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Change WiFi switch to toggle EVDO?

Hey, I was wondering if there's a way to make the wifi switch toggle the EVDO connection instead. My EVDO is on pretty much all the time, which is a good thing when I'm using it frequently, such as when I'm bored (read: bathroom), or when I'm stuck in traffic. However, at work, I get a really weak EVDO signal, so it's constantly searching and draining my battery life. Is there any way to remap the wifi switch to toggle the EVDO connection instead?
P.S.- I know I could probably switch off all the apps that auto-connect to EVDO, such as WP or pRSS, but I'd rather just be able to kill and establish the whole connection instead. Color me weird.
Thanks in advance for any insights.

i dont think so, AFAIK the wifi switch is actually physically toggling power top the wifi adaptor, so theres no way to remap it with software

Use the Comm Manager button (right below the power button) and click on the Data Connection icon to disable EVDO. It will reconnect when the next autoconnecting program runs.

defaultdotxbe said:
i dont think so, AFAIK the wifi switch is actually physically toggling power top the wifi adaptor, so theres no way to remap it with software
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You can turn the wifi on from the comm manager even with the switch in the off position...

StarmanDX said:
You can turn the wifi on from the comm manager even with the switch in the off position...
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no on mine i cant...in fact i dont even have a wifi option in comm manager, however other software controls for wifi cant turn it on when the switch is off (they can turn it off when the switch is on though)

There's really no need.
EVDO goes dormant after a short while when the connection isn't active (transferring data) to conserve resources at the base station (tower) as well as your battery. So it's really not doing much because EVDO connections are initiated from your handset, not the tower.
The low signal will drain your battery a bit faster because the voice radio (also the radio for 1xRTT or "really slow data") has to keep track of towers actively and wake up every few seconds to make sure it doesn't need to ring, pick up an SMS, or tell you there's a voicemail waiting. Lower signal means your phone has to transmit at higher power. So it's not EVDO, it's voice that you have to worry about draining battery with low signal.

I would love to do this for BlueTooth since it is having so many problems. Anyone else take a look for this?

WIFI power on software For CHECKING EMAIL

Hi
is there any program which turns on WIFI for windows email checking and turn it off afterward(even in standby state)?

Would LOVE it !

Yes there is But, its not free, it's $10.00. The app is called "ct scheduler" It'll allow you to turn on/off wifi at anytime you like and however many times you like. Theres more features also, like turning on/off bluetooth, sending a sms at a given time, schedule a softreset, adjust volume at chosen times, and more. i love this app, but again, it's $10.00.
dschoenike

try sk tools i think they have something that will do it or a app that will

aaronpoweruser said:
try sk tools i think they have something that will do it or a app that will
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I think you mean SKSchema.

What I'm looking for is this:
An app that uses the GPS to turn WiFi ON at predetermined coordinates.
So for example, I walk to the coffee shop, GPS knows I'm getting close, turns WiFi ON. WiFi auto-connects while I'm there, as I step out, it times out at the preset time (part of wm6). I drive to the office, again, GPS know to turn Wifi ON and phone then auto connects to the network there. Same when I get back home.
This will save me some $ on data plan and get me a faster connection when I'm in a friendly wifi zone.
Thoughts?

Auto-Off for WiFi when not at home

Hi,
i'd like to save some battery on my desire and i think WiFi is draining the battery a lot.
Like many people i use wifi only at home but i forget to turn off wifi often and then the phone is searching for new wifi networks all the time.
Is there an app out there which turns off wifi automatically when a certain wifi network is out of range? Switching on manually is no problem, cause when i use internet at home i realize quick that i am on 3G and not Wifi. I think there is no way for an auto-on/auto-off.
Any ideas?
thanks

There's an app called Sweet Dreams that turn Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/Ringer/ on or off based on some things like current day, hour of the day, location, sound in the room, movement of the handset.
It's more focused on saving battery and turning sound down when you sleep but works perfectly for what you need.
There's also something like Locale

thx, but i think both apps use GPS for the Location which drains the battery again
A Simple:
If wifi XXX is out of range for more than 5 minutes -> turn off wifi

Or you can use "Setting Profiles" which I use and prefer much more over "Locale"
With Setting Profiles you have the option to save a location based on either
Lat/lon or Cells ids or WIFI location.
Also has reverse logic
Info:
***.probeez.com
(replace *** with www as I am not allowed to post external links)
Best program in Market for this if you ask me.

How the hell do you set this up
LOL. I wanted to turn wifi off when away from home
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Might be easier to help you if you also tell us what program your trying to setup

y5 battery saver - used it on my g1 and hero with perfect results
more info: http://y5.polidea.pl/

y5 seems a good little app, will try it out this evening, thanks for the tip stingerpl

setting profiles its the app im trying too setup
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watercool said:
thx, but i think both apps use GPS for the Location which drains the battery again
A Simple:
If wifi XXX is out of range for more than 5 minutes -> turn off wifi
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Well both have the option of using GPS but it can work just fine with cell triangulation. If your GPS is off it can work just fine based only on approximation from GSM towers, similar to what Google Maps does for the "My Location" feature.

