Don't buy a phone from radio shack - EVO 4G General

I saw today that radio shack has the evo 4g for $30 with a contract, and since I was due, I snagged one right up!!
As the girl was activating my phone, I went to play with the evo 3d...very cool device, I must say
When I came back, she was in the middle of an OTA update!!!! I asked her to please cancel it because I don't want it. She told me she couldn't, and she had already activated mine, and if I wanted to exchange it I had to use insurance. When I looked back down at the phone, the update had completed
I paid, grabbed my phone off the counter and stomed out of the store.
When I got home, I went straight to XDA to see about rooting it, and to my dismay, I found out because the idiot retard they hired at radio shack had updated it, I'm blocked from rooting!! WTF!!!!!
DO NOT BUY A PHONE FROM RADIO SHACK IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!

Don't walk away while she's activating it?

this isnt a reason to not buy from radioshack...ive gotten all my phones from them and they are so much more reasonable and helpful than sprint, not to mention cheaper...just ask them not to update it and im sure they wont do it

I went with my uncle to Radio Shack today so he could get the $30 EVO deal. I told the guy selling him the phone not to do any OTA updates before he even removed the phone from the box because we wanted to root the phone. The salesman was really cool about this and didn't do anything other than get the phone up and running. Unfortunately, 2.3.3 was already installed on the EVO...so my uncle is stuck without root for now too.

Take it back..say it dont work..they will exchange it..she obviously hasnt a clue about their return policy.
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That's your own fault.. why in the world you would walk away while she's messing with your phone???? Lol now u know!!
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I don't think it would have made a difference. If I'm not mistaken the evo is shipping with 2.3.3 now...the ota she installed was probably from 4.22 to 4.24....neither can be rooted anyway.
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I got a refurb evo a few days ago from sprint and it came with the 2.3 too... new Evos are screwed. We just have to wait for a root method. And i wanted to try Synergy Rom so bad

HolloWX said:
I got a refurb evo a few days ago from sprint and it came with the 2.3 too... new Evos are screwed. We just have to wait for a root method. And i wanted to try Synergy Rom so bad
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Not true at all...go to Best Buy. 4 different Evo's for me, all 2.2. Exchanged both my wife's and mine for hardware issues...and asked the CSM not to do anything to the phone, I'd power it up myself. No update, stock 2.2.
They still had around 20 or so in stock at the Tulsa BB, 71st and 169...for those of you in Tulsa.

spider2346 said:
That's your own fault.. why in the world you would walk away while she's messing with your phone???? Lol now u know!!
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how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol

lightyear420 said:
how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol
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Disclamier - I do not work for RadioShack but have worked in retail upper management for many years.
The rep did exactly what he/she should have. For 95% of people out there they want the latest software and dont even know what root is or care. If the associate doesn't update the software once the customer gets home and sees the phone trying to update they are probably going to get confused and either call the store or go back in taking up more of the associates time. You should have done the research yourself and informed the rep to please not update anything even though as previously posted it was prob on gingerbread already and just updating the latest fixes. Radioshack has no obligation to take the device back as it is not faulty in any way.

lightyear420 said:
how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol
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Good luck with that.
"Im mad because the sales person completed a function of the phone during activation".
She is not retarded, you are sir.
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OdayAllDday said:
I don't think it would have made a difference. If I'm not mistaken the evo is shipping with 2.3.3 now...the ota she installed was probably from 4.22 to 4.24....neither can be rooted anyway.
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You are correct. I just bought two on Thursday, and they came with the 4.22. So I had to update to the newest patch(4.24)

lightyear420 said:
I saw today that radio shack has the evo 4g for $30 with a contract, and since I was due, I snagged one right up!!
As the girl was activating my phone, I went to play with the evo 3d...very cool device, I must say
When I came back, she was in the middle of an OTA update!!!! I asked her to please cancel it because I don't want it. She told me she couldn't, and she had already activated mine, and if I wanted to exchange it I had to use insurance. When I looked back down at the phone, the update had completed
I paid, grabbed my phone off the counter and stomed out of the store.
When I got home, I went straight to XDA to see about rooting it, and to my dismay, I found out because the idiot retard they hired at radio shack had updated it, I'm blocked from rooting!! WTF!!!!!
DO NOT BUY A PHONE FROM RADIO SHACK IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!
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No offence Bro. But you think that HTC is going to shipped phones that have the old 2.2 froyo software for sale? even though the newest software is out(gingerbread). come on, that will have to be stupid on their part.

lightyear420 said:
I saw today that radio shack has the evo 4g for $30 with a contract, and since I was due, I snagged one right up!!
As the girl was activating my phone, I went to play with the evo 3d...very cool device, I must say
When I came back, she was in the middle of an OTA update!!!! I asked her to please cancel it because I don't want it. She told me she couldn't, and she had already activated mine, and if I wanted to exchange it I had to use insurance. When I looked back down at the phone, the update had completed
I paid, grabbed my phone off the counter and stomed out of the store.
When I got home, I went straight to XDA to see about rooting it, and to my dismay, I found out because the idiot retard they hired at radio shack had updated it, I'm blocked from rooting!! WTF!!!!!
DO NOT BUY A PHONE FROM RADIO SHACK IF YOU DO NOT WANT THE OTA UPDATE!!!!!!
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I just got the $30 EVO and it came out of the box with Android 2.3.3
Same with the other 2 EVOs my family bought the same day. None of them had an OTA update done with them.
You just have to get lucky.

