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Hi guys,
As you can tell by my username, I am completely new to Android, and naturally to hacking it! Currently I have a stock hero, and and contemplating rooting and flashing it, although I'm having some reservations. While this is my first post, I have been lurking and reading the forums for 2 or 3 weeks now since Damage got a hold of the first Sprint leak. While the whole process looks pretty simple, I have seen how random many of the problems, such as the audio issue are. Some people seem to have no problems, while others have a s#!tstorm of them.
I am not normally one to fix things that aren't broken, and (knock on wood) I haven't really had any of the issues others with stock phones have had. I have never once had a problem with sending or receiving MMS, and most of the lag and quirkiness I am able to live with. On the flip side of that coin, I have read up on Google's Android dev pages all of the changes and enhancements made in 1.6 and 2.0, and am itching to get them on my phone. Like a lot of other people, I am eagerly awaiting Sprint's official release, but am not holding much hope that it will be here this month.
In any event, since I registered I figured I would just say "Hi," while I decide what to do (becoming impatient waiting for the official) and hope that the novel I just wrote hasn't bored anyone to death
Eric

noobmodder said:
Hi guys,
As you can tell by my username, I am completely new to Android, and naturally to hacking it! Currently I have a stock hero, and and contemplating rooting and flashing it, although I'm having some reservations. While this is my first post, I have been lurking and reading the forums for 2 or 3 weeks now since Damage got a hold of the first Sprint leak. While the whole process looks pretty simple, I have seen how random many of the problems, such as the audio issue are. Some people seem to have no problems, while others have a s#!tstorm of them.
I am not normally one to fix things that aren't broken, and (knock on wood) I haven't really had any of the issues others with stock phones have had. I have never once had a problem with sending or receiving MMS, and most of the lag and quirkiness I am able to live with. On the flip side of that coin, I have read up on Google's Android dev pages all of the changes and enhancements made in 1.6 and 2.0, and am itching to get them on my phone. Like a lot of other people, I am eagerly awaiting Sprint's official release, but am not holding much hope that it will be here this month.
In any event, since I registered I figured I would just say "Hi," while I decide what to do (becoming impatient waiting for the official) and hope that the novel I just wrote hasn't bored anyone to death
Eric
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Well... here's your greeting to you:
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I'm just kidding. Welcome, welcome. If you need help, there are plenty of people here knowledgeable enough to help you in anyway. Just make sure you use the SEARCH button thoroughly!
Otherwise, cya around.

welcome in!
welcome aboard! its really not hard to root and try new roms. i would recommend rooting and backing up then trying a stable 1.5 rom like fresh, do a nandroid back up of it then dive into the 2.1 roms. you can always go back to a nandroid back up if you ave issues. read as much as you can first.
i flashed over to the newest fresh with pri=170_03 and prl=60663 and havent had any issues. nothing works quite perfectly (very, very minor issues) but then again stock doesnt either (as you have noticed and commented on).
dip your toes in and have a go. it is worth it. the devs here have done a fantastic job.
cheers,
ryan

Frankly, I see no harm in at least TRYING a custom 2.1 ROM out, since during the process of initially rooting, you are told to do a "nandroid" backup. With that backup, you can go back to the stock ROM should you have unbearable problems with a custom one. (or if you just don't like them..)
It should be noted that when the OFFICIAL 2.1 drops, theres a very good chance that they will have patched the root exploit, leaving you with the stock sprint rom (and bloatware)
My suggestion is this.. Test out a few of the custom roms.. Fresh 2.0d and Damagecontrol 2.06 are great places to start.. If you don't like them, go back to your 1.5 stock or a 1.5 custom rom, and wait for the official 2.1 and a custom rom based off of that..
Just my two cents.

When did this forum become "xda-developers-personals.com"?

Welcome Noobmodder, you will come to enjoy the excellent resources this forum has to offer. Beware though, it could be detrimental to your personal relationships as flashing and modding can be as addictive as drinking and gambling! lol

Speaking of, I've been meaning to say this to you troy..
I don't know what Troy you are speaking of, but my fiance is from Troy, Tn.. So you probably know each other if that's what your troy means... Because from all that I've seen, there's not too many people out that way..lol..

Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!

Welcome to the party!!
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Speaking of, I've been meaning to say this to you troy..
I don't know what Troy you are speaking of, but my fiance is from Troy, Tn.. So you probably know each other if that's what your troy means... Because from all that I've seen, there's not too many people out that way..lol..
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Troy is actually my first name and I live in Knoxville, TN (eastern state). I believe, Troy is near UT Martin if I recall correctly (west TN). Nice area.

noobmodder said:
Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!
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Basically, once you have a recovery image flashed, and a nandroid of your stock rom, there really isn't much to worry about (as far as a brick goes)
Flash away!

