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HTC Sense Weather updates

Asked this in Q&A section, but guess its a bit more relevant to here!
Probs a simple (or stupid ) question, however -
I've just installed the official TP2 update, just wondering how or what triggers the full screen weather effects on the calender/homepage?
I've seen screenshots and vids etc of the full screen effects but haven't actually seen them so far on the today page. Is there specific config or do they just "happen" on their own randomly.
Thanks in advance

betas
I think those are still in beta test phase. THere are a few ROMs here on XDA that have it built in. Look around in the various ROMs and see.

I am using the standard HTC WWE WM6.5 ROM and when I first installed the ROM I noticed the full screen weather animation at the home screen, however I have not seen it since for some reason! I'm not sure why, but it was cool and I want it to come back, not sure how.

j_sous said:
I am using the standard HTC WWE WM6.5 ROM and when I first installed the ROM I noticed the full screen weather animation at the home screen, however I have not seen it since for some reason! I'm not sure why, but it was cool and I want it to come back, not sure how.
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Your not the only one. On 1st install, the weather was "foggy" and I got full screen fog. I've never ever seen it since, even though I had other "foggy" days. This is on the stock HTC WWE 6.5 ROM.

j_sous said:
I am using the standard HTC WWE WM6.5 ROM and when I first installed the ROM I noticed the full screen weather animation at the home screen, however I have not seen it since for some reason! I'm not sure why, but it was cool and I want it to come back, not sure how.
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Yes, saw the same Could this be a feature of the HTC ROM? Can those using a cooked ROM comment?

dunno if this helps, but I have only seen the weahter animations on the home screen when you have default wallpaper.
As soon as you change to a custom wallpaper the animations stop.

Reaper said:
dunno if this helps, but I have only seen the weahter animations on the home screen when you have default wallpaper.
As soon as you change to a custom wallpaper the animations stop.
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You may be right! I switched back to default HTC wallpaper, put the phone in standby and then when I come out of standby the weather animation appears. Well, if that's true, that kinda sucks that we can't have the animation and the wallpaper of our choice.

The full screen weather animation is only for Leo ROMs which are Manila 2.5/6. The TP2 official update is only to like 2.2 (dunno what it is officially but it's not 2.5/6. Anyhow, you won't get the full screen weather unless you flash a custom ROM (or so I've heard and seen).

Nagrom Nniuq said:
The full screen weather animation is only for Leo ROMs which are Manila 2.5/6. The TP2 official update is only to like 2.2 (dunno what it is officially but it's not 2.5/6. Anyhow, you won't get the full screen weather unless you flash a custom ROM.
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I have full screen weather animations with standard HTC WWE 6.5 ROM, but as stated previously, it will only work when default HTC wallpaper is selected.

j_sous said:
I have full screen weather animations with standard HTC WWE 6.5 ROM, but as stated previously, it will only work when default HTC wallpaper is selected.
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comfirmed this works.
Tis a shame, even with a basic non animated wallpaper it doesn't work. However least we know the fix/workaround so there is a choice to be had.
kudos to reaper for the heads up.

I'm using the Max Manilla 2.5 Ultimate 1.1 theme (see picture in sig) and it allows
me to chose my own background and still shows the weather animation
on the home screen. You can even trigger the animation yourself by tapping the top left corner of the screen.
Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551489 to find it.
Read through the first 2 posts to see all the options this theme has.

j_sous said:
I have full screen weather animations with standard HTC WWE 6.5 ROM, but as stated previously, it will only work when default HTC wallpaper is selected.
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Cool! Good to know.

i usually just tapped the task bar then came out of it and it started working.

lilchip85 said:
i usually just tapped the task bar then came out of it and it started working.
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What version of manila? Have you set your own wallpaper or using the default?
<edit> Is there any way to manually change the windows default wallpaper? Might be a quick hack to get a user specified background to work? </edit>

HTC HD MIRI V 13.0 No weather wallpapaer animation at all but weather demo is their nay suggestions?

