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Hi there, im thinking about the issue that you cant use a background for all tabs in TF3D, so i am trying to find a solution for that.
We need to find out where in TF3D the XML definition of background tiling is, so we could deactivate that, and replace the manila background tile with a normal wallpaper.
What do you think?
Rotkaeqpchen said:
Hi there, im thinking about the issue that you cant use a background for all tabs in TF3D, so i am trying to find a solution for that.
We need to find out where in TF3D the XML definition of background tiling is, so we could deactivate that, and replace the manila background tile with a normal wallpaper.
What do you think?
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That would be great, one of the most annoying things of TF3D is the background only works on the Today screen. I guess another option would be to find the graphic file within the manilla files that contains the default one. I have seen a couple themes where they have changed that default image, I think it was the Orange one.
added to thread subscriptions, maybe we can do this and it will be so much better!
Thanks, look at the Vodafone theme for example, there is a blank white background. Can we customize the original files like this just with a wallpaper?
I found out that there is a 2bd5bb26_manila (Background image only on O2 theme) in the o2 theme.
When we could use this manila file for other themes too, we would have solved the theme problem!
there's one thing i don't really understand here.
in the o2 default blue theme, the gradient background (for all the tabs) is saved as an image of the width of 1 pixel. i tried to substitute it with another, wider image, but it didn't work.
in the htc black theme, on the other hand, there's no direct image for the background, instead, only the tiles are coded somewhere as image files.
how does it work then, i mean how does manila know how the background is encoded, whether it's a 1px-wide image that needs to be stretched or a tile that fits onto the background "floor" or whatever else on other themes?
if we could find the place where it's encoded what (and how) manila uses for the background, then i guess we could play with it a little more
This is what i have found about the background question in TF3D...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2558844&postcount=180
I haven't had any more time on it .. but I think we have to wait until we can change the mania/GLES files...
I hope this can be done
after the install, it didnt work....fine, i'll revert back to normal
now it reverted back to TF3D with the generic TF backgrounds on all tabs except the home screen which has the ROMeOS2 background (which i want on all) and the clock is the white flip clock instead of teh black ROMeOS2 clock
anyone have any tips on how to correct this? i've tried browing through the diamond tweak and TF3d config tool and cant find anything
whitesox311 said:
after the install, it didnt work....fine, i'll revert back to normal
now it reverted back to TF3D with the generic TF backgrounds on all tabs except the home screen which has the ROMeOS2 background (which i want on all) and the clock is the white flip clock instead of teh black ROMeOS2 clock
anyone have any tips on how to correct this? i've tried browing through the diamond tweak and TF3d config tool and cant find anything
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First HD manila is pretty much the same as touchflo but with an extra stock tab. Second in order to get HD manila working you have to install the HD boot loader, to get it working without this you have to "tab here to launch touchflo" then goto settings and open the keyboard, wait till manila launches (keep in mind after every soft reset these instructions are required unless you install the boot loader)
Finally background on all tabs with different home tab is installed,.
Hey!
I just flashed to ROM 1.48 after deinstallation of the ServicePack 1 caused some trouble (f.e. my default Opera browser became dysfunctional regardless of various softresets). I unistalled it because word is that it was the cause for some minore graphics errors in Opera (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595317).
I don't know if the service pack (which I'm skipping now) had to do something with it, but now unlike before I have bland dark grey backgrounds on all tabs except the home tab. I use one of the standard weather wallpapers. Switching wallpapers and softresetting didn't bring a change.
How can I make the wallpaper be present in all tabs?
Hello. Long time lurker, first time poster.
So, I want to have my wallpaper of choice on only my home screen, and have the weather animated as well. I'm running Verizon's official 6.5 upgrade with, as I understand it, Sense 2.1 (I haven't been able to confirm that the way I could on the old ROM, though).
I made a cab of the wallpaper with the nearest I could find to the proper settings, which was TouchFLO v2.1 - No Compression - Home Tab. HDWall tells me that I need Co0kieMonster's Patch. I found it here: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529730, though it definitely seems to be meant for the Blackstone, and not my Rhodium. Not able to find anything better, and not knowing my specific version of Sense, I tried a number of his cab's, starting with the Verizon specific one, and then running through all of his 2.1 variants. At the best, there was no noticeable change on my phone. At worst, the clock would only display white boxes with bits of black in them (and wouldn't flip up to show the text version), the Call History became 0 Missed Calls and my calendar appointments wouldn't show up on the home screen. Trying different settings for home screen only in HDWall either resulted in no change to my wallpaper, or the icon bar at the top being weirdly skinned or turning green (which makes sense, since I wasn't using the correct settings). HDWall works fine creating a wallpaper for all my tabs, but I don't want that.