Let us know if you need any help. If you have been lurking for a couple of weeks you probably won't have any issues rooting and flashing, but just the same let us know if you do run into any problems.
If you have not rooted yet I recommend using Fresh's kitchen.
Here's the link.
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-pre-kitchen-02

noobmodder said:
Thanks for the welcome! The main reason I am a little nervous about the whole process is the hero is my only Sprint phone, so I don't have a backup phone if this one gets messed up, nor can I afford one at the moment. But, it's just a phone after all, so I think I'm gonna go for it. I am gonna try DC 2.06, or see what RegawMOD 2.1 has in store for us a little later this evening.
Thanks in advance for any help! We'll see how this goes!
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Modding is not a spectator sport. You need to decide if you want to get your hands dirty because staying on the bleachers you won't see much
Just make sure you keep reading everything you can find on this forum until you feel comfortable giving it a shot. If there's something you don't understand or something that's bothering you then hold off. It's better to approach modding your phone with full confidence and some knowledge under your belt then find yourself on your knees begging for mercy from Sprint's local customer service czar.

Ok guys!
Just rooted and flashed DC 2.06 and I have a question. Does this version of DC still need the CDMA Auto PRL setting changed like in the past?

noobmodder said:
Ok guys!
Just rooted and flashed DC 2.06 and I have a question. Does this version of DC still need the CDMA Auto PRL setting changed like in the past?
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I've been monitoring this for a while, and with both Flipz's .03 radio and his .10 radio, I haven't needed to change it. Of course, this is with mulitple restarts thanks to the audio bug.

Disregard this post

It's pretty hard to brick your phone, unless you flash a radio.img incorrectly. Like I said, there's plenty of people that are experienced enough with Android to help you out. Not to mention, almost any errors you encounter will mostly already be documented and have solutions.

Returning the Atrix tonight.

Many of you called me a baby after half the features out of the Atrix's box did not work. Here are some of the problems:
Internet problems. Oh god, so many internet problems.
1) Hemorrhaging data with WiFi on. Why is this even possible? There were four programs I had to change in order not to use my regular Data plan. That's three too much. "Why bother to get the Atrix if you don't want to learn how to customize and set things?"
I literally had to hunt down the things that were not using WiFI when connected to my home WiFi. If the Android OS is like this, I literally do not want it. If you are connected to WiFi there should be NO option to ever use regular data because it's ****ing common sense. I mean I was using 50 MB/DAY when I was using 50 MB/MONTH on my iPhone. What programs were doing this? Not FB, since I have no apps installed.
2) EMail won't work. And by won't work, I don't mean that problem I had with no TLS option from Motorola that prevented my school email from working with the default app requiring me to use another app to manage my gmail and email. I mean that it won't ****ing work. Gmail won't load, Gtalk won't load (LITERALLY WILL NOT LOAD EVEN ON WIFI) and it won't refresh. I got it to work on the first day and then after that forget it. I sent test emails from three different accounts. I would get them 2, 3, 4 hours later - NEW EMAIL! Not in inbox. Just new email notification. Installed another email app after rooting. Won't load. Just refreshes 24/7 until I force close, then restart application. "Why not just push it to your gmail?" I like to keep my school and personal gmail separated. God forbid I want that.
3) lmfao at design. Power button on back. I installed volume rockers. Phone is hilariously bad at this point when you have to mod it so it can turn on like regular phones (flat on a table).
4) internet speeds:
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Is there any argument for this at all? There shouldn't be. "Oh my Atrix is slow too!" No. You don't know slow. That above is SLOW.
All in all, this was a horrible, horrible first foray into Android. I know some people are going to say, Why bother get a customizable phone if you're going to ***** and whine and be a baby about not wanting to customize things?
I draw the analogy at Windows PC = Android phone. Windows PCs work fine right out of the box, you can use it right out of the box without having to download a thousand things. Sure, you CAN customize it, but the machine should work. For me, this was not the case. It took two days of rooted customization and it STILL doesn't work.
So what, just go back to the iPhone? I was looking for the Android as the way out of the monotonous iPhone. But it does work for me. I like to customize things, but when it comes to downloading app after app after app to get it to work minimally like I want it to? Done.

And I'm home! The guy was incredibly cool. Good luck Atrix users!

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And I'm home! The guy was incredibly cool. Good luck Atrix users!
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Sorry the device didn't work for you. Glad to see you tried though.
Out of curiosity, what are you going to next?

I had my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy II S, assuming it comes to AT&T. But I am going to be XXXXXXX. I am going to go to the store, and ask to mess with it for no less than 1 hour. If school email loads, speed test apps are decent, and assuming school WiFi works without taking 2 hours, then I don't see why not. The Atrix looked good when I could use it for the 20 minutes that I did.
But in the event that I just ****ing hate Android, looks like it's the iPhone 4_ in the summer for me. I get my upgrade back in 2 days and my 3G is more than kickin' it and I can wait a few months because my phone works the way I want it to. I'm not the biggest Apple fan but if it works, it works.

