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Reason to still get a Nexus One?

I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o

Mokurex said:
I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
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Pros of Nexus One vs desire
Will get Froyo soon (with full flash support)
two mics with one being used for noise cancellation
Cons of nexus one vs desire
3g issue(not as strong 3g signal if held in hand and weaker signal then other 3g phones)
no outlook calender support by default
Pros of desire vs nexus one
sense ui (if you like sense)
outlook calender support by default
Cons desire vs nexus one
Will not get Froyo or other udates soon or at all
one mic with no noise cancellation
If it was me I would go with the evo 4g but if I had to choose N1 vs desire I would get the nexus one. You will end up using nexus one rom with froyo anyway if you want updates the same year they come out.
Edit: Removed incorrect info about touch screen.

Wow, you basically nailed everything. Thanks for the info man.

I believe the Desire has the same touch screen as the Nexus One, and the same 3G chip. The 3G reception and the limitations of the touchscreen are the same on both.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmnvikY0rg

PrawnPoBoy said:
I believe the Desire has the same touch screen as the Nexus One, and the same 3G chip. The 3G reception and the limitations of the touchscreen are the same on both.
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The desire has the same 3g reception problem???? 0.o
Never heard of that one before. I guess not enough people has the desire yet.

Mokurex said:
The desire has the same 3g reception problem???? 0.o
Never heard of that one before. I guess not enough people has the desire yet.
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That, or they just don't wine about it as much as Nexus One owners do (T-Mobile especially).

I'm in the same boat as you.. (my contract with t-mobile is up in 40 days).. I too am going with the nexus one over the desire and other phones.

Desire has the same identical touchscreen as Nexus, so no pros on the touchscreen. I think you have confused desire with the droid incredible.

I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend

vegetaleb said:
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
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That can't be right, LOL

vegetaleb said:
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
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Same here, lol, but my GF is constantly stealing my N1 from me, she loves the games on it.
Yesterday, at 1am, while still playing with it, she proclaimed that this is actually a "Family phone", so she has a right to use it all the time..
I guess I'll end up buying another one for her.

Yep, the ol lady is making noises. lol

N1:
1. N1 looks sexier than Desire.
2. N1 will get better attention from google.
3. N1 has active noise cancellation.
4. N1 has better development scene.
5. No SenseUI (I'd like to use google's interface).
6. Better support from community.
7. Tri-colour trackball notifications
Desire:
1. Desire has optical trackball.
2. It has more RAM (+50 I guess).
3. Comes with FM (I guess N1 will get it activated in the next update).
They both have the same touchscreen. So no advantages here...

faraz1992 said:
2. It has more RAM (+50 I guess).
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The Nexus One and the Desire have the same amount of RAM. They use the same SOC with 512MB of RAM. HTC must be combining the 64MB of RAM of another processor in the phone into their total while Google doesn't for their specs.

Out of all if these new phones coming out, the only feature I really wish my Nexus had is HDMI out. I could care less about the new screens, or higher res cameras with HD recording (the main upgrades you'll find in the newer phones).. Some people definitely will, but I don't. If none of those three features really matter to you, you can't go wrong with the Nexus. Performance wise there really isn't anything that's even been announced that will trump the N1 in terms of speed and power.
If it comes down to the Desire and Nexus, and you value custom development, then pick the Nexus.

There isnt such a difference between the N1 and the Desire ( except for the noise cancellation, form factor, trackpad, ). They share the same specifications and while the Desire has a bit more RAM on paper, I dont think it will make any difference in performance. The touchscreen technology is THE SAME on both phones, only the Incredible has the new touchscreen technology so hah !!! I currently have the N1 and I have to say that I love every bit of it. If i had a chance to choose one more time between the N1 and the desire, I will still go with the N1 for some subjectively unspoken reasons ( lol ), and I LOVE the glowing notification trackball of the N1, which is just SO cool and not many android devices are equipped with !