Guitarfreak26 said:
setting profiles its the app im trying too setup
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Well if you want it to turn off WIFI when your leaving home and get out of reach of your WIFI you do the following:
1. Press "locations" and press the menu button and press "New location". Choose "Wi-Fi AP Identified" and put a mark where it says the name of you WiFI at home. and name it like "Home"
2. Now press the profiles button and create 2 profiles. First one you can call "At Home" and set it up like you want you telefon with WiFi enabled and so on when your at home.
Next create another profile and call it something like " Away from Home" and set it up with WiFi disabled and so on like you want it.
3. Now press the "Rules" button and press menu again and create a new rule.
Again press "Menu" and then "Add condition" and choose location you just created before.
Now press Menu and choose "add action" and choose "Activate profile" and choose the profile "At Home" that you created before.
4. Now press the "Rules" button and press menu again and create a new rule.
Again press "Menu" and then "Add condition" and choose location you just created before. But this time put a mark in "Inverse condition logic"
Now press Menu and choose "add action" and choose "Activate profile" and choose the profile "Away from Home" that you created before.
Now your telefon is set to turn off Wifi and what else you want off when you leave reach of your network at home and also it is set to turn back WiFi on when you get back home in reach of your network.
Simple once you learn the logic of setting up profiles and so on. And extremely powerfull as you can basicly set and rule and action for anything you want and get it to do anything you want.
Hope that helped a bit.

Ahh i see.. Ive set that up..
Now i need to figure a way to turn bluetooth on when im in the car lol...

thyttel said:
Well if you want it to turn off WIFI when your leaving home and get out of reach of your WIFI you do the following:
1. Press "locations" and press the menu button and press "New location". Choose "Wi-Fi AP Identified" and put a mark where it says the name of you WiFI at home. and name it like "Home"
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That isn't going to work, when coming back from 'Away from Home' the wifi is in an off state therefore it won't detect that it is back in the home wifi range.
You need to set-up lon/lat for the wifi to turn back on again.

Ive set it up with location.. surely tht needs gps on tho?

Guitarfreak26 said:
Ive set it up with location.. surely tht needs gps on tho?
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No, I think it works out your location using the mobile network masts

I thought the HTC desire switched over to the 3G network when out of range of the wifi anyway.
How do you know for sure that it continues scanning for a wireless network?
And if this is certain, does it do this only when the phone is on and not in stand-by?

I think the best way to approach this is something like Nokia have.
Get the networks (wifi or 3g) in order of preference to connect. Then when sync is need if you have wifi network in a major priority of an 3g, the phone try to connect first to the wifi, if not in range go to 3g.

i downloaded the y5 app form the market and used it for a full day, i say it works amazing like how you want it...
at first i thought it was not working because when i was out of range, the wifi didnt turn off...but i found out why
when you first got your y5 app, open it and it will auto remember your wifi AP(if you are connected to the wifi AP when opening the app)
ok now the tricky part is setting it to turn off, you have to go out of range from the wifi(just go out the house until there is clearly no signal), then manually turn off the wireless.....
ok now go back into the wifi range, voila it will turn itself back on! and go away from it, will turn wifi off!
=D tried and tested....
ps: if you dont manually turn it off when you go out of range for the first time, it somehow wont auto turn wifi off after that......for me at least...

Does it have to be automatic? ToggleWifi shows a not connected icon in the topbar when you have wifi on and not connected. And it is not a widget, so you can customize the icon for wifi (which acts as a wifi toggle)

msc4985 said:
I thought the HTC desire switched over to the 3G network when out of range of the wifi anyway.
How do you know for sure that it continues scanning for a wireless network?
And if this is certain, does it do this only when the phone is on and not in stand-by?
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- cause i get a notification when an open wifi is awailable, and in addition, how should the phone know that i am at home without scanning (and do an auto connect)?
- second is true, i set at the wifi-policies that wifi is turned off when in standby

How to decide - wifi or 3G?

I have been trying to figure out a way to choose wifi or 3G when i want to surf. For instance if i click on the intrrnet app and it should give me an option, to surf through a wifi or 3G service.
What happens now is that it just connects difrectly but i do not now which service it is connected to. How do i achieve this option or at least get the option to surf through eithet wifi or 3G?

