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I wanna start off by saying thank you to everyone who helps make this forum such an amazing resource.
The question I have is I bought a Cingular branded 8525 about three months ago and it has been giving me nothing but trouble, from my keyboard randomly not working, none of the front or side buttons working, keyboard lights not working, secondary characters on the keyboard being all scrambled, and the newest addition the phone not vibrating at all. It is still under warranty but the problem is that I don't and never had ATT and i've been using the phoen unlocked. Its still under warranty with HTC and they've already tried to repair it, I think they said they replaced the main board but more and more issues keep coming up. What i'm wondering is if there is anyway to get ATT to just replace the phone like they would do for a regular ATT customer? Has anyone been successful in this? I've tried calling them but they keep saying that since I dont have an account with them they can't help me out.
Any help or guidance would be really great!!
Thanks in advanced
BUMP.... can anyone give me any advice?
unfortunately, that's the risk you take when you buy a 3rd party phone. They'll warranty it for THEIR customers. I've been successful buying an 8525 on fleabay and getting them to honor the warranty ( 4 times ), but I'm also an ATT customer. The phone was not released to Non-customers, so they won't talk to you if you're not a customer. It's nothing personal, It's just the way it is.
Hiya
I bought a Touch HD off ebay which was an orange original unit but was unlocked so I could use any sim in it. However, two weeks into buying it and it started to vibrate as soon as I switched it on. I contacted HTC who replaced the whole of the internal boards and sent it back to me. i got it back this morning and now its asking me for a sim unlock code??? I get a white screen saying the network is locked and a long box in which to put an unlock code.
Is there any way I can re-unlock the phone without putting this code back in or do you think I'm going to have to ask HTC for a code???
thank you very much for any advice given
Bessy regs
Kenny
Well first of all, all Touch HD's vibrate when they are switched on, but I assume you mean it kept doing it and wouldn't stop with yours or something. And secondly I'm sure HTC won't give you an unlock code to re-unlock your phone as you say it is an Orange branded device, but it's worth asking them. If they won't help you then your only options are to take it to a shop to have it unlocked, or do it yourself at home via one of the many unlock websites. You'll have to pay for these options though.
Hiya
thanks for the reply
Ive sussed that it is indeed been relocked back to orange. The have apparently sent me a new replacement phone so I will have to get it unlocked( tried an orange cheepo sim this morning and didnt get the request for a code)
I cant believe I didnt think about it properly but Im that up to my eye balls with assignments and essays for uni my mind has been all over the place this past few weeks LOL
I was wondering if the unlock software from Oilpro might do the trick. Ive priced locally and it means being without the phone for four days and paying......35 quid to unlock it.
Back in the day when I had my SP3100 the software was free but I realise that I havent been a really active member on the forum- mainly because you guys are so damned brainy and I dont feel I have anything to contribute like you do. Give me a camera and I can talk for days( am a tog doing a ba hons degree in photography) but phones and techy stuff about roms....well, Im at a loss. Maybe thats a course I should take next LOL
anyway, thank you for the reply. Much appreciated.
I'll try to find somewhere to get the unlock software at a reasonable price.
Bessy regs
Kenny
forgot to say that it did indeed vibrate all the time when switched on( and got damned hot too) but that has now been sorted with a new phone.....
I did the OliPro way and it was easy to do. One of the cheapest options too I think.
Just tried to buy the unlock software from oliopro's site and tried to use paypal and it wont let me pay via that method. Its asking me to create an account and give my credit card details...
I'm not willing to give any details like that ATM and my money is tied up in a paypal account too.
If Oliopro is reading this any help gratefully received.
Bessy regs
Kenny
I swapped my Vibrant out at BestBuy with one that has Download/Recovery mode, so its now time to play.
Which lag fix and root procedures work with the Bell Vibrant? Also which Firmware is compatible?