I agree.
I have been running the custom Energy rom with Manila 2.1 and if I switch back to the HTC Black today theme then I get the full screen animation.
Thats the only one that has the full screen.

kiwiruss said:
I agree.
I have been running the custom Energy rom with Manila 2.1 and if I switch back to the HTC Black today theme then I get the full screen animation.
Thats the only one that has the full screen.
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I have the latest Photon with 2.5, and if I set the wallpaper to default, and change the theme to HTC Black, then go to my home screen, tap the windows menu, then it back, it will full animate. Had sunny rays shoot out, and now have partly cloudy clouds drift across.

when i used energy photon 2.1 with hdwall for my tab backgrounds i had no problems. using his leo 2.5 and its there as well. i highly suggest using hd wall because some backgrounds seem to cancel out the weather animations

Task Manager
Whenever I hit the task manager in the top right hand corner while on the home tab, it usually triggers it. Hit it twice. Once to bring it up. Once to make it go away. Boom. Weather.

I have the official TP2 update for wm6.5, the weather animation can be activated on the home screen only with the default wallpaper. Also it can be brought up at will in two ways. hitting the windows start button soft or physical and closing it out by hitting the call end/home button or tapping the x in the top right corner immediately.

Easy tips to make your device look beautiful

I'm probably preaching to the noobs here since most of you seasoned veterans should already know all this. I just thought I would contribute something by consolidating a couple of easy tricks.
Sure, there are numerous themes out there. But these days, there's so many versions of Manila that it can get frustrating to find which theme works for your ROM. So, here's a couple of tips to personalize your device regardless of Manila version.
1. Make your taskbar more interesting and useful
There's really no reason to stick with the default WinMo taskbar. It's bland, boring, and you can only see battery level in 4 increments. There are numerous custom taskbars out there but I find this one the most eye-pleasing to me. Brian's Taskbar
2. Make your wallpaper visible on all tabs of Sense. And don't let landscape orientation mess up the image.
If you use Manila/TouchFlo3D/Sense, don't bother setting your wallpaper via the Settings tab. Your wallpaper will look alright on your Home tab in portrait mode. But you won't be able to see your wallpaper in your other tabs. And if you switch to landscape orientation, your wallpaper will look horrible. This tool solves all these problems. You can also use a completely different wallpaper for landscape if you choose to. HDWall
(The program is easy to figure out. Take the time and patience to do so. It is worth it.)
3. Keep your Today background beautiful in both landscape and portrait orientation
Those of you who use the default Today screen (instead of Sense, Mobile Shell, etc) will know that you set your wallpaper by doing one of the following:
Option A:
-go to "Today" settings
-toggle on "Use this picture as the background"
-tap "Browse" and then select the image file.
-tap "OK"
Option B:
-open the "Pictures & Videos" application
-Browse to the image file and open it
-Tap "Menu"
-Tap "Set as Today Background..."
-Move the selection area according to your own preference.
-Keep transparency level at 0% (This is an odd setting. I can't fathom a reason for not setting it at 0%)
-Tap "OK"
Rather than using a 480 by 800 image. Try using an image that is 1333 by 800 (width by height).
For WinMo 6.5 users who use HTC Sense, this tip still applies to you. This affects the lockscreen image and the background image of the Start Menu.

Awesome! Thanks! Yes there are noobs out there (...me). I definitely appreciate this. Can't wait to try it out!

Thanks, I am a noob and am trying to decipher all these options. Maybe there can be just series of Noob Stickies...?

And I thought I would find out about lipstick and thong undies here...

I just use an 800x800 image... works just the same.

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I just use an 800x800 image... works just the same.
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You're absolutely right. If you use an 800x800 image, the wallpaper displayed will not be scaled down and will be shown in full resolution.
However, here's the reason why I suggested using a 1333x800 image:
See the first attachment named 800x800jpg.
The blue represents the part of the wallpaper visible to you in portrait mode.
The red represents the part of the wallpaper visible in landscape mode. (Of course, imagine that the red extends behind the parts covered by blue in the middle.)
But as you can see, there's some chunks of white areas. Those parts of the image will never be displayed.
If you use a 1333x800 image, every pixel will be displayed in landscape mode. See 2nd attachment named 1333x800.jpg.