There is a thread in the Desire subforum about it's reception dropping when picked up.

te_quiero_forever_girl said:
There isnt such a difference between the N1 and the Desire ( except for the noise cancellation, form factor, trackpad, ). They share the same specifications and while the Desire has a bit more RAM on paper, I dont think it will make any difference in performance. The touchscreen technology is THE SAME on both phones, only the Incredible has the new touchscreen technology so hah !!! I currently have the N1 and I have to say that I love every bit of it. If i had a chance to choose one more time between the N1 and the desire, I will still go with the N1 for some subjectively unspoken reasons ( lol ), and I LOVE the glowing notification trackball of the N1, which is just SO cool and not many android devices are equipped with !
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The HTC Evo also has the new touchscreen. People are not paying it much attention yet..

Mokurex said:
I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
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Are both available in Thailand? If so, what's the price difference?

[CLOSED/G2/POLL] Thoughts after HTC announcement

So what do people think now? I am personally swayed to buy the Desire Z, but I would like to see what other people think.
Having watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ, I am pretty impressed by htcsense.com (for the off days that I forget my phone!). The maps app isn't really that smooth...the demo showed it being quite laggy on the Desire HD.
Build quality is great, performance seems smooth, keyboard looks fantastic (no numbers row though =[ ) and the screen looks crisp.
edit: maybe I should have also posted on the Desire HD forum! =P

Bye windows hello android
well im selling my TP2 no more windows for me and putting the rest with my pocket as well for the desire Z. i had doubts but after listening to that guy brag how the phone is... im sold. lol.

i also have a TP2,but i am going to keep it,however i want this phone, i looks sexy and thin, and it has htc sense

blaze7810 said:
well im selling my TP2 no more windows for me and putting the rest with my pocket as well for the desire Z. i had doubts but after listening to that guy brag how the phone is... im sold. lol.
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i've been fed up with windows mobile for about a year now with my HTC Blackstone...it's simply too old and dated an OS. And WinPho & is simply too locked down and not as flexible as I'd like it to be (I'm so sick of those tiles!).
Android looks like the way to me...and *if* I do want to load up my phone with something bloated and pretty, then I will use the HTC Sense bundled in with that phone...which is tons better than the HTC Sense on Windows Mobile.

The Desire Z looked great to me. Perfect size, build quality is on point, gorgeous keyboard, and very fast. I hope the G2 is the same color as the Desire Z, the G2 looks a bit lighter from the renders on T-Mobile's site.
The Desire HD was a bit of a let down to me. First off, it's not HD. A 4.3 inch screen needs a better resolution than 800x480. The colors on the screen look incredibly washed out compared to the Desire Z. Also is it true that the HD only has a 1250mAh battery?!
Can't wait to get the G2. Goodbye Vibrant.

skulk3r said:
i've been fed up with windows mobile for about a year now with my HTC Blackstone...it's simply too old and dated an OS. And WinPho & is simply too locked down and not as flexible as I'd like it to be (I'm so sick of those tiles!).
Android looks like the way to me...and *if* I do want to load up my phone with something bloated and pretty, then I will use the HTC Sense bundled in with that phone...which is tons better than the HTC Sense on Windows Mobile.
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i couldnt agree more. im done with the freezeing and sluggish UI. wp7 is prolly good but its not going to be on my tp2 so i have no reason to keep it. do u know for blackstone if it will be surpported?

skulk3r said:
Having watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ, I am pretty impressed by htcsense.com (for the off days that I forget my phone!)
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Looks like HTC have pulled that video off their Youtube account. I wonder why

I am eager to see how the MSM7230 800MHz performs compared to the 1GHz Snapdragon that sits in my Nexus currently. But I already know I will be pre-ordering the Desire Z ASAP. I have been waiting for a high-end qwerty Android phone from HTC for so long. Cant believe its finally here, and its *almost* everything I wanted..
I am a bit annoyed at HTC though, because they have a tendency to do this. The Desire HD has a great unibody construction which gives the phone that extreme high-end feel to it, while the Desire Z is left with a combination of aluminium and plastic finish. Why, I don't know. Also wish they would have put some aluminium love on the keyboard as well, but at least the keyboard looks good otherwise.
Those are probably my only concerns regarding the Desire Z (that, and the lame name). I hope the Z mechanism lasts as well though and wont get sluggish over time.
Anyway, its as close to perfect for me as any other phone has ever been so Im picking it up anyways. Just wish HTC would stop holding back when launching new phones. If the MSM7230 800MHz performs well then Im relieved, but if not then I will be mad at HTC for not going for the 1GHz version instead. The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
Now Im just waiting for pre-orders here to show up!

