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Cons and pros
Evo
pros
LCD I could go either way on
Big screen
Great community support
Sense
Cons
Hard to type
LCD
No keyboard
Epic
Pros
Super amoled
Keyboard
just the right size
Superior processor
Battery life
Cons
Bad com support
People say it feels cheaper
Touch wiz
Obviously I'm leaning towards epic but can anyone just tell me how much better it is? O and does epic have cm and snap?
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i just switched from evo to epic friday. i like the epic, the colors are better, the keyboard is awesome. youll notice the screen size diff at first but then itsfine. no CM or snap yet, just really like 3 roms out right now. but itll get better. in my opinion its ab tter switch, but ive always needed the keyboard. if youre fine without a keyboard then its not that great of a diff.
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i just switched from evo to epic friday. i like the epic, the colors are better, the keyboard is awesome. youll notice the screen size diff at first but then itsfine. no CM or snap yet, just really like 3 roms out right now. but itll get better. in my opinion its ab tter switch, but ive always needed the keyboard. if youre fine without a keyboard then its not that great of a diff.
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Yeah I figured. I really hope it gets better
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Oh nd hows the battery life? Thats my main concern
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The community support is not bad...we actually have quite a bit..its just the device has not been out as long and a lot of people are not used to HTC, most of the development now is being done by people who did development on other Samsung devices such as the Moment. The developers who came from HTC are doing things but not as quickly as they are not used to it.
That said, I usually used custom roms before but for my Epic I'm pretty happy with Stock and Root for backup and Tethering.
What do you mean by cm and snap? if cm is Cyanogen then its coming...
The battery life is OK, better if you configure Juice Defender or use energy saving Kernal and maybe kill mediahub..but stock vs stock Epic has a bit better battery then Evo
Yeah I meant cyanogen and what bout set CPU
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Yeah I meant cyanogen and what bout set CPU
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pretty sure theres a kernal thatssets it to overclock when needed. better batter life with that kernal too. ive only tried one so far so cant say bout the other one(s)
i like my epic a lot, i havent gotten a chance to experience the EVO in full yet, but i know from having the mts that htc makes some of the best quality phones. Samsung did ok on this one, as far as physical build and keyboard ill give it a 7/10. 4 inch S-AMOLED screen is crazy.. but i cant wait til sprint/htc does a similar to the epic, because that will be truly epic
I was deciding between Evo and Epic too before finally getting an Epic. To me software is something that can be improved upon but hardware is what it is and cannot be changed. Samsung's support is not on par with HTC but they've pushed 2 updates out already in the last month, so maybe there's hope. And with simple tweaks I've got GPS working nicely as well as fairly good battery life (airplan mode and disable drm). So far I've been happy with the phone and I think it'll be amazing once Froyo is out.
I'm staying with evo.. epics got problems
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I took my evo back to the store a few weeks ago and traded for an epic. I was not impressed with the hardware of the evo. I would much rather have the cpu and gpu of the epic for future games etc..
Run the ocean waves live wallpaper on the evo and see for yourself, it starts chugging and epic runs it flawless...
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I'm staying with evo.. epics got problems
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Evo has problems too..it boils down to which problems you prefer Evo problems or Epic problems (no pun intended lol)
For me personally I have no problems yet on my Epic :/
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Evo has problems too..it boils down to which problems you prefer Evo problems or Epic problems (no pun intended lol)
For me personally I have no problems yet on my Epic :/
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What problems does the EVO have these days?
From my understanding, the light leakage has been address, 30 fps caps been lifted and wifi fixed. Is there anything else?
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I'm staying with evo.. epics got problems
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iv been running my epic problem free for over a month
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What problems does the EVO have these days?
From my understanding, the light leakage has been address, 30 fps caps been lifted and wifi fixed. Is there anything else?
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Video capture is still horrible, audio doesn't sync with video at times, taking pictures with low light has not improved. If the EVO fixed that i'd still be on it. Camera sucks on the EVO.
