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Hi,
I did search the whole forum for answers but in vain. Whenever I access weather tab and update the info, it updates using 3G/HSDPA.
But, what I want is to update using wifi at home. Is there an option to make it use wifi instead of 3G/HSDPA?
Pls lemme know coz it wud help me save a few penny
TIA
SK
Well I did the following.
1) As I don't want any applications (in background or by request) to update via any Phone Network I deleted the internet setting.
Now I can connect via USB or Wifi and then download, both work.
If I do it when I am not connected then I get an error message (as I have no internet connection setup).
So this works for me but also means I have to remake a internet connection if and when I want to download of phone network.
I have no flat rate data plan so its my only choice, maybe others have a better idea.
really strange, mine uses wifi and if there is no wifi, it relies on gprs.
cx2k5 said:
really strange, mine uses wifi and if there is no wifi, it relies on gprs.
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Which is correct as far as I can see.
The issue here seems to be he does not want to download via gprs and I have yet to find an option that allows you to turn it off.
The choices are Download automatically
Download weather when roaming
What is missing is that stops you downloading via GPRS but allows you to download via WIFI and when connected.
Problem
cx2k5 said:
really strange, mine uses wifi and if there is no wifi, it relies on gprs.
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Thanks 2 all for ur reply
Actually the problem is:
I have router at home and my touch hd connects to wifi to update mails, etc.. But when I switch to weather and update, it somehow doesnt identify the wifi connection. Instead uses 3G for updating...is it happening only in my mobile?
And I guess nodata might just work...lemme chk that out ....Thanks a ton
Mine too used to use what it wanted, hspda as first choice. So i deleted the 3g configuration. From what i have read, it is a WM problem: no way to set 3G as secondary choice
bbonzz said:
Mine too used to use what it wanted, hspda as first choice. So i deleted the 3g configuration. From what i have read, it is a WM problem: no way to set 3G as secondary choice
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oh i c...pls tell me how u deleted the 3g config and then did that take wifi for updating after doing so???
sriramkrishnan06 said:
oh i c...pls tell me how u deleted the 3g config and then did that take wifi for updating after doing so???
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start->settings->connections->connections
here you see (don't know how exactely in english, since i have italian)
internet (???)
work
under internet, "modify"
enter there, and delete your 3G account.
Now back in connections, go advanced->select (net???) [the first button over composition rules]
Here select "work" for everything.
Now, without 3G, the phone connects to internet only if you have an active wifi, otherways doesn't connect.
Wouldnt it just be easier to use the HD tweak utility to disable internet access via 3G/GPRS/HSDPA? - just a thought guys, instead of deleting settings which may be required at a later time (i.e. when no WIFI is available)
My weather updates fine via WIFI,
My emails (using a hotmail account) keep trying to update via 3G though - I can't get it to do it via WIFI unless I use Windows Live to login then update emails
Would, but as you see there are problems (and i suspect hd tweak kills also mms's, since excludes all data connections). Instead, deleting the account, is easier. I can always reinstall it with the connection wizard.
try this: disable or delete your gprs connection, enable wifi and try to download weather data. if successful, then re-enable your gprs connection and see if it still prefers to use gprs or wifi at first place.
Use modaco NoData to make sure the 3g connection is never used.
Done
Thanx a ton for ur help...I used Nodata and my work was done...sweet and simple...
Thanx
I have a similar problem, just wanted to open a topic about it
Unfortunate, weather is not updating any more, no Wifi, no 3G.
I do not mind it using 3G, but it's not updatingf, nothing works.
I am not even sure how to delete the default 3g connections.
i will try .. i hope i will not have to hard reset the phone again
Ummm... u bought £500 phone and yet can't afford a 50kb 3G/GPRS bandwidth per month?!
Quite intriguing
@zoomee
To make email use WIFI and 3G as a fallback, in email account settings change connection to "The Internet" (it's probably set to your 3G Access point e.g. "T-mobile internet")
Maybe your settings are wrong. Does QuickGPS work? If it doesn't, then check your settings. With some access points of some operators, you can only browse internet pages but not use other apps requiring internet access.
@sriramkrishnan06: no problem
I am affording a 3g Connection and Bandwidth (if that was pointed at me).
I can not get any more weather data (
I deleted as explained here some of the previous set connections to my 3g provider and also rebuild one, and still nothind
throguth Wifi it seems not to work, but through 3g, not any more
it was working before, i had to hard reset it and now it does not work any more
I think it was pointed to sriramkrishnan06.