Happy you are now happy with your phone - Could you watch the language please? Read the forum rules...

Oops, sorry. I was just so frustrated but now I'm decently happy.

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I had my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy II S, assuming it comes to AT&T. But I am going to be XXXXXXX. I am going to go to the store, and ask to mess with it for no less than 1 hour. If school email loads, speed test apps are decent, and assuming school WiFi works without taking 2 hours, then I don't see why not. The Atrix looked good when I could use it for the 20 minutes that I did.
But in the event that I just ****ing hate Android, looks like it's the iPhone 4_ in the summer for me. I get my upgrade back in 2 days and my 3G is more than kickin' it and I can wait a few months because my phone works the way I want it to. I'm not the biggest Apple fan but if it works, it works.
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Just a thought
Please don't get the Samsung Galaxy II S, at least not right at release. Think about a phone that's been out on the market for a while and has a lot of the bugs and issues worked out.

pfaction said:
I had my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy II S, assuming it comes to AT&T. But I am going to be XXXXXXX. I am going to go to the store, and ask to mess with it for no less than 1 hour. If school email loads, speed test apps are decent, and assuming school WiFi works without taking 2 hours, then I don't see why not. The Atrix looked good when I could use it for the 20 minutes that I did.
But in the event that I just ****ing hate Android, looks like it's the iPhone 4_ in the summer for me. I get my upgrade back in 2 days and my 3G is more than kickin' it and I can wait a few months because my phone works the way I want it to. I'm not the biggest Apple fan but if it works, it works.
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Why are you going to a galaxy s 2? Most of your complaints are with android not the atrix. The 'phantom data' your talking about is probably just a sleep setting with your wifi, the power button was necessary for the fingerprint scanner (which works awesomely). Your just an average iPhone user, your phone has to do everything for you, and you hate choices. Enjoy mediocrity.

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Why are you going to a galaxy s 2? Most of your complaints are with android not the atrix. The 'phantom data' your talking about is probably just a sleep setting with your wifi, the power button was necessary for the fingerprint scanner (which works awesomely). Your just an average iPhone user, your phone has to do everything for you, and you hate choices. Enjoy mediocrity.
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Hahahaha, do what he said

so i am curious to know.. if i return my atrix is inspire 4g the way to go.. ?

The inspire has its own issues. Bad/mediocre battery life is a major one. Although a plus is its currently running at 1.8 ghz, and its got cm support which the atrix will probably never get.

Yeah, I'm with the other people that you should go back to iPhone. I think your first two issues were with Android in general, as you so erroneously analogized Android with Windows since it's more like Unix than anything else.
Android definitely requires a lot of set up. I would even have to agree that the menu options seems somewhat disorganized, especially with the "hidden" menu button options when you're ALREADY IN THE MENU.

Please go back to papa steve
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isn't it too late to get iPhone 4 now?? i think at&t does not have various android options like Verizon does... which bothers me.. i mean At&t gets inspire4g where as Verizon gets the better version that is Thunderbolt.. I don't get it.. i thunderbolt came to At&t i wouldn't think about anything and just get that one.. it has all the features and its awesome looking... Inspire on the other hand is just like the Desire HD.. still HTC sense is beasty...
I mean I wanna know whether most of the people who are returning their Atrix.. what are they going for instead.. are they still sticking with At&t or changing to another phone... which i don't see much options other than Aria, iPhone, Inspire, few Blackberry and the extreme late comer Windows phone 7?

anirudh15891 said:
isn't it too late to get iPhone 4 now?? i think at&t does not have various android options like Verizon does... which bothers me.. i mean At&t gets inspire4g where as Verizon gets the better version that is Thunderbolt.. I don't get it.. i thunderbolt came to At&t i wouldn't think about anything and just get that one.. it has all the features and its awesome looking... Inspire on the other hand is just like the Desire HD.. still HTC sense is beasty...
I mean I wanna know whether most of the people who are returning their Atrix.. what are they going for instead.. are they still sticking with At&t or changing to another phone... which i don't see much options other than Aria, iPhone, Inspire, few Blackberry and the extreme late comer Windows phone 7?
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If people are complaining about Inspire battery life just wait for the Thunderbolt battery life.
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pfaction said:
I had my eyes on the Samsung Galaxy II S, assuming it comes to AT&T. But I am going to be XXXXXXX. I am going to go to the store, and ask to mess with it for no less than 1 hour. If school email loads, speed test apps are decent, and assuming school WiFi works without taking 2 hours, then I don't see why not. The Atrix looked good when I could use it for the 20 minutes that I did.
But in the event that I just ****ing hate Android, looks like it's the iPhone 4_ in the summer for me. I get my upgrade back in 2 days and my 3G is more than kickin' it and I can wait a few months because my phone works the way I want it to. I'm not the biggest Apple fan but if it works, it works.
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If you thought the atrix was bad, then you definitely don't want Samsung, they are the worst android phone manufacturer. Don't ever expect an update with them and if you get one it will probably brick your phone. The only thing that's made my Samsung vibrant worthwhile is the amazing developer community who has made the phone 1000 times better than Samsung's software development team.
End of rant.
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yea heard its gonna be awful as well.. in fact they delayed the release cause the battery was just awful.. well aside that at least it is quite current compared to the inspire.. i mean there is much difference but still it looks and i am guess would feel better.. also it has front facing camera which is not a big deal in general but at least it is included for future use ..maybe. and it has a kick stand.
BTW is it too late now to go for EVO 4g?