how is it my fault that I didn't know she was gonna be retarded and start messing with my phone?? I've never had anyone update my device straight off the bat like that before!!
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She actually did the not retarded thing, and did what she's trained to do. This could be different from area to area, but when I worked for Radio Shack we were required to update the prl, and the software if there was any available. If a customer asked not to, I wouldn't do it then. You can't be mad at her for doing her job.
It's really crappy that HTC would even bother blocking root since it comes with a stock recovery menu??? that is so confusing to me it makes my brain hurt lmfao
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The recovery more or less is mainly for the carrier and manufacturers support, there's always a recovery in android! It's dumb to assume that there's no use for it when it's stock just because we don't use it.
I had no idea that the update would even block root. I didn't look here first, because I didn't think I needed to prepare myself for a sales associate to start messing with my device, updating it, etc. I figured I'd have exactly what it shipped with when I got it home.
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Something like root is something you should look up on and read before you buy the phone since you're at risk of harming the device.
I'm gonna call radio shack corporate tomorrow and sort this whole thing out. I'm going crazy already with all the apps, etc. I'm missing without root lol
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So you're argument is she updated your phone when you didn't want her to, but you neglected to tell her you didn't want her to so you can take it home and gain root access through a security hole for apps that require root? You're not gonna get very far.
You have 30 days to trade the phone in for a different phone, trade it in for a Shift or an Epic and ask for no updates next time.

She was just trying to help you. 99% of people who buy these phones DON'T root or do anything similar.

I rather just wait for radioshack to bring the GS2.... oops... did I say too much?
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The Guy at Radioshack told me that it wouldn't be updated out the box. He said it would still have 2.1 back in September yet when I look at about phone it had already been preloaded with 2.2. Guy didn't know what he was talking about but oh well, better than paying the rebate.
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Sprint service center cannot downgrade your phone