Well, if you're still wavering... the Epic's keyboard looks nice, but IMHO it was compromised into uselessness thanks to the flat keys with almost no space in between. The problem is that I can't use my thumbs to effortlessly type on it, because I keep hitting two or more keys. Had they compromised its appearance a bit by using keys that were 2/3 as wide and long (with the same center pitch), or significantly raised the keycap centers, it would be fine. Unfortunately, they didn't, so it's not. By the same token, holding it with my left hand and using my right index finger gets tiring quickly, and the phone wobbles due to the screen's weight if I try to type on the keyboard while the phone is laying on a table.
The keyboard design of the Epic just has me shaking my head wondering whether they even bothered to test its usability with real people before committing to the design, or whether they told their designers, "make it look pretty in pictures, and keep the profile low" and decided that actual usability didn't matter.
Sigh. I can't wait for 3D printers to become cheap enough to enable things like aftermarket retrofit parts for things like the Epic that come from the factory "not quite right" by design, but could probably be hacked into comfy usability if there were a cost-effective way to make custom plastic parts in small quantities. Then someone could just make a kit that let you disassemble the lower half of a stock Epic, then reassemble the circuit board in a new bottom enclosure that made the keyboard nicer to use, and maybe added a slide-latch to lock the slider closed for added solidity when it's stowed...
I owned an evo up till the epic came out. I switched because I worked on the processor inside the epic and wanted to own something that I helped to make.
I had a lot of reservations about switching. Chief among them was the support that Samsung would give the phone. I read the horror stories about the moment, but decided to jump in.
Well two updates in I'm gonna go ahead and say that the epic is already at a point where I am as happy with it as I was with my evo. It took 5 months to get my evo to a point where the battery life was acceptable and the phone was running smooth. As of yesterday, I've resolved my battery issues (clean install of the latest update and no restoration of original settings). All this while running 2.1. I'm giddy with excitement over what 2.2 could bring.
In my opinion, people that list touchwiz as a negative simply havent experienced it for themselves. I never liked HTC sense and always preferred ASOP. That said, once you replace the touchwiz launcher (which really is pretty crappy), you're left with things that touchwiz, in my opinion, does better than sense. For one, there are the shortcuts that allow you to toggle wifi, 4g, gps and bluetooth in the dropdown notification menu. This allows you to toggle these settings in any app without exiting to the home screen. Then theres the brightness slider on the notification bar that I use more times than I can count. When you get down to it, the only thing sense has going for it are the widgets. And the widgets can all be had, at a small cost, on the epic 4g via launcherpro plus and beautiful widgets.
The screen is amazing, the keyboard is more useful than I thought it would be. As is the hardware camera button. The only glaring defects are the GPS and the capacitive buttons. Now dont get me wrong, these two are pretty serious and potentially dealbreaking problems. But I have faith that the GPS can be fixed. And as far as the capacitive buttons go, I'm slowly getting used to them...
Thats my take, for what its worth. Good luck w/ your decision.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...Term=hspa&WT.z_searchProduct=myTouch%99+-+New
There aren't very fine details out yet, such as what type of screen it is, how large the battery is, what type of processor (it is 1 ghz, though) etc. but it seems to be, more or less, a Vibrant with a front-facing camera and HSPA+.
The kicker, though, is this is (probably) going to be an HTC device, which runs circle around Samsung when it comes to high-end Android phones.
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http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...Term=hspa&WT.z_searchProduct=myTouch%99+-+New
There aren't very fine details out yet, such as what type of screen it is, how large the battery is, what type of processor (it is 1 ghz, though) etc. but it seems to be, more or less, a Vibrant with a front-facing camera and HSPA+.
The kicker, though, is this is (probably) going to be an HTC device, which runs circle around Samsung when it comes to high-end Android phones.
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How is it like a Vibrant with a FFC? It looks nothing like the Vibrant, It has buttons (Not fully touch) & It's ugly
Isnt the screen smaller than a Vibrant?
Looks decent enough and has the one thing I wish Vibrant did... hard buttons. That's the only thing I wish the vibrant had.
Well...i am getting front facing camera on my vibrant soon. Don't care about HSPA+. Who is gonna download torrents on mobile phones!?
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smaller screen, doesn't work on ATT 3G, no TV-out, only 8GB memory.
the only thing would be the HSPA+ b/c u can get FFC for vibrant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770854
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Well...i am getting front facing camera on my vibrant soon. Don't care about HSPA+. Who is gonna download torrents on mobile phones!?
