Just got off the phone with lifestylegroup, the guys who do mobile insurance for phones on three.
Turns out rooting, bricking and all that are covered by their policy
Root, generic firmware and lagfix here I come
(thought this might interest some of you)
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I was pointed in the direction of this page. The guide is great to downgrade to WM5 from WM6.
If a mod would like to delete this thread, or leave it up for any future people in need....
Cheers
My phone has recently developed the irritating white screen and non-functioning D-Pad buttons. I just put it down to the ROM upgrade I did afew months back, but now I realise it's actually hardware. Well, I mentioned this to Orange when I rang about my account and they want to send me a replacement (even though it's out of warranty, my insurance covers it... lucky me )
The problem is, I've upgraded to the WM6 Black Rom, and unlocked the phone.
As they are picking the phone up at 6pm tomorrow, does anyone know if I can just downgrade using the WM5 upgrade Orange released? Or do I need to find the official Orange ROM?.. any url's would be great
Also, as I used the HTC Hermes SIM & CID unlock (I only unlocked the SIM), is there anyway I can undo this too? I'm pretty sure there is, as it said not to do the CID unlock otherwise it voids warranty.
Thanks for the help
I was in the same positon some months back, I just returned the phone to the courier. Nothing was ever mentioned about my mods.
Im sure they dont bother looking, the people in the orange shops might if you return it over the counter.
I have returned two modded phoines via a courier, and all has been sweet.
Steve
admans said:
I was in the same positon some months back, I just returned the phone to the courier. Nothing was ever mentioned about my mods.
Im sure they dont bother looking, the people in the orange shops might if you return it over the counter.
I have returned two modded phoines via a courier, and all has been sweet.
Steve
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Good to know, cheers
not that it matters now.. but is this what was happening?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321163
Im going to europe(france) for december and am considering buying a HTC Desire HD while im there.
I'm from South Africa so i know i should get an unlocked handset if i want it to work here. (But i am aware of unlocking etc, so im not too concerned)
I would like advice on the carriers that tend to lock and brand their phones, prices and availability of the phone there? Are there also any other issues that i should be aware of if im planning on buying the handset in another country?
Thanx in advance.
If anything happens, you may not be covered by warranty, and if you discover fault when back home, you cannot just pop over to France to return it to shop.
To make sure you get an unbranded, unlocked phone, buy online, as most shops sell phones linked to a carrier, and without overheads of running a shop, they are normally cheaper. Also warranty is normally with HTC rather than carrier like Vodafone or 3.
I have a new Note 3 sitting in an unopened box on my desk. I have read (after ordering it) about KNOX and that there's currently no ROMs available.
I intend to go to my AT&T store today and either get this thing activated or exchange it (hoping they will) for either a GS4 or a GN2 to replace my GS3.
I am no pro at modifying the device but I have applied a couple of dozen ROMs and usually went back to factory due to some weirdness with some apps. I sorta settled on just having it rooted so I could use WiFi and tethering.
I would be happy with having just that for now on the GN3, are there good roots for the AT&T GN3 yet?
I confess I am a little worried about KNOX as well, I've never bricked a phone before and if I ruin it by hacking I'm okay with losing warranty support but I do not want to lose warranty for things I did not break like hardware. I'm guessing it is too soon to say but has anyone heard about Samsung giving grief to customers that have tripped the bit?
Does the GS4 also have KNOX?
Will I lose enough performance and features by downgrading to the Note2 to make that a bad choice?
Sorry for so many noob questions, but I know this is the place to get the truth.
Yes everything samsung device who run in android 4.3 have a knox app.. And why u want to downgrading ? The note 3 is most powerful phablet this year. Don't worry if u bricked your note 3,it s easy to fix it. Read forum on galaxy note 3-gn3 android development-soft bricked
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Edbert said:
I have a new Note 3 sitting in an unopened box on my desk. I have read (after ordering it) about KNOX and that there's currently no ROMs available.
I intend to go to my AT&T store today and either get this thing activated or exchange it (hoping they will) for either a GS4 or a GN2 to replace my GS3.
I am no pro at modifying the device but I have applied a couple of dozen ROMs and usually went back to factory due to some weirdness with some apps. I sorta settled on just having it rooted so I could use WiFi and tethering.
I would be happy with having just that for now on the GN3, are there good roots for the AT&T GN3 yet?
I confess I am a little worried about KNOX as well, I've never bricked a phone before and if I ruin it by hacking I'm okay with losing warranty support but I do not want to lose warranty for things I did not break like hardware. I'm guessing it is too soon to say but has anyone heard about Samsung giving grief to customers that have tripped the bit?
Does the GS4 also have KNOX?
Will I lose enough performance and features by downgrading to the Note2 to make that a bad choice?
Sorry for so many noob questions, but I know this is the place to get the truth.
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If you have MJ1 rom, look at *#1234#, then you could root folowing some guides in this forum, if it cames with MJ7, is not posiblle to root up to now, widout triping Knox and warranty.
Regards
Fede
Thanks all.
I booted it up (box was already opened by AT&T to put sim in) without the sim card to check and it was MJ5. I was going to return it but found out that the Note2 is still $299 and I got this for only $225 as some special offer so I am going to keep it.
Plan to just root it and not use ROMs for a while.
THANKS AGAIN!
All Samsung new phone is came with KNOX now or later with upgrade will bring this stupid useless Knox.
Note 2 latest firmware 4.3 already came with it.