800x800 vs 1333x800
I agree entirely with the post above (very useful illustrations).
The only thing I would point out is that the 800x800 wallpaper misses out the corners of the picture in both orientations, whereas the larger wallpaper misses nothing out in one, but huge amounts in the other.
So I think it all depends on the composition of the picture really - if most of the picture is interesting then go for 800x800, if the best bits are in the centre third then go for the larger dimensions.
Of course it also depends on which orientation you spend most time using your phone in...

Just what i was looking for since Energy changed taskbar icons.
Brian's Taskbar looks awsome on the phone and ALSO seemed to make many other icons look more stylish such as storage card and folder icons. Im sure i will run into more stuff from this. Thanks

I have to say thanks for this post. I was unaware of another stable taskbar aside from Tsowen's work and Brian's definitely rocks.

Great post. I'm not exactly a noob, but I haven't spent any quality time with my phone for the last couple of months. I was waiting until some of the bugs got worked out on the programs I was hoping to use. And besides, hubby just got a Verizon Palm Pre so it renewed my interest in making my phone that much better than his.
Your directions were so complete and easy to use. My phone looks great now. That 3rd step was one I hadn't thought of. Last night I installed Brian's taskbar and HDwalls. The wallpaper looked wonderful. I thought I was stuck with the default background for the start menu until I got up this morning and tried your step 3. Now I'm a very happy camper. Thanks for the effort you took in writing this post.

Maybe a bit of a silly question, but I love those tomatoes on the lock screen. Is there any possibility that you could post that picture here?
Thanks in advance

Thanks! was looking to change the default taskbar, but didn't know how.. now i do
BTW: also like the tomatos!

catcraig said:
...Your directions were so complete and easy to use. My phone looks great now. That 3rd step was one I hadn't thought of. Last night I installed Brian's taskbar and HDwalls. The wallpaper looked wonderful. I thought I was stuck with the default background for the start menu until I got up this morning and tried your step 3. Now I'm a very happy camper. Thanks for the effort you took in writing this post.
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Thanks for the kind words!
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Maybe a bit of a silly question, but I love those tomatoes on the lock screen. Is there any possibility that you could post that picture here?...
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dappie said:
Thanks! was looking to change the default taskbar, but didn't know how.. now i do
BTW: also like the tomatos!
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Here you go fellow tomato-lovers! I'd also suggest to check out the rest of the site for more cool images.
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1990/solanum.html

Thanks so much

Thanks a lot !!!!
Great work!

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Thanks for the kind words!
Here you go fellow tomato-lovers! I'd also suggest to check out the rest of the site for more cool images.
http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1990/solanum.html
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Hey... great site !

i see in the thumbnail posted the task bar is working fine with the updated Rom showing the weather on the today screan , but with me since i updated my Rom the task bar have a bug
the network signal icon always shows as if there is no signal
how can that be fixed ?

samarrai said:
i see in the thumbnail posted the task bar is working fine with the updated Rom showing the weather on the today screan , but with me since i updated my Rom the task bar have a bug
the network signal icon always shows as if there is no signal
how can that be fixed ?
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would be helpful if you mentioned what ROM you're using and what taskbar is causing you difficulties....

WM 6.5
Rom 1.86.415.2 (67102)
and i tried both brain's taskbar and spike's

few min ago i used another Brain taske bar
(New_F_ Brians WM6.5 Taskbar gfreek edition V5a.cab)
it works without a bug in the signal icon , but i'm not lovin the icons really niko's were much pleasant for me, especially the start icon its not the htc logo
also i have another question my friend, which i chose to show clock on taskbar , it used to show it in any running program but not in the Home screan and it's taps , which is logic
since i update the Rom and the clock in the task bar shows in the Home screan and make the battery disappears !!!!!
even when i installed this brain taskbar also the clock removes the battery icon from the home screan