Anyway, have you checked whether QuickGPS works or not?
The Quick GPRS works form me, Weather still does not work
I am little upset since i know i am missing something small. I am not THE thech savvy guy, but i know my whay arroud computers, (i am a web developer) still, somehow i am not able to make the damn weather work, even tried one of the "hacks" witht e weather database editoer, to load the default server, it is still not working for me.
If anyone has an idea .. please ..
If Quick GPS works then I have no idea. Are you sure you didn't mess up anything using that tool?
In any case, hard resets almost always work. If you don't want to, you could do a full backup with Resco Backup or similar, hard reset, test the weather, then restore the backup.
Hi guys,
in the building where I work, the signal doesn't reach inside, but I do have the possibility to connect the HD2 to the internet using Wi-Fi.
I can go on any web page using any browser, but my HD2 won't never update the Meteo or the Stock Action screen unless I get a 3G connection, which by way costs me heaps of money.
I would like to know if there is any way to sincronyze the Data Services also with the Wi-Fi connection.
Thanks,
Alberto.
mmmm strange... it seems to work for me fine... let me check my settings
alberto.melita said:
Hi guys,
in the building where I work, the signal doesn't reach inside, but I do have the possibility to connect the HD2 to the internet using Wi-Fi.
I can go on any web page using any browser, but my HD2 won't never update the Meteo or the Stock Action screen unless I get a 3G connection, which by way costs me heaps of money.
I would like to know if there is any way to sincronyze the Data Services also with the Wi-Fi connection.
Thanks,
Alberto.
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Alberto,
I can reproduce the problem. With the phone off and Wi-Fi enabled, no update is received for stock and weather.
ccristal
My HD2 updates only using the phone line (instead of the free Wi-Fi), and as in my work place my operator doesn't reach directly, I wasted a day worth of salary in less than a week!
Any help on HOW TO FORCE the HD2 to USE FIRST Wi-Fi connection, or ONLY Wi-Fi connection to update will be really appreciated!
Been looking and still couldn't find any clue.
Same problem here and by the way, try turning off the phone connection and downloading an email attachment using wifi only, download speeds are REALLY slow - I suspect it is still using the cellular connection even though the phone says it is off
i'm not sure if this is the same problem as you, but my phone always updated using data connection instead of wi-fi, you had to turn off the automatic updates for weather, email etc. But sometimes it wont update my weather using wi-fi it just says unable?
..got the same problem, cant update the weather with the wifi only..i disabled the automatically update and then turned on the wifi but still nothing..
No problems here updating weather or stocks by wifi...
Hi, can you hare your setting with us?
I still have been trying quite a lot different solution today but still no results.
alberto.melita said:
Hi, can you hare your setting with us?
I still have been trying quite a lot different solution today but still no results.
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What settings do you need?
Your meteo update settings for ie., and also your operator name and connection settings
Hey..i found an alternative way to update the weather in my city through wifi and it finally works!
Go to weather app and just add your city as a new location..after that go to your home screen and tap on the world clock where you 'll see: ''my location'' and your city recently added..just tap it to your city and thats it.
That works for me.
Thanks!
Let me try this and I'll tell you if it works also for me.
Hi there.
You should check on the "Configure Wireless Network" page if the combo " Connects to:" is set to "The internet" instead of some other network
I have an unlocked HD2 with Vodafone Internet access.
As long as I use my phone standalone I can browse the Web just fine.
But as soon as I activate WiFi Router or try to establish a BT PAN with my PC, my GPRS Internet goes down and thus my PC can't get onto the Internet eitherm.
Anyone can help with this one?
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so re enable gprs connection in the data manager, then
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so re enable gprs connection in the data manager, then[/QUOTE
But it is enabled (all the time). Its just that any browser complains that it can't find the server - until I break the connection to the PC and then it all works again.
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Hi,
Could it be that the phone is preventing this as network operators charge extra for using the phone as a modem (tethering)?
I've not got my phone yet but I'm guessing there will be something to prevent you doing this!
Cheers,
Gavin
Gavinbat said:
Hi,
Could it be that the phone is preventing this as network operators charge extra for using the phone as a modem (tethering)?
I've not got my phone yet but I'm guessing there will be something to prevent you doing this!
