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hey all,
I'm not a developer by any means but I just read a post up on engadget about someone exploiting the Pre and able to flash any unsigned firmware and what not. And this got me thinking about if it was possible to port over a different OS, like Android.
here's the engadget post: HERE.
and here's the original poster's link: HERE.
So my question to the devs out there... now with this exploit, would it even be possible to port Android OS over to the Palm Pre phone? Or am I just dreaming up things lol.
Because the specs on the Pre are pretty impressive.
Just a thought. Don't hate... participate
Pre uses an ARM Cortex A8 which is ARMv7 architecture. Dream is using ARMv6 architecture. I dunno if v7 is considered a strict superset of v6 but if it is you could probably just recompile the AOSP code. As for the pre side of things, that post seems promising, but I can't help but feel there are probably some hidden things Mr. Troughton-Smith hasn't discovered yet, particularly in regards to flashing down to the bootloader. At the core, Pre runs on the linux kernel so atleast that part is promising.
Frankly though, I'd have to again ask why at this point in time anyone would want to buy a Pre to put Android on it. It costs a ton without a contract and has no GSM/UMTS, making it all but useless outside the United States.
Let me first clarify that I'm talking about in theory
It would theoretically be possible to cram X10i´s Android on Vivaz?
And vice versa again cram Vivaz´s Symbian onto X10i?
I think they have both 8 mega pixels and both video recording.
Both have three physical buttons at the bottom, and not least touchscreen .
However, the Vivaz not blink indicator.
Sry for my bad english .....
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Dong2007
Usually is pretty difficult to port an OS on a different phone.
Just like your windows at home, a phone needs drivers for everything and this means those drivers have to be available or written for that specific platform.
To answer your questions, yes, it is possible
It is doable in short time? Most likely no.
It took years for android to be ported on iphone 2g and 3g and is not ported yet on 3gs so, figure out how long will take to put symbian on X10 (personally i'm wondering who will want that. i got rid of my old phone simply because was running symbian).
That´s right, but now Android OS and iPhone OS, us two completely different Operating systems.
I think more that you could cram a modded X10i Android OS (With S/E UX) onto Vivaz (Since they both phones are from S/E) So you just missing and create driver for Screen and processor ??.
Know that it is not equal to
Can i install windows mobile 6.5 in Vivaz ???
dong2007 said:
That´s right, but now Android OS and iPhone OS, us two completely different Operating systems.
I think more that you could cram a modded X10i Android OS (With S/E UX) onto Vivaz (Since they both phones are from S/E) So you just missing and create driver for Screen and processor ??.
Know that it is not equal to
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Can i install windows mobile 6.5 in Vivaz ??? any !dea ?
From my experience with symbian (nokia 5800) i dont think you can port an os onto it, however since symbian is now open source it my well be possible
Vengeance
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Square peg round hole!
VIVAZ has just 75MB internal memory X10 has 1gb! ...even the X10 mini tops that with 53 mb more at 128mb! ... taking into consideration customizations/branding etc it could be more or less left over of the total!
It wont go!
It would be great, if we could get Android OS on Vivaz.
why not...
Google "jetdroid"
to see that its possible to install android on Samsung jet which is Java mobile
Please God not Symbian. Terrible software memories from my Vivaz experience which lasted a week before swapping out for a w995!
It was like trying to playing COD on a Commodore64
Why not?
Vivaz has got OMAP3630 720 MHz ARM Cortex A8 like Motorola Milestone 2.
Camera driver - maybe from X10?
There are Jetdroid and Wavedroid.. So why not Vivazdroid?
I have tried to make a compare...
But it could be nice with Android OS on Vivaz...
I dont think you really get it, its like trying to mate a snail with a tiger
dong2007 said:
I have tried to make a compare...
But it could be nice with Android OS on Vivaz...
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ballubas said:
I dont think you really get it, its like trying to mate a snail with a tiger
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Maybe, maybe not.
X8 have 3´ screen, 600Mhz, 168Mb Ram. It has worse hardware and it runs Android
A friend of mine has a Vivaz and has just today asked me whether it would be possible to install Android. From the hardware requirements, it would be possible.
Is it possible or not? Where can I make myself smart or where there are instructions for it? He would like to flash his Vivaz with Android, Symbian so down! He asked me to make me smart and then maybe flash to be Vivaz with Android.
im also looking to flash a cfw to the vivaz, my girlfriend got one and is moaning that she hates it, i have had a look and it is a pos, dunno how it got go ahead to be made. looking to get rid of symbian, (never been a fan) and put android, or wm, or anything better then what it currently has.
is there any update on this theme >?
