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N1 losing to a pre?

hey guys
go over here and vote for the N1, its losing to a pre....
http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-6-nexus-one-vs-palm-pre-plus

Voted... but only because I believe the Nexus One is superior.

I voted too, but only because the Pre is a far superior device and only because I couldn't vote for the iPhone. Just kidding! Geez! Calm Down!!! Seriously, how can the Pre be beating an N1?!?!

sliverofme said:
I voted too, but only because the Pre is a far superior device and only because I couldn't vote for the iPhone. Just kidding! Geez! Calm Down!!! Seriously, how can the Pre be beating an N1?!?!
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"BURN HER!!!"

sliverofme said:
I voted too, but only because the Pre is a far superior device and only because I couldn't vote for the iPhone. Just kidding! Geez! Calm Down!!! Seriously, how can the Pre be beating an N1?!?!
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Because Pre owners have nothing better to do and look for voting sites for their phones. Or because we N1 users know that it is superior to the Pre or the idud and we don't want our competitors to feel crushed ;-).
I voted for the N1 of course. Sill we are way behind, lets catch up.

voted for the n1.

****ty contest from a ****ty mag... big surprise?
the pre is a joke... ive yet to talk to someone who actually enjoys their pre... and i know a few people who have also broke that ****ty slider on the phone... its so poorly made i cant believe they would release a device that has the fragility of my grandmas good china

You can vote more then once

i lol'd
and voted a few times

odd i voted and after a few times it didnt increment, the n1 vote nor the pre+ vote
i not like i didnt think this e-peen contest voting thing was crap anyway but i think this is rigged, ive never even heard of this site
still vote though! heh

I voted but it all seems rigged...

[Q] mytouch vs Samsung

So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.

Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I was talking about the mytouch 4g.

What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.

STHNS said:
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.

STHNS said:
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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yeah the one differance is 4g and ffc which you can put a ffc in the original yourself. so really? HUGE upgrade -_- i cant wait for the new sidekick 4g though! i cant wait to get a new phone this one is ticking me off.

tinpanalley said:
I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
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Wasn't trying to offend you but was just stating facts as we covered it long ago here. Now in what ways will Vibrant 4G be better?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909916
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913896

I'm with STHNS. After buying a Captivate for my gf and doing research on it I am flabberghasted at how many issues plague that phone. The rooting procedure is a nightmare, the GPS is a joke, Samsung's bloatware is incredible and almost a year later they still haven't updated it to Froyo.
I am VERY glad I didn't get a Vibrant. Stay away is my advice.

Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.

tinpanalley said:
Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)

tinpanalley said:
So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.

itmustbejj said:
My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
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Agreed. We've got the best processor, the most RAM, and because it's an HTC we've got tons of ROMs and developer support. There's been an ongoing project to port the Nexus S ROM over to SGS for months now and it's still unstable. We've got CM7 as a daily driver already.
kgbkny said:
I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
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I would agree with this. I had much respect for Samsung but after buying my gf a Captivate and doing more research I'm on it I'm very displeased with them.

LOL kgbkny I remember when I had HD2 and Vibrant first came out people came up to me and was like this is better than yours I was like idiot you don't even have lagfix installed and I can beat it down without scaling my CPU at 768mhz. He had no idea so I installed various packages and fixes and he agreed it ran better after and was thankful. But ya Samsung you should avoid it period go with superior mobile vendor like HTC how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC? Lets be real now HTC is the way to go.

STHNS said:
how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC?
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.

Phateless said:
That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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lol they have reason for that as AT&T's flagship is iPanzy 4 which is another thread of its own but ya AT&T is just crippling Android device in its lineup. I been telling ya all not to trust THE death star as VZ is the only carrier left from the OG Bell 6/7 split.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCp-1hgfxI