If you don't know what connection it uses you should at least read the manual or find out the icons from somewhere else.
Have you set up wifi in the settings? If there is no wifi available I believe it uses 3g automatically.
There is widgets to turn connections on/off.

ebue said:
I have been trying to figure out a way to choose wifi or 3G when i want to surf. For instance if i click on the intrrnet app and it should give me an option, to surf through a wifi or 3G service.
What happens now is that it just connects difrectly but i do not now which service it is connected to. How do i achieve this option or at least get the option to surf through eithet wifi or 3G?
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That would be quite annoying to get the pop up everytime you open the internet up. It uses whatever connection you have active. If you have wifi and 3G on, and you are on a wifi network then wifi will override the 3G (and save you battery in the process). If you have 3G on and wifi off, 3G will be used. However, if you have no connection, a popup does come up saying "please connect to a wifi network" when you click the box, it brings you to the wifi settings, where you don't have to hit a single button and it will turn wifi on and bring you right back to the page where you were (honestly, this might be different across firmwares, but if you don't have it then expect it in the 2.2 update).
So, how to fix the problem you have, I have two recommendations for you:
1) QuickDesk, it's a UI screen that will pop-up over any program you have running without exiting the program (even games). Double-click of home button will allow you to access 1 page of apps (such as a wifi on off switch or power control widget...see below)
2) Power control widget, or at least a wifi on/off toggle switch. Before I had an always on 3G this was a widget I never lived without. I'd have wifi off 3/4 of the day and 3G on 95% of the day, meaning if I wanted to connect to the internet I wanted something easy and simple to use... a simple wifi on/off toggle will work. I would sometimes forget to switch 3G off when I'd get home and half way through looking at web pages I'd think about it, so I'd double click home, find power control widget and activate wifi to override the 3G connection as I originally described.
Hope that helps.

alovell83 said:
That would be quite annoying to get the pop up everytime you open the internet up. It uses whatever connection you have active. If you have wifi and 3G on, and you are on a wifi network then wifi will override the 3G (and save you battery in the process). If you have 3G on and wifi off, 3G will be used. However, if you have no connection, a popup does come up saying "please connect to a wifi network" when you click the box, it brings you to the wifi settings, where you don't have to hit a single button and it will turn wifi on and bring you right back to the page where you were (honestly, this might be different across firmwares, but if you don't have it then expect it in the 2.2 update).
So, how to fix the problem you have, I have two recommendations for you:
1) QuickDesk, it's a UI screen that will pop-up over any program you have running without exiting the program (even games). Double-click of home button will allow you to access 1 page of apps (such as a wifi on off switch or power control widget...see below)
2) Power control widget, or at least a wifi on/off toggle switch. Before I had an always on 3G this was a widget I never lived without. I'd have wifi off 3/4 of the day and 3G on 95% of the day, meaning if I wanted to connect to the internet I wanted something easy and simple to use... a simple wifi on/off toggle will work. I would sometimes forget to switch 3G off when I'd get home and half way through looking at web pages I'd think about it, so I'd double click home, find power control widget and activate wifi to override the 3G connection as I originally described.
Hope that helps.
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Thanks. Thats the answer I was looking for. I have both services activated and they are active in the bar at the top of the screen; that is why I asked to see which one was actually being used in this case. So if both are on then Wifi takes perference over the 3G? Good to know this. I take it I can ger this on/off widget in the Market. I'll see if I can download it. The widget method sounds better.
BTW, just checked out the Market and there are quite a few. Any particular one that you guys recommend or just any will do-? I just downloaded the one by Curvefish
Now looking for one to turn off the 3G.

I think power control widget comes out of the box long press on your screen and go to widgets to look for it. As far as 3g goes you should be able to program a shortcut instead. Long press then access settings which should bring you to individual settings you can program like 3g toggle...ank program off the market will do just fine but I prefer to not give access to my phone unless necessary.

when both WiFi and 3G/H are ON
it will by default use WiFi
if WiFi fails or signal is poor, it will automatically switch to 3G/H
you will see the icon at the top of the status bar
ebue said:
I have been trying to figure out a way to choose wifi or 3G when i want to surf. For instance if i click on the intrrnet app and it should give me an option, to surf through a wifi or 3G service.
What happens now is that it just connects difrectly but i do not now which service it is connected to. How do i achieve this option or at least get the option to surf through eithet wifi or 3G?
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You can force the phone to only use WiFi if you install this App
APN on-off Widget http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765081

Thank you guys for the good info. I am in the process of downloading some maps and it is really going well. Got something like 165KB/s so far.

3G Problem with SGS

I am using APNdroid app for switching data connection from WIFI to 3G. However, I need to restart the phone every time to make it work.
Is this normal ? or Is there anyway we can fix it? I have searched through all the threads but didn't get much info.
Your help is much appreciated.

Not the answer to your question, but if you turn off 3G *only* when you turn on Wi-Fi, you don't have to do anything. While connected to Wi-Fi the data connection isn't on.

If you leave 3G on, Wifi (when enabled and connected) will disable 3G. Also superpower (in the app store) will turn off wifi and 3g when the screen is off. I also recommend Power Control Plus which provides a widget in which you can customize each button and toggle 3G and Wifi on the fly.

Thanks for the replies guys...To be more specific on the problem , I don't have any issue while I am on wifi its only when I switch to 3G...i tried beautiful widgets also ...looks like the problem is with phone rather than app
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switching wcdma to gsm gives problems here too, .. so i wont!