No seriously.
Am I crazy for want a port of the Rodgers 2.1 update?
I mean I do like the Cyanogen ROM's but I'd REALLY like to have a full working Sense ROM.
And seeing as this update was for the magic, wouldn't a port be fairly easy?
or does the SPL/Radio requirements pose an issue porting to other devices ???
BTW, is anyone working on a port of this or has "choice" died out due to everyone using CM?
You're not crazy, but I wouldn't bet on getting a port for the 1.2. In order to run it needs a completely different radio and spl plus other drivers. Even if someone "coerced" the kernel to run on the old spl and a radio made for another device, you'd still probably be lacking drivers for the touchscreen and the audio jack.
Even if the Rogers Magic and the MyTouch 1.2 are both 32A devices, the hardware differences are noticeable, making porting a very hard job.
That being said, I'm going to check out the price for a Desire from my provider. I've been waiting for this update since early spring and now that it's finally here, the bastards disabled multilanguage and won't release a proper WWE, unbranded version. The speed's nothing to brag about, either...
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You're not crazy, but I wouldn't bet on getting a port for the 1.2. In order to run it needs a completely different radio and spl plus other drivers. Even if someone "coerced" the kernel to run on the old spl and a radio made for another device, you'd still probably be lacking drivers for the touchscreen and the audio jack.
Even if the Rogers Magic and the MyTouch 1.2 are both 32A devices, the hardware differences are noticeable, making porting a very hard job.
That being said, I'm going to check out the price for a Desire from my provider. I've been waiting for this update since early spring and now that it's finally here, the bastards disabled multilanguage and won't release a proper WWE, unbranded version. The speed's nothing to brag about, either...
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Damn >_<
Oh well, I just posted up my MT3G & Dask for trade for a MT3G slide or Nexus one
Haha neither will probably happen
Sorry to blow your bubble.
One more thing, could you please rename the topic to something like "official rogers 2.1 update on the fender", so that it's easier for other users to find the answer?
know its a little late but there isn't any need to do anything to the kernel at all
simply move the audio apk's from the 1.6 stock tmo rom for the 1.2 to the rogers package. i would imagine the same would be true with the video drivers
ill do some more research on this but thats basically all thats required
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This is thread about porting the ORIGINAL ROM of HTC HERO that HTC announced in its event on 24th June...........
Any one who gets hold of the ROM please upload it here so that the devs can start porting ...
The ROM that original firmware has is slight different and it seemed to be much more complete and smoother....
THE ROM IS NOT YET THERE>>> THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION
If this a discussion thread then i will move it to general, thanks for the clarification
i cant wait until we get it. hopefully Haykuro shows up with it out of the blue and becomes our Hero.
How does everyone think the Sense UI Rom will run on our G1s? Do you think it will be as fast as it was in the Hero Demo or will it be slightly slower than that because the Dream has less ROM/RAM vs the Hero?
im sure that it will be faster than our current hero rom with a2sd. It might be a little slower but i dont think it should be that noticeable of a difference.
it should be able to run well...swapper will make up for the ram we dont have and a class 6 card will also help our cause.
HTC Hero G3 Released to T-mobile and G1 update
looks like T-mobile will Released Hero by November and December and
will released the flash player to all G1 (OTA UPDATE)
update code Name: flash (V2.0) update..
"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
taken from - http://www.engadget.com/ -
well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
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"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
taken from - http://www.engadget.com/ -
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
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well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
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why not both? ;P
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
why not both? ;P
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This is why I love xda
does anyone think that this could be done without root, similar to the manual update for T-Mobile 1.5? Maybe you could just edit the contents of T-Mobile 1.5 to add the UI changes?
I really doubt it, if it were possible I think we would've done that with some of the ROMs that have been released. You're on a developer website, you have to take some risks because this is "in development' not finished.
as I stated in another thread, HTC is not bringing sense to "with Google" branded phones, however, there are non google dreams out there, I think roger's is one of them. Once rogers gets rosie, it's gonna be an easy port to any dream rom.
Anyway, if somebody dumps a hero rom, there shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't run on Dream. Hero is comparable in hardware (memory size and storage capacity) to the sapphire, so it'd only be a matter of making rosie run in less memory (192 vs 288) and fit in a smaller space (256 vs 512). The processors by Qualcomm on both devices are very similar, the hero's being a revision of dream's and sapphire's processors, and they both share the same arm11 core. Both processors are capable of running at 528mhz, so, really, there's very little difference between both devices. Again, a rogers dream port would be better, but Hero port will still work fine on dream
The blogger here seems to think so. Does this mean we can finally look forward to 2.1 ROMs with video?
