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Is the Rogers magic the right one for me?

Hello everyone, Ive been a long time reader of xda, have an htc advantage, htc touch dual, and an htc wing. I have flashed more roms to my advantage than i could ever remember, sadly I forgot my old username so here I am with a new one
Lately I have only been using my advantage as a bedside alarm clock, and I want to try Android. I prefer the body lines of the hero, but I would like the future option of using 3g. I am in Alaska and using tmobile. I would like to switch to ATT at some point in the future, and currently there is NO 3g service where i am in alaska with either providers. From what I can tell, the Rogers version of the magic is hands down the one to get if you want to run the hero rom. Ive read many posts that say it lags with the 192mb versions. I also want to get as full of a google experience as possible...OTA updates, Access to the Android Marketplace, google maps etc. Can anyone confirm that if I purchased an unlocked rogers magic off ebay, would I be able to get OTA updates over an edge connection in the USA? I do believe that the rogers magic should have the bands to work with ATT 3g right? As I said, there is no 3g service here, but when i switch to ATT later, and travel I would like to utilize the 3g. Just looking for some insight on what will more than likely be my next phone. Planning on purchasing tonight if we can come up with some answers!

The Rogers Magic will run on AT&T but not on T-MO.
You get access to the Market but not paid apps, you'll have to root to get full access.
You wont get OTA updates from Rogers, I'm a customer and they told me no go on OS updates. Have to contact HTC for that, but if your rooted does it matter?
Flash the latest/greatest ROM.
Clinton

ok well The Rogers has the 288MB you want:
and it also works on tmobile edge but on 3G however it works on att edge/3G. so if your thinking of swicthing over to att than this is the phone for you.

Ok, so if I root the phone, then I would have complete access to the android market? If purchasing an unlocked Rogers Magic, do i need to worry about getting one of the "perfect spl"s that isnt rootable yet, or is that only an issue for other versions?

Yep you'll have full access if you install "Market Enabler" after you root. I have not heard of any Rogers Magic haveing the "perfect SPL" I think so far it's only for the MyTouch and Hero.
Clinton

ClintonH is correct all available Roger Magics in the market are rootable.

Awesome, thanks for the great information. Looks like I will be purchasing one from ebay this weekend, unless you guys can recommend any reputable online shops to order from. I'll be just using the edge connection on it for a little while until i figure out how im going to get outta my tmobile contract...I currently have two active numbers under my contract with tmobile Not in much of a hurry though as i'll only be able to utilize the 3g when im travelling.

I actually have one fs on Ebay right now. Check out dgravo27 . It is the Rogers version.

Looks like yours isnt for sale anymore Dgravo, I just bought it! Too many other ones listed with 288 mb ram, however, they have the vodaphone logo and I dont think half the sellers even know whats inside their phones.

Noob question, shoping for MAgic

I have a mytouch 32b and Im unsatisfied. I want it sold out of my sight ASAP lol. But Im looking for the 32A, I want to root it and run hero. I have heard some talk about some not being able to be rooted or something, is this true? I dont want to buy a expensive phone only to be disappointed So whats up with this talk?

it doesnt have to do with the a or b board it comes down to the spl which i believe they have all been figured out on the way to go about gaining root access

Good luck with that.
If you're in the USA - which obviously you are...then by now you would know that ANY "HTC BRANDED" device is run on different, far advanced frequencies in comparison to our own. Regardless of whether or not we can match the RADIO or SPL of their devices is not relevant. You WILL NOT receive 3G data from the standard HTC Sapphire. As for the motherboard preference. Sure; T-Mobile *****ed out and chose the cheaper version...but it certainly gets the job done.
If you partition your SD card, flash the latest RADIO and SPL, then pick an appropriate HERO port for your 32B motherboard, you will be golden.
As you can see, I love the MyTouch.