AllGamer...since you seem to be the "guy" to talk to about the Bell Vibrant, do you want to start a sticky thread, one that lays out which fixes/root/firmwares are compatible with our phone?
i will be buying a Bell Vibrant very soon, so i just wan to know how can you tell it has the recovery feature?
Hold down Home+VolumeDown+Power. It will boot up into a screen with a yellow yield sign and say "Download mode".
Mine doesn't have it so im going back to exchange.
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Want to hear a funny story?
I was in my Bell store today, seeing if they had any accessories in for the Vibrant yet. My sales rep was there, and we started talking about the device, unlocking, modding, etc.
He mentioned they had five returns since Monday regarding the download and recovery mode issue they swapped out on the DOA plan. Guess there's a lot of modders in the downtown Vancouver area.
I asked him if they still had any of those returns, he said yep, they had all of them, they hadn't been processed out of the store yet. He brought a couple out, and I fired them up, did the download keypress and fired them up. Repeated this process for four working phones in total, the fifth was well and truly dead.
Guess what?
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WENT INTO DOWNLOAD MODE.
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
So did all the demonstration models.
I'll leave it to you to figure out the moral of this story.
Croak said:
Want to hear a funny story?
I was in my Bell store today, seeing if they had any accessories in for the Vibrant yet. My sales rep was there, and we started talking about the device, unlocking, modding, etc.
He mentioned they had five returns since Monday regarding the download and recovery mode issue they swapped out on the DOA plan. Guess there's a lot of modders in the downtown Vancouver area.
I asked him if they still had any of those returns, he said yep, they had all of them, they hadn't been processed out of the store yet. He brought a couple out, and I fired them up, did the download keypress and fired them up. Repeated this process for four working phones in total, the fifth was well and truly dead.
Guess what?
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WENT INTO DOWNLOAD MODE.
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
So did all the demonstration models.
I'll leave it to you to figure out the moral of this story.
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Maybe some people don't know how to do it properly, but when I was bringing my SGS in for replacement, I had no problems popping the demo phone into recovery and download modes Just wouldn't work with mine and the one they let me try out of the box. Ended up heading to Future Shop and couldn't get either of their 2 available phones to work.
Hopefully local stores have got another batch in stock.
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Maybe some people don't know how to do it properly, but when I was bringing my SGS in for replacement, I had no problems popping the demo phone into recovery and download modes Just wouldn't work with mine and the one they let me try out of the box. Ended up heading to Future Shop and couldn't get either of their 2 available phones to work.
Hopefully local stores have got another batch in stock.
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what is the exact process to initiate the bootloader mode?
aquenne said:
what is the exact process to initiate the bootloader mode?
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Pwr+Home+Vol- for download, switch vol+ and vol- for recovery. Power on with all 3 kept pressed, then let go of the pwr button before it loops another reboot. Or at least that's how I did it.
It took me a few tries to get it to work.
Now I don't have a problem.
I'm sure all those returns will simply go into the exchange pile.
This phone is freaking sweet !
DarthV said:
Pwr+Home+Vol- for download, switch vol+ and vol- for recovery. Power on with all 3 kept pressed, then let go of the pwr button before it loops another reboot. Or at least that's how I did it.
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Ah i see. mine is working.
Coming from an HTC Touch, the key difference is you could initiate the bootloader mode WHILE the phone was running. This process requires the phone to first be off.
there are 2 topics in the Dev section with the undate.zip to root your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748131
arr0ww said:
I swapped my Vibrant out at BestBuy with one that has Download/Recovery mode, so its now time to play.
Which lag fix and root procedures work with the Bell Vibrant? Also which Firmware is compatible?
AllGamer...since you seem to be the "guy" to talk to about the Bell Vibrant, do you want to start a sticky thread, one that lays out which fixes/root/firmwares are compatible with our phone?
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Talking about how to activate the recovery/download thing. What I read (and what worked for me) was when the samsung logo appears on screen, let go of the power button for like half a second then hold it again. Worked flawlessly for me!