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If people are complaining about Inspire battery life just wait for the Thunderbolt battery life.
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since you have a desire.. hows the battery life in yours? does it at least last a day or a bit less than that? cause isn't it based the same for the inspire./..
the thing is i initially returned my inspire cause i wanted a better spec phone .. and i thought the Atrix would get rooted soon and also the bootloader will get unlocked.. but after spending days on these forums it doesn't look like anything is gonna happen with the bootloader.. obviously it is good to wait.. i guess.. for another 22 days for me..lol but now i am thinking to return this device and getting the inspire back... ..
no idea what to do..

"re upgrade"
i got a general question.. for AT&T can i get my upgrade possibility back? like return the phone and get my upgrade back instead of using it for another device.. will i definitely get the upgrade back? Kinda new to AT&T so.. not sure

anirudh15891 said:
i got a general question.. for AT&T can i get my upgrade possibility back? like return the phone and get my upgrade back instead of using it for another device.. will i definitely get the upgrade back? Kinda new to AT&T so.. not sure
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You should be able to, but from my past experience, I've always had to contact CSR (just a hassle) . You should also make sure they roll back your contract.

AT&T Xperia Play Photos

Here are pictures of my AT&T Xperia Play! I met up with a guy from Fremont CA and he wanted a iphone 4 + cash on top. Where he got it he couldn't say but so far it's unreleased on the AT&T network. When I connect it to my pc, it has a system update for it already but i'm kinda hesitant to do so until it's officially released to the public.
In one picture it shows "EDGE" for the network on the home screen but I guarantee this is no R800i model or some photoshop BS. It connects to H+ once I get out of my house. I just made some quick pictures of the AT&T built in apps and phone properties in the settings.
YES the phone has AT&Ts lock for sideloading apps. I'm trying to get this to connect to my pc with Android Injector but the program doesn't recognize the phone for some reason even when the sony software suite the phone installs onto my Win7 PC.
I'm new to this forum and don't have 8posts to put yet so if any senior members would like to repost the pictures please do! Lemme know if there is any other pics needed. Sorry for the dark one, I snapped that one before I went to sleep in poor lighting.
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how come AT&T get android 2.3.3 and we get 2.3.2?

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Here are pictures of my AT&T Xperia Play! I met up with a guy from Fremont CA and he wanted a iphone 4 + cash on top. Where he got it he couldn't say but so far it's unreleased on the AT&T network. When I connect it to my pc, it has a system update for it already but i'm kinda hesitant to do so until it's officially released to the public.
In one picture it shows "EDGE" for the network on the home screen but I guarantee this is no R800i model or some photoshop BS. It connects to H+ once I get out of my house. I just made some quick pictures of the AT&T built in apps and phone properties in the settings.
YES the phone has AT&Ts lock for sideloading apps. I'm trying to get this to connect to my pc with Android Injector but the program doesn't recognize the phone for some reason even when the sony software suite the phone installs onto my Win7 PC.
I'm new to this forum and don't have 8posts to put yet so if any senior members would like to repost the pictures please do! Lemme know if there is any other pics needed. Sorry for the dark one, I snapped that one before I went to sleep in poor lighting.
h t t p://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c42/warudakumi/XPAPRIL%202011
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Was the Sony software suite you mentioned the PC Companion? And have you tried installing ADB? That's what I used for sideloading apps onto my Motorola Backflip.
I would recommend checking out these topics:
[HOW-TO] ADB for Dummies(How-To Learner's Guide)
[GUIDE] ADB, Fastboot, and Nandroid for Noobs
[ADB Setup] Motorola Backflip (This is what I used and it might be similar for the Xperia Play.)

Did you try to fastboot into it? :3

Thanks guys for the tips! I may try ADB this weekend. Nope I didn't try to fastboot it but I also haven't tried rooting the phone yet either. I've just ordered some generic cases off e-bay because the OE plastic protective film is starting to come off the front and back. As a temporary fix I'm using a Japanese X10 screen film and stretched a blackberry storm rubber case over it. Functional yes...but playable function no but i'm not trying to scratch the phone up with one little mistake.
Yup it's the PC Companion software and it has AT&Ts glove logo in the upper left. As soon as I plug the phone in, it says there is an update for the phone. This being a unreleased AT&T test phone, im kinda scared to try it at the moment because I'm unsure what it's going to do. Baseband update? UI fixes? The Xperia Home does however crash sometimes when doing a cold boot and I have to force close before it loads normally. Coming from an iphone 2G-4, i've been pretty good as far as not updating too often. I don't think AT&T would be like Apple remotely kill the phone like they did the iphone 4 but who knows.
Do any of you have a R800 i or a model and got asked to update via the companion on day one upon release?
I promise to have more better pix this weekend. Just busy with work at the moment.