What about the UK and the rest of europe will we be getting this update?
If US phones get the official update, that'll mean the drivers will be out there, which is really the last barrier to 2.1. AOSP and ADP versions should be able to go international, then.
cant wait till this happens ...fingers crossed
I hope this is true, would be pretty good news. and then its on to flash, but it's probably not going to happen for the g1s :/. apparently you have to have a armv7 processor like the n1
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I hope this is true, would be pretty good news. and then its on to flash, but it's probably not going to happen for the g1s :/. apparently you have to have a armv7 processor like the n1
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Are you suggesting that Google couldn't release their own software for their own phones?
If this happens it's quite likely Rogers users will get screwed over
AGAIN
Would be nice if he's right for a change!
The "wipe required" part actually sounds interesting.
If his article isn't completely out to lunch (which is a DEFINITE possibility -- he's been known to be very consistently WRONG in the past...), then by the sounds of it, this update will involve REPARTITIONING!!!! Which is the only reason for requiring a "pc based install" vs. an OTA update.
Just a note though.... we actually HAVE THE DRIVERS!!!
From a HERO dump.
The CPU's are virtually identical (for all practical purposes).
The only issue is in certain changes that may be required as a result of RADIO FIRMWARE and/or KERNEL changes.
Nothing that isn't doable
lbcoder said:
Would be nice if he's right for a change!
The "wipe required" part actually sounds interesting.
If his article isn't completely out to lunch (which is a DEFINITE possibility -- he's been known to be very consistently WRONG in the past...), then by the sounds of it, this update will involve REPARTITIONING!!!! Which is the only reason for requiring a "pc based install" vs. an OTA update.
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Agreed. The lack of storage space was one of the reasons I heard tossed around for why the G1 couldn't be upgraded further. Now, if they did away with the space reserved for OTA updates...
lbcoder said:
Just a note though.... we actually HAVE THE DRIVERS!!!
From a HERO dump.
The CPU's are virtually identical (for all practical purposes).
The only issue is in certain changes that may be required as a result of RADIO FIRMWARE and/or KERNEL changes.
Nothing that isn't doable
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Say WHAT now? Is that true? I feel like the technical challenges might be pretty daunting...
Zoltair Wright said:
Agreed. The lack of storage space was one of the reasons I heard tossed around for why the G1 couldn't be upgraded further. Now, if they did away with the space reserved for OTA updates...
Say WHAT now? Is that true? I feel like the technical challenges might be pretty daunting...
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Its true.
I used the ROGERS CANADA hardware/firmware to compare, since they sell (or used to..) a 32A (magic) and a 32B (dream). Note that HERO (all GSM) is a 32A, and tmobile branded magic is a 32B.
A binary comparison between the hardware drivers for rogers 32A and 32B yields ZERO DIFFERENCES... the drivers are IDENTICAL. But that doesn't mean that the drivers are immediately compatible across all devices.... there are differences in the RADIO FIRMWARES between different devices (i.e. HERO and ADP1) that require KERNEL changes in order for the drivers to be compatible.
The good news is that we HAVE all the kernel sources thanks to GPL!!!!
And then, of course, we have our first 2.1 32B ROM thanks to Case_ ... read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640744
--- check the link in that thread and read it, has a part about "porting package for 32B" -- 32B means DREAM.
This is the relevant entry: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5765511&postcount=17
This is fantastic news... hopefully we will have a complete, functioning 2.1 in the near future.
This is all rumors until T-Mobile, HTC, or Google actually state otherwise. However, it is very likely we will be able to rip the drivers out of similar hardware (Hero, Magic) and have them work on the Dream.
Really, all we can do is wait and hope.Until then, don't trust anyone saying "2.1 is coming!!1!".
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However, it is very likely we will be able to rip the drivers out of similar hardware (Hero, Magic) and have them work on the Dream.
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Already have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638666
I am trying to get my wifes TMOUS MyTouch 3G upgraded to a newer ROM with Sense. I feel comfortable with the whole process of rooting and flashing a new ROM but would really appreciate some advice. I know she wants Sense but I want her to have a very reliable and bug free ROM. I am unfamiliar with the android scene as I have an HD2 that I flash about twice weekly to keep up on the latest and greatest and I myself don't mid a few bugs but I want her to be bug free. I am just wondering what ROM's would be good for her and if there are preferably possibly a Desire/ Legend type RM that merger Android 2.1 with Sense 2.0. I am sorry if this is the wrong place to put this request and I have in fact searched and I have found a few but I don't want to risk putting a bad ROM on her phone and scarring her off. Thanks for the advice I know you guys & gals will give me.