Found! Cause of slowness in Sense 2.5 animated weather

Hi all, I thought I'd share a mini breakthrough I had with Animated Weather performance on the Sense 2.5 home screen on the TP2. The animation is 100% fast and smooth if you DON'T activate any wallpaper.
I'm using the stock WM 6.5 South East Asia ROM with the stock Manilla version 2.5.20121225.0. I was recently forced to reload my TP2 after a bad application install required a hard reset. I immediately noticed how much faster the weather animation was after the hard reset. It was 100% fast and smooth. So I only made incremental changes until I determined what the cause of the slowness was.
As soon as I enabled ANY of the weather wallpapers, the performance of the animated weather dropped to around 70%. The problem is that there's no way to remove the wallpaper after you've selected one - you can only change it to a different wallaper - so I had to do a hard reset again to restore the animated weather performance to 100%.
Does anyone know if there is a way of removing the wallpaper using a registry edit or a file system edit?
I know that Max Manilla has a 'remove wallpaper' feature in it, but I've found that the weather animation is still only around 70% with Max Manilla installed.

Have you also tried to slide up on the homepage, to display the 9 quicklaunch buttons? That also gives a fast, and smooth weather animation, even with a wallpaper.
The wallpaper itself is not the issue, it's the elements that are on the homepage that cause the problem (clock, calendar).
I think you can remove the wallpaper in the registry. It should be in [HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila].

Yes I think you're right, but I also believe that the wallpaper is like an additional element that the animation struggles with. If I have a wallpaper enabled then I can only have another 1-2 elements displayed before the animation suffers. With no wallpaper I can have 1. the clock (with the weather insert) 2. the calender and 3. the quick links, all displayed, and still have excellent animation performance.
I'll have a look at that registry key after work tonight and see if I can find the setting to disable the wallpaper.

I'd probably say those "elements" like the clock and short cuts and email and missed call notifactions are probably more important to ...... everyone.... then having clouds float across their screen

Aaron McCarthy said:
I'd probably say those "elements" like the clock and short cuts and email and missed call notifactions are probably more important to ...... everyone.... then having clouds float across their screen
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What I'm saying is, you can have all the elements displayed AND the weather animation nice and smooth, as long as you don't enable a wallpaper. I for one, happen to like the animation
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I think you can remove the wallpaper in the registry. It should be in [HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila].
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Thanks for the tip. I found out that if you've enabled a wallpaper and now you want to disable it you just delete these 2 entries from the registry:
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\CachedBackgroundPath
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeBackgroundPath
Neither of them exist prior to enabling a wallpaper

So, is it smoother once you delete these keys ?

Alcibiade said:
So, is it smoother once you delete these keys ?
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It will be smoother but you will lose your wallpaper
Another way to improve animation performance is to minimize the number of things appearing on the home screen. I recommend using Cookie's home tab to remove the quicklinks
That way you can keep your wallpaper, have smooth weather animation, and still have access to quicklinks by swiping up
(Actually the clock involves a lot more lua scripts so removing the clock would be more effective...but I don't think anyone would do that )

ctbear said:
It will be smoother but you will lose your wallpaper
Another way to improve animation performance is to minimize the number of things appearing on the home screen. I recommend using Cookie's home tab to remove the quicklinks
That way you can keep your wallpaper, have smooth weather animation, and still have access to quicklinks by swiping up
(Actually the clock involves a lot more lua scripts so removing the clock would be more effective...but I don't think anyone would do that )
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I have a better idea... removing everything from the main screen. This way it will be very very fast.
Come on let's be serious !!! If you remove the quicklinks and a few other stuff you'd better with Sense 2.1
If removing the wallpaper makes an actual difference it's worth it (I like having a black or dark one anyway...). Btw Valkyrie ROMs are quite smooth even with the wallpaper on (Just wanna see if I can get it even faster)

Alcibiade said:
So, is it smoother once you delete these keys ?
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It's definitely smoother after you delete these keys. Even if you've selected a black wallpaper, deleting these keys will still help because it actually removes the wallpaper altogether, so there's one less thing the animation has to contend with.
I can't say if this is a good idea for those of you who have Cookies Home Tab or Max Manila installed. It works great for me though, on a stock ROM running Sense 2.5. Back up the Manila registry key first if you're not sure, so it can be easily restored. It seems there's no need to disable Touch Flo while making these changes - they can be made on the fly while touch flo is still running.