@x10mike,, LOL !!!!!
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(VIVAZ has just 75MB internal memory X10 has 1gb! ...even the X10 mini tops that with 53 mb more at 128mb! ... taking into consideration customizations/branding etc it could be more or less left over of the total!
It wont go!)
++1 ,, You are right!
ive got a vivaz as well and its poo. id love to have the android os on it. i was just wondering is there any way to at least update the symbian os? even if only to symbian ^2?
I know how to get android on the vivaz... get an Xperia Neo
hehe, lame joke, i know.
I also had the vivaz before my x10..hated it from day 2..lol. I couldn't get past the small screen much less the symbian os my brother warned me about. Took it back well within my 30days..
I've been interested in starting a project like this since I read the specifications of the MT6236 chip, and now I'm starting this thread with hope that this will turn into a real project of running Android on MT6236-based phones.
For those of you that don't know MT6236 is one of the chips mostly implemented in chinese mobile phone knockoffs. However, the chips specification look like it could run Android.
It has a ARM9 @312MHz processor which is AFAIK the most generic thing I could write but it also sounds possible to run Android.
MT6236 official page
I used this for reference for Android requirements:
http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/system_requirements.html
So what do you say people, could we make something out of this? Or just shoot me down.
For full touch fones it is possible but guess noone is willing to be mad cause of different key layouts
Before anyone says anything, no, this is not another topic asking the stupid, worn out question "can I haz w8 on my kindle fire/nook/transformer prime/galaxySII/ect"
At CES there are several android devices being shown off with x86 processors: Intel atom CPUs. Would it be possible, provided internal storage is big enough, to be able to run the full version of windows 8 on these pieces of hardware? I can't think of any reasons why not, and being able to run full versions of x86 windows off of a cell phone is just amazing. IMHO it'd be worth the price of a seat of windows 8, and dual booting with android ICS sounds incredible. So, is there anything I'm missing? Or would the hardware support it fairly easily? I can't think of any roadblocks, other than the annoyance of installing off of microSD.
I think this must be a new kind of Atom-CPUs that are built for the ARM-architecture on which Android runs? I red somewhere that they wanted to release that Kind of CPUs this year.
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No, they're definitely x86 chips.
If it has BIOS/EFI it will be done
mtmerrick said:
Before anyone says anything, no, this is not another topic asking the stupid, worn out question "can I haz w8 on my kindle fire/nook/transformer prime/galaxySII/ect"
At CES there are several android devices being shown off with x86 processors: Intel atom CPUs. Would it be possible, provided internal storage is big enough, to be able to run the full version of windows 8 on these pieces of hardware? I can't think of any reasons why not, and being able to run full versions of x86 windows off of a cell phone is just amazing. IMHO it'd be worth the price of a seat of windows 8, and dual booting with android ICS sounds incredible. So, is there anything I'm missing? Or would the hardware support it fairly easily? I can't think of any roadblocks, other than the annoyance of installing off of microSD.
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Why bother about it being on x86, windows 8 will run on ARM architecture too if I'm not mistaken
Because putting W8ARM on existing devices is probably impossible and quite likely to be illegal.
Not sure why it would be illegal. If you own a license of the OS, you should be able to run it on whatever you want - unless, like the Apple stuff there's some kind of EULA that states that you specifically can't. I seriously doubt MS would bother to screw with people who tried anyway.
The Developer Preview of W8 is x86/x64 only anyway. Hopefully the beta coming in February will Feb will have arm support. I'm hoping to get it working on a Galaxy Tab 10.1 but who knows?
One potential caveat. I've heard that the ARM version will only work with Metro apps. If that's the case, it will be far less useful. Forget running all that excellent software you already have and know an love.
Greg
Microsoft (and the hardware manufacturers of current Android devices) don't want this to happen on ARM devices, because having an open bootloader and a myriad of Linux distributions would hurt their ecosystems. All ARM W8 tablets will come with locked bootloaders by specification, just like Android ones. Existing Android devices and others like the TouchPad will be very difficult to port this to because the bootloader security is different from current devices. But who wants ARM Windows 8 as the old apps and desktop don't work on it?
