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i posted this in ppc geeks thread as well (i'm stating this because i got fussed at for 'double posting' lol!) but couldnt find a solution to my problem, anywho...my son was trying to help me work the self camera, in the process, a pop-up came up asking if we wanted to use either of 2 programs that were listed in the pop-up (for the life of me i cant remember the name of the 1st one, i think it was something "messaging'' and the 2nd one was something with the letters "tw" in it. he clicked on the 1st offering and then clicked on the bottom that stated something to the effect of 'use this program from now on...' the problem is that by his clicking on whatever he clicked on, i now have all my apps on one page and i have to 'drag' that one page up to access them, they are located on a grey tab thingy....I DONT WANT THAT! i want my apps to be spread over the like 3-4 pages like i had it in the beginning but dont know how to undo the damage my son did...i also had a page of bookmarks and they are now gone ;-( can anybody tell me what we did wrong and how to fix it? i really want my apps back and all my bookmarks and homepages!!!
I think u accidentally changed the default launcher, to fix this u can go to settings-applications-manage applications-scroll to touchwiz launcher and then click on it and then click clear defaults. Click the home button and that popup will show again, this time choose tw as ur deafault. Another way is to download the free app home switcher .
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I think u accidentally changed the default launcher, to fix this u can go to settings-applications-manage applications-scroll to touchwiz launcher and then click on it and then click clear defaults. Click the home button and that popup will show again, this time choose tw as ur deafault. Another way is to download the free app home switcher .
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ok, the only problem is i dont have touchwiz listed in my 'manage applications'...is this an app? where do i get it from??? by the way, thanks for helping!!!!
I don't have an epic but did you check all applications in manage applications instead if just the running apps?
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Oops forgot to mention, when in applications u have to hit menu-filter-all then touchwiz should show up
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Also the exact name is twlauncher
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Oops forgot to mention, when in applications u have to hit menu-filter-all then touchwiz should show up
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ok...did all that, but it says no defaults set and clear defaults cant be clicked on ;-( i can click on clear data and force stop only!
Hmm thats weird, r u rooted? If u are can u send me a screenshot using shootme? Ur homescreen sounds like stock android so I figured that was the prob, but maybe im wrong. If u can, do a factory reset, but if u dont want to do that then try using a home replacement such as launcher pro which can be downloaded from the market and see if u like how that looks.
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Hmm thats weird, r u rooted? If u are can u send me a screenshot using shootme? Ur homescreen sounds like stock android so I figured that was the prob, but maybe im wrong. If u can, do a factory reset, but if u dont want to do that then try using a home replacement such as launcher pro which can be downloaded from the market and see if u like how that looks.
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not rooted...stock rom girl here! i'ma try the launcher pro and i'll let know how that works for me...i REALLY do appreciate your help!!!!
2kidz said:
not rooted...stock rom girl here! i'ma try the launcher pro and i'll let know how that works for me...i REALLY do appreciate your help!!!!
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Also if you download another launcher like launcher pro... and then run that app, the next time you press the home button you'll et the prompt asking which homescreen, and you'll be able to go bck to the twlauncher again... but this time, make that ur default, or don't check the default mark and have none.
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thanks guys! i got my home pages/bookmarks back! u guys are the greatest! have a fabulous day!
idk what the deal is but i hardly ever have more than 100mb of ram free. it at times goes down to 45mb free. i cant even watch a youtube video, pause it to reply to a text, and go back to youtube without the whole video refreshing. any suggestions on what i can do to free up some ram? idk where all the 512mb went >.<
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I bought an app called Autostarts from the market and that helped a TON. Since every app seems to "need" to start when the phone boots. You need to be rooted to use it.
Autostarts is great because a lot of apps have several instances that will trigger it to run. Like receiving a text runs sprint nav, things like that. This app will allow you to stop it.
The built in task manager app is good too. If you do a level two kill on the RAM tab it'll free up a bunch. You need to re open your call blocker, and other third party stuff you do want running afterward though.
When you exit a program are you doing it using the home button or the back button because usin the home button doesn't close the app it just "minimizes" it....the back button will close it while leaving essential data in memory for a quick startup next time you open it....if you are exiting using the back button then I would ask how many apps you have installed and how many widgets you have running on your homescreen
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I have the same problem, and most of the app that run are the crapware from sprint. But things like email, Gmail, settings, etc are always running. If I close all running apps, they just open 30 seconds later.
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I bought an app called Autostarts from the market and that helped a TON. Since every app seems to "need" to start when the phone boots. You need to be rooted to use it.
Autostarts is great because a lot of apps have several instances that will trigger it to run. Like receiving a text runs sprint nav, things like that. This app will allow you to stop it.
The built in task manager app is good too. If you do a level two kill on the RAM tab it'll free up a bunch. You need to re open your call blocker, and other third party stuff you do want running afterward though.
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Thanks a ton for this. I downloaded that app and it seems to be helping.
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When you exit a program are you doing it using the home button or the back button because usin the home button doesn't close the app it just "minimizes" it....the back button will close it while leaving essential data in memory for a quick startup next time you open it....if you are exiting using the back button then I would ask how many apps you have installed and how many widgets you have running on your homescreen
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I always press the back button when exiting an app but whenever i leave an app by pressing the home button and go back to it i usually have to reload whatever i was doing.
I have a problem with this too. I can use ATK to kill things running in the background and that will bring me up above 100 usually. Then within a matter of a minute it goes down to the mid 50s again. I do use a few widgets though.