I tried this (deleting the two registry entries) on the stock Sprint 6.5 ROM - works great! Noticable improvement on the home page. Thank you!

steve4bass said:
What I'm saying is, you can have all the elements displayed AND the weather animation nice and smooth, as long as you don't enable a wallpaper. I for one, happen to like the animation
Thanks for the tip. I found out that if you've enabled a wallpaper and now you want to disable it you just delete these 2 entries from the registry:
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\CachedBackgroundPath
HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeBackgroundPath
Neither of them exist prior to enabling a wallpaper[/How do I get in to the registry?]
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Alcibiade said:
I have a better idea... removing everything from the main screen. This way it will be very very fast.
Come on let's be serious !!! If you remove the quicklinks and a few other stuff you'd better with Sense 2.1
If removing the wallpaper makes an actual difference it's worth it (I like having a black or dark one anyway...). Btw Valkyrie ROMs are quite smooth even with the wallpaper on (Just wanna see if I can get it even faster)
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come on dude...it's not like you will lose the quicklinks altogether...all you're compromising is an addition swipe
but anyways I myself prefer no weather animation, it's all up to the user

I myself prefer no weather animation, it's all up to the user
Man, same here.
It kinda irritated me in the first place having redundant information (to the weather tab) making Home tab elements harder to read, but then when I realized the effect it had on performance, it was GONE-dee.

billy-jean said:
How do I get in to the registry?
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Resco Explorer 2010 or PHM Registry Editor

MarkoFaca said:
Same question here, is there some registry software or what?! Sorry for dumb question, I'm new with TP2
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Yes- it's called a registry editor, and there are a number of options (Total Commander, PHM Registry Editor, etc).
If you don't know what you're doing, though, be careful- don't start deleting things you don't think need to be there, and so on. You can mess up the system in a fundamental way.

Thanks for helping, downloading Resco Explorer, will let you know what have I done with it

ctbear said:
It will be smoother but you will lose your wallpaper
Another way to improve animation performance is to minimize the number of things appearing on the home screen. I recommend using Cookie's home tab to remove the quicklinks
That way you can keep your wallpaper, have smooth weather animation, and still have access to quicklinks by swiping up
(Actually the clock involves a lot more lua scripts so removing the clock would be more effective...but I don't think anyone would do that )
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After changing my clock to an analogue one (from the Fallout theme here), the weather animation is a lot smoother. Everything is a lot smoother actually, so changing the clock does wonders for everything really.

Holy crap! You're right! I've been irritated with laggy homescreen for so long and it's that damn clock! Thanks for the tip!

i think is not related with the clock but the weather icon which below the clock...when i use cookie home tab and i use "clock without weather"...my homepage weather animation immediate feel lot smoother and faster...

Any way to just dissable the full screen weather animation? i want the weather... just dont care for the animation that comes up on the whole screen.

Grey sense tab backgrounds?

Is there any way to get these back?..i remember before on my europe leo the sense tab bacgrounds in music and settings the color was black/greyish..now on the tmobile 2.13 rom its solid black...is there anyway to get the grey color back? this is a picture of the color im talking about
http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/reviews/0158/htc-hd2-settings.jpg

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Is there any way to get these back?..i remember before on my europe leo the sense tab bacgrounds in music and settings the color was black/greyish..now on the tmobile 2.13 rom its solid black...is there anyway to get the grey color back? this is a picture of the color im talking about
http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/reviews/0158/htc-hd2-settings.jpg
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Download HDWalls (HDWall_v0.28b) seems to be the most stable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
1. Open it up on your PC, and run HDWALLS.EXE.
2. Click on slider on the side task bar. Right there are the original icon for the slide. select then create cab.
3 Now under options check the box to include slider bar
done... convert and create cab, and install. if you get confused, just followed hdwalls instructions. im sure there are people with links to cabs the way you may want it setup. my hd2 is pimped out thanks to HDWALLS. make sure to install hq patch.

