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If you are having problems getting GPS working (TomTom)

Hope this helps someone else
Firstly here are the settings for GPS that get TomTom working on my HTC 3600i
Device - Settings / System / External GPS
Programs tab / GPS program port: COM4
Hardware tab / GPS hardware port COM9 / Baud rate 115200
Access tab / Manage GPS automatically (enabled/selected)
TomTom - Change preferences / Show GPS Status / Configure
Other NMEA GPS receiver / GPS baud rate 115200 / GPS in COM9
Make sure you have the a recent ROM installed (Windows Mobile 6 appears to connect faster than 5), some of the older ROM's for the 3600 don't have GPS enabled. I'm using the standard HTC 3.00.707.18. ROM.
Don't bother looking for a way to turn on GPS on the unit, this happens automatically, the only key here is to make sure that you have the correct settings & your device settings match up with TomTom.
Ensure that you are standing outside for GPS to connect, it may take up to 6-8 minutes for a cold sync (however should only take ~2 minutes).
To check if your GPS is actually working, go to show GPS status, if you see the message "GPS Device Not Found" it's not working properly, check the above steps again. If you see "No valid GPS signal!" this means your GPS is working, however not yet locked on-to satelites (you might also notice the blue and yellow circle spinning).
Hope this helps.
Cheers - Steve

Nice summary! It should be made sticky.
Just my 2 pennies: TomTom should be 6.03.
My config is: WM5, GPD1, COM9, baud rate 57600, and ticked "Manage GPS automatically".

ozsmac said:
Hope this helps someone else
Firstly here are the settings for GPS that get TomTom working on my HTC 3600i
Device - Settings / System / External GPS
Programs tab / GPS program port: COM4
Hardware tab / GPS hardware port COM9 / Baud rate 115200
Access tab / Manage GPS automatically (enabled/selected)
TomTom - Change preferences / Show GPS Status / Configure
Other NMEA GPS receiver / GPS baud rate 115200 / GPS in COM9
Cheers - Steve
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hi steve,
my GPS works fine and i have baud rate set to 4800. will it be more efficient to set the baud rate to the highest setting 115200, like yours? what is the real different in baud rate, really? please comment.

sfaguy said:
hi steve,
my GPS works fine and i have baud rate set to 4800. will it be more efficient to set the baud rate to the highest setting 115200, like yours? what is the real different in baud rate, really? please comment.
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Setting the baud rate to anything other than 4800 has no real effect as the amount of data being transferred is minimal.
For any version of tomtom prior to 6.03 you would set your TT preferences to "other NEMA". Version 6.03 and 6.032 automatically select "internal GPS receiver" so there is no need to change anything.

Thanks ozsmac...worked beautifully...
I can also vouch that this works for TomTom 5.21.
Cheers!!

Quick GPS FIX
Using Trinity, I use this proggy "BEELINE GPS" with this programme u get a real quick GPS fix .
get a look here :
http://www.visualgps.net/BeeLineGPS/
if u wanna the proggy, look on the net or if needed i can download it here.

Im having only gray dots on the GPS Status! and it still say, No Valid GPS, I did the settings as mentioned in first post. any help is appreciated ahhh one more thing, Im trying it on Athena, so am I on the wrong thread? sorry if I am

Gps port?

Hi,
would like to know which port is for the internal GPS system, I deleted the pre installed tomtom navigator and try to install tomtom navigator6.0 This program prompt me for a GPS port and I don't know which one.
Could you help me?

Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro

With AP Touch Rom 3.0 on Google Maps I have to choose port 4 with 57600.

pumats said:
Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro
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via Settings->System->GPS I can select the com port on my T-Mobile Ameo DE
on TomTom you choose other NMEA receivers.

hi
in settings under external gps it asks for
programs .> gps program port ????
Hardware -> gps harware port -> i set it to com 4 57600
access - manage it autimatically is checked
and gps does not get any setting s in google maps
just says seeking sattleites ????