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I have a problem with this too. I can use ATK to kill things running in the background and that will bring me up above 100 usually. Then within a matter of a minute it goes down to the mid 50s again. I do use a few widgets though.
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What widgets and if they do background updates (facebook, twitter, etc.) how often do they update?
you shouldn't really need an autokiller with froyo.. (which I've heard a thousand times), but in all honesty, I kill certain apps that I know to be potential memory hogs. But as far as just normal stuff running in the background, you're not really going to free up memory by killing those, because they're just going to load back up.. using more battery.
Here's the general idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_(computer_science)
But if you wanna check if, for example, if Youtube, a music player, launcher and angrybirds are all somehow really running in the background, (with froyo), I just hold the Home button, click Task Manager, and you see and can kill them there.
There's also a RAM Manager in there you can check out in there as well.
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I always press the back button when exiting an app but whenever i leave an app by pressing the home button and go back to it i usually have to reload whatever i was doing.
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That's because android killed the app to free up memory. In most cases android does a pretty good job in freeing up memory. For instance i know if i leave the xda app and do nothing it will stay open the next time i come back. But lets say i leave the xda app turn turn pandora on and brows the web, the phone will close xda to free up memory
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I typically keep about 140 mb of ram free. I use Startup Manager to keep progs from ever starting and Memory Booster to keep the bs from ever taking over my phone.
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How much free ram space do you guys have after startup?
If I don´t get wrong 97mb
i hover between 200mb - 250mb free typically.
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i hover between 200mb - 250mb free typically.
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Odd i cant get above 200Mbits.
As long as you have some your fine. I've not had a problem yet.
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Directly after start-up I have 270 MB, probably 280 without some apps that start up automatically like whatsapp.
Edit: I did delete most widgets, just left the one for music.
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Odd i cant get above 200Mbits.
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well i dont have any of those ****ty widgets running and only really use one homescreen. dont have many apps running as services either apart from whatsapp. i do tend to kill stuff like EventManager and SetupWizard that like to pop back up in running services from time to time. saves about 15-25mb.
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well i dont have any of those ****ty widgets running and only really use one homescreen. dont have many apps running as services either apart from whatsapp. i do tend to kill stuff like EventManager and SetupWizard that like to pop back up in running services from time to time. saves about 15-25mb.
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Has anyone found a way to just disable stuff like Setting Guide and Media Server? There must be a way to disable those program from starting up. Sorry if im being totally ignorant, but i just moved here from a WM6.5 device
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Has anyone found a way to just disable stuff like Setting Guide and Media Server? There must be a way to disable those program from starting up. Sorry if im being totally ignorant, but i just moved here from a WM6.5 device
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I know titanium backup can freeze apps from starting up, but you have to be rooted. Hopefully the play gets root soon
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I did the grey blur Rom, loving it, but when it got rid of all the bloatware it got rid of my task killer. The one with auto end list. Anyone know how I can attain that again?
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^looking for that too, he means to Task Manager that was on the stock rom.
What for? Read up on task killers.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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I use it to kill a few rogue apps that don't like to turn off and destroy my battery, like Navigon.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
Ok, just looked and I am running Greyblur and it has the stock task killer still there. Also on the gingerblur thread or site they have a zip file of stick bloatware, could be there.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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No problem, I'm just tired of Task Killer topics that sometimes end up in flame wars...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
Most good task managers will help kill those apps and have the option to put certain apps on an exclude to kill list, which gives you control of what is running and what is not. A good way to figure things out is to kill all your running apps in the task manager and see what will restart. You can put the ones you want and need running, such as widgets and apps that get updates, on an exclude to kill list...that helps with the whole "battery drains because app keeps having to restart" argument as to why task managers are "bad." I use Autostarts to prevent apps i don't want running from starting for useless reasons and Advanced Task Manager to force close ones when I don't need them any longer. However, there is a learning curve as to what you shutdown or prevent from running, as it may affect other apps.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
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That's the only thing that I miss about Eclair, you could truly lock that sh*t down... *sigh*
Can any1 point me to a task killer which will force kill apps.I am talking about something like the one click task kill in Lewaos rom status bar. Most task killers I have tried only kill apps and those apps come up again automatically. Please help me
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Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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rishabho1 said:
Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
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This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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onepinksheep said:
This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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Okay okay!! Just chill. No need to get that aggressive on this topic. On my phone apps like facebook, friendcaster
etc keep draining battery.Now don't say these r useless too and I should stop using them. I know how android works with Ram and all that. Have been using this fone for over 18 months. I just want to know about dat kind of taskiller
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Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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That was some what helpful. Thanks
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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Yeah I should probably close the receivers for boot receiver and connectivity change
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Use super task killer widget or make a shortcut of RUNNING SERVICES to your homescreen.
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you might also give System Panel a try..available at play store
Task Killer
Use Automatic Task Killer.free on gapps. U just have to select the apps u want to be killed and it kills them when ur screen is off.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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vlt96 said:
I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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dante197 said:
Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autostarts, is paid, I would honestly actually pay for it, but till then I am pirate
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Once I closed a receiver of poweramp and it didn't open up
I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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which toolbox did u use? u should have USB debugging turned on
The whole debate surrounding task killers are stupid. Our phones have low memory and we are running custom built roms on our devices which tend to require more from our hardware in the case of ICS.
I like the ES TaskManager/File Explorer combo, has a nice task manager, autostart feature and apk backups.