unleashed12 said:
Is there any way to get these back?..i remember before on my europe leo the sense tab bacgrounds in music and settings the color was black/greyish..now on the tmobile 2.13 rom its solid black...is there anyway to get the grey color back? this is a picture of the color im talking about
http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/reviews/0158/htc-hd2-settings.jpg
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I think what you're looking for there is the background itself, not the slider itself or the curtain behind it.
I believe the image below is the one you're looking for. I went ahead and cabbed it up in HDWalls using some settings that should work on the new stock tmo ROM. If you use this cab to make that image your background (it'll apply it to all tab backgrounds), you'll also need to install the HQ patch I've attached as well.
Let us know if this worked for what you needed

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I think what you're looking for there is the background itself, not the slider itself or the curtain behind it.
I believe the image below is the one you're looking for. I went ahead and cabbed it up in HDWalls using some settings that should work on the new stock tmo ROM. If you use this cab to make that image your background (it'll apply it to all tab backgrounds), you'll also need to install the HQ patch I've attached as well.
Let us know if this worked for what you needed
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omg this worked perfectttt.. thank you so much..now it looks just like it used to on my old leo.. thanks.. ireally hated the stale solid black..
but theres one problem... now i can no longer change my weather background..ie its the same as the gradient background..like it wont apply any of the other "Stock" wallpapers in the folder..its always the black gradient no matter what... is there any way to fix this?.. ie on my home tab i could have any sense wallpaper but on all other tabs.. the normal gradient..
EDIT* okay i looked into it..seems like i have to use some app now to change my wallpaper..the stock picker will no longer work.... thanks..

unleashed12 said:
omg this worked perfectttt.. thank you so much..now it looks just like it used to on my old leo.. thanks.. ireally hated the stale solid black..
but theres one problem... now i can no longer change my weather background..ie its the same as the gradient background..like it wont apply any of the other "Stock" wallpapers in the folder..its always the black gradient no matter what... is there any way to fix this?.. ie on my home tab i could have any sense wallpaper but on all other tabs.. the normal gradient..
EDIT* okay i looked into it..seems like i have to use some app now to change my wallpaper..the stock picker will no longer work.... thanks..
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Ahh yes sorry, I didn't catch that you wanted that image on all tabs other than your home tab, with a separate image instead for that. I'm honestly not familiar with any of the wallpaper choosers that might be out there. However, you might want to take a look at BG4A (BG4All tabs)...I seem to recall that it will put backgrounds on the tabs but still let you pick a separate one for your homescreen, but I haven't used it in a long time and could be mistaken

i hae the same problem and its the biggest reason i hat the newest rom upgrade
i realy hope someone can help me solve this problem becouse it gets on my nerves now!

Kirivolution said:
i hae the same problem and its the biggest reason i hat the newest rom upgrade
i realy hope someone can help me solve this problem becouse it gets on my nerves now!
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Well you guys should all be running CHT on your devices anyways..that has an option to set an image for your tabs...in bothe 1.8.5 and 2.0...just download CHT and it will take care of that completely!

After updating my original German T-Mobile ROM from 1.72.111.4 to 3.14.111.1 (04666) GER with Manila 2.5.20181527.1, I get the same solid black background on all Sense tabs. This thread was the only search result that describes the problem.
HDWall v0.29b was not my first solution. Because I only want back my gray backgrounds.
Therefore, I installed the HQWallpaperPatch v1.30.
This was a successful attempt. All my gray backgrounds were there again. But now it was not possible to me to change the wallpaper of the home tab any more.
And the newly transparent look of the notification bar and soft bar is very ugly while working with normal applications.
Then, nevertheless after uninstalling the HQWallpaperPatch, I have tried out HDWall. But the resulting CABs were not compatible with my ROM. The wallpapers have not changed and the Sense UI became unstable. Only a hard reset/cold boot could solve the problems with Sense.
CHT is the acronym from "Co0kie's Home Tab". I do not need all that features. Hence, I have investigated to BG4all (Background for all tabs).
BG4all only replaces two files in the \Windows folder. 090a4ee8_manila includes a compressed script. I am not sure, why 3a8e04af_manila also must be replaced.
But there are many versions of this patch in the wild. I used m9editor to compare all shipped files with my original ones.
And I found a compatible version. This BG4all_Manila2.5.cab works without problems along with my ROM version.