For those of you who root your phones, is it ever a problem when you come to sell it? Presumably you have to declare it's been rooted and Knox has been tripped, so things like Samsung Pay won't work.
That's pretty much all that's been holding me back rooting my S7 Edge.
No issues faced ever selling a rooted device here in India. Infact all of my devices are rooted the day they are unboxed
I have faced some issues with the selling of rooted devices
People here (Greece) know about the KNOX counter and they demand a very big discount from the price
I had issues with selling my old S6. I had the ad for 400 euros back then and because it was rooted he asked 250
Android pay will still work if unrooted right?
yes android pay will work.
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What's here to discuss? If you don't disclose the actual state of the good your selling, it's straight up fraud. In this case the missing ability to use Samsung My Knox due to a tripped Knox counter, plus the fact that it voids the warranty. After all, this device is marketed as one that can create secure containers using the My Knox app.
I hate idiots who think they're smart because they scam people. The final straw for me was this incident. Basically, I'm never going to buy a used/second hand device, ever. World is full of d*ckheads.
I've sold many, many rooted devices. I always explicitly told people about their bootloader and warranty state. I always write signed protocols that the buyer was thoroughly informed about the devices condition which s/he also has to read and sign.
Of course I sold those devices to a much lower price, which imho is the correct thing to do when you sell something of non-original, altered condition.
What about chinese phones? Some of them come pre rooted and well. Who knows if the manufacturer gives You warranty.
I've sold a couple of rooted phones but no one really cared about warranty, and I always was able to sell them for nearly full price. I never had a buyer that contacted me after buying the phone and complained. They all seemed happy. Probably because in my country such thing as warranty doesn't exist. Everyone orders replacement parts from the internet or they just buy a new device (mostly a worse one).
Pure luck none of them contacted you. Never had luck. Don't need it. Warranty exists where I live. 1. It'd be dishonest. 2. Don't have time for the headaches when problems occur because I wanted to earn some money in a highly questionable way. 3. I'd hate it if someone sold me a rooted device without telling me.
In Bosnia also nobody cares if the phone is rooted or not, you can tell them, but first most of people do no know what it means. I do not know anybody here who wants to use knox security features, and also here you have warranty just if you buy a new phone, if you buy it used there is no warranty anyway so it really does not matter here.
Unless you live in US and countries that have Android Pay selling rooted phones won't be a problem
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Biggenz said:
For those of you who root your phones, is it ever a problem when you come to sell it? Presumably you have to declare it's been rooted and Knox has been tripped, so things like Samsung Pay won't work.
That's pretty much all that's been holding me back rooting my S7 Edge.
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I sold my first s7 edge rooted on Kijiji. I just wrote that it had been rooted on the ad.
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i'm looking to buy a rooted s7 for verizon..
if anyone has one let me know..
i dropped my beloved s8 . the front glass has smashed it is rooted and now i am going to have to try and get it fixed with the insurance which covers accidental damage. has anyone successfully got a phone fixed by vodafone uk after root? i know rooting voids warranty but this is not warranty it is after sales insurance and screen damage has nothing to do with root.
any advice?
there is no mention of root in the terms and conditions for my insurance so i think i should be ok https://www.vodafone.co.uk/terms-an...itions/vodafone-accidental-damage/index.htm#1
the only part that refers to modification in any way is this
If your mobile device has been modified in any way we will only
replace the mobile device, we do not cover the modifications that
have been made.
Modifications are anything that changes the way your mobile device
looks or operates from the original specifications. This includes things
like adding gems, precious metals or making software changes such as
unlocking your mobile device from a network
so sounds like i may be in luck. fingers crossed. i will visit the vodafone shop tomorrow and see how things go.
djisgod said:
i dropped my beloved s8 . the front glass has smashed it is rooted and now i am going to have to try and get it fixed with the insurance which covers accidental damage. has anyone successfully got a phone fixed by vodafone uk after root? i know rooting voids warranty but this is not warranty it is after sales insurance and screen damage has nothing to do with root.
any advice?
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Rooting doesn't void warranty in UK.
vladimir_carlan said:
Rooting doesn't void warranty in UK.
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really? everything i have read says it does. but if that is the case then my mind rests alot more easy lol
djisgod said:
really? everything i have read says it does. but if that is the case then my mind rests alot more easy lol
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They can huff and puff at first but UK is still EU member so they need to comply with EU directive. And I told you that from my own experience. Well not really a warranty issue. But last year I returned an Galaxy S7 to Carphone Warehouse under their "14 days change your mind policy". That S7 still had Omega rom installed. Didn't bothered to return to stock.
Your phone has a Hardware issue, so you shouldn't worry about being rooted.
Rooting doesn't void warranty in the us either, despite what the carriers say.
They can huff and puff all they want, but it's illegal in the us to refuse to honor a warranty repair caused by something unrelated to customization of a device. Turns out all they have to do is say they won't honor it and most people won't even try.
I'm pretty sure rooting can't smash your screen, so you're in the clear ?
phone was returned to vodafone today. they say i should have it back in one week and gave me a ****ty vodafone smart ultra 7 to use as a courtesy phone......going back to a terrible carrier branded android phone really has made me see just how lovely the s8 is......i want my baby back :'(
I am very happy to say they fixed my phone with no complaint about it being rooted. they repaced the front glass, the back glass, the lcd and the side casing. its now as good as new and i am very happy to have my s8 back!