Well after a little discussion yesturday in the root thread about whether or not sprint can downgrade your phone after the 2.1 update I went ahead and called them and they said that it could be done. I actually called first to the sprint service center and they said it could be done. So I went down there today and talked in person to the tech and he told me that it can't be done. So wasted an hour case closed
just a thought, but if the guys here havent figured out how to downgrade hboot, what makes anyone think that sprint would be able to?
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just a thought, but if the guys here havent figured out how to downgrade hboot, what makes anyone think that sprint would be able to?
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They have the source, and release keys. They can do whatever they want like make you wait six months for a very terrible update just to make you buy a new phone and then blame it on the hardware the same hardware that's going into the mytouch slide which will be running froyo. But the consumers don't know any better so they just buy a new phone
I have been there, the told me it can't be done so i made radioshack give me a new phone since i really wasn't happy with the 2.1
iliapiano said:
I have been there, the told me it can't be done so i made radioshack give me a new phone since i really wasn't happy with the 2.1
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If I wasn't giving it to my girlfriend tomorrow then I would send it to them and have them "fix it" or give me a new one I still got the box they sent me but i figure its not worth the hassle I still got one with root.
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They have the source, and release keys. They can do whatever they want like make you wait six months for a very terrible update just to make you buy a new phone and then blame it on the hardware the same hardware that's going into the mytouch slide which will be running froyo. But the consumers don't know any better so they just buy a new phone
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Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
chfields said:
Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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I can't stand the goddamn weather animations. Makes my phone unresponsive to touch when it first wakes up, and I can't figure out how to turn them off.
delete the clock widget, and when you add it again, after choosing clock style then city, it gives you the option to check full screen animations, just uncheck it.
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delete the clock widget, and when you add it again, after choosing clock style then city, it gives you the option to check full screen animations, just uncheck it.
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HUZZAH!!!!
abcdfv said:
I can't stand the goddamn weather animations. Makes my phone unresponsive to touch when it first wakes up, and I can't figure out how to turn them off.
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Yeah I'm not a fan of them either would rather have live wallpapers. "Oh my god it's gonna be cloudy and I know cuz clouds just rolled across my screen" . Yeah ridiculous.
On another note I
cheffields said:
Whats wrong with the update, other than it can't be rooted??? Its faster and smoother than 1.5, plus it has weather animations, etc...Whats so terrible??? I think the only ones that aren't happy are the ones who updated to the RUU without finding out what it would do IE: not rootable and those who had their phones replaced and got the new RUU without the ability to root......Since 99% of users don't root, Most won't really care...............
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So much I can say but I just llike to have the option of taking and removing what I like (Hate sprint nascar) personalizing icons and so fourth a2sd.......... I could go on but really froyo and gingerbread is all I really need to say
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Yeah I'm not a fan of them either would rather have live wallpapers. "Oh my god it's gonna be cloudy and I know cuz clouds just rolled across my screen" . Yeah ridiculous.
On another note I So much I can say but I just llike to have the option of taking and removing what I like (Hate sprint nascar) personalizing icons and so fourth a2sd.......... I could go on but really froyo and gingerbread is all I really need to say
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Basically what the other guy said, u not being able to root is the reason ur throwing a tantrum. Nothing is wrong with the update but the ability to do something that its normally forbidden.
I'll just throw in an "I told ya so"
Well I want to downgrade because the damn Bluetooth won't work with 2. 1
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Well I want to downgrade because the damn Bluetooth won't work with 2. 1
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Neither does 87 gas in a racecar. Look for one thats compatible
Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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thedro said:
Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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hahah, wow.
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Hmm I guess I should buy a new car then since it is integrated into my 2008 prius. Thanks.
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Then u r sol my friend. Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone
DirtyShroomz said:
Then u r sol my friend. Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone
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First you post about wanting something that's normally forbidden...aka ROOT !
Then you just post and tell him "Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone "
So what is it?....... you like root or it disgusts you? Can't have it both ways.
And the ability to USE bluetooth with a new phone, either rooted or NORMALLY the way it should be is EXPECTED when we pay for them.
But I'm sure the guy welcomes your SOL attitude......
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First you post about wanting something that's normally forbidden...aka ROOT !
Then you just post and tell him "Maybe a fix will come up if u ever get to root ur phone "
So what is it?....... you like root or it disgusts you? Can't have it both ways.
And the ability to USE bluetooth with a new phone, either rooted or NORMALLY the way it should be is EXPECTED when we pay for them.
But I'm sure the guy welcomes your SOL attitude......
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My phones rooted buddy. I'm talking about the OP complaining because he says 2.1 sucks because he can't do functions that root allow him to do. Reading comprehension > u
As far as my attitude, nothing wrong with my attitude. Some things are NOT compatible with others, plain and simple. Doesn't matter what phone you pay for, it does not mean every bluetooth ever invented will be compatible with the phone. You pay for the phone service, and you have phone service. Your cars bluetooth doesn't work with it? Sorry, i'm sure HTC wasn't thinking PRIUS when they made 2.1.
As a worker for Sprint I hate coming to these forums and hearing people complain about things that have nothing to do with Sprint and then reading about how they can "cheat" Sprint or how disgusted they are with them when it's not even Sprint. Why am I disgusted you ask? Cause all the BS customers that constantly complain come to my department (retention). I don't care what ppl do with their stuff, but don't complain when it's not needed.
Okay first things first I have two phones one with root one without. So this issue is just something that got out of hand. Just gonna touch on some things:
DirtyShroomz said:
Basically what the other guy said, u not being able to root is the reason ur throwing a tantrum. Nothing is wrong with the update but the ability to do something that its normally forbidden.
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Actually I was quite calm when I wrote that. All I hear is blah blah blah. I like how you try to put yourself in a higher position than me by demeaning me and overexaggerating my statements to twist them into what you want people to think I meant.
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I'll just throw in an "I told ya so"
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LOL thanks
DirtyShroomz said:
My phones rooted buddy. I'm talking about the OP complaining because he says 2.1 sucks because he can't do functions that root allow him to do. Reading comprehension > u
As far as my attitude, nothing wrong with my attitude. Some things are NOT compatible with others, plain and simple. Doesn't matter what phone you pay for, it does not mean every bluetooth ever invented will be compatible with the phone. You pay for the phone service, and you have phone service. Your cars bluetooth doesn't work with it? Sorry, i'm sure HTC wasn't thinking PRIUS when they made 2.1.
As a worker for Sprint I hate coming to these forums and hearing people complain about things that have nothing to do with Sprint and then reading about how they can "cheat" Sprint or how disgusted they are with them when it's not even Sprint. Why am I disgusted you ask? Cause all the BS customers that constantly complain come to my department (retention). I don't care what ppl do with their stuff, but don't complain when it's not needed.
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Okay the only reason that I posted this was to stop the conversation in the root section. Also to confirm that sprint service centers can't downgrade the bootloader. Second thing I want to touch on is when I did this there were no fake or harassing conversations with employees I was very polite. Why would I be a **** to people that I go out of my way to look for reasons to talk to? Them and tmobile reps. Also I bought phone insurance from radioshack and was promised everything under the sun and told the guy how finnicky I am about my phone and was straight up honest with him and things that were likely to happen to it. You know what he said, "it's okay there's ways around that kind of stuff to get it handled". Now I'm out 125 and I could get a new phone through their policy got the box sitting about three maybe four feet from me but I'm not gonna.
By the way sprint does suck. They aren't as bad as at&t. And before you say why not leave them. Because I can't right because for other reasons that our my business

