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GPS and TomTom5 Problems

I recently purchased a bluetooth GPS receiver (branded as Fusion with X70 as the name on the back - purchsed from Polstar) and TomTom5 software but cannot get the two to work together.
I have bonded the receiver and set it as COM7 and I can choose that in TomTom5 as the COM port to use but it always says "No GPS Device!"
I have also downloaded and installed the BlueTooth Tools software but this hasn't helped either.
I have an o2 XDA2 and any help with this would be much appreciated.

I think mine is set to BT on com6. You must make sure the GPS receiver has a satellite signal before you try to configure tomtom (flashing light or whatever). Keep trying different settings, that's what I did

I think I have tried all the settings I can, I am beginning to wonder if i've got the correct version of TomTom5 installed! My device information says my platform is PocketPC and that is the version of TomTom5 I installed.
I have tried various settings and soft-rebooted my phone in the meantime after each change and tried without re-setting too!
This is getting rather annoying now

sorry, I'm using com5. Have you made sure you've got a satellite connection first.
Mine is version 5.000

When I turn on my GPS receiver I get two lights flashing, one to indicate that the bluetooth is sending a signal and the other to say that the device is receiving a GPS signal.

Try this...
Hi Dave,
Did you buy this via eBay? Couple of friends have bought from the same guy and neither worked, even though it seemed that they were (flashing lights, bonded etc). Both Polstar/Fuzion.
Anyway, if it won't connect via 'other bluetooth', try selecting 'other cabled device' and then select 4800 baud and your bluetooth com port.
Don't know why, but have had to do this with 3 different PDA's so far (2 XDA, 1 ipaq). It seems to work fine, although the data rate's a bit slow.

Any bluetooth gps I have has installed as com 5 when bonding, it asks if you wish to install serial profile and allocates com 5. I have noticed however that tomtom is very weird with its gps module, it keeps saying gps not found or signal lost etc and then I have to reselect other bluetooth and com 5 and even then sometimes I have to reinitialize the receiver before it is found. I always advocate the use of a wired gps if it is only required for vehicle use, it is less problematic, easy to configure and works 99.999999% of the time without problems.

If you run BT Manager and then check settings, it generally sets up as inbound com5 outbound com 6.
I have a Navman that behaved perfectly on Com 5 on TT3, on TT5 still behaves perfectly, but now uses Com 8 instead.
No idea why, don't really care that much -- it works.

I did buy the items from eBay and I am going to get back to the supplier (Polstar I believe) to see what I can fathom out.
Many thanks for all your advice, I have tried all options but still cannot get it to work so I will post a reply with the solution that works for me and hopefully it will work for others too.

No signal
Hi
the TomTom 5 has a new implementation, from the the TT3. It can manage the bluetooth connection. When you creat the connection with your pocket pc, by serial port, you must creat one connection of paired devices, as you created to your headset, bluethoot, of course. By the way, usually tt5 uses com 6 to connect with gps receivers.
The first time you configure your connection you must stay in position to receive signal from satelites, because its important to record all information from your gps receiver.
Regards

With regards to that marcusmodestus I think tonight, I will try and remove TomTom5 and delete my connection to the receiver and try installing again, from fresh.
Should I bond my reciever before or after I install? And should I run TomTom5 only with the bond in place?

bt gps
I bought one of these
set up as other cable on com5 but set baud rate at 38400 works fine 4 me

Success!
First, thank you all for helping me with this!
I have managed to successfully set it up now and here is the process...
Install TomTom5
Bond the device (I only had the option of Serial COM 7)
In TomTom5, change the preferences to use "Other Cable" and set the baud rate to 4800.
Magically I then get 5-6 satellites, a signal and an annoying American (which I will change to a nice english lady)
Thank you all again!

after hours of trial and error with tomtom5 and buzzmobile5.0 together with a xaiox wonde-xl bluetooth gps mouse (nemerix chipset) i learned the following:
it is recommended that you disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0 (not doing this has caused my device hang and auto soft reset some times). after that the following procedure worked for me:
1. pair your bluetooth gps device with your xda
2. assign a free outgoing com-port to that device (what com-port is best? please read text below.)
3. go to tomtom gps settings screen choose other bluetooth gps device
4. the assigned com-port number should appear in the next tomtom screen.
usually you should be done now and the connection should work, but i always had to delete the gps device in buzzmobiles bluetooth connection manager and had to re-pair it again, re-assign the com-port and re-start tomtom in order to get it work.
for any reason i then choosed to assign com8 as com-port for my gps mouse. and from this moment on tomtom5 was able to re-establish connections after switching of and on the gps or after switching xda on and off. i don't know what the exact reason is but choosing com8 was my solution to get tomtom5 working together with my gps on a comfortable way.
hope this helps others
regards
peter

I had this problem with Tomtom 5. No matter what I did it wouldn't work with my receiver.
I found that when I downloaded the 5.1 patch and installed it it worked fine with the GPS receiver set to COM6. Usually takes about 30 secs for the receiver to be found though. I think the update sorted out the Tomtom bluetooth support to a later version.

hi ...
how can i disable the gps manager of buzzmobile5.0?
thx mtc

settings --> system --> GPS
On the access tab uncheck the box
btw : I just saw that GPS hardware port shows com5 now. I'm sure I set both hard and software port to none cause somebody adviced this.
Anyway last week I didn't have to re-pair my gps in order for tomtom to find it ( which before I had to do every time I closed tt5). I've been messing in the registry to create extra com5 ports, maybe that's what caused it.
Anyways I now only have to switch on the gps and fire up tomtom and it immediately shows my position. Hope it will last..........