Untouchab1e said:
The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
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is GPU acceleration something that modders can address? also, I'm curious what the GPU does when its not being utilized for acceleration. isn't the very definition of a GPU that its a graphics accelerator? is it that Android uses it for some things like games and video, but not others, like scrolling and webpage rendering?
also, rumor has it that Android 3.0 will implement graphics acceleration, so for a good portion of the time you have your G2 you should enjoy said acceleration (for the record, yes I believe the G2 will be definitely be upgradeable to Gingerbread)

Untouchab1e said:
I am eager to see how the MSM7230 800MHz performs compared to the 1GHz Snapdragon that sits in my Nexus currently. But I already know I will be pre-ordering the Desire Z ASAP. I have been waiting for a high-end qwerty Android phone from HTC for so long. Cant believe its finally here, and its *almost* everything I wanted..
I am a bit annoyed at HTC though, because they have a tendency to do this. The Desire HD has a great unibody construction which gives the phone that extreme high-end feel to it, while the Desire Z is left with a combination of aluminium and plastic finish. Why, I don't know. Also wish they would have put some aluminium love on the keyboard as well, but at least the keyboard looks good otherwise.
Those are probably my only concerns regarding the Desire Z (that, and the lame name). I hope the Z mechanism lasts as well though and wont get sluggish over time.
Anyway, its as close to perfect for me as any other phone has ever been so Im picking it up anyways. Just wish HTC would stop holding back when launching new phones. If the MSM7230 800MHz performs well then Im relieved, but if not then I will be mad at HTC for not going for the 1GHz version instead. The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
Now Im just waiting for pre-orders here to show up!
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Haha same here. This is the qwerty device I've been waiting for!
After I watched the videos I actually got the impression the Desire Z had better build quality than the Desire HD did. I didn't see any brushed aluminum on the HD but it's all over the Z. Reporters even said that most of the Desire Z is made of metal (aluminum) and looks amazing. The HD looked just like the Evo 4G to me, which feels sturdy in hand, but doesn't have that fancy brushed aluminum finish to it.

Arcadia310 said:
Haha same here. This is the qwerty device I've been waiting for!
After I watched the videos I actually got the impression the Desire Z had better build quality than the Desire HD did. I didn't see any brushed aluminum on the HD but it's all over the Z. Reporters even said that most of the Desire Z is made of metal (aluminum) and looks amazing. The HD looked just like the Evo 4G to me, which feels sturdy in hand, but doesn't have that fancy brushed aluminum finish to it.
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Well, regardless of what you think you see, the HD is unibody (meaning its body is made out of one piece of aluminium) and the front is largely made out of glass...
Of course Im basing all this on what Ive heard and seen rather than my personal experience as I havent touched any of these yet. The Desire Z is made out of aluminium and plastic, while the z-hinge is supposedly made out of some sort of metal.. according to a HTC spokesperson, some kind of strong alloy. So at least it seems they have done a good job with that mechanism which is great news, as the Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 tends to get jerky after a while!

I am basically sold on the G2 at this point. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 6 years. A year ago I never would have thought of leaving...but in the last 6 months, I have been running all the Donut/Eclair/Froyo builds on my aging HTC Vogue (KUDOS to DZO, Myn, Incubus26jc and the whole Android Vogue group, their work is amazing) and even an imperfect Donut is better than WinMo. Running their modded ROMS has sold me on stock Android.
Not at all interested in WinPho 7...it looks lame and locked up. I was going to stick with Verizon, but kluging Bing on the Fascinate was the last straw. Any carrier that would do that does not care about Android at all...or their customers. Sense is the only UI I'd consider using...but even Sense is losing steam. Gingerbread is going to blow it away, I think.
At any rate...Tmo seems the only carrier interested in delivering the pure Android experience. They have better plans...and this new phone is going to be amazing, with lots of dev support.
I'm sold...goodbye Verizon.