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HSPA+'s attraction is more less latency than higher speeds. Because, frankly speaking, once you pass the 5 Mbps mark, most website you visit won't load fast enough for you to even notice. The only exception is streaming videos in which case you are more likely to be capped by the server than your connection anyway.
What does less latency mean for end user? Real question, no pun.
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Not as sexy as the Vibrant.
The single detail that makes it better than the Vibrant? It's an HTC.
The MyTouchHD is an awesome phone. The screen isn't as big as the Vibrant but the build quality is a lot better. I've had the pleasure of using it and if any phone would make me switch its that one. Just wish it didn't come with Sense.
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The MyTouchHD is an awesome phone. The screen isn't as big as the Vibrant but the build quality is a lot better. I've had the pleasure of using it and if any phone would make me switch its that one. Just wish it didn't come with Sense.
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sense would probably be the reason to switch!
Sense PWNS....
i'd get the G2 over the mytouch HD.
not quite as 'vibrant' as the vibrant, bet it also doesnt vibrate as the vibrant
I believe the screen size is 3.8 in. Same width as the Vibrant, a couple of mm shorter. That's hardly anything to whine about. Ffc without having to completely hack my phone plus software support for video chat over 3G is definitely a plus. Native HSPA+ support. Shipped with froyo. My guess is that it will probably have a working GPS and compass. Swype preinstalled and Wifi calling too. This phone, although not as sexy looking as the Vibrant, looks very promising.
its official, and its just the MyTouch
mytouch.t-mobile.com
Hspa+ is real cool in its stats. But until it is widely available it's nearly worthless for most people. I figure by the time it's something that would actually affect me day to day itll be good timing to upgrade from my vibrant. My touch looks cool, ffc is a nice touch but it's also something I know I would rarely use.
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Cant wait for the mytouch to come out, how is it that the g2 doesn't have a ffc? && the mytouch is going to have a trackpad !! Which us always nicer to check spelling with
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Im contemplating selling my Vibrant. Even though this new MyTouch may lack some of the sexiness of the Samsung, HTC's customer service seems more on point. I rather my money go there. Wifi calling, Froyo, FFC, GPS that works (assuming) is more reason to drop the Samsung Vibrant.
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What does less latency mean for end user? Real question, no pun.
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Voip is much better when your latency is 60-80ms instead of 160-200ms.
Web pages begin loading much quicker (large pages still take a while to render, but small pages seem to come up instantly).
Google Maps tiles load quicker.
Little things that make the web feel faster are mostly latency-dependent. And typically, HSPA+ has lower latency than WiMax
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Im contemplating selling my Vibrant. Even though this new MyTouch may lack some of the sexiness of the Samsung, HTC's customer service seems more on point. I rather my money go there. Wifi calling, Froyo, FFC, GPS that works (assuming) is more reason to drop the Samsung Vibrant.
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Frustrated and fed up with Samsung's lack of support for the Vibrant, I contemplated switching to the G2, but wasn't impressed when I checked it out at a T-Mobile store over the weekend. Now that the MyTouch HD has been announced, my Vibrant will be going up for sale.
So wait, do you guys mean that the Vibrant can't benefit from Hspa+? You actually need a specific phone?
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My upgrade comes through on March 1st.. I've looked into each of these phones with great detail. This is what I've come up with in a nutshell. And I want everyone's professional opinion as ill be using this phone for a year or two.. thx guys and gals..(is there a girl on xda yet? ;p)
Stock pros of shift: pocket friendly, higher quality exterior, possibly more support on xda, I heart HTC.
Stock pros of epic 4g: better battery life, amoled screen, front facing camera, video card for twice the gaming potential
Both are 99.00 on Amazon with upgrade eligibility (so is the evo, but I don't need a tablet just yet, 4" is quite enough for me) .. I use sprint im not switching its cheap.. I'd rather have a steak then slightly improved cell service. I have wifi at home anyways..
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My wife has a shift and I have an Epic. Her phone is more stable and her camera takes noticeably better pictures. The keyboard is also better on the shift as sometimes the keys skip on the Epic. As far as froyo is concerned it is much more stable on the Shift as well.
