Shout out! - myTouch 3G Slide General

I just traded my Slide for the HD2.
Thanks so much to all the devs that made toying with my Slide a very fun and pleasurable experience.
Also, thank you to the forum members who answered my questions, no matter how n00bish.

I've been thinking of doing this myself. Can you plz give the pros and cons from your experience on both devices?
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Yes please, give an experience of the two. I'm looking at getting an HD2 to mess with later this week but would like a few things known before i commit to it (buying used).

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Yes please, give an experience of the two. I'm looking at getting an HD2 to mess with later this week but would like a few things known before i commit to it (buying used).
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I've had a HD2 with Android on it and I have a unrooted Slide.
HD2 w/ANDROID PROS: 10.1 Flash Support (with Froyo of course).
Larger screen to enjoy Android in oppose to the Slide.
Better camera in opposed to the Slide.
Screen display is so beautiful.
HD2 w/ANDROID CONS: Definitely does'not run as smooth as the Slide.
Screen isn't as sensitive as the Slide.
Robotic voice when you make calls. The only way to get rid of this is to flash a custom Windows rom and radio.
Although the HD2 has a 1ghz processor you'd never know because it force closes occasionally and lags alot..
STOCK MyTOUCH SLIDE PROS: Runs very smooth.
Screen responds well to touch.
The speaker seemed to be louder than the HD2 (maybe it was just my phone).
Every feature works as it should because it was made specifically for the Slide, unlike the HD2.
STOCK MyTOUCH SLIDE CONS: Low screen resolution compared to HD2.
Smaller screen compared to HD2's massive 4.3inch
MY CONCLUSION: Don't trade the Slide for an HD2 unless your a developer or have the patience because the HD2 just doesn't run anywhere near as good as the Stock Slide although it has a midrange 600mhz processor. I mainly miss the large screen on the HD2 and the fact that I did not have to root the HD2 to get Froyo and Flash 10.1 to work, but the Slide makes up for it all since its very user friendly. ENJOY YOUR SLIDE or someone else will!
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legend worth it to skip desire?

asking few questions to legend owner.
between legend and desire, i'm leaning towards legend because of its design.
but snapdragon on desire sounds very tempting...
what do you say legend users? do you experience any lag because of lack of cpu or ram compare to desire?
The desire is more powerful but don't forget that its screen has a higher resolution, in other words it needs more power...
Why I've chosen the legend over the desire?
- First of all the legend has a much better finish than the desire, that looks too "nerd" for me. It looks more like a small computer than a cell phone..
- The legend is very smooth and do not really need more power
-The legend can almost do everything the desire can do but with a better pocket size.
- With a 3,2 screen instead of 3,7 screen, and a worse processor, it think the battery is better.
However, you should take the desire if:
- You really want to watch videos on your device
- You like playing a lot with your device because i think that games are going to require more and more config to run...
Look at the price for both desire & legend, its nearly the same: there is no best phone between them...
=> The legend has one of the best design for a smartphone
=> The desire is the more powerful
Allow me to offer a few pointers. I've got both devices. Desire for myself and the Legend for my wife.
Performance-wise, there's no doubt the Desire edges out the Legend. But the Legend is not 40% slower as the CPU clockspeeds may suggest. You'll encounter the occasional hiccup with the Legend when compared to the Desire, but you probably won't notice it unless you have both devices like I do. I would call this round a draw.
Aesthetically, it's very subjective. When you pull your Legend out, people will be drawn to the aluminum unibody enclosure. When you pull your Desire out, people will be drawn to the large 3.7" screen. I think the Legend looks nicer, but the Desire is in no way "geeky". It looks better in real life than on photos/videos. I'd describe it as more sophisticated looking while the Legend is more sexy.
Surely, you've read/seen reviews of both. See here for my review on the Desire and here for my review on the Legend. I tried to only put down things that were not mentioned or covered extensively by others. And I mentioned a couple of differences that may or may not matter to you.
Personally, I think it comes down to your screen/device size preference.
every time I pull out my legend I always get asked about it. it stands out from the crowd especially being in a country where you cannot buy it in store.
as for lag on the legend, it gets a little bit of lag if you quickly switch between lots of applications but other than that its fine
also if lag is a problem then disabling HTC sense is always an option but then you are limited to 3 home screens
it is a very good looking device tho.
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just thought is ask is any one else's home button feel loose like the actual button is on the far left of the key ?