Black and White Metal 2.5 2013

See if you like it. It is White Metal 2.5 2013 for a 6.5 build. Tell me what you think.
Also including a different contact icon if you want it. Not necessarry but a different style in case you do not like the contact tab with the human outline.
I am running mighty rom Windows 6.5 with Manila 2.5.2013
I was not happy with the centering of the Calendar date on the tray icon-so I included a cab with the fix.
Facebook Tab. You must already have the tab in order to use this. I installed it from Meltwaters and then alterred his manila for tabs

lubbad85, you are my hero! I have been looking for this everywhere. I don't know why but for some reason I've liked this style of slider ever since I've seen it on another carrier's phone.
I installed it asap and I like how it works! It works like a charm, I love it. Great job lubbad85, you rock! The only thing I would probably do is just better the screen icons when you change to a different tab on the slider. Those stock white ones will do but I would just see if I could replace them with any other better icons. Just my personal opinion. Other than that, you created a beautiful slider!
Quick question, I'm running C0okie's Home Tab. How does that extra notification bar appear? (The one on top of the actual sider)

develop1 said:
lubbad85, you are my hero! I have been looking for this everywhere. I don't know why but for some reason I've liked this style of slider ever since I've seen it on another carrier's phone.
I installed it asap and I like how it works! It works like a charm, I love it. Great job lubbad85, you rock! The only thing I would probably do is just better the screen icons when you change to a different tab on the slider. Those stock white ones will do but I would just see if I could replace them with any other better icons. Just my personal opinion. Other than that, you created a beautiful slider!
Quick question, I'm running C0okie's Home Tab. How does that extra notification bar appear? (The one on top of the actual sider)
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In the options for cookies home tab you can put the extra notification bar. I think under miscelaneous The bar is a bit redundant though.
Glad you like the slider. Give me an example of what kind of slider you really want. If you give me a direction I can build one. Manila is very forgiving. If you screw it up you have only to delete the manila file that you put into windows and the phone's ROM will build it back the way it was before the new manila was used.

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In the options for cookies home tab you can put the extra notification bar. I think under miscelaneous The bar is a bit redundant though.
Glad you like the slider. Give me an example of what kind of slider you really want. If you give me a direction I can build one. Manila is very forgiving. If you screw it up you have only to delete the manila file that you put into windows and the phone's ROM will build it back the way it was before the new manila was used.
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I've been looking around in C0okie's Home Tab for the past 40 minutes and I believe I've gone through the whole editor twice and I still cannot find the setting which enables the extra notification bar. I feel like a noob or just looking for something that isn't there. I'm running v1.8.5.

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develop1 said:
I've been looking around in C0okie's Home Tab for the past 40 minutes and I believe I've gone through the whole editor twice and I still cannot find the setting which enables the extra notification bar. I feel like a noob or just looking for something that isn't there. I'm running v1.8.5.
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From the home screen soft key
1. Menu
2. Edit home layout
3. Main Home
4. Rt softkey Advanced
5. Check Show Notifications

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From the home screen soft key
1. Menu
2. Edit home layout
3. Main Home
4. Rt softkey Advanced
5. Check Show Notifications
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I got it! Thank, yet again! As far as the slider goes, it works like a charm! I really don't have any other suggestions for it as of right now. Maybe later as time goes by and I think of something. But if you implement any improvements or make any changes to it please post it up, I will gladly test it out. Thank again!

lubbad85, I found a small little defect that you might consider. When I slide to a desired tab on my touch flo, I find that the tab icon I chose has a blurry icon. It looks like as if there is another lighter icon behind the primary icon. It's just a little annoying and tends to cross my eyes after a while. lol. Check it out in the attachment to understand what I'm talking about.

Nice work bro! Would you consider adding icons for Facebook and Call History tabs please?