25 Views and still no advice?
Why aren't you patient lol. You make yourself seem like a jackass and bring up haters like myself =) 25 doesn't mean that every member that just viewed it knows the answer. I thought that was pretty basic common sense.
I viewed this and I myself don't have an answer either nor will I search for you. I don't know many sense roms for mytouch3g, since most or almost all of them are basically for 32A which require the 6.35 radio. You would probably know that if you did some work. I only know good sense roms using the 6.35 radio, which you can't use. so I can't give any advice here.
I read somewhere about carriers dishing out the sense ui roms? I don't know if that's with tmo but I heard other carriers are getting it
But, isn't there an official ROM released from HTC WITH sense installed? I know I am using it. It was released at the end of January.
http://www.htc.com/europe/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=267&act=sd&cat=all
I know I installed this and it works great. + it's official so it will just not install if its not meant for your phone and it is rather bug free.
I hope this helps.
the htc magic is a 32A board mytouch is 32B
Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
paindoo said:
Head over to HTC Hero forums. They have got official 2.1 with sense UI for hero. Can somebody port the official release for 32A magic? Waiting for magic to happen from any great developer.
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be patient, most probably they're working on it
Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
work started!!!
A lot of people are having trouble with that ROM; they are saying that it is bogging down their phone and making it a "slow POS". Hopefully we can fix that
htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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htc magic for rogers already have official rom ?
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You mean the 2.1 with Sense? Latest rumors says that Rogers will test it/release it in the end of june...or is that rumor dead?
I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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I don`t think so ... It looks too real http://twitter.com/RogersMary/status/14765494149
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Oh, they'll start "testing" it on end of june, sooo ... like ... we have on October or so
I have tested it last night with our device, with most features enabled.
it is faster than legend port. but it is slower than eris port. and...
what surprised me..., it has more bugs than eris port and legend port. both aosp kernel driver and htc's will break something, so I need to do some repairing.
and I am worry about the port jobs in the future. HTC modified more and more basic libs in android layer. maybe replacing libs will become harder and harder.
my biggest interest now is the Dalvik and new webkit in 2.2, but we can't get the sources at current
I have very few time, so I don't know if I should upload my current version, or I should test it more?
it have a bug which make me sick, bluetooth component wants to update database again and again. but this bug is not appeared every time, so a reboot will "fix" it. but I have very bad feeling with it.
and I don't know how to make default APN list too. I am not good at these things. I just put it into /etc as usual, but it didn't work. I have to add my APN manually it seems that this version is for specified mobile operator in Taiwan.
only thing (I have found) which is better than eris port, it uses same graphics as legend.
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Dammit, Rogers just release the **** already!
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rogers cant release it till htc gives it to them at the end of june....
its not rogers its htc we need to release it...
a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest
"a release coming real soon
seems to be fastest"
Can't wait to see if it is worth it
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There were some rumors that some of the Android devices of HTC will not receive the newest update to Android Froyo 2.2. While this is partially true, we’re happy to say that HTC Magic is not included in that “black list”.
As announced by the second largest French mobile operator SFR, the device will receive the desired Froyo soon. Some believe that this will take place even in this month. T-Mobile has also plans to update myTouch 3 G which is basically the same device to Froyo by the end of this year.
Let’s say that the device looks to handle the novelties quite well, considering the fact “of not being that new”. Good job!
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http://www.htcphones.net/htc-magic-to-get-froyo-2-2-update/
so correct me if im wrong... but if the htc magic gets official android 2.2 does that mean the amazing developers here are going to have a field day with it and make it even better and more customizable than the actual creators of it?
I sure hope so would love to have a nice custom rom with 2.2 that works and with tons of bonus stuff pre installed.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but the amazing developers here are having a field day since the froyo source was dropped in to AOSP a few days ago. CM6 should be just around the corner.
i know they are already playing with it, but with a copy from the actually phone i imagine it would be easier to mod and play with since they dont have to port and do all kinds of ridicules things to get it to work on another phone.
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i know they are already playing with it, but with a copy from the actually phone i imagine it would be easier to mod and play with since they dont have to port and do all kinds of ridicules things to get it to work on another phone.
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Remember that the 32B Magic is the ION/ADP2, everything you need to get a fully working ROM is supplied in the AOSP. What you're suggesting is probably more relevant to devices like the Hero. At any rate, we'll probably see CM6 or some other froyo ROM before a shipped one.
ok well you seem to know more than i do so i hope a 2.2 near perfect rom comes out soom. im so excited lol
Yeah me too, Cyan's feed is the only reason I'm checking twitter atm, really looking forward to speed increases