I think mine might be broken but I don't want to send it back to the UK and it still works ok was just curious
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big help from all of you guys......love the look of legend and i think i will go with legend instead of desire unless htc decides to make a legend looking phone with snapdragon processor
i think you will be very happy with it , especially once it is rooted and we can save apps to the sdcard :
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Everytime I pull out my Legend in public I get a fine for indecent exposure. But that's for a different forum.
I love my Desire both how it looks and how it performs. Just needs a better battery to really make it the best phone period.
I haven't touched the Desire, so I can only write about the Legend.
In my own opinion:
The Legend looks GREAT, ATTRACTIVE & CLEAN design, & feels SOLID. I get so much compliments about the phone, even old folks, who don't care about phones, think the my phone is very nice looking.
However, the sharp edge on top of the earpiece sometimes hurts my ear.
It performs very well & smooth.
I use the phone MAINLY for calls & text messages. & I don't play & care for games on the phone. Therefore, the Legend's SIZE is PERFECT for me.
The phone has GREAT audio quality, which is nice & clear, & has good battery life.
I read somewhere that says because of the Legend's aluminum case, it doesn't get excellent signal. However, the reception has not let me down yet.
I'm also using HTC Touch Diamond 2, & HTC HD. My house has really bad signal & I have NO PROBLEMS with the Legend, whereas the other 2 get drop calls constantly.
It has 4 plastic buttons that feel REALLY CHEAP. You'll be disappointed with these buttons.
It has some other Cons, but you'll get that with the Desire too, so I won't go there.
I think you should also go to the Desire's board & ask what they like & dislike about the Desire & then make your own decision.
For now, I'm keeping the Legend until I can find a phone suitable for my need.
Cheers,
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yeah the only real problem with it are the cheap feeling buttons which is a shame but the rest is of a very high quality
legend or desire
i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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Agreed, traded my nexus for the Legend.
It's a bit slower but nothing that ruins the Android experience.It's till very quick.
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i have used nexus one before i got my legend. speed-wise, nexus one is no doubt faster than hero. but when i used legend, it's almost as smooth as the nexus one. also, when you install a lot of apps or put a lot of widgets in the homescreen, there's a tendency to lag. after using the nexus one for 2 months, i would say i like the legend more compared to nexus one. sorry im comparing legend with nexus one instead of desire. they both have the same specs anyway, well majority.
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nexus one being almost identical to desire, every piece of info helps! thanks
... and something important too: Nexus one is due to be the "first in class" android, so is the most expensive one. Desire is cheaper than Nexus one to avoid confusions in the market. Legend need to be cheaper than Desire due to processor speed. I believe Legend would be more expensive if Nexus and Desire would not be available in the market. So, Legend has a competitive price with an excellent hardware and software configuration.
no doubt you are right. Best device I ever had
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week with legend
I been using Legend just about a week.. first phone ever that don't make any kind of hardware sound.. almost every phone that I had and tested even with HD2.. make those hardware movement noise.. this phone is rock solid.. by the look and design.. it's phone, fit in ur hand perfect.. one of the best sound quality phone that I had.. HTC sense and Android.. sense work great.. since this is my first android phone.. I can't tell much about it..I used my bro's Hero about a week. Legend is much faster.. here in US.. 3G service don't work.. but even with Edge,, it's much faster and smoother internet experience than any other phone that I had or tested.. only thing that I don't like about the hardware is the 4button key.. I wish HTC made this with capacitive touch key like the Nexus one or touch HD..
buy the Legend.. it's cheaper than Desire.. also more phone factor than Desire..
if u need super PDA+ huge phone.. buy the Desire..
LOL.. just buy either one.. u'll like it anyhow..
evank418 said:
asking few questions to legend owner.
between legend and desire, i'm leaning towards legend because of its design.
but snapdragon on desire sounds very tempting...
what do you say legend users? do you experience any lag because of lack of cpu or ram compare to desire?
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I have used google nexus one and legend (I dumped the nexus one in favour of the legend).
i challenge anyone to say there is a difference in speed
the 7227 is a much improved cpu over the hero/touch pro 2/diamond 2 one etc.
its not just the speed.
I think the cpu is a side issue
the real difference between these two is just the screen resolution.
my 2 cents:
1. most android apps just scale up, so actually look worse on 800x480 (no doubt will get better)
2. you can't actually browse at 800x480 on such a small screen, so its benefit is mostly in smoothing
3. 480x320 video will be smoother. very little the human will gain over 800x480 at this size and 320x480 video files will be smaller.
4. 800x480 screeen uses slightly more battery
5. lower resolutions are here to stay, e.g. HTC Tatto, Sony X10 Mini, etc. only have 240x320 !!!
In summary, whilst 800x480 would be theoretically nicer to have, it makes no difference to me at the moment. the biggest thing I wanted was amoled, which I have got.
You will LOVE the Legend. Its a keeper.
I've got the Legend, because my X10 got swiped.
(Risking OT Compared to the X10, the Legend is much smoother.
However, for me, I may consider the Desire strongly, but simply because I am using a Mac and that the WiFi teether on the Desire makes things a snap for me, especially when I am out of the office.
But otherwise, I do agree that the Legend is a keeper... maybe I'll hand it over to the wife, or to one of my kids.
legend looks super awesome in comparison to the staid desire ..
i want to thank everyone on the great informative reply. i just ordered mine at htcperida can't wait to play with this bad boy!! once again, thanks a lot everyone!!!!

Slide or Hd2

Question:
I had the HD2 until my neighbor dropped it in the pool the night before last (yes, I tried all the tricks to dry it out). It's dead.
He's gonna' replace it. So money isn't the issue (tho' the slide would save him about $20). I've had the HD2 since it was released two months ago, and had a g1 before that. So I'm familiar with both phones and OS's.
Question:
Should I get another HD2 or go with the Slide?
I know that specs on the HD2 kick-booty, but I really don't care for the Windows Mobile as the backbone behind Sense. The WM selection of apps/games is really poor and it seems like an OS gasping for life with little support from Microsoft.
If you were me.........?
slideeee!!! got mine yesterday, been a die hard mt3g user since it came out, rooted it and all... until my sd card slot decided to magically not work anymore yesterday, and i had to get a different solution. Loving the slide, think it'll be my favorite for years, and hopefully within the week it gets rooted ^^
I think the HD2 is a superior piece of hardware all around. I do not like WinMo and will not use a WinMo phone. I was hoping someone would be able to run the HD2 with root and Android but that seems quite a way off. As for the Slide (Espresso) phone; I am returning the 2 I've purchased because they are collecting dust under the screen. Man am I upset about it because I really liked the performance and setup of the phone. I would wait to check out a Samsung Galaxy S that will run Android but I'm extremely skeptical of Samsung's products and support for their devices. Looks like I will be using my rooted G1 for some time to come. I'm actually considering leaving Tmo due to the superior HTC devices available on other carriers. Honestly I say save your money and wait for a proper HTC Android device to be released. I have spoken to several people who own the Slides and the dust issue is happening to them as well.
The slide hands down. My wife had the hd2 for about a week and took it back. She didn't like the battery life, keyboard cause it would miss type a lot even after calibration. And it might be me but I have heard all those 4.3 screen phones have had poor battery life. If u loved ur g1then u will love the slide. I get around 12hrs of use out of it a day and I'm a heavy user I'm always online. If anything buy a slide try it for a few days and see if u like.
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i had the hd2
battery SUCKS
i have the slide
i like it better haha
slide ftw?
Slide
I had the HD2 as well. I wanted to love it, I really did, but coming from a rooted G1, it just didn't work as well. WinMo was terrible, but the quality of the HD2 hardware was great. If it had another OS on it, it could've been a great phone. I returned it a few days later. I recently bought the slide and I absolutely love it. It's a great, slick phone, and I love the keyboard. It doesn't hurt that it's ridiculously fast and also has some graphics muscle as well
Slide and HD2 are 2 very different beasts. First thing you have to think of is what APPs you plan to run on it. Sorry to point it out but HD2 uses WinMo and the Slide (I'm sure you know by now) is Linux based. I would suggest look at the forums or do some research. Check the Apps section as to what would benefit you and what wouldn't. I use the HD2 for work due to applications I use that isn't supported by ANDROID yet. And then there's WinMo 6 that is fading away. But that's what XDA is for D), hats off to the CHEFS and DEVS. They are both wonderful phones except for some quality control issues that has been brought up lately. Don't worry almost all phones has this. Also don't go purchasing the HD2 again thinking that Linux would be running on it pretty soon. Reality is it might take a long time for this to happen. Use the Touch Pro 2 as an example, they are able to run Linux on it but not the complete functionality of the phone is there yet. Just use your BUYER's REMORSE period wisely.
Good Luck in your endeavor.
i had a mytouch 3g, then decided to get and hd2 because of the hardware. i tried so hard to love it, but i couldnt. so i recently switched to the slide and havent looked back. honestly the hd2 might have the hardware advantage but if you cant use it for anything other than basic phone uses, its pointless. the slide does everything my hd2 did and more minus the large screen.
If you want apps = mt3gs
no apps = hd2
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If you want apps = mt3gs
no apps = hd2
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I beg to differ, there are still apps for the HD2 or I should say WinMo. Just google it.
As of the moment, phone systems I work with don't even have apps for android and yet have them for WinMo (softphones). It all depends on what apps you are looking for. For me WinMo is more for business oriented applications.
SLIDE SLIDE SLIDE !!!
I bought an HD2 for my girl, she hated it...
I played with it for 2 days and hated it.
Traded it for a Nexus one and bought my girl a slide.
Lets just say, It was a great night for the BOTH of us
My dad just returned his HD2 within the grace period for the slide. The phone lived on the charger. Ive posted this here somewhere before about the HD2 but yea, he was that type that would have BT WiFi and GPS all enabled on his G1 and it would still last him the entire day. He doesnt text and doesnt use the internet on it much, just talk yet the HD2 needed a recharge at least once a day. The UI was also crazy for him to learn, and for some reason the on screen keyboard sucked, like the one on the slide is easier to way easier to use. Dont know if its because the screen was so wide that to type with one hand you had to stretch and reach or what
Having worked for T-Mobile I can tell you that people with the Slide are FAR more happier with it than those who get the HD2. About half of the HD2s that are sold have issues and end up being returned. The Slide is a damn good device and better all around. I know there are some that rattle on all day about hardware, but what good is it if you have to keep cleaning out memory, charging, and pulling out the battery cause it froze up? The Slide works, hardware or not.
I have both
I have both the HD2 and the Slide. I am currently on my 3rd HD2 ... 1 Warranty and 1 Insurance replacement. (cracked camera lense).
I wanted the HD2 for the Screen, and the Winmo integration with Windows, I felt it would be easier for me to master as my first smart phone. What I hate about Winmo is the lack of apps. Setting up Exchange Active sync is alot more buggy than I thought. My experience with the HD2 and the link to the TMO network is far from being desireable. HD2 camera is a SOLID performer. Everything else about the phone I love. So while I was waiting for the insurance replacement I bought a slide.
Mytouch slide - nice phone, easy to use, love the Qwerty Keyboard, but it also has Swype and touch keyboard as well. Love the App choices I have. Sync'd better with my Exchange server the 1st time than the HD2 did on any of the subsequent resets I had to do. Screen is small. If you forget to lock the screen, you always pressing something you didnt intend on. I like the Hd2 touch screen better. Camera is sketchy at best for a 5MP ... in fact I would say it has the worst 5MP camera on a phone I have owned. (Moto ZN5 was the other one I owned).
If I had to choose ... I would switch to sprint and get an EVO
Lol seriously like a lot of things about both, but for now Droid wins.
Get The Slide!!!
I have the HD2 and hate it
i had a G1 and iPhone before.
Slide hands down!
decision made...thanks everyone
SWell....I have owned the Slide for about a week now. I did NOT make a mistake. It's soooo much better, we ended up selling my boyfriends HD2 and now both have the slide. Sense on the HD2 helped, but it just still felt like WMobile trying too hard. I miss the large screen a little, but that's it. No buyers regrets.
Thanks everyone!
Coming from a guy who went from the Wing - > mytouch -> mytouch slide
i thought windows mobile was amazing till i touched a android phone, the only reason i didnt like my original mytouch was because it lagged to much, but with the slide, its alot faster than i expected and so far has been great.

Is anyone considering the Mytouch HD?

I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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Heck naw. I need my keyboard and stock android.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
kylez64 said:
I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
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The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Exactly...
sino8r said:
The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
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No it does not have the same guts as the G2. It features the 1Ghz MSM8255 chip which is substantially faster than the G2's MSM7230. Its not the same chip overclocked to 1Ghz; its an entirely different chip. Its the same one found in the Desire HD.
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I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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heck no. having played with my wife's MT Slide, im not impressed with the plasticy feel of the phone or the terrible sense UI. the only thing this new mytouch has going for it is a bigger screen. the front camera is useless unless you know others with a front camera (i dont).
I personally, am going to check out the new mytouch. When reviewed by engadget, the build quality was said to be very solid, with the same metal accents the g2 has. The front facing camera would be great for chatting with my daughter in georgia, I rarely use the keyboard on my g2(I was using my nexus one previously), and as soon as it's rooted I'll be switching to vanilla android with launcherpro anyways.
So what's the big deal? I don't buy a device for what it does, but rather for what it CAN DO.
Had I known about the new mytouch sooner, I would have waited. Now my 14 days are up and I'll have to sell/trade my g2.
As a side note: if anyone is going to be buying the g2 as new service or as an upgrade, get in touch with me. Maybe we can work something out where you get the new mytouch instead and I give you my flawless g2 and pay the difference.
Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
I will be getting one to go along with my G2. I've actually held the new MyTouch and it is not plastic or cheaply built. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how nice it was, I just wish there was no Genius button as well.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Haha...funny u should mention cars. I'm actually a builder and a tuner..lol. so I know exactly what u mean
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If the MyTouch is the North American version of the HD, I would suspect the G2 would be an overall better performer. Here is my reasoning, take it how you will:
The 1ghz scorpion that the Desire HD uses has a less powerful GPU than the 800 mhz processor the G2 and Desire Z use. Additionally, the g2 has a larger battery than the Desire HD despite the HD's larger screen ( 1,300mAh battery on G2 vsthe Desire HD features a 1230mAh ) which could suggest the need for more power under the hood despite lower clock speed.
Many have suggested that the 800mghz is deliberately underlocked and the fact that there is now an OC that doesnt require whole new kernel would suggest that this is true.
My personal take: going on pure processing specs alone (and assuming the MyTouch HD/4g is the same as the Desire HD under the hood) then the g2 is the clear winner.
Going on product design, it really depends on whether you want an FFC or a hardware keyboard.
Going on aesthetics i think the g2 wins - even if the MyTouch build quality is high, it still has a toylike look.
I suspect at the end of the day, out of the box the g2 runs faster w/ a better battery life given stock android, faster gpu, and smaller screen. It remains to be seen what root will do to these two devices and how the current g2 OC affects battery life.
I also suspect that if the g2 and mytouch ere to get gingerbread (unconfirmed), it would come slightly faster to the g2 OTA given that sense would not have to be ported.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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The mytouch4g isn't plastic.
No
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I still have 6 days left and I'm loving the G2 so far that I don't think it'd be worth it to get the MT HD. A lot of my friends have the iPhone 4 and they rarely use the FFC, and I doubt I would too. And coming from a iPhone 3G I'm loving the physical keyboard.
I miss android, the way it handles everything, still remember when one user wrote reboot and we found root back in the G1 days.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
ericc191 said:
Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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lol
HTC builds their devices to the specs of their customers (mainly carriers), if their customers don't want to dig deep in their pockets for HTC to build the proper drivers, HTC isn't going to waste resources on something their customers has not asked for.

Moving on [dying development]

This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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I have seen them both and I have to say the sensation is one of the best phones I have ever seen. It has a beautiful design and a really clear camera with 1080p HD camera. If you ask me, id go with the sensation. But that's only my opinion, in the end its all down to personal perspective. Whether you like a slide out keyboard or you like having a large screen. It all depends what you like.
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This would fall under "General" or "Q&A" but we all know that no one clicks on those tabs anymore, in addition this has a little to do with development. Seeing that the mt3gs is ancient in smartphone years and that our major developers have moved on, I figured we could start a comparison thread. Before I start I would like to thank all the teams that worked hard for all of us to better enjoy the "slide"; Team Cyanogen, Arrayray, CR, CM, Guitarist, Highly Medicated so on and so on. (if I missed anyone its not personal your work is also appreciated.) With that being said its time to discuss what's next..
I myself am almost due for an upgrade and would like the communities opinion on where to go next. Right now I have two options MyTouch 4G Slide versus HTC Sensation. So far the advantage of mt4gs is the awesome camera software and hardware, but lacks in the screen section which is not qHD. I'm open to discussion and opinions, also if there is any other phone you'd like to mention please do so.
It would be nice to get a mt4gs since a lot of our devs went that route and I'd be able to keep following them but I seen some nice development in the Sensation community as well. Any opinions?
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Agreed, on both posts, I do have a long time before I can upgrade (got this as a gift) but i figure I will jus pay cash for one from like amazon.com or something! and The Sensation is Absolutely hands down the best Android Phone to date! HOWEVER, while I am still a slide user, i will develop for it proudly!
Just got a 4g slide today and am liking it the way it is so far. I HATED sense on my 3g slide but Sense 3.0 is much better IMO. Camera is awesome as well. I need the hard keyboard so my choice was easy.
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Thank you guys for your opinions and input. I went and demo'd both phones today and I found something interesting.. the HTC Sensation is shipped with 2.3.3 while the mytouch 4G slide ships with 2.3.4. When I checked for an update on the sensation nothing showed up. Im sure they'll have the update soon
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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The update for the sensation is being pushed out as we speak lol
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Nice!
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Thx for the mention, but i feel like all i did was get people's toes wet concerning gingerbread with sense. Really wish i had time to do more for everyone. Thankfully team medicated worked hard to bring a working gingerbread rom for us.
As far as a new phone, its almost scary to buy a new phone knowing something better will be out in 6 months or so and we're stuck with that phone for another 18 months. Personally, i've looked so many times at other phones that i think the store reps know my face by now lol. I just cant bring myself to spend hundreds of dollars to get with the hottest handset. Its tough, but waiting till im due for a full discount on a new handset. Im really intreaged to see what google's next handset is going to be. It should be out by mid 2012. I just hope its better than the nexus s. Lets face it, nexus one blew us away, but the nexus s was a bit of a let down. A beautiful handset, i just expect a google phone to be the best out there.
Personally, at the start, i really hated the Slide and was getting disappointed that i even bought it. It's only thanks to developers here that had the SalsaSlide made possible that i've actually started enjoying using it.
As for a new phone, i don't run after technology, i've learned that it's a losing race and if my phone keeps working, then i see no reason of upgrading it just for saying i have the latest. What can i say, i'm not an apple fanatic that will rush to spend hundreds just to get the exact same phone in white
Anyway, if i'll be fully honest with you guys, once they get Android on the Fuze as native OS. I'd probably be switching to it, so instead of upgrading i'd be downgrading
Guitarist you deserve to be credited, in my opinion you introduced gingersense to the slide which gave devs the jumpstart to want to incorporate sense back into roms. Thanx again. Undoubtedly there will always be another smarter phone that's just how it goes. I also understand Sefy also, it is not only money draining to keep up with the latest handset but it is a bit cliche for that matter. (my secondary is still an iPhone 3gs, never upgrading my Apple handset)
Speaking of phones dropping in 2012, I stumbled upon an article earlier that's a game changer for Google. Google has agreed to buy Motorola mobility for 12.5 billion. Here's the article
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110815-708280.html
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I've been using a G2x since June. I do miss the slide's community though. Not that it should really affect what phone you get.
I decided that now that I have a phone with not just one, but two 1ghz cores I can rest, haha. I hate looking at the G2x forums though, at least general anyways. It's full of trolls and rudeness, lol.
I kind of wish I had stuck it out a little longer and got the mt4gs and feel like I upgraded rather than just went to a new phone completely.
It IS fast though. I got lucky enough to not get one of the terrible ones.
Wow I felt like this a while ago and I am torn about getting a new phone when there are a lot of phones out there and its hard to choose what to get next. Mt4gs looks like a great phone and might jump ship to it.
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The developing community for the Slide slowed down a long time ago. I stopped really even checking back, haven't logged in for ages. I'm due for an upgrade on September 16th, and I'm DEFINITELY going for the HTC Sensation. The screen is bigger, super high resolution, 1080p video shooting, and better battery life. I liked having a physical keyboard with my Slide, but it is cumbersome as it makes the phone significantly thicker and heavier. On an MDPI device I would go for the hard keyboard, but on HDPI, ESPECIALLY qHD 4.3" screens, I have no problem typing on the screen's keyboard. It's worth the thinner and lighter phone. Plus, on the Sensation, almost the entire front of the phone is screen space. The mts4g seems to have a thick frame around the screen, especially on the top of it, which I don't like. Yeah, sure, the camera features of the mts4g are certainly attractive, but at least for me, since my Slide camera has been broken ever since I got the phone and I was never that big of a camera user to begin with, the Sensation is a MUCH better bet. Both phones are the same price.
I had the mt3gs since It's release, after much thought and consideration, I decided that like this forum it was dead, so I upgraded with the myTouch 4G Slide. I love it, the keyboard, the screen, the look and feel. It's just like I ran my mt3gs through an update machine and the MT4GS was the result. Although it doesn't have the giant 4.3 inch touch screen and while it is not a not a super light phone, I have had a great experience so far.
The camera, let's start there, fast, clear, macro settings better than any phone I've seen so far, don't believe me, my Google+ profile has a pic of a mosquito I took with no zoom. (Link on profile) the sweep shot, the HDR multi shot that layers different white balance shots up to get great definition and color in bright light, (backlit pics as well). The action shot and shutter (as long as the camera app is already open) is just as fast as they claim, but if not held very still can be just slightly blurred, but better still than most mid grade digital cameras on the market. The only thing keeping this camera from being an actual replacement it the lack of an optical zoom. Oh and night shots....they are pretty nice as well.
The screen, 3.7" inches, Super LCD, is crisp and clear, with resolution that has honestly impressed me. The best part? You have a screen that's big enough to enjoy watching videos on and you don't feel like your gonna break your thumbs trying to reach the screen's extremities. Although I do wish it was just a little larger when gaming.
The processor, a 1.2GHz Dual Core, Snapdragon, is a beautiful change from the 600mhz of the mt3gs, finally games and apps that none of us could enjoy like Gun Bros, Need for Speed, Dungeon Defenders, and Google Earth are smooth and flowing. Even Quadrant standard's video benchmarks are now enjoyable to watch.
The keyboard, which is the reason anyone wants the phone is quite different from it's predecessor's or any others I've seen or used. The buttons are almost flat and press very easily, almost too easily at first but after about a week of using it, it's almost a pleasure to use, just be careful of the back button when typing the letter 'M', I have lost several Facebook posts, even part of this post so far.
Sense 3.0 is beautiful but it and it's components eat up 3GB of the MT4GS 4GB of on-board storage and around 40% of its 768MB of RAM. And T-Mobile's removal of the 7 screen option and lockscreen shortcuts make it slightly frustrating.
Kid Zone is also a big annoyance, while it is a neat alternative lockscreen geared toward kids is built into sense and not exactly what I would make for a child.
The '4G' aspect is not quite all its claimed to be, in Pittsburgh averaging 3-4 Mbps, but is quite a bit more reliable than I would have thought. The GPS is fast to lock, till rooted it seems, and compass and multiple rotation sensors make it crazy accurate and very sensitive. This makes it great for gaming, almost as good as a gyroscope, if not slightly better in some aspects. And the Bluetooth 3.0 makes file pushes fast and simple. And the usb transfers at around 4MB/s making video upload easy.
The over all feel of the phone is awkward at first being just slightly thicker than the HTC glacier(MT4G) yet not as thick and stocky as the mt3gs, it has grown on me more everyday, and I am very happy I made this choice.
My over all rating of this phone would be a 4.5 out of 5, it is a beautiful piece of technology, and should be relevant for a while to come.
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Neanderthal, thanx for that beautiful review and sharing your personal experience with the mt4gs. I also must admit after I demo'd the handset I've been wanting it more and more.
Speaking of other phones, does anyone know if the Nokia N9 will work on tmobile? It's a sick piece of equipment and IS the best camera for smart phone. The UI is effin dope and from specs and reviews this phone is killer. Any help will be appreciated .. thanx again for all the input. If there are any other phones out there please post. (worthy of posting)
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You could always wait it out for the samsung hercules, nexus prime and htc ruby to show up. As far as i know they should all be hitting the market fairly soon. Just a suggestion
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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With the release of sense 3.0 it wouldn't surprise me if phones with sense got updates sooner. Either way thanks your input. Let us know how that G2X goes for you
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I just replaced my wifes MTS (Warranty) with a MTS in red, she loves the phone with CM7 on it and she likes the keyboard all in total I have replaced the 2 mytouch slides 5 times through t-mobile due to hardware failure (Camera, Front buttons, and keyboard issues)
I however just ordered a G2x and it should be here today, I'm not going anywhere though, I have always liked the MTS though it has not been a reliable phone CM7 Makes it so much better. One of the reasons I got a G2x is it has Vanilla android so I will get updates faster (More likely than phones with Sense)
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As a fellow G2x member, I say welcome! However to the updates, I'd have to say... Nope. We don't quite have Vanilla android... We waited a few months for Gingerbread and when we got it, it was "half-baked" and still not exactly Vanilla.
But the phone is a beast. Do enjoy it, cause I know I do.
And there's always rooting and roms.

Goodbye G2, you've been a good phone

Well, I finally went and bought a new phone (sensation). My G2 has been great, I really like it and think it's probably one of the most under-rated phones out there. Rooted and OC'd it's plenty fast for daily use and once rooted it's got a ton of support. I'm not in any way trying to convince anybody to upgrade and ditch their G2, but here are a few differences I've noticed so far (only had it a day):
1. screen size - bigger is definitely nice. I have big fingers and trying to use the G2's virtual keyboard was difficult for me, even with swype. The difference in screen width for the sensation makes it a bit easier.
