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Got a little present in the mail today

Long story short, moved to a new house, Sprint service sucked (not even one bar) at the new house. Called Sprint, ***** ***** *****... Airvana. Im not a photographer, i barely had the patience to take these pics while holding myself back from not hooking it up faster. Its still initializing, book says GPS can take up to half an hour... if not gotta hook up the external GPS antenna. Mobile portion can take up to two hours so im just gonna be here on the computer waiting until then. Ill update as things move along, for now heres the flicks.
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Good luck - I had one of the 1st Gen and it worked pretty well... with the issues I have at the house they should be sending me one soon...

Yo it's JR from B20 (sick srt4)
I heard about that a while back but never actually saw one. Let me know how it works out I might want to get that in my office.

jerdog said:
Good luck - I had one of the 1st Gen and it worked pretty well... with the issues I have at the house they should be sending me one soon...
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Thanks man, how far did your coverage go... do you remember? like only a floor away, outside, etc??
AndersonAirChris said:
Yo it's JR from B20 (sick srt4)
I heard about that a while back but never actually saw one. Let me know how it works out I might want to get that in my office.
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whats up kid, your first post on my thread? i feel honored lol. yea its still activatin like i said on fbook but as soon as it does, i got you.

oreoOozZz said:
Thanks man, how far did your coverage go... do you remember? like only a floor away, outside, etc??
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It was actually pretty good - but it was also first gen - so as soon as my phone was out of range it would drop the call I was on. they now do "hot-swap" where it will seamlessly (supposedly) switch between the tower and the Airave

jerdog said:
It was actually pretty good - but it was also first gen - so as soon as my phone was out of range it would drop the call I was on. they now do "hot-swap" where it will seamlessly (supposedly) switch between the tower and the Airave
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Damn that must have been aggrivating because i definetly would have forgot and always dropped calls lol. Thanks for the info though man.
Update: It was taking forever to find a GPS signal (over an hour, i gave it a little extra) so i finally connected the external GPS antenna and the light went green solid (found location) almost instantly. Unfortunately the mobile light startin blinking amber which means i have no service... the receipt that they give you says it should be activated when you recieve the unit but i guess thats not true, time to start jonesin on the phone with Sprint again. Ill post back and lets you guys know what happened when im through.

K, just got off the phone with sprint and for some reason they had the wrong mac address in the system. That is the reason why the unit wasnt activated. I power cycled both my router and the airave like they said to do, router is obviously back up and running fine... on the airave broadband is solid, GPS is solid but mobile is still flashing green. The rep said it can take up to 4 hours to activate so im not gonna hold my breath. Gonna stay on the comp for a few, do what i gotta do and hopefully it activates in the process.

Cost?
Usually it's like 4.95 a month.. how much are you paying? or is sprint footing the bill? this should be interesting

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Usually it's like 4.95 a month.. how much are you paying? or is sprint footing the bill? this should be interesting
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All free my man, they waived the $4.95 a month for 2 yrs ( they said just call after 2 yrs and they will extend it another 2 yrs free ) and the $199 or whatever it is unit fee. I had been called a few times in the last 2 months since i got my evo and went through all the hoops they asked me to jump through ( factory resets, things on my end, things on their end )... nothing worked. I called a couple of days ago and pretty much told them, this is it... if they cant do something about the crappy service, im going to *CANCEL*. I wasnt an ass, the lady on the phone was extremely nice... she even stayed an hour late just to try and fix it for me. I didnt mention anything about an airave, i just said im still having bad service and its not the phone... im fed up. That phone could have caught on fire how fast they transferred me to retentions, within minutes i had one sent out to me free of charge.

I'm jealous. Just have my ****ty first-gen Airave.