Change HD2 frequency band

OK I have done some searching around on this topic and I'm finding a lot of mixed information. I'm currently on the Rogers network here in Canada and I managed to get my hands on an HD2 for next to nothing. So I jumped on the chance to have a "boot whatever the heck you want phone". However, while initially researching the phone I only quickly looked over the supported frequencies for the phone to ensure that I could use in on Rogers. Of course it will work as a phone just fine, however, it will not support 3g....apparently.
Started searching about for a way to change the phones frequency and some are saying it is possible to flash another radio for say the European version and some are saying that's not possible. I'm inclined to think it is not possible and that it is a hardware limitation. I figure that this is the best place to look for some real answers. Anyone have some insight into this matter? Oh and if it is a hardware issue and it can be changed....I'm not afraid to take the whole phone apart to try it. Ive done my share of tear downs on other phones....just for the heck of it.
Thanks in advance

only the telstra model will give you 3g on rogers.
hardware, and not changeable
yes you can change the radio (if youhave a tmous ((t mobile us)) then you need to be REAL careful which radio you flash) but changing radio has no effect on the bands.
this forum is for the regular hd2, the tmous (if that's what you have) can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=631

If you have the T-Mobile US version then you can use it on Wind Mobile here in Canada. This is what I'm doing and everything works great, including the 3g. I've loaded Android on it and I absolutely love my HD2!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I actually bought a Telstra (Montreal Fido user) because we don't have Wind here... Telstra works great. Got it off ebay from a nice aussie fellow. I wanted the Tmous one for the extra ROM space, but hey... As long as Android runs on it, I'm more than happy!
Welcome to the HD2 community.

[Q] way to mcc unlock mytouch g4

glacier 2.2.1 t-mobil mytouch 4g
temp rooted visionary+gfree_2
Is there way to unlock mcc to use this phone in USA and in Europa?
I will work my self in this direction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
But i wonder how MCC fits in to all this if so?

Deep in thought about this....ideas?
I actually wish I could post on that thread, but alas I don't have the power....
I have rooted my MT4G twice now after restoring to stock in order to use gfree to unlock it.
Eng S-off and CID is 11111111 but when I put a AT&T sim in there is no service. I'm a pretty savvy dude, and can't find anything on how to correct the issue.
I would love some advice even tho this isn't the right thread .... lurking has cost me the ability to post where I need to

gfree unlocks the phone. mcc/mnc/cid/whatever.
If there is no AT&T service - most probably you have only UMTS (3G) service at that spot, and the UMTS bands are incompatible with MT4G.

I was digging through the radio threads thinking it was something of that nature.
currently on the stock T-Mob radio....suggestions?
and thank you for the reply

Radios won't help, they don't change the frequency support. I don't have any good suggestions...

I don't know much about radios....seemed people were getting better service by changing them. Guess changing the radio doesn't allow for better reception of other towers, based on what you said. Thanks.
I think that in the unlocking process I may have hard locked it to Tmob. Everything I have found online says that a foreign sim will bring up the option for unlock code, but mine doesn't and never did.
I'll keep digging and post if I find any answers.

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I don't know much about radios....seemed people were getting better service by changing them. Guess changing the radio doesn't allow for better reception of other towers, based on what you said. Thanks.
I think that in the unlocking process I may have hard locked it to Tmob. Everything I have found online says that a foreign sim will bring up the option for unlock code, but mine doesn't and never did.
I'll keep digging and post if I find any answers.
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Radios will affect the signal and its strength, and may change battery life overall, it doesn't relate to the phone's frequencies though.