So then, does anyone have a solution to suggest? I can't imagine I'm the first one to have tried to do this with this particular configuration. Any advice and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I believe this is what you are looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511&highlight=hdwall
This has the patch included already.
If you want to change the wallpaper of the home screen without affecting other tabs then go to settings on TF3D and change the home wallpaper. Then install this cab, soft reset, and the animated weather will be on top of any custom wallpaper...
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If you want to change the wallpaper of the home screen without affecting other tabs then go to settings on TF3D and change the home wallpaper. Then install this cab, soft reset, and the animated weather will be on top of any custom wallpaper...
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i forgot to add the cab... here you...
dj_doeboy said:
If you want to change the wallpaper of the home screen without affecting other tabs then go to settings on TF3D and change the home wallpaper. Then install this cab, soft reset, and the animated weather will be on top of any custom wallpaper...
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Gah! That was sooooo easy! It was just a cab! I'd put probably three hours into getting this to work, and there was a cab for it. Thank you so much!!
So now I have another question:
When I installed the cab, the top curtain on my home screen disappeared. I was thrilled about this, because I was going to get rid of it next anyway. As a result, though, the clock shifted upwards to fill the space (around 1/4"), but the weather animations didn't. In most cases this doesn't mean anything. However, when it's sunny and there's the lens flare, it comes from just below the sun instead of inside it. When icicles form on the clock, they're happening a quarter of an inch below the top edge of the clock, rather than on the top edge.
These are minor issues, but I was wondering if anyone knows of a fix. Thanks in advance...
I already have weather animation on mine. I didn't add anything. Is this stock T-Mobile 6.5/2.1?
Mine's the stock Verizon 6.5/2.1. My issue isn't that I don't have the weather animations (I do, both with the default wallpaper and, thanks to the above cab, with custom wallpapers as well), but that the clock on the homepage isn't where the phone thinks it should be, which results in the weather animations being misplaced a bit.
WVGA cab for custom wallpaper and animated weather:
forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=55674&d=1263503329
Thanks, dj_doeboy!!!
does this work on sprints 6.1
AmelFl said:
does this work on sprints 6.1
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I don't think it will, no. The weather clock on the homescreen is limited to WinMo 6.5 and Sense UI, as far as I know, and this cab is for that.
Once your official ROM upgrade hits though, you should be able to use it, so maybe save it until then. It shouldn't be more than a month and a half before it's released.
Hi all, I thought I'd share a mini breakthrough I had with Animated Weather performance on the Sense 2.5 home screen on the TP2. The animation is 100% fast and smooth if you DON'T activate any wallpaper.
I'm using the stock WM 6.5 South East Asia ROM with the stock Manilla version 2.5.20121225.0. I was recently forced to reload my TP2 after a bad application install required a hard reset. I immediately noticed how much faster the weather animation was after the hard reset. It was 100% fast and smooth. So I only made incremental changes until I determined what the cause of the slowness was.
As soon as I enabled ANY of the weather wallpapers, the performance of the animated weather dropped to around 70%. The problem is that there's no way to remove the wallpaper after you've selected one - you can only change it to a different wallaper - so I had to do a hard reset again to restore the animated weather performance to 100%.
Does anyone know if there is a way of removing the wallpaper using a registry edit or a file system edit?
I know that Max Manilla has a 'remove wallpaper' feature in it, but I've found that the weather animation is still only around 70% with Max Manilla installed.
Have you also tried to slide up on the homepage, to display the 9 quicklaunch buttons? That also gives a fast, and smooth weather animation, even with a wallpaper.
The wallpaper itself is not the issue, it's the elements that are on the homepage that cause the problem (clock, calendar).
I think you can remove the wallpaper in the registry. It should be in [HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila].
Yes I think you're right, but I also believe that the wallpaper is like an additional element that the animation struggles with. If I have a wallpaper enabled then I can only have another 1-2 elements displayed before the animation suffers. With no wallpaper I can have 1. the clock (with the weather insert) 2. the calender and 3. the quick links, all displayed, and still have excellent animation performance.
I'll have a look at that registry key after work tonight and see if I can find the setting to disable the wallpaper.
I'd probably say those "elements" like the clock and short cuts and email and missed call notifactions are probably more important to ...... everyone.... then having clouds float across their screen
Aaron McCarthy said:
I'd probably say those "elements" like the clock and short cuts and email and missed call notifactions are probably more important to ...... everyone.... then having clouds float across their screen
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What I'm saying is, you can have all the elements displayed AND the weather animation nice and smooth, as long as you don't enable a wallpaper. I for one, happen to like the animation
ridolfo said:
I think you can remove the wallpaper in the registry. It should be in [HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila].
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Thanks for the tip. I found out that if you've enabled a wallpaper and now you want to disable it you just delete these 2 entries from the registry:
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\CachedBackgroundPath
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeBackgroundPath
Neither of them exist prior to enabling a wallpaper
So, is it smoother once you delete these keys ?
Alcibiade said:
So, is it smoother once you delete these keys ?
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It will be smoother but you will lose your wallpaper
Another way to improve animation performance is to minimize the number of things appearing on the home screen. I recommend using Cookie's home tab to remove the quicklinks
That way you can keep your wallpaper, have smooth weather animation, and still have access to quicklinks by swiping up
(Actually the clock involves a lot more lua scripts so removing the clock would be more effective...but I don't think anyone would do that )
ctbear said:
It will be smoother but you will lose your wallpaper
Another way to improve animation performance is to minimize the number of things appearing on the home screen. I recommend using Cookie's home tab to remove the quicklinks
That way you can keep your wallpaper, have smooth weather animation, and still have access to quicklinks by swiping up
(Actually the clock involves a lot more lua scripts so removing the clock would be more effective...but I don't think anyone would do that )
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I have a better idea... removing everything from the main screen. This way it will be very very fast.
Come on let's be serious !!! If you remove the quicklinks and a few other stuff you'd better with Sense 2.1
If removing the wallpaper makes an actual difference it's worth it (I like having a black or dark one anyway...). Btw Valkyrie ROMs are quite smooth even with the wallpaper on (Just wanna see if I can get it even faster)
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So, is it smoother once you delete these keys ?
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It's definitely smoother after you delete these keys. Even if you've selected a black wallpaper, deleting these keys will still help because it actually removes the wallpaper altogether, so there's one less thing the animation has to contend with.
I can't say if this is a good idea for those of you who have Cookies Home Tab or Max Manila installed. It works great for me though, on a stock ROM running Sense 2.5. Back up the Manila registry key first if you're not sure, so it can be easily restored. It seems there's no need to disable Touch Flo while making these changes - they can be made on the fly while touch flo is still running.
I tried this (deleting the two registry entries) on the stock Sprint 6.5 ROM - works great! Noticable improvement on the home page. Thank you!
steve4bass said:
What I'm saying is, you can have all the elements displayed AND the weather animation nice and smooth, as long as you don't enable a wallpaper. I for one, happen to like the animation
Thanks for the tip. I found out that if you've enabled a wallpaper and now you want to disable it you just delete these 2 entries from the registry:
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\CachedBackgroundPath
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeBackgroundPath
Neither of them exist prior to enabling a wallpaper[/How do I get in to the registry?]
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Alcibiade said:
I have a better idea... removing everything from the main screen. This way it will be very very fast.
Come on let's be serious !!! If you remove the quicklinks and a few other stuff you'd better with Sense 2.1
If removing the wallpaper makes an actual difference it's worth it (I like having a black or dark one anyway...). Btw Valkyrie ROMs are quite smooth even with the wallpaper on (Just wanna see if I can get it even faster)
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come on dude...it's not like you will lose the quicklinks altogether...all you're compromising is an addition swipe
but anyways I myself prefer no weather animation, it's all up to the user
I myself prefer no weather animation, it's all up to the user
Man, same here.
It kinda irritated me in the first place having redundant information (to the weather tab) making Home tab elements harder to read, but then when I realized the effect it had on performance, it was GONE-dee.
billy-jean said:
How do I get in to the registry?
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Resco Explorer 2010 or PHM Registry Editor
MarkoFaca said:
Same question here, is there some registry software or what?! Sorry for dumb question, I'm new with TP2
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Yes- it's called a registry editor, and there are a number of options (Total Commander, PHM Registry Editor, etc).
If you don't know what you're doing, though, be careful- don't start deleting things you don't think need to be there, and so on. You can mess up the system in a fundamental way.
Thanks for helping, downloading Resco Explorer, will let you know what have I done with it
ctbear said:
It will be smoother but you will lose your wallpaper
Another way to improve animation performance is to minimize the number of things appearing on the home screen. I recommend using Cookie's home tab to remove the quicklinks
That way you can keep your wallpaper, have smooth weather animation, and still have access to quicklinks by swiping up
(Actually the clock involves a lot more lua scripts so removing the clock would be more effective...but I don't think anyone would do that )
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After changing my clock to an analogue one (from the Fallout theme here), the weather animation is a lot smoother. Everything is a lot smoother actually, so changing the clock does wonders for everything really.
Holy crap! You're right! I've been irritated with laggy homescreen for so long and it's that damn clock! Thanks for the tip!
i think is not related with the clock but the weather icon which below the clock...when i use cookie home tab and i use "clock without weather"...my homepage weather animation immediate feel lot smoother and faster...
Any way to just dissable the full screen weather animation? i want the weather... just dont care for the animation that comes up on the whole screen.