Does it have Timescape or other Sony specific bloatware installed? What about brightness? Is it adjustable or no? The Verizon edition is supposedly vanilla android with a few VZ apps. Wondering if the AT&T model is the same. Does it have a code number like R800at anywhere?

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Does it have Timescape or other Sony specific bloatware installed? What about brightness? Is it adjustable or no? The Verizon edition is supposedly vanilla android with a few VZ apps. Wondering if the AT&T model is the same. Does it have a code number like R800at anywhere?
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I read a few posts already claiming that the verizon model will be vanilla android... but who said that? did someone saw the phone already?
do we have a source?
i dont understand why Sony Ericsson will let Verizon to remove all their soft, and then SE giving Verizon the exclusive for the US... to be honest, i dont think so, otherwise i wouldnt mind to give you any exclusive, and you will have to sell it like all the rest of phone companies at launch time....
just my 2 cents...

tanquef said:
I read a few posts already claiming that the verizon model will be vanilla android... but who said that? did someone saw the phone already?
do we have a source?
i dont understand why Sony Ericsson will let Verizon to remove all their soft, and then SE giving Verizon the exclusive for the US... to be honest, i dont think so, otherwise i wouldnt mind to give you any exclusive, and you will have to sell it like all the rest of phone companies at launch time....
just my 2 cents...
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Well on GDC they were showing off the Verizon version of the phone and it had vanilla android. They even said it will come with vanilla android on launch.

They mentioned it at CTIA too...
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/03/21/handson-verizons-sony-ericsson-xperia-play-ctia-2011/

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how come AT&T get android 2.3.3 and we get 2.3.2?
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I have no clue on this but I'm wondering if this has anything to do with The PC Companion software never completing. I bit the bullet and tried to update the phone to see what would happen. The phone software update always fails no matter what as if it can't find the necessary components on Sonys servers.
The other two programs did install on my pc however: File browser and MediaGo and let me say Wow Media Go totally looks like a re-skinned iTunes! Anybody making the transition from iphone to xperia shouldn't have any issues.
Pictures will come later

Hmm... MediaGo Store isn't working....

This morning I fastloaded my Xperia Play and now the bootloader is unlocked. One thing I'm itching to do is use the R800i root method. Do you guys think this will be compatible with my play?? My build number is different.
(PS) couple of more posts and i'll be good to go to upload pix finally

After unlocking my bootloader on my Xperia Play I noticed the AT&T Logo doesn't show up anymore when I connect the phone? Does that mean the warranty is voided now? One thing it never did was finish updating the phone software. It would always get 75% of the way and get an error. This is what it looks like before and after on the Companion Screen.
PS Updated photos on 1st page.
^ Greatest Neogeo fighter in that series....3,4,5,6 were totally unbalanced!

Warudakumi said:
This morning I fastloaded my Xperia Play and now the bootloader is unlocked. One thing I'm itching to do is use the R800i root method. Do you guys think this will be compatible with my play?? My build number is different.
(PS) couple of more posts and i'll be good to go to upload pix finally
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Wow! I didn't think that Sony Ericsson would have unlocked the bootloader of a R800at version considering that those will most likely be locked to AT&T. Perhaps SE will sell some unlocked in the US through Sony Style or something like that?
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Does it still ask you to update after you unlocked it? And if so, does it complete now? And does it still have the AT&T splash screen when booting, or did that go away too?

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Wow! I didn't think that Sony Ericsson would have unlocked the bootloader of a R800at version considering that those will most likely be locked to AT&T. Perhaps SE will sell some unlocked in the US through Sony Style or something like that?
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Does it still ask you to update after you unlocked it? And if so, does it complete now? And does it still have the AT&T splash screen when booting, or did that go away too?
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When I unlocked the bootloader the Splash logo still remains but however it still doesn't update in the PC Companion. I'm wondering if because it's a "test unit"if this is the reason? It's already on 2.3.3 while I think others mentioned theirs is on 2.2.2??? Maybe the software is trying to update to 2.3.3 but realizes it's already updated? I don't know. However the phone is kinda buggy... If I do a cold boot, the phone always crashes the home launcher even on a fresh system cleanup. I really want to root this phone but I don't want to brick my unit trying the R800i method.
I still can't sideload for some reason. I tried Android Injector and Android Side Wonder Machine. The SDK can detect the phone but A.S.W.M doesn't for some odd reason?
I want to root so I can edit the adata folder and hex edit the manufacturer settings file and turn on "unknown sources to true" I hate having to sideload but at this point I can't even if I wanted to. I want to sideload my n64oid and psx4android but those aren't in the market place anymore.
This is a picture of a harsh crash that occured while attempting to run a PSX game in FPSe.