Thanks Ace....
I did try doing *#*#4636#*#* and switching to GSM only which on Tmob gave me Edge only even at home, but it still didn't read the AT&T sim, and when trying to set the APN on the Tmob sim it will save but not on the AT&T one.
Do you know of a ROM that gels with using 2G only and allows the APN to stick?

pfroyjr said:
Thanks Ace....
I did try doing *#*#4636#*#* and switching to GSM only which on Tmob gave me Edge only even at home, but it still didn't read the AT&T sim, and when trying to set the APN on the Tmob sim it will save but not on the AT&T one.
Do you know of a ROM that gels with using 2G only and allows the APN to stick?
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If you're using the stock mysense rom, ginger or froyo, try another one like CM or Miui. And if those don't read the aim, try a sense rom instead. It should stick though, when you save the apn, perhaps you should also try another at&t sim card, just to be sure. I'm wondering if the CID thing from gfree is related to this or not, I've never unlocked my phone, but it might be best to use the unlock, if you can't get the sim to work properly. Gfree and its CID method could be causing some underlying problem with the reader.

Ace42 said:
If you're using the stock mysense rom, ginger or froyo, try another one like CM or Miui. And if those don't read the aim, try a sense rom instead. It should stick though, when you save the apn, perhaps you should also try another at&t sim card, just to be sure. I'm wondering if the CID thing from gfree is related to this or not, I've never unlocked my phone, but it might be best to use the unlock, if you can't get the sim to work properly. Gfree and its CID method could be causing some underlying problem with the reader.
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Just to update my attempts in case someone runs into the same issue....
Tried a couple MIUI ROM's (not a fan of them), CM7, several Royal ROM's (a couple stuck in their Android boot loop), Sense ROM's, and stock FROYO and GB....
going back to the stock ROM's - I flashed after formatting and wiping and the IMG did bring the phone to stock, but never turned S=ON. Today I'll be doing manual unroot to get S=ON and then reflashing the stock ROM's to see if I can get the phone to ask for a network unlock code. If I can get that I'll buy a code and run with it. I'm thinking that the Gfree method of unlocking isn't 100% compatible with the MT4G. IMO
Having an issue with VISIONary ATM on GB, but I'll keep you posted. This may end up being very helpful to other MT4G owners down the road. Thanks for the input guys.
Semper-

pfroyjr said:
Just to update my attempts in case someone runs into the same issue....
Tried a couple MIUI ROM's (not a fan of them), CM7, several Royal ROM's (a couple stuck in their Android boot loop), Sense ROM's, and stock FROYO and GB....
going back to the stock ROM's - I flashed after formatting and wiping and the IMG did bring the phone to stock, but never turned S=ON. Today I'll be doing manual unroot to get S=ON and then reflashing the stock ROM's to see if I can get the phone to ask for a network unlock code. If I can get that I'll buy a code and run with it. I'm thinking that the Gfree method of unlocking isn't 100% compatible with the MT4G. IMO
Having an issue with VISIONary ATM on GB, but I'll keep you posted. This may end up being very helpful to other MT4G owners down the road. Thanks for the input guys.
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If you flashed the ota, then you'll have to downgrade to froyo first. Since the stock gb can't be rooted yet, w/o downgrading first.

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If you flashed the ota, then you'll have to downgrade to froyo first. Since the stock gb can't be rooted yet, w/o downgrading first.
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Yeah face slap after the post I realized it won't root on GB....lol moment of idiocy.
I flashed the stock froyo and still S=OFF persists.
I tried the unroot sh method listed HERE
No dice. S=OFF still there. I have a second MT4G that I never rooted, so I'm having a friend bring it to me so I can do some additional testing to see what the problem is. Unfortunately I dropped T-Mobile contract plan so there won't be any warranty swaps if gfree did create some gross underlying issue that can't be undone.

Ok so logical deduction says it has to be the SIM card....
Putting the AT&T SIM in the stock never touched phone, the phone sees there is a SIM card, but doesn't do anything about it.
My rooted phone acted as if there was no SIM, but the unrooted one just didn't do anything...simply said there was no service, and the phone didn't register that there was a phone number associated with the SIM.
IDK, maybe I'm way over analyzing this all, but I'll get over to AT&T and see about getting a new SIM to try that.