Hi.
In settings>system>external GPS:
GPS program port: WM5 -> com4, WM6 -> com5
Hardware : WM5 -> none, 4800, WM6 -> none, 9600
manage it automatically: checked
In TomTom (GPS status):
WM5: internal GPS, 4800, com4
WM6: other NMEA receiver, 9600, com5
These settings work for my device, hope it helps.
Mauro

On Google Maps and Delorme Maps I get "searching for satellite" when the settings are right, but it hasn't locked-on yet. When the settings are wrong, I almost instantly get an error message. So I'm guessing if you see "searching..." you have your settings right.
As for finding a signal, the achille's heel on this unit is locking on when you are inside (either a building or even some cars). Outside or inside my car it will lock on in 20-30 seconds, sometimes sooner. Inside my house or office it will fail 98% of the time. The sirf/star unit attached to my Palm will lock on inside my house - in the middle of the 1st floor - in under 20 seconds.
I think with all the trade-offs they had to make to get all 4 antennas to work together without interference, the signal strength on the internal GPS antenna got the short straw. I have top-notch strength on the cell and bluetooth antennas, so obviously they got top priority. I don't use wifi so I don't know how well it works, but the gps signal strength could use some work for the future X7502...

GPS, TomTom
I have a T-Mobile Ameo and recently I have installed TomTom Navigator 6.
when I start TomTom it takes between 5-20 minutes before it gets connected with a satellite.
Is this normal, or is there a problem..?
if not, what should I do to resolve this problem..?
grtzz,
Avicenna

GPS Hardware/firmware problem ???

After 2 days trying to make tomtom get a fix with me new (bougth used) Trinity without success, I installed GpsInfo to try to understand what was gps sending torough its comunicactions chanel (NMEA/COM9/4800), and found following:
It seems that NMEA sentences are sent 'without data', something like :
$GPGGA,,,,,,,,0,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*32
$GPGSV,1,1,00*79
On other pda, between every comma, there is a data/number, that I assume is the info thata the gps is sending....
For me it seems that gps has lost it´s configuration and is not able to send NMEA data, but it is working because I receive NMEA Start/End heads.
Is this assumption correct ???
If so anyone knows If gps chip(s) can be diagnosticated/reconfigured/reprogramated ??
P.S. It was bought with WM5 and Radio 1.38.
I've insttaled Radio 1.50 and WM 6.140 (Niax) and sympthoms are the same.
Any hint ???
Thanks

sorry i dont know the technical aspects of your question as far as reprogramming the gps but i do know that unless i have the following selected i dont get gps in any programs:
settings -> systems -> external gps ->
programs
gps program port : com2
hardware
hardware : com9
baud : 115200
access
manage gps automatically (yes, checked)
you might already have done this but i wanted to cover the first step before you go then, tell tomtom to look in com port 2. i also bought a used trinity with wm5 and no gps but those settings was all it took and now it works. good luck!

cecrops said:
sorry i dont know the technical aspects of your question as far as reprogramming the gps but i do know that unless i have the following selected i dont get gps in any programs:
settings -> systems -> external gps ->
programs
gps program port : com2
hardware
hardware : com9
baud : 115200
access
manage gps automatically (yes, checked)
you might already have done this but i wanted to cover the first step before you go then, tell tomtom to look in com port 2. i also bought a used trinity with wm5 and no gps but those settings was all it took and now it works. good luck!
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Trying to reproduce your config, tomtom says 'No Gps available'.
I assume you are configyring 'another NMEA GPS' and com2.
What velocity have you selected in tomtom?

thats funny ...
i think a have the problem ... its possible to navigate with tt but in the tt gps settings everytime he says no gps device but there is a connection. shown to me by the coordinates and like i said its possible to navigate. if i set up the gps new in tt there he detects the nmea gps successful but only 4 maybe 2 seconds. then its again no gps device ... sry 4 bad englisch ... any solution?
edit: well tt show me flight mode all time ... !