If you think about it the new sense w/landscape is already developed for Desire Z so it should be a quick port and we would have the new sense and stock. I like to switch back and forth and the keyboard and HSPA+ are very tempting.

My thoughts after the announcement is I want an HTC Desire HD.

jstrom23 said:
I am basically sold on the G2 at this point. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 6 years. A year ago I never would have thought of leaving...but in the last 6 months, I have been running all the Donut/Eclair/Froyo builds on my aging HTC Vogue (KUDOS to DZO, Myn, Incubus26jc and the whole Android Vogue group, their work is amazing) and even an imperfect Donut is better than WinMo. Running their modded ROMS has sold me on stock Android.
Not at all interested in WinPho 7...it looks lame and locked up. I was going to stick with Verizon, but kluging Bing on the Fascinate was the last straw. Any carrier that would do that does not care about Android at all...or their customers. Sense is the only UI I'd consider using...but even Sense is losing steam. Gingerbread is going to blow it away, I think.
At any rate...Tmo seems the only carrier interested in delivering the pure Android experience. They have better plans...and this new phone is going to be amazing, with lots of dev support.
I'm sold...goodbye Verizon.
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Good choice. The G2 is definitely going to bring attention to T-Mobile. I think people are getting tired of all these Touchwiz/Motorblur phones and want Stock android. Like you said it seems that only T-Mobile cares about this. Verizon only cares about money and exploits Android to fill their pockets.

Arcadia310 said:
Good choice. The G2 is definitely going to bring attention to T-Mobile. I think people are getting tired of all these Touchwiz/Motorblur phones and want Stock android. Like you said it seems that only T-Mobile cares about this. Verizon only cares about money and exploits Android to fill their pockets.
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lol well, make no mistake, t-mobile cares just as much about making money as verizon does. they're just trying to carve out a niche in the market for "with google." that's their selling point for the G2. verizon's selling point is their network, which I think we can all agree is the best (in terms of coverage). they don't need to exploit a niche market because they're super mainstream, so they have the luxury of adding even more to their bottom line by making deals with companies like microsoft, i.e. the Bing deal

seems that the Desire Z and HD haven't won over everybody...but it is still quite popular (this is the Desire Z forum afterall)...I was thinking of buying it on the play.com website...but does anyone know if they do free shipping to Australia?

skulk3r said:
seems that the Desire Z and HD haven't won over everybody...but it is still quite popular (this is the Desire Z forum afterall)...I was thinking of buying it on the play.com website...but does anyone know if they do free shipping to Australia?
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Sucks for them. Those people won't be happy until the first dual-core 1.5Ghz phone with 400ppi and built in toaster gets announced. Even though they could not use that kind of speed...
Why don't you go on their website and see?

j.books said:
lol .............. verizon's selling point is their network, which I think we can all agree is the best (in terms of coverage). they don't need to exploit a niche market because they're super mainstream, so they have the luxury of adding even more to their bottom line by making deals with companies like microsoft, i.e. the Bing deal
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don't be to sure of verizon's network being that great - a) the more users on a network, the slower the network and that is the down side to verizon's network - they sell that network too well. But b) as far as coverage, don't underestimate Tmo's network or partnership carriers. Every year i travel with a couple of partner company reps to visit suppliers & clients in upstate Vermont (2 miles south of the canadian border), northwest texas, new mexico & oklahoma. One is with verizon & the other on AT&T (yeah i know AT&T is weak), but whenever we're somewhere rural, the verizon phone drops all bars while my tmo still has 1-2 - leaving Derby, VT and heading south, we're talking a 90 - 100 mile stretch that's pretty desolate going into low foothills - but the last time, my verizon buddy had to use my phone to finish a 20 minute call.
we've gone thru this 3 years running, whether we're in VT, New Mex, Tx or Oklahoma and every year he comments he needs to look at Tmo for his company. While Tmo may not own the entire network, they've been smart in partnering with a lot of the small carriers.
FYI

HTC EVO Shift 4G spotted

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/evo-shift-4g-aka-htc-knight-speedy-shows-up-in-accessory-pic/
Source: Engadget
Pictures of the upcoming htc evo shift 4g are spotted in an accessories ad.