Any luck getting ADB to work? I've never used either of those side-loading programs, but ADB always worked with my Backflip. Eventually I used Z4 to root it, but I don't know if that'll work on the Play.

Finally Rooted! Gingerbreak
Well I bit the bullet and tried Gingerbreak 1.2 and it succesfuly rooted my
R800at! Scary thing tho was the fact that it took approximately 13-min to do. The phones SD card was mounted but the phone was doing something funky with the SD-card showing the unmounted "safe to remove sd icon". I got scared after reading peoples posts saying it only took about 1min on their devices.
I then tried tapping on the memory card in settings to remount but got Force Close errors! I then waited a little longer as the phone wasn't actually frozen..so maybe it was still thinking? then BAM! phone just turned off! I turned it back on and there was only a black screen with a dim backlight for about 2-3min. I was thinking to myself $*@T i just bricked the phone! 2more minutes passed and then the Sony Ericcson logo came up...frozen followed by the AT&T logo which seemed to freeze for about a good 2-3min as well.
Well patience paid off because I'm glad I didn't force power off the system while Gingerbreak was doing it's magic! I guess with the r800at it just needs some more time to setup. approx (15min) I rooted a Generic IPAD "flytab" with 1.6 android with a custom rom and it took about that long just to startup the first time...
Now I just want native "unknown sources" sideloading to be enabled and i'll be good to go.
MechaBouncer said:
Any luck getting ADB to work? I've never used either of those side-loading programs, but ADB always worked with my Backflip. Eventually I used Z4 to root it, but I don't know if that'll work on the Play.
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Got ADB to work finally! Just a dumb user error.... haven't messed with a DOS like environment since 6.22 haha. I had a dumb typo and sure enough I was able to transfer my apk files from my Galaxy Tab over.

Warudakumi said:
Got ADB to work finally! Just a dumb user error.... haven't messed with a DOS like environment since 6.22 haha. I had a dumb typo and sure enough I was able to transfer my apk files from my Galaxy Tab over.
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Excellent! Glad to hear. I know ADB can be a little cumbersome at times, but it's very useful. Plus the commands you use in it are pretty similar to using the terminal on the phone. I'm still not sure if there's a way to just turn on the option for installing from unknown sources. That would be ideal. At least now we know that it is possible to sideload apps on the R800at.

Don't buy a phone from radio shack

I saw today that radio shack has the evo 4g for $30 with a contract, and since I was due, I snagged one right up!!
As the girl was activating my phone, I went to play with the evo 3d...very cool device, I must say
When I came back, she was in the middle of an OTA update!!!! I asked her to please cancel it because I don't want it. She told me she couldn't, and she had already activated mine, and if I wanted to exchange it I had to use insurance. When I looked back down at the phone, the update had completed
I paid, grabbed my phone off the counter and stomed out of the store.
When I got home, I went straight to XDA to see about rooting it, and to my dismay, I found out because the idiot retard they hired at radio shack had updated it, I'm blocked from rooting!! WTF!!!!!
DO NOT BUY A PHONE FROM RADIO SHACK IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!

Don't walk away while she's activating it?

this isnt a reason to not buy from radioshack...ive gotten all my phones from them and they are so much more reasonable and helpful than sprint, not to mention cheaper...just ask them not to update it and im sure they wont do it

I went with my uncle to Radio Shack today so he could get the $30 EVO deal. I told the guy selling him the phone not to do any OTA updates before he even removed the phone from the box because we wanted to root the phone. The salesman was really cool about this and didn't do anything other than get the phone up and running. Unfortunately, 2.3.3 was already installed on the EVO...so my uncle is stuck without root for now too.

Take it back..say it dont work..they will exchange it..she obviously hasnt a clue about their return policy.
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That's your own fault.. why in the world you would walk away while she's messing with your phone???? Lol now u know!!
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I don't think it would have made a difference. If I'm not mistaken the evo is shipping with 2.3.3 now...the ota she installed was probably from 4.22 to 4.24....neither can be rooted anyway.
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I got a refurb evo a few days ago from sprint and it came with the 2.3 too... new Evos are screwed. We just have to wait for a root method. And i wanted to try Synergy Rom so bad

HolloWX said:
I got a refurb evo a few days ago from sprint and it came with the 2.3 too... new Evos are screwed. We just have to wait for a root method. And i wanted to try Synergy Rom so bad
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Not true at all...go to Best Buy. 4 different Evo's for me, all 2.2. Exchanged both my wife's and mine for hardware issues...and asked the CSM not to do anything to the phone, I'd power it up myself. No update, stock 2.2.
They still had around 20 or so in stock at the Tulsa BB, 71st and 169...for those of you in Tulsa.

spider2346 said:
That's your own fault.. why in the world you would walk away while she's messing with your phone???? Lol now u know!!
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how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol

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how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol
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Disclamier - I do not work for RadioShack but have worked in retail upper management for many years.
The rep did exactly what he/she should have. For 95% of people out there they want the latest software and dont even know what root is or care. If the associate doesn't update the software once the customer gets home and sees the phone trying to update they are probably going to get confused and either call the store or go back in taking up more of the associates time. You should have done the research yourself and informed the rep to please not update anything even though as previously posted it was prob on gingerbread already and just updating the latest fixes. Radioshack has no obligation to take the device back as it is not faulty in any way.