Tom Tom 7 Internal GPS???

I have recently installed TT7 with the v7 map.
The thing is i can´t configure TT7 to use the built in receiver opion.
To make it work i have to manually configure the GPS reveiver in TT.
I use the black version of TT7...
Any workaround for this?

It's the only working configuration for p3600
- "altri gps NMEA" - com9 - 4800 baud -
I think that tomtom 7 is optimized for htc diamond and it has a different internal gps chip.
But working and this is good

4800 or 9600 baud???
I´m using 9600 baud, why do you use 4800?

I'm also using 9600Baud works fine here....

Actually this only occurs if you use the repack 3 of the original TT7 port (from Touch diamond).
I loaded this today as I had re-flashed my ROM and wanted to try the re-pack.
I have since gone back to the original port and TT7 doesn't need any set-up for the GPS receiver....it automatically selects the uilt in unit.
By the way....after a bit of research it turns out the re-packs were done for 2 reasons. One was to allow devices which were not on the original approved device list (hence they wouldn't load) and secondly to allow the use of maps aquired by other means.........
I am going to stay with the clean original........it works just fine for me....

Problem With Mine Too
ok i have:
TomTom 7 v.7.450 (9028)
map: iberia-13 v.720.1803
GPS settings:
gps program port: com1
gps hardware port: com9
baud rate: 9600
now i installed it perfectly, it opens perfectly
but now it dosent pick up any GPS signal
what should i do? any solutuion?

LAMM44 said:
ok i have:
TomTom 7 v.7.450 (9028)
map: iberia-13 v.720.1803
GPS settings:
gps program port: com1
gps hardware port: com9
baud rate: 9600
now i installed it perfectly, it opens perfectly
but now it dosent pick up any GPS signal
what should i do? any solutuion?
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Which Tomtom7 version did you use? If you used the re-pack3 verssion you need to set the GPS receiver (in Tomtom) to Other Nema GPS.
If it is the standard Tomtom7 from the Kaiser thread it should find the internal GPS receiver without you doing anything.

finnaly working
ok
1º thank you Andych for giving me that hint
2º i whant to say that i had to change my WM version from
001TNYSXY - CE OS 5.2.19588 (Build 19588.1.1.4) WWE
to
Trinity WM 6.1 Diamond edition by Akeo V2 ---- v2 because v3 is off line still
and made some changes for ex:
took out:
TomTom 7 v.7.450 (9028)
and put in:
repack 3 of the original TT7
map: iberia-13 v.720.1803
GPS settings:
gps program port: com1
gps hardware port: com9
baud rate: 9600
and set the GPS receiver (in Tomtom) to Other Nema GPS
thank you all

i've tested 4800 and 9600 baud without difference so i use 4800 but 9600 works fine too.

Internel GPS
Work the internal gps with the repack 1 or 2 version???

I'm using TT7 v.7.450 (9028)
Other NMEA GPS
Baud Rate: 115200
COM9
Works perfectly, in fact seems to get a signal quicker than it did with TT6.
PS - Using ROM 007TNYSTD

I ve testet the black cap with the NMEA gps settings and is is very slow.
Then a reinstalled the black cap to the original tt 7 i have imediatly a signal with the iternal GPS.
The original TT7 is much faster than the black editions.

I got the black TT7 from this forum....
I didn't know there were other versions but it does seem rather slow.
Make My Day!, could you give me a link to the version that you say is faster than the black one please?

I mean that was the original CAP ( 1 link )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679
but you musst find the original (better) exe^^
I cant find it any longer. its delete from server where i find it.
Black repack edition: gps fix coldstart longer then 1 min only NMEA settings
original cap : gps fix very coldstart 5- MAX--> 10 seconds with Internal GPS

Ok well I'll try and find a version that isn't black then if that means I can get a quicker fix... Thanks for your help.

