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Looking for a startup/task manager. It doesn't have to be 2 in 1 manager, it can be 2 different apps.
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Well, I use Startup Auditor, not sure if it really works, but at least it gives me the illusion of having more control over the phone ;-)
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+ there is no task manager needed for android OS, because it's pretty good when it comes to handling memory..
for killing a task that crashed but won't FC I use Android System Info's task manager, but ONLY in that case! You really don't need a task manager at all, it can even slow down your phone, google that if you want to have more info or verify it Android ain't Blackberry OS or Windows Mobile ;-)
Anyone have any suggestion for the most effective task manager/killer. I'm using es task manager at the moment but it won't close certain apps lik internet browser. Thanks in advance.
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Most people will tell you not to use them. I use automatic task killer. Has a blue box with colored pieces as the icon. Be carefull what you kill with it. I have it kill when my phone screen is turned off. No opening apps hitting buttons....just pick what you want killed and it does it for you.
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I did the grey blur Rom, loving it, but when it got rid of all the bloatware it got rid of my task killer. The one with auto end list. Anyone know how I can attain that again?
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^looking for that too, he means to Task Manager that was on the stock rom.
What for? Read up on task killers.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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I use it to kill a few rogue apps that don't like to turn off and destroy my battery, like Navigon.
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What for? Read up on task killers.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
Ok, just looked and I am running Greyblur and it has the stock task killer still there. Also on the gingerblur thread or site they have a zip file of stick bloatware, could be there.
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^ *sigh* There's still a need for it from time to time. That's why it was included in the original ROM, and even my Samsung has it too.
OP, you're stuck with "force stop" or you can download this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=biz.stachibana.FroyoTaskKiller
^ which basically does the same thing as "force stop" but it saves you a few steps to get there, plus it lets you know what apps are also running (which is nice to know in case you need to single out a rogue app on your phone).
It's not as good as the stock task killer, but it will stop any app and sniff out the rogue ones.
Hope that helps...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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No problem, I'm just tired of Task Killer topics that sometimes end up in flame wars...
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Was asking a serious question, I have the same phone without the need so I was curious as to what apps are going nuts on their phones....as far as the read up on task killers comment, I was just giving general advise so they are not sweating it if they assumed they needed it.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
Most good task managers will help kill those apps and have the option to put certain apps on an exclude to kill list, which gives you control of what is running and what is not. A good way to figure things out is to kill all your running apps in the task manager and see what will restart. You can put the ones you want and need running, such as widgets and apps that get updates, on an exclude to kill list...that helps with the whole "battery drains because app keeps having to restart" argument as to why task managers are "bad." I use Autostarts to prevent apps i don't want running from starting for useless reasons and Advanced Task Manager to force close ones when I don't need them any longer. However, there is a learning curve as to what you shutdown or prevent from running, as it may affect other apps.
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If you download Autostarts or AutoRun Manager, you'll see apps that restart or start for such asinine reasons. After powering up or rebooting, many apps are set to startup even if you don't use them often. For example, the eBay app will start in the background for such system events as "Application Replaced" or "External apps available". So when I insert my microSD card and I have some .apks backed up on it by Astro, why should the eBay app start up in the background because the media scanner detected there are apks. Don't get me started on Google Maps, there are all sorts of crap that it starts for. I only want GoogleMaps running when I need it running, not when I install a new app or if I unistall an app or replace an app. While it might be great to have an instant lock on my location so I can instantly add to Latitude(which I don't use), it kinda sucks that I'll also be grabbing my charger sooner since it's running in the background.
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That's the only thing that I miss about Eclair, you could truly lock that sh*t down... *sigh*
Well, I just got my new SGS II and noticed that on both the stock Bell firmware (KG3) and the most recent KH3 that the messaging app stays open (as per the Program Monitor widget). I have searched without finding any result. Anyone else notice this and / or have a fix?
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It does, unfortunately I noticed this too but it uses little resource. It is annoying to see the open applications count as "one" when you have finished!