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how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol
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Good luck with that.
"Im mad because the sales person completed a function of the phone during activation".
She is not retarded, you are sir.
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For everyone who didn't know, HTC is unlocking their phones starting next month, check out this article
HTC: Bootloader unlocking starts in August - (add http... to beginning)
pulse.me/s/CyRn
Yea!
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I don't think it would have made a difference. If I'm not mistaken the evo is shipping with 2.3.3 now...the ota she installed was probably from 4.22 to 4.24....neither can be rooted anyway.
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You are correct. I just bought two on Thursday, and they came with the 4.22. So I had to update to the newest patch(4.24)

lightyear420 said:
I saw today that radio shack has the evo 4g for $30 with a contract, and since I was due, I snagged one right up!!
As the girl was activating my phone, I went to play with the evo 3d...very cool device, I must say
When I came back, she was in the middle of an OTA update!!!! I asked her to please cancel it because I don't want it. She told me she couldn't, and she had already activated mine, and if I wanted to exchange it I had to use insurance. When I looked back down at the phone, the update had completed
I paid, grabbed my phone off the counter and stomed out of the store.
When I got home, I went straight to XDA to see about rooting it, and to my dismay, I found out because the idiot retard they hired at radio shack had updated it, I'm blocked from rooting!! WTF!!!!!
DO NOT BUY A PHONE FROM RADIO SHACK IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!
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No offence Bro. But you think that HTC is going to shipped phones that have the old 2.2 froyo software for sale? even though the newest software is out(gingerbread). come on, that will have to be stupid on their part.

lightyear420 said:
I saw today that radio shack has the evo 4g for $30 with a contract, and since I was due, I snagged one right up!!
As the girl was activating my phone, I went to play with the evo 3d...very cool device, I must say
When I came back, she was in the middle of an OTA update!!!! I asked her to please cancel it because I don't want it. She told me she couldn't, and she had already activated mine, and if I wanted to exchange it I had to use insurance. When I looked back down at the phone, the update had completed
I paid, grabbed my phone off the counter and stomed out of the store.
When I got home, I went straight to XDA to see about rooting it, and to my dismay, I found out because the idiot retard they hired at radio shack had updated it, I'm blocked from rooting!! WTF!!!!!
DO NOT BUY A PHONE FROM RADIO SHACK IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!
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I just got the $30 EVO and it came out of the box with Android 2.3.3
Same with the other 2 EVOs my family bought the same day. None of them had an OTA update done with them.
You just have to get lucky.

how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
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She actually did the not retarded thing, and did what she's trained to do. This could be different from area to area, but when I worked for Radio Shack we were required to update the prl, and the software if there was any available. If a customer asked not to, I wouldn't do it then. You can't be mad at her for doing her job.
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
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The recovery more or less is mainly for the carrier and manufacturers support, there's always a recovery in android! It's dumb to assume that there's no use for it when it's stock just because we don't use it.
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
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Something like root is something you should look up on and read before you buy the phone since you're at risk of harming the device.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol
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So you're argument is she updated your phone when you didn't want her to, but you neglected to tell her you didn't want her to so you can take it home and gain root access through a security hole for apps that require root? You're not gonna get very far.
You have 30 days to trade the phone in for a different phone, trade it in for a Shift or an Epic and ask for no updates next time.

She was just trying to help you. 99% of people who buy these phones DON'T root or do anything similar.

I rather just wait for radioshack to bring the GS2.... oops... did I say too much?
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The Guy at Radioshack told me that it wouldn't be updated out the box. He said it would still have 2.1 back in September yet when I look at about phone it had already been preloaded with 2.2. Guy didn't know what he was talking about but oh well, better than paying the rebate.
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Thoughts on the Sprint Varient

Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!