SilverStone641 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/evo-shift-4g-aka-htc-knight-speedy-shows-up-in-accessory-pic/
Source: Engadget
Pictures of the upcoming htc evo shift 4g are spotted in an accessories ad.
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they really should have made it a 4 inch or bigger screen, still still will be a deal breaker for me! but Dual core would be very nice

I saw this and was highly disappointed that the screen wasn't bigger. Hopefully when all the real specs come out it'll make up for it.
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It's not a dual core. They picked apart a rom for it and it's the same newer version of the snapdragon as the G2.

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It's not a dual core. They picked apart a rom for it and it's the same newer version of the snapdragon as the G2.
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i never said it would have one i said it would be nice if it did. ill wait to see what the official specs are before i make a choice, i still wont give up my EVO!!!

I think the size is nice I wouldn't mind it they probably didn't wanna make it 2bulky since there's Gna be a keyboard on it now
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Looks like an eris mixed with incredible and evo.
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It's not a dual core. They picked apart a rom for it and it's the same newer version of the snapdragon as the G2.
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Basically sounds like its a G2 running Sense.
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Or a US Desire Z?

I want knight to have 4 inch screen or bigger and a 1080 p video capture and 12 mp camera and 10 hotspot people anf dualcore with ati graphics with and oled screen
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HTC does sport a FRONT FACING CAMERA and Gingerbread!
HTCV KNIGHT/SPEEDY etc....
To those waiting for a smaller EVO w/keyboard (though I like my Evo's screen size)....i came across this article a few hrs. ago. If the specs are true...I am buying one....I was not planning to get one without a front facing camera....but now I will get this....
Although..I wish that new HTC PRO fro windows was the next EVO #2. AND I DO NOT PLAN on buying those UGLY FUDGLY covers.......ewwww.....lol.
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/12/09/htc-knight-rumoured-ride-sprint-jan-6.htm

Looks like it will be a decent phone, but I had a Hero before my Evo, and a main reason I upgraded is a bigger screen and better processor. Now at least I won't regret buying my Evo when this one comes out. I love the design, feel, and huge screen on the Evo. Plus I don't need a slide out keyboard, speakers or whatever they may invent. But we'll have to see when some more pics come out from this new phone.

My guess is they're marketing this more towards the female population. I can't speak for all of them, but as far as my GF is concerned, she doesn't want a phone the size of the evo. Sounds like a mini-evo would be perfect

SilverStone641 said:
My guess is they're marketing this more towards the female population. I can't speak for all of them, but as far as my GF is concerned, she doesn't want a phone the size of the evo. Sounds like a mini-evo would be perfect
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Yeah, this is a little underwhelming.. I definitely would not use my available upgrade to get this over my EVO. I don't think this is their next flagship, more like you said, a way to broaden their audience even more.
It does look like a solid phone, just not quite an upgrade from the EVO

Actual photo of the phone with the keyboard open is out:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/11/htc-evo-shift-4g-knight-speedy-gets-leaked-picture-january/

not impressed tbh. ill stick with my evo until i switch to verizon later this winter.

kyocera dual screens!?!?

has anyone seen this? sprint is announcing the Echo and it has 2 screens!!! no word on anything else yet, but what does everyone think of it?

?!?!?!
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dubach said:
has anyone seen this? sprint is announcing the Echo and it has 2 screens!!! no word on anything else yet, but what does everyone think of it?
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Second generation 1ghz Snapdragon. This is beyond underwhelming, but this is Sprint afterall...

- Too bulky.
- No 4G.
- Already hinted to have terrible battery life seeing as they give you an extra battery.
- Massive fragmentation problems. Very little will take advantage of the 2nd screen.
Basically their answering questions no one asked and ignoring the ones being asked with this.
Really hope they just choose the wrong horse for the "Big" announcement and we see some good phones at MWC.

Wow,what a let down!!

I am disappointed. I've been holding out on my upgrade to see this but I guess evo it is. This dual screen concept is nice, but app support isn't there, the processor is not powerful enough, and the spec sheet I saw said 1370 mah battery---hero has 1500??? And Kyocera??
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Great concept for a handheld console, all-around not so good for a cellphone.