Make My Day! said:
I mean that was the original CAP ( 1 link )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679
but you musst find the original (better) exe^^
I cant find it any longer. its delete from server where i find it.
Black repack edition: gps fix coldstart longer then 1 min only NMEA settings
original cap : gps fix very coldstart 5- MAX--> 10 seconds with Internal GPS
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Hmmm... a very rapid gps fix coldstart could be because gps are always active .... What is the battery life with the original cap?

are people dyslexic on here its original CAB not CAP

jojordy said:
Hmmm... a very rapid gps fix coldstart could be because gps are always active .... What is the battery life with the original cap?
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No the GPS is off only you start tomtom it start too.
The Batary life is very long.
But the 1 start after insatll it can be that you musst wait for the signal becouse tomtom musst search the satelites.

Can't fin the TT7 original CAB
Can anyone give the link, or link here the original CAB so we can tast that?

Chaplan said:
Can anyone give the link, or link here the original CAB so we can tast that?
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http://www.4shared.com/account/file/52017805/504b2906/ttn7.html

IPAQ GPS issues and fixes

Hello. I have this IPAQ 614C and i'm using the GPS software IGO 8 . I noticed that it connects to the satellites very slowly , in about a minute , unlike any cheap car GPS that does it instantly .
Are there any fixes for the GPS module i can install ?
Here are some specs :
GPS_Protocol: NMEA 0183
Navigation+Chip(set): Qualcomm MSM6280 gpsOne
I know there are some GPS phones with SIRF chipset , are they better i hear ?

Use Less Bps
i use 4800 (and in settings its set to 115200 (which doesn't matther)
Lower speed -=> faster connect (at least here)
and use mgpscmd to open GPS port and use the option HOT START , exit , iGO (if under clear sky) should see the satelites soon after that minute or two

arcadekidflo said:
Hello. I have this IPAQ 614C and i'm using the GPS software IGO 8 . I noticed that it connects to the satellites very slowly , in about a minute , unlike any cheap car GPS that does it instantly .
Are there any fixes for the GPS module i can install ?
Here are some specs :
GPS_Protocol: NMEA 0183
Navigation+Chip(set): Qualcomm MSM6280 gpsOne
I know there are some GPS phones with SIRF chipset , are they better i hear ?
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Hi,
Settings should be (in GPS applet of phone) Hardwareport = com8 ; softwareport = com6 Baud = 115200 ; manage automatically enabled...
In iGo set your GPS port to com6
Fix should take less then a minute....
Dirk

arcadekidflo said:
Hello. I have this IPAQ 614C and i'm using the GPS software IGO 8 . I noticed that it connects to the satellites very slowly , in about a minute , unlike any cheap car GPS that does it instantly .
Are there any fixes for the GPS module i can install ?
Here are some specs :
GPS_Protocol: NMEA 0183
Navigation+Chip(set): Qualcomm MSM6280 gpsOne
I know there are some GPS phones with SIRF chipset , are they better i hear ?
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SIRF chipset is better, 61x gps is slow unfortunately =/
if you really need to get fast gps fix with 61x, your only option would be getting a BlueTooth gps to pair with

QGPS application
I was using 2 apps as a QGPS application 2 get faster cold&hot fix as u can see here
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the old way from one of my posts:
Install this
http://uploading.com/files/YI4IJTCC/...Quick.zip.html
Now update the app
Install this
http://uploading.com/files/15FMK62B/...ckGPS.CAB.html
Now update the second app but on this update you will get at 79% a fail note
Ignore it and check your GPS...
from my testes you will get a better hot fix (time )
If you are after SR or cold fix update the second app (the one that fails)
Good luck
Ps at the end it will look like this
sorry about quality of the move ,I had to upload to youtube ….so I compressed the file
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYbVnuwvluo
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u can still use my old way but now I have extracted the qgps app from the ipaq 900 and I had&have good fix (so I cannot see 4 myself if the 900 app is better)
Please test it and let me know if it helps u