When on the shift section of xda I noticed a lot of people got the phone for their wives and not for themselves. They say games don't run as smoothe on the shift such as psx rom.games. and there is no phone on the market that I've layed my hands on that has a prettier screen than the epic. The colors are just plain and simply better. The phone isn't the eye catcher the epic is
I would go personally with the Epic in hopes of sprint and Samsung getting their act together and fixing the numerous bugs that are associated with it. You'll definetely have a love hate relationship with the epic but I believe in the long run you'll be better off with it.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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At this point id say wait for the next round of phones as there'll be dual core options. Also, my gil has the evo and i the epic and they are about the same size overall, not too much difference.
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If you can wait for the next round of phones I would, since they'll probably be out this summer. If you can't, the Epic is a good phone. I'm currently on EB 13 and I did a fresh install and then loaded all of my apps manually. There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera, Time without signal (TWS) being high unless you do the airplane mode toggle, and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light. These aren't deal breakers for me, because I don't really use the phone for low light recordings or sport mode and I'm fine toggling the airplane mode. However, it would be nice to have this fixed. I haven't experienced any of the other bugs people have claimed, so I'm still very happy with the performance of EB 13, but I'm not holding my breath for a fix. I mainly stay on EB 13 because the battery life for me is drastically better than 2.1 and the performance is no worst than 2.1. The screen is a lot better as well.
Like I said before, I hope they fix the problems, but I wouldn't buy a phone assuming they will......
IMO, it all boils down to this..
If you want a KB, get the Epic, if you don't get the EVO
The EVO shift is simply not a high end phone, no matter how it was marketed.
It is not a matter of speed, but just a lack of to many high end features.
I would really say it boils down to you really wanting to mod it I have an epic and I've been pretty happy with having it rommed to froyo until. Although some of the hardware glitches or software do kinda get annoying. I still think it's pretty descent.
The shift I'm assuming is a descent phone as well and I heard the keyboard is way better then epic, so it really comes down to preference I really think.
Best advice I can say is go to the sprint store and play with both of them for about 30 minutes, like literally 30 minutes.
I own both. Epic has a nicer screen and is faster for games. Shift seems to be better for literally everything else.
But if you like to tweak endlessly, Epic may be more your speed.
Epic by a gazillian times. The screen is simply amazing! And the gpu screams. Along froyo with ext filesystem, it even beats the super dual core tegra Atrix phone. Trust me... Epic is hands down best. I owned a Evo and a shift. Both underperform compared to Epic.
Thanks a lot guys after reading I think I may just wait for next row of phones.. when do you think they'll come out?
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Brah the epic is a MAN PHONE.
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The shift is something I would recommend to my grandma. though i wouldn't recommend a android phone to any tech impaired person( as my grandma is, fuuuu dont even get me started.)
From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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There's still problems with the sport mode in the camera... and the camcorder being a little sluggish in low light.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Not sure if it makes a difference to you or not, but thete is now a fix fir the cameta issues in eb13. Keepin' the faith that sprint will release a more stable update soon. In the mean time get the epic and trust in the great devs we have here.
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Lol screw samsung and sprint for updates. Devs for the win.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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From what it seems, the Shift is a less expensive/toned-down alternative to the Epic and Evo. So you're more or less comparing two differently classed phones.
Also, I love the keyboard on the epic. It's very roomy and comfortable, especially with its five rows. Plus, the Super AMOLED screen is gorgeous and a serious selling point. And regarding support on XDA, the Epic has nearly 10 times more threads and posts in each sub-forum.
I've never actually owned a Shift, but just from the numbers it seems the Epic is a much better deal, especially since they are the same price on Amazon. But waiting for Sprint's next lineup of Android phones seems like a good choice as well.
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Heavy
I've had the Epic and the Evo, not the Shift tho. But I've played with the Shift for a while and one thing that surprises me is HOW HEAVY it is! For the weight difference, I'd almost just get the Epic. Regardless... if you want a billion ROM's that's hard to decipher and just really be confused most of the time, get an HTC. Tho, I will say their stock ROM's hand Samy's rear to them. The build quality on all three phones I would say are on par with each other.