Cheers,
Gavin
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You are probably right. I tested the router and it works perfectly, so it's not a hardware or a software problem.
pat12 said:
You are probably right. I tested the router and it works perfectly, so it's not a hardware or a software problem.
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Are you folks saying that the phone service provider can actually "sense" if my phone is in "modem mode" and as a result of that drop the Internet connection?
Because I found that the same thing happens if I connect the phone via USB cable to a PC and activate "Internet Sharing via USB".
Its a real pain in the rear, because many web pages just won't load right w/o areal PC browser.
Opera Mobile truly sucks as soon as you have more than 3 tabs open, and Fennec doesn't even display my soft keyboard.
NetFront sometimes works and then it doesn't and then it works again.
And the dreaded Internet Explorer often simply TERMINATES w/o any reason as soon as I switch to another application. Swuuush and its gone and I have to start from scratch again and just keep watching and watching that progress bar crawl on.
I either need a REAL web browser (don't think there is one for Windows Mobile) or to find a way how to activate the router function w/o loosing my Internet connection in the process.
Is your connection dropped as soon as you connect your HD2 to your PC or after you send a first request from the PC browser?
I don't see how your provider could "sense" ,as you said, that your phone is in modem mode (unless they cooked a ROM that does it )
But, when your browser sends a request, along with the page you are requesting, it sends its "user agent" (it identifies itself as IE, Firefox, Opera or whatever browser you're using on your PC) This can be trapped by your provider, who, in turn, could decide to drop the connection, I guess.
If it's what's happening, a possible workaround would be to install on your PC a plugin that will change the "user agent" and impersonate a phone.
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Is your connection dropped as soon as you connect your HD2 to your PC or after you send a first request from the PC browser?
I don't see how your provider could "sense" ,as you said, that your phone is in modem mode (unless they cooked a ROM that does it )
But, when your browser sends a request, along with the page you are requesting, it sends its "user agent" (it identifies itself as IE, Firefox, Opera or whatever browser you're using on your PC) This can be trapped by your provider, who, in turn, could decide to drop the connection, I guess.
If it's what's happening, a possible workaround would be to install on your PC a plugin that will change the "user agent" and impersonate a phone.
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The connection goes stone dead as soon as the HD2 has established a (network) connection with the PC, be it via USB, Bluetooth or WiFi.
It happens even when I specifically choose the "Share Internet (use Phone as Modem)" setting.
And as soon as I break the connection with my PC, I can browse the web on the phone again.
For me this is real problem, as there are many web site I need to visit which are just to complex to view on the HD2.
I have a similar problem. When I use my HD 2 as a router and connect my laptop to it, the internet connection sucks hard. Videos on YouTube are loading for ages, web pages are loading very long and eventually I get a connection timeout or a server not found message. Then after some minutes it just works fine again and pages are loading very fast, but only for a brief moment.
I am sure that this is not a provider (I got o2) problem, cause when I put my sim card in my old nokia n95 and use it as a router (I use joikuspot for this), everything works like a charm! I get full HDSPA, everything is loading very fast without any disconnects or something like that. So it has to be a hardware problem or a winmo problem I guess!
This is really annoying!
pharao said:
The connection goes stone dead as soon as the HD2 has established a (network) connection with the PC, be it via USB, Bluetooth or WiFi.
It happens even when I specifically choose the "Share Internet (use Phone as Modem)" setting.
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I would expect that to happen, because using the phone as a modem the phone will wait for the computer to issue the dial command.
using the wifirouter the phone instigates the dial so the computer just gets handed the connection.
Hey all,
I'm on my 3rd htc device and I should have asked this question ages ago!
With things like weather updates and emails is it possible to have them automatically update and download when I'm using WiFi without it trying to open a gprs connection at all other times?
I would also be interested because coming from a symbian phone I really dont like that the phone does not ask me which access point I want to use and that gprs connection is the primary one to use on win mo phone. Nokia is better for me from this point of view, you have to choose which access point to use and there is no way you surf on the net thinking you are on wifi while in reality you are using gprs.
As a former Symbian user, I must agree. 1 point for Symbian, and inexcusably lame for Windows Mobile. Let's hope that this is something that can be worked out in an update to 6.5.x while we wait....and wait.... and wait for WP7.
dan_t said:
With things like weather updates and emails is it possible to have them automatically update and download when I'm using WiFi without it trying to open a gprs connection at all other times?