Flonkas said:
Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I laughed at this one and I'm a vibrant owner. I got my wife a mt4g for xmas and there is no comparison. Stock out of the box the mt4g is leaps and bounds better than the vibrant. As far as speed and response, the stock mt4g was at a minimum as fast as my rooted/modded/voodoo lagfixed vibrant.
I've installed just about every rom that's come out for the vibrant from eugene, master, and team whiskey as well as every leaked modem that's come out and the mt4g consistently gets better signal than my vibrant as well. I'll be sitting in my house and the vibrant goes back and forth between edge and 3g and I've never seen the mytouch on edge once. Then you have to factor in the gps problem of the samsungs and the fact that samsung has a terrible history of supporting their devices. They'll straight up leave you hanging. They came out with the galaxy s line, then in no time flat they come out with the nexus s, and now they've come out with the vibrant 4g. All that is great if they support their devices when they move on to new ones but they have a history of not doing that. In the meantime I can put gingerbread on my old ass HTC G1.
The one thing the Samsung has going for it is the screen. That screen is hot **** but it's not so great that it makes up for all the other areas that it's deficient in IMO.
Plus the mt4g has sensui. Not everyone likes sense. I do, but more importantly I can run the senseui but if I want something different I can root the phone and install a more vanilla android experience. With the vibrant there isn't any stable sense roms running on it. So you have more variety with the mt4g as well. Plus the extra RAM doesn't hurt either or the FFC. I like the physical buttons and the trackpad as well. YMMV.

see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5K1CBTRHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sRMdYFlyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaFM6UgDnQ

Actually the original galaxy s the international version had the FFC, may be tmo is just playing this apple game of streaming the upgrades for its customers.
The MT4 will still be the better phone if samsung chose to use the same wimpy cpu already found in their vibrant.

Phateless said:
That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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AT&T is getting the Desire HD very soon. Of all the current phones, it's the only one that I would give up the MT4G for.

Did you check the communication spec for DHD? It uses 900/2100mhz for 3G you won't get 3G in USA but you can use 2G for d/v. Far as MT4G vs DHD goes I was like you also but as they do share similar spec but if you look at benchmark you will see MT4G is superior than DHD but DHD does have 4.3" display lol which I miss so dearly, but also would have picked DHD if had 3G support.

For everyone who has been complaining about sprint and the lack of an EVO successor

It seems a bunch of people here have decided there's no reason to wait to hear any other announcements and sprint is just idling right now. To me, that's fairly baseless speculation, so I figure I'd counter with some more speculation that could just as likely be the reference model for the eventual EVO 2 (As mentioned in the article, if you can't be bothered to read it): http://androidandme.com/2011/02/pho...pyramid-superphone-coming-to-t-mobile-by-may/
There. 2 sides to every coin.

So, the Evo 2 is going to T-Mobile? Not sure you've properly countered anything.

halorin said:
So, the Evo 2 is going to T-Mobile? Not sure you've properly countered anything.
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Reading Comprehension much?

halorin said:
So, the Evo 2 is going to T-Mobile? Not sure you've properly countered anything.
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I believe the OP is a prophet! He mentioned you in his OP!

Overall, I’m pretty pumped to see how this device plays out. Just because T-Mobile is picking up the Pyramid, that doesn’t mean they will have an exclusive. It is very likely that Pyramid is just HTC’s reference design for their first dual-core phoneand it could make it multiple carriers. For all we know, the Pyramid could eventually become the EVO 2.
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With the MSM8660 processor, perhaps the EVO2 could even be a follow up to the Touch Pro 2 and be the first Android-based "World Phone"... How's that for speculation?

While I don't believe the pyramid will be the EVO2. I do agree that people are complaining too much, a lot of people switched to sprint just for the EVO, so why not switch to another carrier for a better phone? Also, has everyone just up an forgot about MWC?
On a side note, if the EVO line is continued I'll bet three of my four jees that it's EVO^2

thekingofmean said:
While I don't believe the pyramid will be the EVO2. I do agree that people are complaining too much, a lot of people switched to sprint just for the EVO, so why not switch to another carrier for a better phone? Also, has everyone just up an forgot about MWC?
On a side note, if the EVO line is continued I'll bet three of my four jees that it's EVO^2
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MWC.... where Sprint makes all of their announcements. Also, CTIA

Hmmmm, Just how many direct model variants of a smartphone has t-mobile and sprint had? Ummmm..........

I've still got faith that us Evo owners will see our sequel at CTIA. That's when the original Evo was first talked about.
I'm excited. That new dual screen is pretty cool too.