The GPS on the Evo is AMAZING! I ALWAYS get a quick lock (within 5-10 seconds of opening up maps), and after 15-20 seconds, it's accurate to 3m (9 feet!), the Epic, not so much. After about 30 seconds, it'd lock, and only be accurate to 20m (60 feet!?!). As for using navigation on the phone, again, I would buy a garmin or tom-tom before I'd use the Epic's navigation.
Bottom line, yeah, if you need a phone that just works, any HTC is the way to go. BUT, the screen, size of keyboard, how good it plays games, did I mention the screen quality? are unmatched on the Epic. Hardware-wise (beyond maybe the GPS), the Epic is unbeaten.
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Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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The answers to all of your questions in this thread. A very nice debate between some of us hardware nuts. (I won. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907182
noskoviak said:
Shift out performs evo.. epic has it beat on the graphics end. at least according to benchmark apps. I think I'm going to go with the shift for now... ill just add another line late this summer to try and get another phone..
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Untrue. Stop using Quadrant and Linpack (outdated benchmarks that are optimized for Snapdragon) and you'll see that it is simply not the case.
MHz for MHz, the Qualcomm MSM SoCs are slightly more powerful than the Hummingbird, but at 800 MHz they still fall behind the 1 GHz S5PC110.
I was using smartbench what do u think of that one?
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I got the shift by the way... and I'm am loving it. Superior device imo.
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Shift is good, but the epic is on a whole other level, in terms of hardware. Stock the shift has the better software, but if your going to mod your phone with some of the awesome xda dev software.......that's where you'll see what I mean by being on a whole other level. Don't wait to long to trade your new shift in and get a real upgrade
So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers
Epic 4g
Froyo= SyndicateROM Frozen 1.2
Gingerbread= AnonymousROM i3
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Boobs
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your second PWNED
LOL ^ 4th
Btw, I'd choose Epic over Shift.
You don't need more answers lol, just the 1st post, wait! And 2nd... yeah your going to need the 2nd one also.
...5th!
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I would bet that the Epic would perform better and imo the keyboard is also better. Epic is easily rooted and has a nicer display. Easy pick.
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7th..
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The epic pretty much is an all around better phone
An argument could be made on the SW side, but that falls by the wayside if you are not staying stock
Mainly, the EVO Shift is simply missing to many top level hardware items, that make it a upper mid range phone rather than the top tier the Epic is
I was faced with the same question when I bought not long ago.
Screen size favors Epic (4.0" - 3.6" That's a significant difference in Real Estate)
Screen brightness favors Epic (Samsungs Super AMOLED easily tops anything HTC has IMO)
Keyboard favors Epic (the larger size of the phone spaces the keys better, Epic has 5 rows including dedicated number row)
Processor favors the Epic (1.0 Ghz Hummingbird - 800 Mhz Snapdragon)
I believe rated battery stock time is 5.50 hrs for Epic to 6.00 for Shift.
Epic has front facing camera (which I never use, but some people do I'm sure)
The list goes on, but you can google other features.
As far as Flashing ROMs, I am NOT really tech savvy, but after reading through these forums I was not only able to root the phone quickly, but flashing was simple and I have found the ROMs I've used to be stable and functional with very few bugs. Can't beat that.
Epic, all the way.
Epic. Who ever choosed shift needs a swift kick in the wallnuts.
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So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
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Even though i love my epic i would go with the shift because it has locked gps in a few seconds and capable of overclocking to 2.0Ghz and 1.6Ghz stable.
Its fun to use but i like epic 4g because of its screen. and Samsung is Easy to manipulate and easy to use like rooting and all that stuff.
But now its easy to get the Shift rooted in all.
I just like the bigger screen and AMOLED is deal breaker. i went with the shift at 1st because Samsung pissed me off as well as thousands more, with a certain phone.
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Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
I figured I would post this here, even though I also placed it in the troll thread, as it was having the same discussion
I haven't heard of the Epic screens blacking out, but mine has held up beyond belief, even after facing harsh abuse.
IMO, it is a not a "power/speed" issue that makes the EVO Shift a lesser phone, but the overall lack of top end hardware features, and those CAN'T be modded in later
Here are several reviews with the conclusions, as well as links to the original reviews, and the Epic is not just a winner, but a CLEAR winner in every case.
From Techd
You don’t have to imagine how two Android smartphones would perform when pitted against one another, as the folks at WireFly have done the deed. Pitting HTC EVO Shift 4G against the Samsung Epic 4G, the latter wins out big time.
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So, it seems like the EVO Shift 4G did admirably well for some basic processes, but stumbled badly when it comes to complex 3G graphics. But then again, it has a lower running processor than the Epic 4G with only 800MHz — though that’s not the end all be all performance measurement.
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4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G
Avatar for Brian Barrett Brian Barrett —4G Phone Fight: Evo Shift Battles Epic 4G Let's say you want a 4G phone, because 4 is one more G than your current phone has. If you're deciding between Sprint's finest—the HTC Evo Shift and the Samsung Epic 4G—you're gonna want to watch this.
Both phones are sliders, both are on the same network, and by outward appearances seem pretty much identical. But! The Epic 4G, it turns out, is packing way more horses under the hood. As it should, considering it costs almost twice as much as the Shift.
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The Winner
Unlike other previous battles such as the HTC Thunderbolt vs. Motorola Droid Bionic battle, Samsung Epic 4Gthe HTC EVO Shift 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G battle seems to have a pretty clear cut winner. The Samsung Epic 4G, even though it came out first, has huge advantages when it comes to display, and features while the HTC EVO Shift 4G manages to win a slight edge in design and software. Overall the advantages of the Samsung Epic 4G are too big to ignore and it easily comes out on top in this battle of 4G keyboard slider smartphones on Sprint.
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heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
XxLostSoulxX said:
heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
Then Shift on 2.3 just blows the sh*t outta the Epic.
Newer Technology is better.
Older Technology is Wiser.
But in the end its all down to personal preference.
Just mess with both phones see what you really like and want.
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But official GB is just around the corner for the Epic (and already available if rooted). So with that, its still weigted twords the Epic imo.
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shawayne21 said:
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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Never had my screen go black or anything at all for that matter, but that would be covered by manufactures warranty I think.
The screen is amazing.
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shawayne21 said:
Thanks everybody for your answers .. I'm leaning towards the Epic now.
Yeah .. I'm leaning more towards the Epic though just because of the screen and 5 row keyboard.. But the thing I heard is that the Epic phones screen black out all the time, and I'm not going to have insurance or be on Sprint (flashing) .. And the HTC build quality is superior to Samsung. So I'm stuck.. any more suggestions?
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What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
XxLostSoulxX said:
heres the thing though Shift is running 2nd Gen Snap. And even @ 800Mhz it pulls double score than Epic @1Ghz both on froyo.
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What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
gTen said:
What do you mean goes black out? like the power saving feature? you can set the timer on that...
As for build quality..who told you HTC phones have better build quality? that is a myth created because the samsung phones feel so light..the build quality is top notch, not to mention Gorilla Glass..
What scores? don't tell me quadrant/linpack...
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SmartBench 2010 and other various benchmarks but Quadrant does pull higher but thats not point. the point is its newer technology 45nm instead of 65nm.
I am getting tired of waiting for a new phone, and am interested in getting the LG G2x. I understand it has its issues, but im willing to give it a shot, plus i will be putting CM7 on, which I believe fixes some of the said issues.
But my question is, how is the display (screen) of the LG in comparison to the Super Amoled of the Vibrant.
Is the Vibrant Significantly better? are they similar?
Any input would be appreciated.
Regards,
i have had both. vibrant and g2x. im going to go stick to my vibrant.
Its a good phone but no worth the upgrade it still has 512 ram like vibrant so not an real upgrade an android doesn't utilize 2 cores yet an screen is down grade really wait another 3 to 6 months 4 a phone
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Jasonhunterx said:
Its a good phone but no worth the upgrade it still has 512 ram like vibrant so not an real upgrade an android doesn't utilize 2 cores yet an screen is down grade really wait another 3 to 6 months 4 a phone SAMOLED HD should be out by that time hopefully
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Wait for the Samsung hercules, it'll have everything the g2x is missing but it comes out in september still no reason to rush just flash some new roms its what I do when i get tired of my phone now Im on MIUI
Nowhere near an upgrade. If anything the vibrant dominates that pos phone. If you got it your basically taking a huge risk. Have you seen how trouble sum those phones have been its ridiculous..