Regarding x86: If it's possible on the HTC Shift, it will sure be possible on Medfield (next-gen Atom for phones) devices, especially if the bootloader is open. If it's closed the scene will figure out how to unlock it and install Windows 7/W8/Ubuntu/etc. on it just like on a regular PC, which would mean having access to all legacy apps. Of course dual boot would also be possible.
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Not sure why it would be illegal. If you own a license of the OS, you should be able to run it on whatever you want - unless, like the Apple stuff there's some kind of EULA that states that you specifically can't. I seriously doubt MS would bother to screw with people who tried anyway.
The Developer Preview of W8 is x86/x64 only anyway. Hopefully the beta coming in February will Feb will have arm support. I'm hoping to get it working on a Galaxy Tab 10.1 but who knows?
One potential caveat. I've heard that the ARM version will only work with Metro apps. If that's the case, it will be far less useful. Forget running all that excellent software you already have and know an love.
Greg
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Since only OEMs will be able to buy W8 ARM liscences, and liscences are not device transferable, you will not be allowed to port it to a non-liscenced device, just like Windows Mobile or WP7.
And no, W8ARM will not be able to run x86 programs.
I think there's an excellent chance that private users will be able to get a copy of W8 for arm.
And whether or not x86 code will run in the arm version is definitely not settled.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/07/desktop-apps-may-run-on-win8-for-arm-after-all-maybe/
I read that article and laughed. Never once did they mention ARM - they were reffering to the 'classic desktop' UI, and they can't decide if W8ARM will be metro only, or have the (for ARM) near useless classic desktop.
Give up all hope that W8ARM will have an emulator built in. Its not going to happen, performance will be so terrible it would alienate customers. W8ARM will not be available to consumers for the same reason WP7 isn't - Microsoft would loose too much control and non-techie customers would be too confused.
Not sure but does this mean windows 8 on a Cisco Cius is possible cause it has an Intel atom processor?
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if it has an atom processor, it should be. as with anything cross-platform, drivers would be an issue, but that shouldn't be too hard to overcome.
That's pretty awesome
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yes right, i am agree with u
I personally hope intel medfield kills off any arm competitors in the windows 8 tablet business. I am not happy with how closed arm can be compared to x86.
The arm architecture is more open than x86. But indeed you can do more on x86 based hardware as there is more software available for it.
moved to general
As long as your x86 Android netbook can boot from USB storage and isn't locked into the OSes that it came with, I guess it could be possible as long as the amount of RAM and internal storage meet the minimum requirements.
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x86 instruction sets are one thing but drivers are a whole different ball game.
But in theory yes, Win 8 x86 could run on x86 android hardware, with several very large assumptions being made
as for ARM, I think we can forget x86 emulation, the overheads would cripple it. To be honest, I personally wouldn't have a use for an ARM tablet, an x86 tablet however would be very useful, so come on Intel, get your finger out and give us some affordable ultra low watt x86 SoCs, keep it cheap an OEMS will trip over them selves buying them, after all, backward compatibility means les overheads for companies and less hassle for users.
I've ordered a U8 smartwatch off Amazon.co.uk and when I get it I want to toy with it but I am just wondering if anyone has attempted to put android on it?
not possible, specs are way too low for that
What about the u10?
Could you put android on the u10 smart watch?
no
even though RAM is bigger, it's still only 128mb
processor is only 300mhz
chinese smartwatches don't have the specs to run anything but the limited firmware they have preinstalled
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chinese smartwatches don't have the specs to run anything but the limited firmware they have preinstalled
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False. There are multiple Chinese smartwatches that run Android.
hmm, i was thinking android wear, android would require a cellular modem, no?
Not necessarily. The cell side in Android can be hidden, like how a lot of tablets have hidden dialers in them even when they didn't have cell radios. I would not be surprised if there's a lot of cellphone specific code in Wear as well.
As far as Wear, if one had full source they could compile a working Wear build for a number of Chinese smartwatches. In fact, Com1 did it on their prototype, but because they were not part of Google's exclusive "Wear Partners" club, Google shut Com1 down.
for both android and android wear you'd need drivers though, to access all hardware, so you would need a kernel specific for the watch
available?
Most Chinese smartwatches are MTK based, so no.
so it's not possible then
Depends. The TS has a custom ROM and git which was cobbled together from multiple bits of sourcecode. It's mostly a matter of how much work one wants to put into it.