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Well, I just got my new SGS II and noticed that on both the stock Bell firmware (KG3) and the most recent KH3 that the messaging app stays open (as per the Program Monitor widget). I have searched without finding any result. Anyone else notice this and / or have a fix?
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Apps like messaging and internet stay in the background even after you close it,because these apps are frequently used and they load faster the next time you use it,but dont worry the android OS will kill them eventually
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I waited a long time and the Messaging application never actually closed.
I suspect it is a similar bug to the Contacts issue I had with Froyo where the application remained open. This was later fixed in Gingerbread...
Does anyone else see Messaging remain open in the Program Monitor widget?
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I waited a long time and the Messaging application never actually closed.
I suspect it is a similar bug to the Contacts issue I had with Froyo where the application remained open. This was later fixed in Gingerbread...
Does anyone else see Messaging remain open in the Program Monitor widget?
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It stays open for me also, If and when the resources get low enough it should close but since we have so much ram i don't think it will ever close. It doesn't really bother me.
Stop using task killers. The android os does not work like windows that relies on free memory. It keeps apps in memory so that they can be instantly opened later. Some system processes will even be started again after you close them.
If a program is in memory but not used for a while it will be flagged to be removed if another app needs more memory. Just because an app is in memory does not mean it is using your CPU.
You are wasting more battery by killing things that you will use again or that the system will restart anyway. This phone has a lot of memory, let the phone use it!
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devilkin said:
Stop using task killers. The android os does not work like windows that relies on free memory. It keeps apps in memory so that they can be instantly opened later. Some system processes will even be started again after you close them.
If a program is in memory but not used for a while it will be flagged to be removed if another app needs more memory. Just because an app is in memory does not mean it is using your CPU.
You are wasting more battery by killing things that you will use again or that the system will restart anyway. This phone has a lot of memory, let the phone use it!
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Thsnks for your reply; but, I am not using a task killer...
I am just wondering why the stock messaging application is displayed in the Program Monitor once exiting via the back button. Is it a known bug? Also, is there any way to fix it besides killing it or using another messaging app like Handcent?
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Thsnks for your reply; but, I am not using a task killer...
I am just wondering why the stock messaging application is displayed in the Program Monitor once exiting via the back button. Is it a known bug? Also, is there any way to fix it besides killing it or using another messaging app like Handcent?
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Known bug, it's not a bug, it's a feature,
Your phone has almost 1 Gig of ram, why would you want to micro manage what apps use the ram, has your phone ever run out of ram, has your phone slowed down, does it lag, do you attribute this lag (if there is any) to the messaging app running in the background???
when I replaced my messaging app using stock sms app, then the bug/feature went away
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Known bug, it's not a bug, it's a feature,
Your phone has almost 1 Gig of ram, why would you want to micro manage what apps use the ram, has your phone ever run out of ram, has your phone slowed down, does it lag, do you attribute this lag (if there is any) to the messaging app running in the background???
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I am not sure why, really. All I am looking for is to have the Program Monitor display 0 instead of a 1...
I am famous for leaving unused tasks open and like to monitor for them using that widget. If I understand correctly running tasks consume CPU which, in turn, drains the battery.
I have noticed that the messaging app is not in the Battery usage list; so, at this point it is an annoyance more than anything...
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kryptoner said:
when I replaced my messaging app using stock sms app, then the bug/feature went away
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Interesting. Can you explain this in more detail?
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Interesting. Can you explain this in more detail?
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I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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Thanks. I tried it and you are right. I ended up reverting though. Going to look into it more if/when I find time.
Hopefully it is not the same in the next firmware release; but, for now, it is only an annoyance.
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Advanced task killer
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Advanced task killer
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No, dont use task killers. If anything, it only eats more resources. Android keeps those apps open for a reason, when you open it next time its quicker and actually needs to use less resources. Free memory= useless memory, If there is an app which needs more memory (like a game) android will automatically kill "suspended" apps on background to free up memory. And when you finish playing it will restore those apps again. Killing it with force only causes the app to restart again and again and again and again.... Even windows does it (a little bit differently though).
And if you really want to have control over your processes in background, use watchdog which will warn you if theres an app eating resources in the background.
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No, dont use task killers. If anything, it only eats more resources. Android keeps those apps open for a reason, when you open it next time its quicker and actually needs to use less resources. Free memory= useless memory, If there is an app which needs more memory (like a game) android will automatically kill "suspended" apps on background to free up memory. And when you finish playing it will restore those apps again. Killing it with force only causes the app to restart again and again and again and again.... Even windows does it (a little bit differently though).
And if you really want to have control over your processes in background, use watchdog which will warn you if theres an app eating resources in the background.
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I am running Watchdog app now & previously monitored the Battery Usage app and show no messaging application displayed. So, it is just an annoyance for me...
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I downloaded messaging Google stock app from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16699746&postcount=1
then I put it in system/app folder using root explorer and installed it, i deleted old messaging app...
now whenever I exit messaging using back button and open task manager, I don't see messaging app in active tasks...
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copied the sms app in the system/app folder, but when i try to install it, it says couldn`t install application
Can any1 point me to a task killer which will force kill apps.I am talking about something like the one click task kill in Lewaos rom status bar. Most task killers I have tried only kill apps and those apps come up again automatically. Please help me
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Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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rishabho1 said:
Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
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This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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rishabho1 said:
Free ram is waste ram don't use taskillers
If you then also want that sh*** go for taskiller full in playstore
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onepinksheep said:
This. Your phone is not like your PC, so stop treating it like one. The way Android treats memory, having high RAM usage is actually a good thing. Not to mention that aside from being useless and counterproductive, task killers are a huge battery drain.
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Okay okay!! Just chill. No need to get that aggressive on this topic. On my phone apps like facebook, friendcaster
etc keep draining battery.Now don't say these r useless too and I should stop using them. I know how android works with Ram and all that. Have been using this fone for over 18 months. I just want to know about dat kind of taskiller
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Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
onepinksheep said:
Well, if battery drain is your problem, then don't use a task killer -- that'll just be compounding the issue. As for how to deal with your battery drain, I've heard some reports about how turning off Facebook sync worked for some people.
Another option would be getting Watchdog Task Manager by Zomut from the Play Store (I've used it myself). It's not the typical task killer since rather than monitoring RAM, it instead keeps an eye on CPU usage (which is what causes battery drain) and notifies you when an app consumes too many CPU cycles and let's you decide whether to kill that app. It should also allow you to set a CPU threshold for certain apps, and autokill when the app exceeds that threshold.
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That was some what helpful. Thanks
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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Yeah I should probably close the receivers for boot receiver and connectivity change
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Use super task killer widget or make a shortcut of RUNNING SERVICES to your homescreen.
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you might also give System Panel a try..available at play store
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Use Automatic Task Killer.free on gapps. U just have to select the apps u want to be killed and it kills them when ur screen is off.
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Use autostart to stop aap to run automatically in different situation.
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I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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vlt96 said:
I do this all the time, I have all possible battery draining apps and I close them with long press back button and disable their start up
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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I also did the same.long press backup button to kill and use autostart to stop automatically start.
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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dante197 said:
Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autostarts, is paid, I would honestly actually pay for it, but till then I am pirate
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
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Can u tell me an autostart app?
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Autorun Manager is a bit difficult to use for new users. u ll have to search for boot receivers and network change receivers among the receiver list for a particular app. if u disable an imp receiver then it ll forbid the app from running. so be careful. or else u can use other managers like Lidroid toolbox or Rom toolbox which are easy to use. Cheers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Nope, apps run anyway, but they won't start automatically if you disable receivers
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Once I closed a receiver of poweramp and it didn't open up
I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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timkl1 said:
I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong but I disabled "Google play" at start up through from toolbox however whenever I go back to the list it reactivates itself...
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which toolbox did u use? u should have USB debugging turned on
The whole debate surrounding task killers are stupid. Our phones have low memory and we are running custom built roms on our devices which tend to require more from our hardware in the case of ICS.
I like the ES TaskManager/File Explorer combo, has a nice task manager, autostart feature and apk backups.