I rooted mine in-store while waiting for the paperwork to be finished.
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there are 2 topics in the Dev section with the undate.zip to root your phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748131
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I just rooted and installed the "OneClick Lag Fix 2-3. 2181 Quadrant score...holy crap this thing flies now!!!
Bell vibrant doesnt have recovery mode any suggestions???
Hi guys I think im writing in the right section. I just got an unlocked bell vibrant and cant enter recovery mode can anyone suggest a solution I cant stand this Lag!
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Hi guys I think im writing in the right section. I just got an unlocked bell vibrant and cant enter recovery mode can anyone suggest a solution I cant stand this Lag!
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you should have opened a new topic, instead of lapping onto another one.
lag fix has nothing to do with the recovery mode
you can install the lag fix without being able to get into recovery mode
does that answer your question?
I'm starting a new thread because it doesn't necessarily fall in to unlocking of the phone (as I've been asked).
I'm guessing any new purchases of this phone will have the recovery/download 3 button combo feature completely disabled.
The reason why I say this is that I've been to 5 different stores between yesterday and today (with the most recent one having a stock amount of 9 phones) and here are my findings:
Every single boxed up phone has the feature disabled. (All I did was have them install the battery (no sim or anything) and pass the phone to me).
However, every one of those 5 stores that I went to, I did it flawlessly on their demo phones.
So my guess is, as the demo phones would have been the first batch Bell provided (and some being on display before any actual product released to the public), all subsequent batches of these phones will have this feature disabled.
I went to 2 different best buys that have ample stock of the phones because it is onsale this week, and none of them worked... nor did they work at the future shop I attended or the 2 bell stores (including the one I purchased and returned initially).
But every single demo did.
So if anyone got their hands on the very first batch of phones and it works then you're a lucky one. For the rest of us, I think we are S.O.L.
There's got to be a way to do it... Anyone know a Bell Representative or better yet a person inside samsung that will leak that info to you?
Heck I don't even want to unlock the phone. I'll stay on Bell's network, I just want to be able to load new versions of Android without any risk of bricking my phone.
Thank you! It was annoying reading all those posts abt this in that thread.
And I'm not too sure that the new phones don't have it. There have been a few people on the thread that have said that they got the phone at launch, and it didn't have the feature, but when they went to return it and get a new one (from the new shipment) it was fine...
So really I dont think its very easy to tell if its gonna work or not...
I think I'll wait til september to buy the phone.
I don't care too much about custom roms and the like, the stock one is fine, but Bell has a history (See the i7500L) of not updating their firmwares in a timely fashion. The i7500L is still on 1.5. Terrible if you ask me, considering the "open-source" feel of android.
So there are rumours, I don't know if its true or not, that bell is going to have an official 2.2 update in september. Maybe then I'll buy it and by then all phones will have the 3 button combo on them.
I just went to a local future shop here, and the phone representative contacted their Bell Rep, who was at another store, he couldn't do it on the phones they had there, but promised to call Samsung on Monday to find out if their is an alternate way.
Maybe you have to hit a reset button along with it. I remember doing something similar on my old HTC diamond phone, maybe this is the same thing (sort of).
Too bad, I loved this phone all the 4 days I had it (up until reading about the 3 button combo). I sort of miss it.
I just put a call in to Samsung to find out why some work and some don't, they said because the phone was so new that I had to call a number specifically set up for support on the Galaxy S but they are only open Monday to friday..
So hopefully with all this calling around I'm doing something will be figured out.
I got my Vibrant on launch day, 3 button combo didn't work. Swapped it out for a new one, from a new shipment last Thursday (august 12th) 3 button combo works.
arr0ww,
Can you confirm what i've been reading on wiki then?
It states:
"Note: There are many Bell I9000M floating around with this feature disabled, without the Download Mode enable you wont be able to restore from a failed firmware flash. We highly recommend you to take it back and exchange it for a model that can work properly with the 3 button combination. The first batch from around Aug 5 or Serial # ending with 6000000 have the 3 buttons combo disabled, the new batch after Aug 11 with Serial # ending with 6500000 have the working 3 buttons.
example of full Serial # 89302610202006500000"
Do your last 7 digits end with 65 and not 60?
Also, where did you get yours exactly? I think if its close to me, I'll just pop by that store and get it (assuming your somewhere in the GTA).
I got mine first thing Launch morning. My serial is 59XXXXX. 3 button combo IS working.
it shouldn't be hard to fix the issue. from what i've read, and people have said, the 3-button combo is written into the SPL part (256kb) part of the Nand. all we would theoretically have to do is flash our SPL with some else's 3-button enabled SPL. now two of my friends bought their phones same day as me, and have theirs enabled, and both are rooted, so it's not hard to get our hands on a copy.
i have posted another thread in the software technical section about this and haven't gotten any replies (maybe it's the wrong section). the g1 users flash their spl, but they don't talk about how to make an image of the current spl. so i'm stuck here. i know it can be done, just don't know how yet.
apparently nandroid backup doesn't backup the spl, so that's useless to us. from the SPL backup kit for the g1 users, i read the batch file, and it reads specific hex addresses in the nand and writes them to a file, but i would assume these addresses are different for our nand. so once again, useless.
For all those that have their 3 button disabled... can you confirm if your serial ends with 60XXXXX? Maybe its limited to just that batch of s/n's.
As for wang1chung.. hopefully its a simple fix.. but i'll refuse to buy one again unless I get one that is confirmed working or easily fixable to get it working without a cable.
Thanks
Electroz said:
I got mine first thing Launch morning. My serial is 59XXXXX. 3 button combo IS working.
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it is possible the bug was only in the batch with numbers ending in 60xxxxxxxx
since the ones on 59xxxxxxxx works, and 65xxxxxxxx works
that seems to be the logical sense
this would be nice
problem is, no one has been able to get a way to extract, and flash back the good SPL to the bad phones
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it shouldn't be hard to fix the issue. from what i've read, and people have said, the 3-button combo is written into the SPL part (256kb) part of the Nand. all we would theoretically have to do is flash our SPL with some else's 3-button enabled SPL. now two of my friends bought their phones same day as me, and have theirs enabled, and both are rooted, so it's not hard to get our hands on a copy.
i have posted another thread in the software technical section about this and haven't gotten any replies (maybe it's the wrong section). the g1 users flash their spl, but they don't talk about how to make an image of the current spl. so i'm stuck here. i know it can be done, just don't know how yet.
apparently nandroid backup doesn't backup the spl, so that's useless to us. from the SPL backup kit for the g1 users, i read the batch file, and it reads specific hex addresses in the nand and writes them to a file, but i would assume these addresses are different for our nand. so once again, useless.
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Hey guys, are you still able to start in recovery mode with a cable and ADB. I would like to know cause my G-sensor is dead and I went to Best Buy to exchange it and the phones were all lacking this mode.
I didn't swap ysterday because of this but I have to do something before aug. 20. After that I will have to see with bell what they want to do and it will surely go for a repair. I would prefer to have a new one working right away but the lack of recovery mode is discouraging me.
my s/n is 52xxxxx and 3button is disabled
sp991, recovery mode is still accessible via adb to those with the 3button disabled.
allgamer, i only suggested that as no one else had suggested anything else? i assumed it would be possible since the g1 users can read their spl via the command " pmemdump -a 0x8c000000 0x40000 " and save it to a .nb file to update later. maybe this would be better accomplished in the hands of talented coders/developers.
Mine is 64xxxxx and it is disabled.
adb works.
I exchanged my first i9000m coz the download mode wasn't working.
The second one I got two days ago goes into download/recovery mode without problem!! This one has IMEI ending with 65xxxxxx and manufactured in Aug.