GPS DEVICE WONT BOND!

Hey there guys,
I got a problem, obviously
I have an Emtac III GPS unit: http://www.emtac.com/products/bluetooth/datasheet_btgpsiii.html
When I try to bond it, I get a yellow Q-mark. I get that even Before I try to add the password.
Secondly, Emtac does NOT have password, i.e. most BT devices have "0000" but this one hasnt got one.
In wm5.0 you HAVE to add a password in order to be able to click "Next" when adding a device. So I tried 0000, and also 0183 (which I got from a vendor).
None of them works, so my GPS device isnt bonded correctly and therefore I cant use it with Destinator GPS (like Tom Tom).
Does anyone know a fix/trick or anything that might help me??
NOTE: It worked great with my Magician before, no hassle there. So the GPS unit is fine.
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Not much I can add, only that the vendor passkey is the right one, as stated in the manual. Good luck. In most cases where a pairing process is not working the device driver is at fault, in other words not the right one for the device. Maybe a Win Mobile 5 issue, wrong driver (since it was working on your previous device). Suggest you check if you have the latest driver. Good luck.

Hi,
I'm also having the same problem with my Emtac III and my Jamin.
Again, it worked a treat with my old XDA2.
How did you go?
Did you find a fix?
Cheers,
Dev

Hi,
I have an i-Blue GPS and when I first bonded it, it had the same Question Mark as you. I then had to set up a new outgoing com port (next tab over) and then select the GPS device and pick a com port that was available - Com6 in my case.
I then edited my navigator.cfg file to force it to pick up Com6 as I couldn't pick it up from the list within navigator.
Have you gone through the steps of adding an outgoing port? This is a necessary step.
Hope it helps.
Craig.

Thanks Cags.
No I haven't set up an outgoing port, so I'll give it a whirl.
Destinator PN is the same as it only allows a certain number of comm ports to choose from.
Any got any ideas what file on Destinator PN I need to edit?
Cheers,
Deva

Hey thedeva,
I don't have any experience with Destinator sorry and I only had to change my cfg file because the options within Navigator wouldn't allow me to choose a com port that was allowable by the phone - I only had com 5 or 6. Maybe the port that your phone allows you to pick will be permitted in Destinator.
Sorry that doesn't help too much.
Craig.

montana said:
Hey there guys,
I got a problem, obviously
I have an Emtac III GPS unit: http://www.emtac.com/products/bluetooth/datasheet_btgpsiii.html
When I try to bond it, I get a yellow Q-mark. I get that even Before I try to add the password.
Secondly, Emtac does NOT have password, i.e. most BT devices have "0000" but this one hasnt got one.
In wm5.0 you HAVE to add a password in order to be able to click "Next" when adding a device. So I tried 0000, and also 0183 (which I got from a vendor).
None of them works, so my GPS device isnt bonded correctly and therefore I cant use it with Destinator GPS (like Tom Tom).
Does anyone know a fix/trick or anything that might help me??
NOTE: It worked great with my Magician before, no hassle there. So the GPS unit is fine.
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Set up a NEW OUTGOING COM PORT on com ports tab (in bluetooth settings) - COM6 with secure connection - Open Destinator and go to gps settings and either hit find gps either put COM6 - 57600 - NMEA manually and it should work fine.
IF YOU USE DESTINATOR 6 (NEWER THAN PN) AND YOU HAVE SWICHED EMTAC GPS FROM NMEA MODE TO SIRF WITH CRUX VIEW IT WILL NOT WORK. SWICH IT BACK AGAIN TO NMEA MODE AND IT WILL WORK FINE.
Hope this one will help you out.
Cheers.

Lucas0511 said:
Not much I can add, only that the vendor passkey is the right one, as stated in the manual. Good luck. In most cases where a pairing process is not working the device driver is at fault, in other words not the right one for the device. Maybe a Win Mobile 5 issue, wrong driver (since it was working on your previous device). Suggest you check if you have the latest driver. Good luck.
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Gps don't have password on device such as HP but on qtek (HTC) yes
the Emtac PW is different than other Gps (usually oooo )
Emtac PW is : 0183
try this you will see it work

TomTom and BT GPS
I believe TomTom requires the name of the GPS to end in "GPS"... try renaming it - or deleting and re-doing the partnership.
Charlie Grillo

Trinity - GPS - ? GPD port

Hi
Upgraded to mary Windows 6- but can't configure the settings for the GPS
Set the unit for Com 9 - but what setting is it for the GDP port?
Also- this section is in Italian!!
Paul

To use GPS, you actually don't need to touch anything in the GPS applet.
Just setup your application to use COM9 is good enough. Of course, if you want to use the intermediary driver, you can set it to whatever GPSx in your GPS applet setting.