The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
I am disappointed. I've been holding out on my upgrade to see this but I guess evo it is. This dual screen concept is nice, but app support isn't there, the processor is not powerful enough, and the spec sheet I saw said 1370 mah battery---hero has 1500??? And Kyocera??
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Yup totally agree major disappointment IMO. And koycera!!! Really that is a joke..
Something.About.Me.U.Dont.Like.
Its.Cool.I.Understand.AWAH

Kyocera lol that's funny.
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LMAO! This is worse than terrible... Total Fail!!!

Sprint and kyocera really missed the memo with this one. I mean, I'm all for innovation and the dual screen thing is neat but to release it among this new generation of dual core, 4g phones that every other company is coming out with? Really weak to say the least. I mean if they would have put dual core, 4g, and a fat battery, on it and then sold it, Sprint and ESPECIALLY Kyocera could have helped their reputation and it probably would have been received a lot better
They brought a knife (albeit a really cool bowie knife or something) to a gun fight.
Terrible let down...
Good thing Aosp knows how to make a hero faster than a sonofab****.

This was an "Industry First"? Maybe, if they're goal was to be the first to put a ton of hype into something, and all they got was laughter for their efforts
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Sprint and kyocera really missed the memo with this one. I mean, I'm all for innovation and the dual screen thing is neat but to release it among this new generation of dual core, 4g phones that every other company is coming out with? Really weak to say the least. I mean if they would have put dual core, 4g, and a fat battery, on it and then sold it, Sprint and ESPECIALLY Kyocera could have helped their reputation and it probably would have been received a lot better
They brought a knife (albeit a really cool bowie knife or something) to a gun fight.
Terrible let down...
Good thing Aosp knows how to make a hero faster than a sonofab****.
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Dual core wouldn't help this failure.

The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
I am disappointed. I've been holding out on my upgrade to see this but I guess evo it is. This dual screen concept is nice, but app support isn't there, the processor is not powerful enough, and the spec sheet I saw said 1370 mah battery---hero has 1500??? And Kyocera??
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My thoughts exactly. I passed up the EVO, Epic, and Shift in hopes of them announcing something great but I'm sticking with my Hero for sure until at least April.
If Sprint gives us more crap like this at MWC, I'm leaving for either Verizon or Tmobile who I'm sure will give us something decent from there. I might even switch to ATT for the Atrix or Inspire 4g.

I also was disappointing. It seems like a really big gimmick. From what I have read, only a handful of apps are able to handle running dual screen.
And it's really underpowered. Read that the battery life will be around a day with "heavy" use, but that must be with both batteries. The display on my Hero right now is the biggest battery muncher. Can't imagine having it double.

yeah looking through what happened yestday... sprint let us all down with this underpowered kyrocera phone. only have one good feature......the two screens that it... well good job i say and back to the drawing board.

Video, I think its stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrK9fDXeic&feature=feedu

borrowedchief said:
I also was disappointing. It seems like a really big gimmick. From what I have read, only a handful of apps are able to handle running dual screen.
And it's really underpowered. Read that the battery life will be around a day with "heavy" use, but that must be with both batteries. The display on my Hero right now is the biggest battery muncher. Can't imagine having it double.
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Yep, basically this phone will have to run custom apps. And you can't have different apps on the screens.

This was a huge disappointment to me as well and I'm holding onto my hero until a worth while phone comes out. Also I wouldn't expect anything at MWC. Sprint will most likely announce upcoming phones at CTIA.

Buda76 said:
This was a huge disappointment to me as well and I'm holding onto my hero until a worth while phone comes out. Also I wouldn't expect anything at MWC. Sprint will most likely announce upcoming phones at CTIA.
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You sound like you just will hold onto it forever.

Sprint's Motorola Photon 4G available July 31 for $199 on contract

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans

Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.

CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.

I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.

mattykinsx said:
The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.

Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.

mikeyinid said:
Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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conqu1stador said:
I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.

Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.

mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.

Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.

spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.

It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.

I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha

The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.

jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx

CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner