure 9times before you cut...
To much trouble with win7... flash android the get a win7 launcher
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WP7 is a lot of work in to install and you can have several issues related to battery life, SD card compatibility, and how even a compatible SD card can effect battery life. That said, I prefer WP7 to Android for aesthetic reasons.
The ROM is use is here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236027
If you go this route, I recommend the 7004-7720 one-shot upgrade. The whole guide is in the second post, and there are other, more better explanations, to help the tutorial make sense. I had to use the those ones first.
When you succeed in installing WP7, you can also dual boot Android from SD. That comes with its own set of issues, as Android runs best from NAND.
So... which would you like to try first? So long as you flash HSPL correctly, and the correct radio, it's actually really hard to brick your device.
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
poisas said:
I must agree with everybody, beleave us... android vs windows is 3times more speed with any aplication, browsing, photos, music everything works more than 3xtimes faster... go with gingerbread android... trust me you will be suprised how fast it its...
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I'm not sure that's a fully accurate statement, or there wouldn't be a bunch of us using WP7 on the HD2. It's just a bit more complicated to get going and can have major issues related to SD cards. Mine is quite fast. I very much prefer the UI to Android, but there are things I prefer Android over WP7 for.
Regardless, it's hard to brick the HD2, provided HSPL and correct radio are flashed. There's no reason to not try either and see which meets the OP's personal preference.
Only take 4 simple steps to load android
kompheak said:
Only take 4 simple steps to load android
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That's not the point! Ugh!!!
Lol... hows that not the point?
kompheak said:
Lol... hows that not the point?
Read the original post:
streakau said:
So, I just got a stock hd2 with winmo 6.5 and would like to install wp7 can somebody please explain how I can do this.
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He's asking about WP7 and all you guys are doing is saying that Android is better/easier to install. That's not the point and doesn't answer the question. If you can't give feedback about the WP7 installation process, then why are you even posting here?
We all know that Android is "better", more versatile, easier to run. That's not even up for debate. So, why are you trying to convince him not to do something he wants to do. The HD2 is one of the most hackable phones around and it's hard to brick. Why not try WP7, Android, or both? Geesh!

[Q] some advice pls

hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
no one???
walidhazem said:
no one???
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look around. No one answers these threads, especially when you ask for detailed analys of each roms specialities. ALL the roms are the best. If there were a best rom we'd all be using it.
As for android on band, yes its comparable to a real android device. Better than many, in fact.
Thx
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walidhazem said:
hi guys.
So i have wp 7.5 nand and im kinda getting bored of it even though its stability is amazing(also speed) and i have android on my sd but all theses sd roms arent that satisfying so i am considering moving to android nand.
ive seen many nand roms that look amazing and my question is if i install nand on it will it be the same as a native android device (speed, stability,.battery etc...)
and do u think i should do that change?
if yes then please recommend some roms with eachs specialty
thanks
Note: i install many apps like 200+ thats why sd builds never agree with me, so also consider that(i have searched, watched videos but...)
thanks again
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If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
stevedebi said:
If you have the US model, the NRG NAND is working well for me. It will not be as fast as the newest devices, but it is quite usable.
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thx for you reply
it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256581
I have been trying 20+ roms. This one is pretty fast.
I install plenty apps, and this rom does not slow down. It is as fast as the wm rom.
Sense 2.1 looks old but it is perfect for our "older " phone. With this rom I have fully working Wi-Fi tethering. It is not build in the rom, but I can make it work
84DGR said:
it took me well over a year to get my HD2 from WM6.5 to android, now im running a beta version of android 4.0.1 its great.
i suggest you really look into it to begin with, if you do decide to do it i would get the HTC HD2 TOOL Kit, and a CustomRUU from DFT to initially hack the device, these where the things that took me a few go's to figure it out, and youtube is great for advice
hope t helps mate good luck
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The second post of the NRG thread has a great explanation of how to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17584373&postcount=4
It really comes down to personal taste, between cm7, sense, aosp, etc...
But android has come along way on nand and in some cases outperforms alot of phones(this is a 2yr old device but still a beast ;-) ) but just try a few roms and choose one. Grab the hd2 toolkit for your system partions and cwm, and off you go!!
Good luck!
Ps. I personally use tyungs nexushd2 rom
Its just pure awesome gingerbread
sent from my HTC NexusHD2 provided by Tytung

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