Well your sprint one seems to be acting funny.. I'm on my T-Mobile Note Edge, and I started from the G1. This phone is really smooth, no errors, and for the first time really no reason for me to have to root my phone and get rid of bloat ware to speed things up! And that was before I disabled the bloat ware anyways. You could say I'm also waiting for a way to root without tripping Knox. I'm kinda curious how ASOP or CyanogenMod will look like on this phone, and if they'll be able to use the edge productively. I'm actually throughly pleased with the phone, especially with how the home launcher is setup. My only bug is the fact that the second favorite edge doesn't allow for reorganization. That's my 2 cents. I hope your experience becomes more enjoyable
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Let me restate...i kinda sounded like a whiney brat with my last/first post. I realize that we as a group aa the less then 1% that care about specs.. and ver numbers. Im just not used to TouchWiz trying to do everything for me yet not the things i want it to do. for example every time I touch it text entry field I have a keyboard icon on the top of the notification bar...prompting me to choose Input method EVERYTIME?!? everyday I get sprint zone adverts in my notification bar even though I uninstall it every night before bed.. and multiple times a day I'm asked if I would like to sign in for Picasa.. i say no 3 or 4 times a day.. i cant figure out how to delete it. I miss the custom roms where all this bs is not even installed. Granted i knew there wasn't much support when i took the jump.. and honestly these issues would be the same with the regular note 4... id most definitely be willing to throw some $ to a recocognized established dev out there ... im miss my paranoid android and illusion roms :-/ but i know nothing out there can compare to the note edge at the moment...!

I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.

I'm using the AT&T stock version and haven't encountered any issues except I waited to long to send it back to get the white version. Lol. Other than that I like the device.

nick.farinas said:
Ive been a long time lurker on this site prolly since the GSII-- I dont post much then , or with me GSIII or Note 2- I guess thats why that account no longer exists. So with my purchase of the Note Edge i knew this would be my go to place for any information or eventually ROM's-- i gotta say that normally i never spent more then a day with Touchwiz- usually rooting and flashing within 24 hours of purchase. Ive had the phone foe about 4 days and.... HOLY MOLY this phone is slooow... so much crap is running-- 3gb of ram and 2 and half of it is always used-- sprint zone and fb keep updating and re downloading even though i continuously uninstall them daily and revert to original software versions. Now i finally understand peoples hatred towards touchwiz.. im used to ASOP-- I coulda swore touchwiz was NOT that bad in the GSII days ;-( although i have faith the dev. will take off eventually with this phone... if there were other options i might have considered going else where-- im coming from a rooted note2) But i dont think there is anything remotely better then samsung-- as bad ass as the phone is spec'd out to be i thought it would be as zippy as the nexus--- but it is most definitely slower then my note- Also since ive been ot of the loop this KNOX stuff is all new to me--basically from what i gathered by googling any root will void the warranty on the device? ive never ever sent a phone in to samsung but there is times ive gone to A Sprint tech center for help--will they turn me away if its 0x1? well i just wanted to stop by and say hi to this forum-- im beginning the process to acquire files so i can root my phone tonight-- id think the sky is the limit with the things we can do with out phones--- Much thanks to the DEV's that make this possible!!
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root it and strip the rubbish and bloat, was da matta you?!
mine was slow and lagged like crazy from all the "indexservice" and annoying samsung crap running. i stripped it all and use CM cleanmaster and battery doctor. no autostarting apps and no bloat like weather and yahoo finance...
titanium backup to freeze or remove crap.
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Best variant ever!!! :highfive:
No problems since I pulled it out the box...

bignibb said:
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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theres a fix listed in the note 4 root post. let me see if i can find it.
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-edge/general/easy-steps-stock-odin-n915tuvu1anjl-sm-t2943993 first post, midway

bignibb said:
I have none of the issues you speak of. My only real issue is with kit Kat since I can't write to my sd card but other than that I am good with my phone.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jrummy.sdfix
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even better

All those fixes are for rooted phones, i have not yet taken the plunge. I rooted my wife's note 4 but have just been hesitant to do my edge. I thought I was going to wait on lollipop but might not make it

Welp... enjoy your refusal

I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.

bignibb said:
I wish there was a step by step thread on how to root the Sprint Edge and not any other variants because I don't wanna mix things up and brick my phone.
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follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up

cvaria said:
follow the steps in the link i posted but get the cf auto-root for the 915p. easy. i did it by following the link. if you screw up relax, you can fix it. but you will not screw up
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Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.

bignibb said:
Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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i would suggest at least reading the steps before asking questrions

bignibb said:
Does that include either custom recovery?. Is there one that is prefered to the other.
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I usually use CWM, but that's only because it's old school. Right now I chose not to install it in the last step of that thread because I have never used TWRP before. I have to say that I like the touch interface.

Besides getting the sprint variant of auto root you also need the sprint variant of TWRP. I posted a guide with basic steps including getting private mode working with xposed

For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.

bignibb said:
For those that are here to help, thanks for pointing me to where I need to go, for those that posted about my needing to read, maybe you should spell check your snyde remarks before posting........lol
Sometimes its easier to answer a question and move on than to waste yours and my time. Yours by typing and not helping and mine by reading and not getting an answer.
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look dude, i'm not trying to be a jerk but, you didn't even read the post. you just fired back a question. it's all right there in the in the link i posted, props to the creator, very well laid-out.
"RTFP"
nobody is going to baby you. you wanna root and do phone kung-fu, read!