Problem with Sprint is.. even if they DO get the Evo 2.. itll likely be the only superphone on Sprint worth getting this whole year just like the Evo was last year. There's no variety at all.

1. 16mp camera??? Hahaha
2. if tthis does come to sprint, it better be 250 or less and it better be something unique like the evo was
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

brownhornet said:
Problem with Sprint is.. even if they DO get the Evo 2.. itll likely be the only superphone on Sprint worth getting this whole year just like the Evo was last year. There's no variety at all.
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Good. The more handsets they have at each price-point/performance level, the more they hafta spend on advertising and the less they have to spend on important things like network upgrades. If they have one superphone running android and one running Win7, that is plenty. You don't grow your base from the top down. Go to any real HiFi shop and see how many world-beater speakers or amps they carry. Most good shops only carry one or two items at any given price...for a reason. Most people aren't going to buy top of the line. If you have 6 superphones, you are taking on a lot of overhead, in terms of product and warehouse space, to compete for a small portion of the market. Most people still go for whatever phone they can get cheap or free.

Crossrocker said:
1. 16mp camera??? Hahaha
2. if tthis does come to sprint, it better be 250 or less and it better be something unique like the evo was
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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I believe there is already a company doing a 16mp camera for a phone. I think Sony or Fujitsu.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948413
I believe that the next EVO is right here.

swaze said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948413
I believe that the next EVO is right here.
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Are you serious? Everyone knows that news was fake. I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint thought the Echo was their next EVO. Damn idiots.

brownhornet said:
Problem with Sprint is.. even if they DO get the Evo 2.. itll likely be the only superphone on Sprint worth getting this whole year just like the Evo was last year. There's no variety at all.
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You plan on having 6 or 7 smart phones at once?

m4rk0358 said:
You plan on having 6 or 7 smart phones at once?
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I've bought 4 smartphones per year for the past 3 years. I am one of the people who switched to Sprint because I had to have the latest and greatest. I am jumping ship when the phone I want is available. I need variety and choices. This EVO is already so outdated.

Misty Blue said:
This EVO is already so outdated.
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Yeah it can barely doing anything for me anymore.

Misty Blue said:
I've bought 4 smartphones per year for the past 3 years. I am one of the people who switched to Sprint because I had to have the latest and greatest. I am jumping ship when the phone I want is available. I need variety and choices. This EVO is already so outdated.
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Based on your logic, I'm not sure there is a carrier out there that works for you. And you don't "need" variety and choices...you want them. Big difference.
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What phone do you prefer?

I know alot of people have done something like this already just wondering who likes the newer phones that are out and want's one or is using one. Love the Evo wondering what would be better to swap over too next.
1. Epic looks sweet
2. Echo 2 screens looks sweet lacks 4g
3. Galaxy S nice look to it.
4. Evo 3d looks nice tho the evo's already struggle with battery life think this one will make it worse. Nice features tho.
So what phone do you prefer to get and why?
P.S. This is general thread question. Thought it would be better here then Q&A those are more for Trouble shooting tech problems.

I would go with an Evo 3D or galaxy S.
The Echo...get serious.

I voted for the 3D. Its the best one that's confirmed to be coming to Sprint.

Echo, for sure.
Hear that phone is a BEAST!

I voted for the Galaxy S because my cousin just got the GS2 for T-Mobile that I rooted. So far its a pretty cool phone. I like how slim and lightweight it is and don't forget about how cool the screen is haha. But I also would like to try out the Evo 3D even though I don't see the point of having a 3D phone nor TV. But the hardware and sense 3.0 is sweet

i jumped ship after 6months with the Epic, "LACK" of support was my biggest gripe. i come to the EVO and I'm super happy on this side of the fence. I will sticking to the HTC brand for quite some time to come. only one man's opinion.