If you root your nexus 4g READ THIS

I have been having isues with my Nexus s4G and the radio. At first like most would have thought it to be something i did. But Nope sprint kicked off their network after i rooted and updated my prl and profile! have not had the chance to talk to sprint yet. went online to check my account, that Ive had for 9 years. to see no device found and my plan has been droped. WTF sprint.
im a modreate user and dont ues wireless teather.
so wtf put out a dev phone and kick off any user that unlocks the device @sses
will update when i call in the morning
#update#
Sorry guy and gals this one was my fault not sprint. I guess i should call be for i go and make late night drunk rants....
So what happen was i canceled a line with sprint about a week a go. they told me i dont need to pay the etf fee tell my next bill. due at the end of may. the etf fee was 140$ this put me over my spending limit. it just so happen that i up late the night befor rooting my phone. So sprint turned me back on. I feel like i a complete Fool. all day yesterday i thought i broke my phone. then i thought sprint kicked me off.
im sorry folks i dont like to make post because of this. I dont want to lose the respect of my fellow flashers.
Are you sure it had something to do with you rooting and updating prl/profile?
Yeah, i'm quite sure if that really happened, the forums would be full of such threads. Sure it has to do with your rooting?
Intresting
I recently switched from T-Mobile to sprint for the N4G. First thing I did was root it. Updated PRL and profile after. It has been three days since that and I have no issues with the phone nor the network or plan
ditto! no problems for me.
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I haven't had any issues either. And in all honestly, I think they probably did that for another reason....not because you rooted band updated your phone.
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OK feel like a newb now. But you can root and still update whatever updates they send like prl and radio? I'm assuming since it's still stock just rooted?
rooted, clockwork. i updated profile, prl etc. Pretty sure my device is working as it should.
*signs on to sprint.com
903tex said:
OK feel like a newb now. But you can root and still update whatever updates they send like prl and radio? I'm assuming since it's still stock just rooted?
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yes, you can root and update prl, profile.
tailsthecat3 said:
yes, you can root and update prl, profile.
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Thanks that's good to know
OP, please call Sprint and report back here. Good luck mate.
Its cool stuff happens were all still learning this phone and its trial and error that's what this fourm is for
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#updated op#
yes you can update prl and profile with root it was said to help data speeds after you flash or wipe a new rom
stillblood said:
#updated op#
yes you can update prl and profile with root it was said to help data speeds after you flash or wipe a new rom
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what happened to your account????????????????? did ya forget why were all tuned in here?
##EDit* just read OP update cheers
stillblood said:
#update#
Sorry guy and gals this one was my fault not sprint. I guess i should call be for i go and make late night drunk rants....
So what happen was i canceled a line with sprint about a week a go. they told me i dont need to pay the etf fee tell my next bill. due at the end of may. the etf fee was 140$ this put me over my spending limit. it just so happen that i up late the night befor rooting my phone. So sprint turned me back on. I feel like i a complete Fool. all day yesterday i thought i broke my phone. then i thought sprint kicked me off.
im sorry folks i dont like to make post because of this. I dont want to lose the respect of my fellow flashers.
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You may want to edit the title of your post as a result of this revelation and/or put your update at the top of the OP. It's entirely possible people are not going to read your entire post to get to the update portion that clears this up and they'll go off into some panic and use ODIN to flash the wrong rom and brick their device (it seems people just flash the first thing they find recently).
Glad everything got sorted out for you
stillblood said:
#update#
Sorry guy and gals this one was my fault not sprint. I guess i should call be for i go and make late night drunk rants....
So what happen was i canceled a line with sprint about a week a go. they told me i dont need to pay the etf fee tell my next bill. due at the end of may. the etf fee was 140$ this put me over my spending limit. it just so happen that i up late the night befor rooting my phone. So sprint turned me back on. I feel like i a complete Fool. all day yesterday i thought i broke my phone. then i thought sprint kicked me off.
im sorry folks i dont like to make post because of this. I dont want to lose the respect of my fellow flashers.
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No worries, glad you got it sorted out. Cheers.

[Q] [q] why are people unrooting??