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Don't do it.
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Us Galaxy S users have gotten spoiled by the AMOLED screen, I could never use another device that didn't have one, I even find the screen on the iPhone 4 to be lacking, but thats personal opinion.
As for upgrading to the G2x, save your cash and upgrade, my mother has one, basically no difference from the vibrant, except the lack of the AMOLED, which is the first thing you notice.
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Nowhere near an upgrade. If anything the vibrant dominates that pos phone. If you got it your basically taking a huge risk. Have you seen how trouble sum those phones have been its ridiculous..
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but... but... but... the gps works better than the vibrants?
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but... but... but... the gps works better than the vibrants?
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Give me a break if gps is that important you can buy a bluetooth gps reciever for 40 bucks
ok. i guess i will wait for the Hercules or the next Nexus device! Thanks!
and yes.... the Super AMOLED screen has spoiled me.... dont even want to know what the SAMOLED+ Screen will look like!
GameOver69 said:
dont even want to know what the SAMOLED+ Screen will look like!
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Trust me. It'll be better than sliced Jesus.
funeralthirst said:
but... but... but... the gps works better than the vibrants?
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I was going to ask about the gps. I am really getting tired of not having a phone with a gps that I can trust to take me to my destination. I had the G1 and the HD2 and could trust both of those phones to take me to ther right place and not lose the signal 10 times on the way.
Working GPS doesn't mean a whole lot if the phone reboots or hard freezes to the point of requiring a battery pull at least 5 times a day.
I went through FOUR G2x's in a month and each and every one of them had the same problems...
I tried all of these:
Stock
Stock with absolutely no apps installed except for what came from the factory.
Stock with root
Stock with root , again with nothing but what came from the factory and superuser.
Custom ROM with root
CM7 with root
Under ALL of those conditions it had the same problems.
They should have named it the LG Crash-o-matic.
I'll take my Vibrant any day of the week over it.
By the way - don't let the "speed" fool you - they actually sped up the speed of the animations to make it look like it was faster.
whatever5 said:
Give me a break if gps is that important you can buy a bluetooth gps reciever for 40 bucks
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actually my gps works fine (well as good as a vibrant can be expected to. on cm7 and i bought my vib on release date), since you didn't pick up on the obvious sarcasm....
I just got a G2x a few days ago and updated to official Gingerbread right away. So far, I have not experienced a single freeze or reboot. The GPS locks almost right away. I came from the Samsung Mesmerize (Galaxy S, SCH-I500) which had a TERRIBLE GPS.
As for the screen, the Mes may have been a little better but honestly the G2X still has a fantastic screen, one of the better ones. It's an IPS LCD just like the iPhone 4.
And the phone is FAST.
Alex530 said:
Nowhere near an upgrade. If anything the vibrant dominates that pos phone. If you got it your basically taking a huge risk. Have you seen how trouble sum those phones have been its ridiculous..
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Umm, really? The Vibrant is a wonderful phone, but it's not nearly as powerful as the G2X. OP: Go to your local t-mobile store and compare the two side by side for yourself. That's the only way you'll know. But as others have said, unless you're going to another Samsung device, prepare to get a crummier screen.
I love everything about my new sensation, but I really miss SAMOLED.
Paging Dr B said:
Umm, really? The Vibrant is a wonderful phone, but it's not nearly as powerful as the G2X. OP: Go to your local t-mobile store and compare the two side by side for yourself. That's the only way you'll know. But as others have said, unless you're going to another Samsung device, prepare to get a crummier screen.
I love everything about my new sensation, but I really miss SAMOLED.
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Playing with the phone at the store and having one in your possession for more than just a few minutes are two TOTALLY different things... Sure, it may have a 1000 horsepower engine, but when it's running with only 1 quart of oil when it's supposed to have 4 or 5, things aren't going to run right.
The phone may be powerful, but it's a piece of junk when you get right down to it.
Yeah the screen on both phones are great, but why sacrifice a small screen difference for stock gingerbread, raw power (tegra 2 dual core) and a better camera, capable of 1080p. The gingerbread update fixed almost every single problem. The phone just flies. Yes our phones are great and I love the vibrant, but if you're looking for a powerhouse update soon, I'd go for the g2x
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