If I could buy any phone today (or this summer, obviously), I would choose the Galaxy S II. Without question. Slimmer device, better screen, better battery life, etc.
And the whole "Samsung sucks with updates" thing has been proven to be complete and utter b.s. It's the U.S. carriers. All the other countries around the world got FroYo for the Galaxy S last Fall. Some countries even earlier than that.

bjb_nyj101 said:
If I could buy any phone today (or this summer, obviously), I would choose the Galaxy S II. Without question. Slimmer device, better screen, better battery life, etc.
And the whole "Samsung sucks with updates" thing has been proven to be complete and utter b.s. It's the U.S. carriers. All the other countries around the world got FroYo for the Galaxy S last Fall. Some countries even earlier than that.
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If it was all up to the carrier then why did the evo receive updates more readily than the epic? Also, evo upgrades were solid while Samsung and sprint ended up pulling updates on two occasions because of instability and complaints. That never happened with the evo ... there is truth to the complaints and what's been said about Samsung...
Tapa tapa tapa

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If it was all up to the carrier then why did the evo receive updates more readily than the epic? Also, evo upgrades were solid while Samsung and sprint ended up pulling updates on two occasions because of instability and complaints. That never happened with the evo ... there is truth to the complaints and what's been said about Samsung...
Tapa tapa tapa
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I used to say that also. The Evo got updates, but the Epic didn't. Then I looked around, and saw that basically THE ENTIRE WORLD has 2.2 on their Galaxy S, except for here in the U.S. There are already leaked builds of 2.3 for the original Galaxy S, but yet the U.S. phones don't even have FroYo. I'm not saying that Samsung is without fault here; what I am saying is that if the the rest of the world (pretty much) has 2.2 on their Galaxy S, there is obviously something going on with the U.S. carriers.

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I used to say that also. The Evo got updates, but the Epic didn't. Then I looked around, and saw that basically THE ENTIRE WORLD has 2.2 on their Galaxy S, except for here in the U.S. There are already leaked builds of 2.3 for the original Galaxy S, but yet the U.S. phones don't even have FroYo. I'm not saying that Samsung is without fault here; what I am saying is that if the the rest of the world (pretty much) has 2.2 on their Galaxy S, there is obviously something going on with the U.S. carriers.
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I get your point, nonetheless I prefer HTC though I think the Sammy has better hardware. My wife has had a poor experience with both the moment and now the epic. These experiences have led me to question Samsung more and more while HTC has never let me down. Even my touch price was solid (though I know this wasn't the case for most)...
Tapa tapa tapa

Echo looks cool wonder how the hinges hold up tho and battery life

reaper24 said:
Echo looks cool wonder how the hinges hold up tho and battery life
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That fake ass Nintendo DS is bull****
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JUST2SUAVE said:
That fake ass Nintendo DS is bull****
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LMAO nice never thought of it that way be4.

Samsung Galaxy S2 finally on its way to Sprint!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-with-wimax-stops-by-the-fcc-on-its-way-to-sp/
Hopefully this means "within" the next month! But seriously.

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http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-with-wimax-stops-by-the-fcc-on-its-way-to-sp/
Hopefully this means "within" the next month! But seriously.
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The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.

I'm a little torn about this. Do I jump on this or wait to see what the prime looks like?

dirkyd3rk said:
The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
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Yeah seriously, if it has the keyboard i'm gonna be pi$$ed especially for waiting so long.

No keyboard

pandamaja said:
I'm a little torn about this. Do I jump on this or wait to see what the prime looks like?
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Dont hold your breath waiting this year for a nexus prime; I wouldn't expect that until next year some time. I think the photon, iphone 4s, htc kingdom, hero 4g, and some random wp7 mango phones are all thats coming out this year. At least that's the only phones we will care about lol. I cant prove this information im just stating rumors and info that leaked on other websites; it could all be false lol.
I dont know why but i have a weird feeling the sprint sgs2 is going to have a keyboard like the first galaxy did and the real galaxy s 2 (samsung within) is something entirely different.