I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I have been reading several forums, and it seems that quite a few people are in a hurry to unroot their phones in order to download the latest OTA update from HTC.
WHY WOULD YOU EVER WANT TO UNROOT JUST TO DOWNLOAD THE LATEST OTA ??
Why would you want to risk breaking your root, possibly permantly, just to install an update that is basically the same as the previous one and is going to bring some bugs with it? From what I am reading, the new update is not all that wonderful.
One of the purposes of any HTC OTA update is to break as many roots as possible and to patch the phones so that they cannot be rooted. And, if the bootloader is locked, which several people claim it is, your phone may never be rooted again, at least not perm rooted.
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE FLASH YOUR FAVORITE LOOKING CUSTOM ROMS, YOUR CUSTOM ROM THAT MAKES YOUR PHONE RUN SO MUCH FASTER, THAT CUSTOM ROM THATS GIVING YOU THAT GREAT BATTERY LIFE,...
IF YOUR ROOT IS KILLED, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CONTROL YOUR PHONE'S CPU, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESTORE THAT BACKUP, THAT POSSIBLY SAVED YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FREE WIFI TETHERING, YOU WILL NOT BE ALBE TO DELETE THOSE UNWANTED APPS THAT ARE WASTING STORAGE SPACE ON YOUR PHONE, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FREEZE ALL THOSE SERVICES THAT YOUR TASKMANAGER CANNOT TOUCH THAT ARE KILLING YOUR BATTERY,...
Sorry I wrote a book here, but it makes no sense to me. If you want to try Android 2.3, why not just download the rooted version and maintain your root along with its many advantages?
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I just answered a post in another thread about this .... people are out of their effin minds especially when the software is out there already and has been for a while... Hey there a million what do I do posts and people getting flamed and the sensitive ones going stop doing that... Hey you stupid enough to update your phone OTA f-it you deserve what you get. forum is here to educated and help and if you dont want to use that help then you get what you deserve... Dont mean to be a **** but I guess for some you will feel that I am oh well
A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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I didn't get a choice, my phone died after flashing the new radio. When i got my replaced it had the latest ota already installed. Also went from Hardware 003 to 004. Guess I now have to give up flashing cold turkey
wgallt said:
A lot of us unrooted prior to the update because we were expecting a hell of alot more than what we were given. I could have waited for one of the devs to give us a rooted version but it's like being given a present and told not to open it till tomorrow. Had I known the specifics of the update I definitely would have waited. All in all not a big deal though, they'll figure out how to root this soon until then I'll just piss and moan about this half ass update.
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Within the same day a rooted version was out.
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Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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Award Tour said:
Do we really need a thread to explain the obvious? People are just impatient and stupid.
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The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
wgallt said:
Yup but I felt the need to get let down a few hours sooner. But I will say I knew in advance that it would more than likely screw my chance to root for a while. I made my own bed no need for me to come on here and whine about it like I see a lot of others doing.
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When you do that, you run that chance of an exploit never being found. That may very well be the case if you have S-ON.
The dissapointment in the leaked OTA wasn't enough to dissuade people i guess.
shortydoggg said:
The purpose of this thread was to discourage the next person from making the same mistake that others made, because people right now are still desperate to get the update by any means necessary.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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I agree fully with this statement but like I said the leaked version has been out for like a month already... no guarantees they can fix the new bootloader... I know better though lol
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Impatience
I unrooted because there was no reason for me to be rooted. The only benefit of rooting for me was to have the free wifi tethering.
When my wife did the latest OTA update she was getting 4g in places I didn't get it. Her phone was also downloading on 4g at 10 megs down using the speedtest.net app. With multiple roms I have never gotten above 2 megs down, when I unrooted and went stock I was getting faster and better 4g.
Every Rom I installed was buggy, So if I am going to deal with roms that don't work or take away features or burn your eyes in the dark I would rather just deal with the stock sprint phone. I am also fortunate enough to be able to afford the hotspot service from sprint so I would rather pay for reliable fast service.
These are the reasons I unrooted. I understand that everyone has their own reasons for what they do with their devices and I respect them please respect mine. I am just answering the question that was asked in this post.
novanosis85 said:
If they come to xda then what in the blue help makes you think they will miss the stock odex Rom in the dev section?
If they come here for help then they already know better.
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Well, people HAVE missed it, and yes, they SHOULD know better. However, some need more help than others.
I was tempted but I knew someone that was stock and I let him go first. I also knew everyone would be posting here. I now run the rooted Rom put out the same day the ota was released. Thank god I held on to my senses and waited for it.
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I'm not unrooting anytime soon. Couple of reasons.
1.The big one is I'm not a huge fan of Sense.
2.All the bloatware that comes on the stock rom that slows it down, and takes up room.
3.For my battery!!!!
unrooted
Unrooted, tried out stock Gingerbread, rooted it again with rooting hormones.
It's not that "hard"...
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just got a replacement EVO with FROYO on it!