Still no GPS....
Thanks for the answer.
I have set the hardware to Com9 - but it also asks what to set the software "GPS software port" to- but that cannot be com9 - it won't allow it. So far no success in getting the GPS to operate

what software are you using the gps with?

Using Google maps- Also GpsGate cannot find the GPS system- using Mary Win 6 ROM

solved it!
It needed a Radio upgrade to 1.5 to get the GPS to be recognised!

Mary without GPS
Hey
Can u send me the link to get radio 1.5? I'm having the sam issue.
Cheers

Gps port?

Hi,
would like to know which port is for the internal GPS system, I deleted the pre installed tomtom navigator and try to install tomtom navigator6.0 This program prompt me for a GPS port and I don't know which one.
Could you help me?

Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro

With AP Touch Rom 3.0 on Google Maps I have to choose port 4 with 57600.

pumats said:
Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro
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via Settings->System->GPS I can select the com port on my T-Mobile Ameo DE
on TomTom you choose other NMEA receivers.

hi
in settings under external gps it asks for
programs .> gps program port ????
Hardware -> gps harware port -> i set it to com 4 57600
access - manage it autimatically is checked
and gps does not get any setting s in google maps
just says seeking sattleites ????

Hi.
In settings>system>external GPS:
GPS program port: WM5 -> com4, WM6 -> com5
Hardware : WM5 -> none, 4800, WM6 -> none, 9600
manage it automatically: checked
In TomTom (GPS status):
WM5: internal GPS, 4800, com4
WM6: other NMEA receiver, 9600, com5
These settings work for my device, hope it helps.
Mauro

On Google Maps and Delorme Maps I get "searching for satellite" when the settings are right, but it hasn't locked-on yet. When the settings are wrong, I almost instantly get an error message. So I'm guessing if you see "searching..." you have your settings right.
As for finding a signal, the achille's heel on this unit is locking on when you are inside (either a building or even some cars). Outside or inside my car it will lock on in 20-30 seconds, sometimes sooner. Inside my house or office it will fail 98% of the time. The sirf/star unit attached to my Palm will lock on inside my house - in the middle of the 1st floor - in under 20 seconds.
I think with all the trade-offs they had to make to get all 4 antennas to work together without interference, the signal strength on the internal GPS antenna got the short straw. I have top-notch strength on the cell and bluetooth antennas, so obviously they got top priority. I don't use wifi so I don't know how well it works, but the gps signal strength could use some work for the future X7502...

GPS, TomTom
I have a T-Mobile Ameo and recently I have installed TomTom Navigator 6.
when I start TomTom it takes between 5-20 minutes before it gets connected with a satellite.
Is this normal, or is there a problem..?
if not, what should I do to resolve this problem..?
grtzz,
Avicenna

External GPS problem

Hi.
I got some problems with my new external GPS. I've tried MioMap v3 and Google maps, but the program can't find the gps. Bluetooth connection is working. Please help.
/Peter

If you haven't already, go into Settings -> Connections -> Bluetooth and tap on the "COM Ports" tab. Tap on "New Outgoing Port" and select the GPS and assign it COM0.
Then go back into Settings and tap "External GPS". In the "Programs" tab, select COM1 and in "Hardware" select COM0 (the original COM port you selected above). Now instruct any GPS progams to use COM1 for GPS.
Hope it helps.

Thank you, but I still can't get it connect to the gps. More help please.

Personally I've never used the "external GPS" app, and I think that's where everything goes wrong.
I'd do exactly as Drachan says regarding the Bluetooth COM port, then simply tell my GPS software to use COM 0.
Some software dosn't like COM 0, in which case assign it a different number.

I have these settings...I hope they're usefull!
Settings\System\External GPS
GPS program port:COM8
GPS hardware port:COM7 - Baud rate 57600
Manage GPS automatically:Unticked
Settings\Connections\Bluetooth
Devices/BTGPS/Services:NONE (no serial port there!)
Com Ports/BTGPS:COM7
edit:I did a Soft Reset after these settings and then I tried to connect my BTGPS!
Also in Googlemaps I had to set manually the settings(see attached pic)
Regards!

I know this is not the most useful comment you will ever read but I use tomtom 6 with the tomtom gps module. It was a straight install form the sd card and the bluetooth connection set up on its own so if all else fails and you have a bit of sparfe cash?

im having the exact same problem as well.. After restarting Google Maps loads of times it just radomly works. Really annoying!
Will try to set more settings manually.

Finally it works with Holux M1000.
Settings\System\External GPS
GPS program port:COM1
GPS hardware port:COM4 - Baud rate 57600
Manage GPS automatically:Yes
Settings\Connections\Bluetooth
Devices/BTGPS/Services:Yes
Com Ports/BTGPS:COM6
In MioMap 3.3 auto config