FINALLY!
After almost three years of android phones, I'm bored as hell. Yeah my current G2x is near instant in almost every UI interaction, over 5000 quadrant, etc etc but Android itself is just boring at this point. I'm hoping something hardware wise can amaze me and renew my interest in Android, and I'm thinking the SAMOLED+ screen might be it.

dirkyd3rk said:
The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
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Dirk what are you rockin now? Thought you have the 3D. Are you looking to replace that already for the SG2?

dirkyd3rk said:
The cell phone gods have answered our prayers.......I want this!
It better not have a keyboard like the att version or im not even looking at it.
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The article says its the same form factor as the leak which didn't have a keyboard.
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theoner1 said:
Dirk what are you rockin now? Thought you have the 3D. Are you looking to replace that already for the SG2?
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I still have my 3D and yes im looking to sell it. Im currently in an htc arrive atm looking to purchase a better android device. I hate the 3D.

I wonder if this could be the 4.5" Hercules rumored for T-mobile, except for Sprint? Seeing as the dimensions are wider and taller than the international version. Could be just to make room for WiMax radios I guess.

So do you think we would be able to start using the custom ROMs that are already available for the international version when this one comes out?

AdamHart612 said:
I wonder if this could be the 4.5" Hercules rumored for T-mobile, except for Sprint? Seeing as the dimensions are wider and taller than the international version. Could be just to make room for WiMax radios I guess.
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Yeah It could be because of the wimax radio's or it could have a gay qwerty keyboard.

m4rk0358 said:
So do you think we would be able to start using the custom ROMs that are already available for the international version when this one comes out?
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Doubtful. Probably real easy ports tho.

m4rk0358 said:
So do you think we would be able to start using the custom ROMs that are already available for the international version when this one comes out?
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Its hard to tell so early isnt it? probably could port. Idk man im stuck in a situation right now to even start thinking about that so early. I wanna sell my evo 3D, I still have my upgrade which means my contract is already expired, should I buy this with my upgrade? I planned on leaving sprint to get the iphone 5 so i dont know what to do! ahhh

I have upgrades available on two of my lines that I may be using if something truly intriguing comes out. After the track record that Samsung and Sprint have when it comes to system updates, I am probably not going for the SG2, as pretty and awesome as it is. I will see what comes out there.

Yea well cyanogen is already supporting the sgs2 or they have a couple and are developing cm for it I dunno I don't really keep up on it but it should be fully tweak able unlike the 3d(for now). I love my evo 4g but I think it's a good time to up my cores. Plus, HTC isn't earning any points by not sticking to their promises like releasing source code whenever they damn well please and the whole bootloader fiasco. All that just makes those samoled screens look even better. Wish they weren't all plastic but thats apparently how you have to make a thin phone. Just looks cheap for such an expensive piece of hardware.

dirkyd3rk said:
Dont hold your breath waiting this year for a nexus prime; I wouldn't expect that until next year some time. I think the photon, iphone 4s, htc kingdom, hero 4g, and some random wp7 mango phones are all thats coming out this year. At least that's the only phones we will care about lol. I cant prove this information im just stating rumors and info that leaked on other websites; it could all be false lol.
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Yeah, but at the same time Google has confirmed ICS for a Q4 release. And prime is supposed to be Google's first ICS phone....which I'm realizing now that doesn't mean the first ICS phone...just google's first.

dirkyd3rk said:
I still have my 3D and yes im looking to sell it. Im currently in an htc arrive atm looking to purchase a better android device. I hate the 3D.
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Yeah the 3D is not my cup of tea either. Play around with it at the store and wasn't impress by it at all. Love my 4G but absolutely hate my video cam on it. Very very poor in low light (every custom rom available) compare to my Daughter's Epic and this SG2 which seem to probably be alot better then the 3D or any HTC in that department. So this might be my next phone as well if nothing else releases by then.

TheSilverStig said:
Yea well cyanogen is already supporting the sgs2 or they have a couple and are developing cm for it I dunno I don't really keep up on it but it should be fully tweak able unlike the 3d(for now). I love my evo 4g but I think it's a good time to up my cores. Plus, HTC isn't earning any points by not sticking to their promises like releasing source code whenever they damn well please and the whole bootloader fiasco. All that just makes those samoled screens look even better. Wish they weren't all plastic but thats apparently how you have to make a thin phone. Just looks cheap for such an expensive piece of hardware.
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Yeah dude thats one thing about that sgs2, that thing is fully plastic and super light weight. I really like the metal/heavy phones!!! I would be scared to keep that phone in my pocket because its so plastic thin.