So I recently got the EVO, and mine came with the 2.3 update. after reading here i realized there was NO root exploit for me. so I thought I would see if Sprint could use one of their magic machines and somehow downgrade my device to 2.2.
Keep in mind, I went in NOT trying to get a replacement device! I was NOT trying to commit fraud of any sort.
So I talked with a guy at the local sprint store about a couple issues i am having, no wireless N, BT is sporadic, adn about twice a day i get a Data Call Error message screen...
the guy asked me if I had taken the update and I said yes I have both the GB update and the maintenance update, but am still having my slight issues...
He looked at my account and told me since I had TEP he would just replace my device. Ummm.. Ok. I was actually just hoping you could downgrad it back to 2.2. Nope, they cant do that... So he went into the back and dug through the cabinet that had the Evo's in it and got me one from the very back.
after booting it up, he showed me it had 2.2 on it!! YAY!!! I( CAN ROOT AGAIN!!
Im just so stoked I had to share my good news.
Good news! Congrats!
It's like the story of the prodigal son. He returns and all the people rejoice!
Good to hear you got a phone you could work with brother!
Thanks for sharing ... you have been blessed with an increasingly rare commodity these days. Enjoy!
I had to get a phone replaced by asurion and it had 2.2 on it shipped a week after the updates rolled out..... I was also lucky
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well I just finished rooting it, now to decide what flavor of ROM to try first...
Congrats, hope everyone gets as lucky haha.
schollianmj said:
So I recently got the EVO, and mine came with the 2.3 update. after reading here i realized there was NO root exploit for me. so I thought I would see if Sprint could use one of their magic machines and somehow downgrade my device to 2.2.
Keep in mind, I went in NOT trying to get a replacement device! I was NOT trying to commit fraud of any sort.
So I talked with a guy at the local sprint store about a couple issues i am having, no wireless N, BT is sporadic, adn about twice a day i get a Data Call Error message screen...
the guy asked me if I had taken the update and I said yes I have both the GB update and the maintenance update, but am still having my slight issues...
He looked at my account and told me since I had TEP he would just replace my device. Ummm.. Ok. I was actually just hoping you could downgrad it back to 2.2. Nope, they cant do that... So he went into the back and dug through the cabinet that had the Evo's in it and got me one from the very back.
after booting it up, he showed me it had 2.2 on it!! YAY!!! I( CAN ROOT AGAIN!!
Im just so stoked I had to share my good news.
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I'm shocked they had one there. I have been waiting for 5 days for mine just to ship. Backordered which is weird to me since this is the most popular phone sprint has ever sold. I would think they would have plenty with all the warranty and assurion exchanges. Keeping my fingers crossed that mine will have Froyo also.
Shocked they had an Evo or shock they had one with Froyo? they had plenty of Evo's... so did the reseller that I originally got my sprint service through last week.
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Shocked they had an Evo or shock they had one with Froyo? they had plenty of Evo's... so did the reseller that I originally got my sprint service through last week.
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Shocked they had a replacement Evo right there. ARe you talking about brand new, refurb or just a returned Evo? I have had my Evo replaced three times including this one now and I have never gotten a replacement on site. They always have to get it shipped out to me. Having froyo on the phone doesn't shock me because I have friends with Evo's and if I didn't tell them there was an update they would never even know to check.
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Shocked they had a replacement Evo right there. ARe you talking about brand new, refurb or just a returned Evo? I have had my Evo replaced three times including this one now and I have never gotten a replacement on site. They always have to get it shipped out to me. Having froyo on the phone doesn't shock me because I have friends with Evo's and if I didn't tell them there was an update they would never even know to check.
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nope, it was brand new, not a refurb or return. But don't worry, not all my luck is good today... I just heard a crash and a kid start crying outside, when i looked turns out a kid was learning how to ride a bike in our community parking lot and ran straight into the side of my 86 Mustang....
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nope, it was brand new, not a refurb or return. But don't worry, not all my luck is good today... I just heard a crash and a kid start crying outside, when i looked turns out a kid was learning how to ride a bike in our community parking lot and ran straight into the side of my 86 Mustang....
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Wow, I would be pissed, but then again, I would've root.
Me, I feel stupid, I got service last week and had a rootable EVO, I just didn't know there wasn't a way to root the updates so I installed them because I wanted to test it out with the stock first. Came here the next day to check for rooting procedures to find out I fk myself!
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Just did similar this morning....bought an Evo 4G for wifey, 3d for myself last friday. Went back to Best Buy and told them hers was acting up, wanted to exchange. No problem...then told the tech I'd like to power it on & update it myself at home...they were fine with that. Cancelled the update, and have a minty fresh Evo 4G with 2.2, now rooted and about to flash some Kingdom.
Got my sensation with 2.2 (didnt even know that was possible?) Didn't care for root then, so I did the GB... Now I feel like I fk'ed myself... Wellwell, waiting on root, with a smile on my face now, as I realised that "cut the rope" STILL is an amazing game
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lol good dude glad to hear ur rooted
Just had to get a new evo from insurance and they asked if i wanted them to activate it for me. I said NO. lol i want my rooted evo back. Damn water and electronics.
I'm so pissed my replacement has 2.3 on it. I wanna throw this phone out the window.
Time to buy a nexus.
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schollianmj said:
So I recently got the EVO, and mine came with the 2.3 update. after reading here i realized there was NO root exploit for me. so I thought I would see if Sprint could use one of their magic machines and somehow downgrade my device to 2.2.
Keep in mind, I went in NOT trying to get a replacement device! I was NOT trying to commit fraud of any sort.
So I talked with a guy at the local sprint store about a couple issues i am having, no wireless N, BT is sporadic, adn about twice a day i get a Data Call Error message screen...
the guy asked me if I had taken the update and I said yes I have both the GB update and the maintenance update, but am still having my slight issues...
He looked at my account and told me since I had TEP he would just replace my device. Ummm.. Ok. I was actually just hoping you could downgrad it back to 2.2. Nope, they cant do that... So he went into the back and dug through the cabinet that had the Evo's in it and got me one from the very back.
after booting it up, he showed me it had 2.2 on it!! YAY!!! I( CAN ROOT AGAIN!!
Im just so stoked I had to share my good news.
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Was curious how come you did'nt just downgrade by using original RUU?
http://www.multiupload.com/7H8NVWTK95
Tekn010933 said:
Was curious how come you did'nt just downgrade by using original RUU?
http://www.multiupload.com/7H8NVWTK95
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it wont work new hboot says cant be downgraded but im trying this way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155916
if anyone would like to try
Tekn010933 said:
Was curious how come you did'nt just downgrade by using original RUU?
http://www.multiupload.com/7H8NVWTK95
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Trust me, I RUU'd the crap outta it. as stated, Hboot wont allow the downgrade. I tried about 5 different RUU files.

Quick trick to get OTA Jellybean

Not sure if this is where this goes but this worked for me on 3 Nexus S 4G's today..
All of them on different accounts. One is flashed to MetroPCS and still get's Jellybean love!
Remember it will not work right away, just when your sick of doing it BAM..
One phone i tried for 2 hours and nothing..Then just before my friend left my house i tried once more and it worked..
If this does not work for you,well, at least i gave you something to do while you were bored!
But i swear it worked on 3 phones today!
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Open the Settings application.
Select Apps.
Select the All drawer, and select Google Service Frameworks.
First, Force Stop the application, then Clear Data.
Now that the Google Service Frameworks are reset, you may check for an update, by selecting About Phone in Settings, and select System Update.
**The last update check should be garbled. Around 1969.**
--------------->If this did not work, try these steps several times. This is important, IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL TRIES BEFORE A RESULT.
Give a thanks if it works for you and reply back with results..
Enjoy
** Not sure about this breaking push notification on apps?
First I heard of this. I guess try at your own risk but my wife's Nexus S 4G seems to be working great after using this method.
## Maybe try to back up apps that use push notifications with Titanium Backup and reinstall after if u have any issues.
Just a thought not sure if that will help!
TONYSALEM78 said:
Not sure if this is where this goes but this worked for me on 3 Nexus S 4G's today..
All of them on different accounts. One is flashed to MetroPCS and still get's Jellybean love!
Remember it will not work right away, just when your sick of doing it BAM..
One phone i tried for 2 hours and nothing..Then just before my friend left my house i tried once more and it worked..
If this does not work for you,well, at least i gave you something to do while you were bored!
But i swear it worked on 3 phones today!
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Open the Settings application.
Select Apps.
Select the All drawer, and select Google Service Frameworks.
First, Force Stop the application, then Clear Data.
Now that the Google Service Frameworks are reset, you may check for an update, by selecting About Phone in Settings, and select System Update.
**The last update check should be garbled. Around 1969.**
--------------->If this did not work, try these steps several times. This is important, IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL TRIES BEFORE A RESULT.
Give a thanks if it works for you and reply back with results..
Enjoy
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I thought this broke the push notification on apps that use push, no?
I decided that I could resolve the push if need be and went ahead and tried this again (did it previously on other updates). Tried about five times, walked away for about 15 minutes. Tried again and it worked. Update is downloading now.
Cool. Glad its working for people! Enjoy
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Thanks man it works!
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So, I just switched to the NS4G from my ET4G because it's been having some hardware issues (Not really relevant for this, but figured I would introduce myself to the Nexus S community this way haha...)
This is what worked for me:
*Force Stop Google Services Framework
*Clear Data On Google Services Framework
*Wait about 5 minutes
*Checked for updates
I did it 1 time, and it worked for me. Not too sure if it'll work that way for everyone, but I believe it's def worth trying.
didnt force stop at all but clear framework and checked now, didnt work.
Read your post, cleared data,
waited 5 mins.
checked and now update.
Thanks file size 121.6mb
ok, so this means only one thing could be possible...Sprint lied to us. they told us the update would start the 6th, but it didn't start until yesterday. I can't count how many posts I saw from people who tried this and it didn't work...now, miraculously, it starts working when we know it's out?!?!?!?!
Look at the facts, people!! Sprint lied to us and the update did not start the 6th like they said. if it had, this would have worked on sept 6th, and would not just magically start working on sept 10th!
This worked. I'm on jellybean now. It took over 26 attempts. No joke. But so worth it.
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Sprint didn't lie they said this is a two part roll out starting the 6th the galaxy nexus got its first then us look at the facts they still have a few days before some people will get it and they didn't even have to bring it out for our phone oh and download supersu and flash it thru recovery for root and air kernel r1 works with this
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Flashable .zip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31430372#post31430372
So question for the New Jelly Bean update... Teamviewer came out with there Quicksuppprt app. It says it only works on Stock firmware, Non modded. It works on Stock ICS but doesnt work on Stock JellyBean. Is any one else having this problem. Im not sure if its because i flashed Jellybean via ODIN yesterday since i didnt want to wait for the OTA to get pushed or is it just the fact that it doesnt work on JellyBean NS4g's yet
Also im rooted, forgot to try before i rooted my device :/
Can anyone who waited for the OTA to get pushed to there phone confirm or not if they are able to Download and install "TeamViewer QuickSupport" to there Jellybean NS4g device
Thanks and much appreciated
shrekdaklown said:
Sprint didn't lie they said this is a two part roll out starting the 6th the galaxy nexus got its first then us look at the facts they still have a few days before some people will get it and they didn't even have to bring it out for our phone oh and download supersu and flash it thru recovery for root and air kernel r1 works with this
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are you kidding??
1. they never said it's a two-part update. they said updates would start the 6th...nothing about two parts. even the reps I spoke with said I should have had it already!! The funny thing is, not even two hours after I complained (and openly admitted to having looked on XDA for it and it wasn't out yet) people started getting the OTA. That's pretty coincidental, no?
2. they owed us an update. we are nexus owners. we get every update until the hardware can't run the firmware. If they don't like that, they can choose to stop selling the nexus line...there's the door. If it's a phone that's only on one carrier and the carrier doesn't update, google should step in and release the factory image immediately. Now don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I don't mean they LEGALLY owe us an update. I mean since we own a development device, they would be pretty stupid to turn their backs on us....many of us have given google a percentage of the code used in final release versions of android. If they turn their backs on those people, they will be pretty screwed. They use quite a few features from roms that were here before google ever had the idea to do that. For example, swipe to clear notifications...that came from CM team. It sure as HELL wasn't google's baby, that's for sure!! That's why I say they owe us an update. Whether any one of us has personally contributed code or not, we have still contributed to the android project by testing the code that the developers here contributed to android.
if they are releasing a rom for two phones it wont be a single wave the galaxy nexus owners got it first because they bought the newer phones and when we bought our nexus s's they never said they would update it forever we are lucky we got it they could have been like nope you have to be a galaxy nexus and honestly we are lucky because most companys would have made us upgrade to get it or make our own i was right beside you waiting for the update and as soon as i had the image files on here i odin'ed them to my phone most sprint reps have no idea whats going on with roms and such but i know i count myself lucky to have a phone like this and not be stuck like i was with my evo shift alot of companys owe us for bettering there product but how many actually pay
wifi
Tried this using 3g or 4g all day and nothing, then tried with wifi and if worked like a charm the 1st time i tried, dont know why it worked out this way, but to those for which this method is not working when connected to 3g or 4g try using this method while connected to wifi, it might just work as it did for me.
Doing the checkin CMD does nothing but the same thing as going through the settings about phone and clicking system update..
Haven't tried this method yet.. May try soon..
Hopefully that OTA hits my way some time soon..
I forgot to add that I was on Wifi also...
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GrimReaper24 said:
Doing the checkin CMD does nothing but the same thing as going through the settings about phone and clicking system update..
Haven't tried this method yet.. May try soon..
Hopefully that OTA hits my way some time soon..
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Make sure your on wifi and you remove or delete Google services framework data in settings...apps. it took me over 26 times before it worked. I'm happily running stock jellybean
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hp420 said:
are you kidding??
1. they never said it's a two-part update. they said updates would start the 6th...nothing about two parts. even the reps I spoke with said I should have had it already!! The funny thing is, not even two hours after I complained (and openly admitted to having looked on XDA for it and it wasn't out yet) people started getting the OTA. That's pretty coincidental, no?
2. they owed us an update. we are nexus owners. we get every update until the hardware can't run the firmware. If they don't like that, they can choose to stop selling the nexus line...there's the door. If it's a phone that's only on one carrier and the carrier doesn't update, google should step in and release the factory image immediately. Now don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. I don't mean they LEGALLY owe us an update. I mean since we own a development device, they would be pretty stupid to turn their backs on us....many of us have given google a percentage of the code used in final release versions of android. If they turn their backs on those people, they will be pretty screwed. They use quite a few features from roms that were here before google ever had the idea to do that. For example, swipe to clear notifications...that came from CM team. It sure as HELL wasn't google's baby, that's for sure!! That's why I say they owe us an update. Whether any one of us has personally contributed code or not, we have still contributed to the android project by testing the code that the developers here contributed to android.
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Sprint stores had the file so people who had a replacement or a friend inside could of got the update on the 7th.
Sprint never said it was a two part update, but they said it would be a slow rollout for ns4g not gnex, over 8 days between which leaves you to believe the first half would be gnex, second half ns4g. Gonzo posted the files he got at the service center hours before anyone got the OTA link posted so the files were out since the 6th for both phones. SO my point is big deal it was only 4 days. Better than 4 months for ICS and deff better then whats going on over at verizon. Sprint told the truth. Not all reps know the facts. I worked for target and it doesnt mean i knew when we were getting new shipments of products. You should be mad that Sprint didnt explain the process but OTA 4 days later is better than no OTA.
Hopefully, you didnt quit your job or something like that to get the update on the 6th because thats your fault.
but cheer up, you have it now. Play around with the smoothness and yell out "I CANT BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!!"
I have been trying to get this to work the last couple of days with no success.
Would having an unlocked bootloader prevent me from getting the OTA? If so, how do I lock the bootloader only?

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