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See if you like it. It is White Metal 2.5 2013 for a 6.5 build. Tell me what you think.
Also including a different contact icon if you want it. Not necessarry but a different style in case you do not like the contact tab with the human outline.
I am running mighty rom Windows 6.5 with Manila 2.5.2013
I was not happy with the centering of the Calendar date on the tray icon-so I included a cab with the fix.
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I found this slider skin very pretty and charming! Is it OK to cook this skin into rom? I'm developing roms for myself, but somehow the xda community convinced me to upload them to public xD

develop1 said:
lubbad85, I found a small little defect that you might consider. When I slide to a desired tab on my touch flo, I find that the tab icon I chose has a blurry icon. It looks like as if there is another lighter icon behind the primary icon. It's just a little annoying and tends to cross my eyes after a while. lol. Check it out in the attachment to understand what I'm talking about.
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I think it's meant to.

Jackos said:
I found this slider skin very pretty and charming! Is it OK to cook this skin into rom? I'm developing roms for myself, but somehow the xda community convinced me to upload them to public xD
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I like that idea. I have been running a Mighty Rom. But I will try yours when you get done cooking.

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I like that idea. I have been running a Mighty Rom. But I will try yours when you get done cooking.
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My ROMs won't be updated before August if someone doesn't find some critical bugs
This slider really fits the "old" Sense 2.5 skin, however it has got some images that could be a bit more polished... Ach, and some icons could be a little re-sized, because they aren't this same size. Anyway overall the experience is great! So keep up this wonderful work, first time that I like something that isn't made by ShowTime7.

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develop1 said:
lubbad85, I found a small little defect that you might consider. When I slide to a desired tab on my touch flo, I find that the tab icon I chose has a blurry icon. It looks like as if there is another lighter icon behind the primary icon. It's just a little annoying and tends to cross my eyes after a while. lol. Check it out in the attachment to understand what I'm talking about.
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You can fix this with a darker slider. I will cab it up for you here. It is for 2.5 manila

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You can fix this with a darker slider. I will cab it up for you here. It is for 2.5 manila
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Thanks lubbad85, you're the man! Your work is greatly appreciated.

Hi there, I downloaded and installed the theme, but I dont know how to change the theme, i hate to ask but how exactly do I apply the theme? I tried Star->Settings->Today, but the theme is not on the list of available themes.
Thanks for your patience, I've only had the phone for a week or so.

iotran said:
Hi there, I downloaded and installed the theme, but I dont know how to change the theme, i hate to ask but how exactly do I apply the theme? I tried Star->Settings->Today, but the theme is not on the list of available themes.
Thanks for your patience, I've only had the phone for a week or so.
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You're going to run the .cab file from your storage card and install it onto your device when prompted to. Immediately after the slider is installed it is going to ask you to restart so the changes can take effect. You hit "yes" or "ok" (Not sure which option it gives you) Then, once the device restarts and turns on, the slider will appear and should be already installed automatically. You shouldn't have to do any other additional setting changes after you restart so the slider takes effect.

Hmm I installed all 3 cabs and it just told me "white metal 2.5 2013.cab was successfully installed on your device" (same thing with the other 2) but it didn't prompt me if I wanted to restart the device.
Any ideas why? this blue at&t theme is ok but this B&W Metal theme looks amazing.
Thanks

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iotran said:
Hmm I installed all 3 cabs and it just told me "white metal 2.5 2013.cab was successfully installed on your device" (same thing with the other 2) but it didn't prompt me if I wanted to restart the device.
Any ideas why? this blue at&t theme is ok but this B&W Metal theme looks amazing.
Thanks
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Two ways to install. One is you first turn off sense
1. start menu
2. settings
3. today screen
4. items
5. uncheck htc sence
6. install cabs
7. and then go back and check htc sense
Or install the cabs and then soft reset

Hello again lubbad85!
Could you do me a little favor and add a facebook icon too? The meltwaters work is really impressive!

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Jackos said:
Hello again lubbad85!
Could you do me a little favor and add a facebook icon too? The meltwaters work is really impressive!
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You just want the sense tab-in other words you already installed the other files neccessary for the tab? So just the tab icons?
If so here is the cab for just the tab sense icons in white to match the set. I cannot test it since I have not installed the control files for this tab.