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No, there's no way to force wifi. If wifi is connected it will use it, but if it hits the time where it's set to autoupdate, and no wifi is available, it will connect to gprs.
but... if you are in a WiFI area, but without data service, you are SOL, because it won't use the WiFi for the status updates, email, etc.
Pretty dumb, really.
use bsb tweak to disable all mobile data connections or use nodata program... then it wont be able to try to connect while its not on wifi... but u wont be able to use data connections either unless u enable them again
Of course it does use wifi if it's connected and no other connection is present... I'm doing that every day!
When I arrive home I turn on wifi, disconnect data if it was connected, and I can do all I want, it will use wifi and not try to connect data.
is there a way to auto-download once wifi or data connection is detected? my carrier charges me bigtime for every connection access and not by the minute oe data use.. so I just want everything to update automatically in 1 access without manually doing so for each..
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Of course it does use wifi if it's connected and no other connection is present... I'm doing that every day!
When I arrive home I turn on wifi, disconnect data if it was connected, and I can do all I want, it will use wifi and not try to connect data.
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If disable my data connection, and enable WiFI, and then choose the Weather tab and Update Now... nothing happens. It tries... it fails. Always has on every ROM I've used.
Does it not do this for you, for example?
If I reverse the process.... enable my data connection and disable WiFI.... choose Weather tab, and Update Now.... it works!
Why should such an integral part of the Homescreen UI be utterly and completely dependent on a data connection?
That's something I do not understand.
its working fine over wifi if i turn off data connection for me
Lake292 said:
its working fine over wifi if i turn off data connection for me
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You follow those steps, and it will update?
Any idea why it never has for me?
I've used
1.48 WWE (Stock)
1.66 WWE (Stock)
Dutty's HG v.08
Dutty's HG v.09
and it has never worked for me one time in this way.
donalgodon said:
If disable my data connection, and enable WiFI, and then choose the Weather tab and Update Now... nothing happens. It tries... it fails. Always has on every ROM I've used.
Does it not do this for you, for example?
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No, if I do that it works perfectly.
I'd say you have a connectivity problem with your Wifi.. does it work to browse then net in Opera? Wouldn't you use a proxy by any chance?
that's sometimes a problem of synchronization of your wifi router and your device (e.g. dhcp or timeout reconnect of your wifi router)
try this:
switch on router and then wifi on your device.
then start quickgps and try to update.if it fails, then try again quickgps.
if it works on second time then it's because of this synchronization...but update weather should work now by wifi.
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No, if I do that it works perfectly.
I'd say you have a connectivity problem with your Wifi.. does it work to browse then net in Opera? Wouldn't you use a proxy by any chance?
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Opera and every other connection works. I think it has something to do with my location. It could be that my ISP or my service provider is part of the problem.
Oh one thing I forgot:
In wifi options, advanced, network cards, network cards tab, make sure it's set that your network card connects to the Internet, not Work.
That could be it.
I have a fascinate which i bought outright for use as a GPS / media player / itouch replacment and im having issues with the app marketplace...
Every time i try to set up the account using wifi it says could not establish a reliable data connection.
how can i get past this? is there some way i can trick the phone into thinking its running on a data network when its really going through wifi?
Also, every time i turn on the phone its asking me to unlock / set up the phone. i get out of this by using *#83786633 but its a bit annoying, is there anything else i can do? Its a verizon phone and im in canada, so no luck going to V. and asking them to fix it...
would putting a custom firmware on the device be of any use? i have rooted the phone, just cant download any apps through the marketplace. Is there a way to manually install apps through rooting?
My bet would be that you're not fully connected to wifi, to be getting that message. I've been using mine on wifi since I got it, and have set everything up fine. The only time I ran into that problem is when my router went out, it said I was connected but there really was no connection.
As far as the activation screen issue, no there really isn't any way around that. Its there because the phone really should be connected to a network. (And I'm not 100% sure if its going to connect to GPS without being connected to a data network? I've never tried.)
Well if I use airplane mode it turns my gps receiver off however if I use the code above it lets me use gps and wifi no problem. Hell I'm on wifi now on the phone but it won't connect the phone to my google account tho if I go to google.com it works fine.
Any ideas?
oops double post, mods plz delete this
The same happened on my Eris. Best bet is to use data to activate. Turn of syncs and then use wifi to sync. It cant be all that much data. Once your active you wont have a problem using the market and stuff over wifi. Thats what I had to do on the eris to use it as a wifi toy when i got my fas.
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