Sorry for repeated postings....
Ok, so new development for those who have the idea of using AT&T prepaid on a spiffy MT4G the issue IS the SIM
I was reading on AT&T's forums and it seems that they are hip to our MO and made new SIM's that don't work in regular phones. The gold contact area is smaller and so the MT4G doesn't see it.
I'm hoping that I can get someone cool at the store to setup a normal SIM for me to test. I'll post an update once I have gone to the store.

pfroyjr said:
Ok, so new development for those who have the idea of using AT&T prepaid on a spiffy MT4G the issue IS the SIM
I was reading on AT&T's forums and it seems that they are hip to our MO and made new SIM's that don't work in regular phones. The gold contact area is smaller and so the MT4G doesn't see it.
I'm hoping that I can get someone cool at the store to setup a normal SIM for me to test. I'll post an update once I have gone to the store.
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Normally it would be on, after flashing the stock/unrooted ota. But, why do you need it to be S-ON anyway? Are you planning on selling it?

Not selling, just curious as to why it happened to stay S=OFF
Old full sized SIM cards can no longer be gotten through the store, searching online. Seems AT&T wants to stop people from putting their SIM cards in unlocked phones. I was told approx 2 months ago they forced the stores to switch to new SIMs with smaller contact area. This is going to make things difficult for those who want to use unlocked phones on AT&T.

pfroyjr said:
Not selling, just curious as to why it happened to stay S=OFF
Old full sized SIM cards can no longer be gotten through the store, searching online. Seems AT&T wants to stop people from putting their SIM cards in unlocked phones. I was told approx 2 months ago they forced the stores to switch to new SIMs with smaller contact area. This is going to make things difficult for those who want to use unlocked phones on AT&T.
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What rom did you flash, to try and get S-ON? If you use the one w/ the new hboot and radio it should be on again.

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What rom did you flash, to try and get S-ON? If you use the one w/ the new hboot and radio it should be on again.
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I flashed the stock froyo PD15IMG file and the OTA, which either should have returned to S=ON, but didn't. I'm not overly concerned with the fact that it stayed S=ON, but after multiple attempts and staying S=OFF makes you wonder.
It did take it out of ENG mode and back to SHIP
I'm trying to find an older SIM which is proving to be more difficult than anticipated. I would have though ebay and Amazon would have them, but I'm not having much luck.

Your S-OFF most probably stays because you were rooted with gfree, and you have the security flag set to off. No amount of flashing will turn it back on.
Run gfree again, with the right switches, to turn the security back to on. Use any rooted Froyo ROM for that. Then flash PD15IMG, and you'll be S-ON.

I had a feeling that gfree had done a better job with a true root than the VISIONary way I had done it originally. Thanks for confirming that. Still trying to track down an older AT&T SIM card to test the unlock. Nothing is ever easy, lol

[Q] Can I lift AT&T limitations from my Legend?

Hi all
I have an Legend AT&T that I bought on Amazon last fall.
The fact that it is AT&T branded means it demands that I have an AT&T data plan in order to use WiFi tethering. This is annoying to say the least since up here in Iceland we have no AT&T. I have contacted HTC and they confirm the phone is open and onlocked. AT&T customer support tried its level best to assist me in "unlocking" the phone with out success.
Can anyone tell me how I can get out of this predicament. I also have an ASUS Transformer that I was hoping to connect to the internet with the ATH Legend.
This restriction also means that I can not get updates for the phone since it wants to connect to AT&T for all that.
Please help.
Olafur.