2. hinge (or no hinge) - it's nice not having to worry about the phone flipping open. I've had my g2 for a year and the hinge has loosened up a good deal, not just open/close motion but it's started to get wobbly side to side as well.
3. speed - even OC'd at 1.4 using either a cm7 rom or sense 2.1 rom my g2 still is only equal to my sensation (currently stock). Once I root and oc the sensation it'll be even faster (I'm assuming).
4. picture quality - here's one thing that surprised me. As far as resolution goes the sensation is better, but for color the g2 actually has it beat. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter on the g2. Not sure if thats a device thing or if its just my 2 individual samples.
Anyway, I thank you all here very much, I never would have been able to root my g2 without this forum. I'm keeping the G and plan on updating it to ICS once it gets developed, looking forward to it
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Well, I finally went and bought a new phone (sensation). My G2 has been great, I really like it and think it's probably one of the most under-rated phones out there. Rooted and OC'd it's plenty fast for daily use and once rooted it's got a ton of support. I'm not in any way trying to convince anybody to upgrade and ditch their G2, but here are a few differences I've noticed so far (only had it a day):
1. screen size - bigger is definitely nice. I have big fingers and trying to use the G2's virtual keyboard was difficult for me, even with swype. The difference in screen width for the sensation makes it a bit easier.
2. hinge (or no hinge) - it's nice not having to worry about the phone flipping open. I've had my g2 for a year and the hinge has loosened up a good deal, not just open/close motion but it's started to get wobbly side to side as well.
3. speed - even OC'd at 1.4 using either a cm7 rom or sense 2.1 rom my g2 still is only equal to my sensation (currently stock). Once I root and oc the sensation it'll be even faster (I'm assuming).
4. picture quality - here's one thing that surprised me. As far as resolution goes the sensation is better, but for color the g2 actually has it beat. Blacks are blacker and whites are whiter on the g2. Not sure if thats a device thing or if its just my 2 individual samples.
Anyway, I thank you all here very much, I never would have been able to root my g2 without this forum. I'm keeping the G and plan on updating it to ICS once it gets developed, looking forward to it
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CONGRATS on your new sensation!
i'm commenting about number 4... the picture quality... its all about screen density, because the sensation's screen is bigger, screen density is smaller... so pixels will be larger, and will have more space, but they are relatively out numbered...
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CONGRATS on your new sensation!
i'm commenting about number 4... the picture quality... its all about screen density, because the sensation's screen is bigger, screen density is smaller... so pixels will be larger, and will have more space, but they are relatively out numbered...
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You forget that the Sensation also has a higher resolution screen, not just bigger..
Since you're moving your G2 over to backup duty, would you consider doing a spring swap? That might help. I know that after over 6 months the spring linked in Jchap's guide has held up admirably for me.
The Sensation is an excellent phone. Were I to get a near current candybar that or the Amaze 4g would be the ones I'd have a tough time mulling over.
I know that the day I retire my G2 to an mp3 and web browsing device will be a sad day. But then, putting a device out to pasture is usually well earned. Electronics that survive our daily abuse for years and still continues to function deserves respect and thanks.
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You forget that the Sensation also has a higher resolution screen, not just bigger..
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actually, the "stretched" the screen, but didn't quite give it a good res... res is higher than dz, but not they could make it even higher, and still fit the cell...
I find this phone difficult to get rid of, at least for me. Today's phones have yet to surpass the G2 as a worthy upgrade but nonethless we all have to upgrade sooner or later. Glad you found yourself a phone to keep for months time.
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I find this phone difficult to get rid of, at least for me. Today's phones have yet to surpass the G2 as a worthy upgrade but nonethless we all have to upgrade sooner or later.
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I think I have to agree with you on that. I swap handsets quite often and this is one of the longest I've held onto one. The battery is tollerable. The keyboard great and it can handle high clock speeds with the latest rom tech.
Good luck with the sensation.
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I will also be moving over to the Sensation forum in a weeks time... :-(
I've enjoyed this phone and still do, but I feel as though the time has come for a change... The hw keyboard will be missed and so will the dev-forum of the G2/DZ community... I could not have wished for a better place to learn the do's and dont's about rooting, flashing and buffing up my phone...
So a big 'thank you' to everyone out there for helping me to see that my phone is not simply a phone!
Cheers!

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