I also tested new one at Bell store today which had IMEI # 65xxxx as well, but it didnt go into download mode. The guy at the store said it was the newest batch as they received it yesterday, and now i'm totally confused....coz I thought all newer batchs are download mode enalbed..
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Hey guys, are you still able to start in recovery mode with a cable and ADB. I would like to know cause my G-sensor is dead and I went to Best Buy to exchange it and the phones were all lacking this mode.
I didn't swap ysterday because of this but I have to do something before aug. 20. After that I will have to see with bell what they want to do and it will surely go for a repair. I would prefer to have a new one working right away but the lack of recovery mode is discouraging me.
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do you have any other best buy store that you can go to?
try testing with the Download mode, it's easier than testing with the Repair mode
the Download mode kicks in right away, after you put in the battery, and do the 3 button test
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/Vibrant_GT-I9000M
check the wiki for some visuals
you can do it even with the plastic back and screen protector on top
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Mine is 64xxxxx and it is disabled.
adb works.
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ADB will always work, but it's useless if it gets bricked
good to know 64xxxxxxxx is not good
so i guess batches between 60xxxxxxxx to 64xxxxxxx are bad?
since the 59xxxxxxxx were good, and 65xxxxxxxxxx are also good
karakake said:
I exchanged my first i9000m coz the download mode wasn't working.
The second one I got two days ago goes into download/recovery mode without problem!! This one has IMEI ending with 65xxxxxx and manufactured in Aug.
I also tested new one at Bell store today which had IMEI # 65xxxx as well, but it didnt go into download mode. The guy at the store said it was the newest batch as they received it yesterday, and now i'm totally confused....coz I thought all newer batchs are download mode enalbed..
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that's exactly what we are trying to find out, to see if there is any pattern
but if the one you tested with 65xxxxxxxxxxx didn't work, then i guess we can't really identify it via the serials numbers, and only can be tested manually.
Try downloading the new firmware for bell the JH2 that you can download via Kies this might fix the 3 button combo for people have issues. as the recovery screen is a bit different. give your a warning now that you have entered the system menu. the old recovery screen did not have this.
Someone that can't get into recovery should try this update..
no dice, just updated
EDIT: what's worse is i thought it would've at least helped with the gps lag, and now i can't find my location at all. under the gps performance testing option, i can't pickup any satellites whatsoever.
i'm pissed now, as i needed it to go on a roadtrip tomorrow
So I have a bell vibrant, however because of reasons not important here I got out of my 3 year contract with bell and I still have the phone. So I sign up with rogers, unlock the phone with a samsung app from the market, enter the APN settings and away I go. All is well for a few days. I try to use it and see it is frozen, i remove the battery and reboot. But it won't. Just says samsung and turns off. So I read and read here for several hours. I download what I believe to be the stock rom (labelled true stock) not caring if it is tmobile or bell or whoever as I will just change the settings (I'm more concerned with the phone working, figuring I can locate a better flash etc if required later) I use Odin, now the screen comes on says VIBRANT, samsung... and shuts off. I've tried EVERY button combo possible and cannot get the phone into download mode or ANY mode. Just that screen and off. If this problem is already here I do apologize but I have been reading and reading and I'm stuck. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
i have noticed that the Tmobile vibrant doesn't have the same button layout as the bell vibrant... soooo..... please tell me this phone isnt garbage.
You might want to try the galaxy s forum. I think that has the same buttons as yours. Have you tried pulling the battery and putting it back in then holding volume up + down and inserting the USB cable (while holding the volume buttons) if this doesn't work I honestly don't know if your phone phone can be restored. But the international users would probably be more helpful than I am.
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I've tried every button combo. Best part.. the phone is new but since I'm out of contract with bell they wont service it... and because I didnt get the phone from rogers they wont service it..... I contacted samsung directly and are telling me to go to rogers. Only good news is i'll eventually get samsung to fix it but it gives me an excuse as to why i tried to fix it myself. I haven't posted in the other forum, didn't want to post in both places at once. But I will now... thanks.