WTF are you trolling or something? You're probably also one of the unluckiest people on Earth as AT&T (US) never ever released the HTC Legend. It was rumoured: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/htc-legend-coming-to-atandt-according-to-fcc/ , but never.
I'm sorry, but can you try telling us what you did to try and resolve this issue? Most importantly, what interactions did you do with any Icelandic carrier to reproduce the problem? Posting any error massages (EDIT: messages*), or more stories about what you tried to do would definitely help.
Nevertheless, I'm going to try and dissect a problem from your post. You want to activate HTC's Wi-Fi Hotspot. You can't get any updates for the phone. Put those two issues together and you end up with Android 2.1 Eclair. I want you to confirm for me that you have that (Home > MENU > Settings > About Phone). Because if you do, and if I remember correctly, back when we had the Legend on 2.1, and were harassing violently HTC for a Froyo update, we never had Wi-Fi Hotspot functionality unless we rooted.
That's all I can gather from the information provided.
Do me a favour, check at your phone's box and tell me what model your Legend is. Is it A6366, A6363, or A6365? If it's A6366, you have an HTC Aria, not a Legend, and it's a phone NEAR-IDENTICAL to the Legend that was sold down south in the United States on AT&T.
I also have another ridiculous AT&T theory. See, Americans down there sometimes refer to AT&T as Ma Bell or whatever. Bell, (Ignoring the "Ma") could stand for Bell Canada, the carrier IN THE COUNTRY BORDERING THE UNITED STATES that actually carried the HTC Legend. Yeah, it's ridiculous, but who knows? Your Amazon dealer, I'm sceptical of his service now.
Lastly, I'd just love for you to know that whether that phone came originally from Bell in Canada, or AT&T in the States, it won't work on Iceland's 3G bands. Even if you manage to resolve this issue, you won't be able to run on 3G networks. Only the newer HTC devices (starting with Sensation, I believe) are able to run all 3G frequencies around the world (except the Canadian + American AWS bands, only the HTC Amaze can do that). So if you ever manage to get Wi-Fi Hotspot running, you may only use it on 2G EDGE or GPRS, which is painfully slow to browse the internet. You could probably ad-hoc with your Transformer or something, but that's beyond my help.
Good luck!
Love, Bryan from Canada

absolutely trolling

Trolling
I am sorry, what do you mean by "absolutely trolling"?
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absolutely trolling
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HTC Inspire
Hi. For some reason my reply seems to have gotten lost. I will repeat.
In the interest of simplicity I called the phone mine, it is my wife's so I do not have it with me. You are absolutely right, this is not HTC Legend, it is HTC Inspire. The OS is version 2.2.2 (I am more or less sure) and because of no AT&T account none of the software that came with it can be updated. The phone does have the WiFi hotspot option but when I select it the phone complains that I must have AT&T data plan and leaves it at that. It does switch the WiFi off even if it can't activate the Hotspot. So, the option is there but she can't use it to connect her Transformer to the net. This is a really strange shortcoming. Why would AT&T care about what plan she has? Without the Data Plan she would just have to pay dearly. That would just be her desicion.
We have done nothing to get the phone to work. It connects to Icelandic carriers without a problem (yes, 3G as well) and without errors of any kind. I did assume the phone was locked when I turned it on for the first time and purchased an unlock code. That code I never used since there was not unlocking required.
I am not sure what you mean by "trolling".
Thanks,
Ólafur

Ok considering your situation you should root it. The process is very simple. It's a one click root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app
Here's a video to help: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...m6DWCA&usg=AFQjCNEDETg2nq8rDBQWfKvlh9APF40fiw
It will root, unlock, install clockwork mod recovery, and superuser.
After that flash a rom. I will say I use the Rom called "Android Revolution HD 6.3.1" and can hotspot when ever I want, even without the AT&T account.
Video for that is here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...4dTCCA&usg=AFQjCNE6rGAT6Z8pN9omO8UshYbzAup5cQ
As always I take no responsibility if you brick your device, or if you damage your device in anyway. Hope I helped.

HTC Inspire.
Thank you very much. I will root the phone.
Ólafur

Just a FYI for the hotspot to to work you will need a new Rom. But as I stated in my post above, I use Android Revolution HD. It's a very good Rom. Please if I helped, hit the thanks button.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app

Yes, avoid any ATT branding with any new ROM you choose. For future reference, use the dedicated HTC Inspire/Desire HD forums here on XDA to assist others, assist in development, or seek assistance.
Sent from my Nexus 7 on the XDA app. GO CANADA GO