TheBiles said:
I'm jealous. Just have my ****ty first-gen Airave.
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Call up! See if your eligible for an upgrade. I've seen post about it like wildfire all over the net, they just call and get a free replacement.
On another note, it JUST started working now. 2 calls to airave support and finally a click of the reset button and within minutes its all synced and working. DEFINETLY makes a difference. i had 0 i repeat, 0 bars in my home. Everywhere else 5-6 bars, now i have 5-6 bars in my house. 3G and everything, calls are perfectly clear. Awesomeness all around.
Thanks Sprint, for doing what my phone should have done in the first place now.

oreoOozZz said:
Call up! See if your eligible for an upgrade. I've seen post about it like wildfire all over the net, they just call and get a free replacement.
On another note, it JUST started working now. 2 calls to airave support and finally a click of the reset button and within minutes its all synced and working. DEFINETLY makes a difference. i had 0 i repeat, 0 bars in my home. Everywhere else 5-6 bars, now i have 5-6 bars in my house. 3G and everything, calls are perfectly clear. Awesomeness all around.
Thanks Sprint, for doing what my phone should have done in the first place now.
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I'm up for the upgrade, but I have to haul my lazy ass into the Sprint store to pick one up.

Seeing this thread inspired me to give them a call, mine should be here in a couple days. I have been thinking of getting one for a while, just the fact that it uses VOIP for calls within it's range and doesn't use your minutes makes it worth it. I've been a Sprint customer for about 9yrs so I got it for free with free service.

Damn, we need one of these. But according to their coverage maps, we have perfect signal at the office and home, do you think I can ***** at them enough to get one for free?

TheBiles said:
I'm up for the upgrade, but I have to haul my lazy ass into the Sprint store to pick one up.
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So totally worth it.
ausch30 said:
Seeing this thread inspired me to give them a call, mine should be here in a couple days. I have been thinking of getting one for a while, just the fact that it uses VOIP for calls within it's range and doesn't use your minutes makes it worth it. I've been a Sprint customer for about 9yrs so I got it for free with free service.
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Good stuff man, best of luck! If you need any help just give me a shout but its pretty self-explanitory.
Hrshycro said:
Damn, we need one of these. But according to their coverage maps, we have perfect signal at the office and home, do you think I can ***** at them enough to get one for free?
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My house is directly smack dab in the middle of a PERFECT coverage zone, they say they have no idea how this happens in my location. They might make you jump through a few hoops and turn the phone off, reset it, bla bla bla but after they see nothing works... tell them your going to cancel and they will transfer you to retention = airave. Let me know if you need any help too.
But yea, this thing is MONEY in the house... as soon as you walk outside though, dead lol. One guy said it doesnt go past 20 FT... i dont think hes kidding lol. I dont care though because im never really on my phone outside my house plus my airave is in the basement so its kind of understandable.

oreoOozZz said:
But yea, this thing is MONEY in the house... as soon as you walk outside though, dead lol. One guy said it doesnt go past 20 FT... i dont think hes kidding lol. I dont care though because im never really on my phone outside my house plus my airave is in the basement so its kind of understandable.
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20ft??? I am getting a good 5 or 600 feet out of mine.. No joke.. I can leave my apartment complex and make a call and still in Airave coverage.. For kicks I went down the street a little ways and made a few phone calls and had my wife checking the Airave. As soon as I made a call she was able to notice the mobile light start to blink on the new airave.
Extremely awesome coverage. I can finally drown out the other Airave in my area thats setup as private..
James

oreoOozZz said:
My house is directly smack dab in the middle of a PERFECT coverage zone, they say they have no idea how this happens in my location. They might make you jump through a few hoops and turn the phone off, reset it, bla bla bla but after they see nothing works... tell them your going to cancel and they will transfer you to retention = airave. Let me know if you need any help too.
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I'll try, because I actually do get dropped calls at both places. I have the 2 phones force PRL roaming at the office because the data service from the tower it connects to out there is at 0.025 Kbps - not kidding! It can't even send a google voice text until the 5th try.

ausch30 said:
just the fact that it uses VOIP for calls within it's range and doesn't use your minutes makes it worth it.
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Not true I was told it will still use minutes but for 10 a month it would be unlimited calls while connected to it..i have not gotten a bill yet to confirm. Only repeating what sprint said...

cj10488 said:
20ft??? I am getting a good 5 or 600 feet out of mine.. No joke.. I can leave my apartment complex and make a call and still in Airave coverage.. For kicks I went down the street a little ways and made a few phone calls and had my wife checking the Airave. As soon as I made a call she was able to notice the mobile light start to blink on the new airave.
Extremely awesome coverage. I can finally drown out the other Airave in my area thats setup as private..
James
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Thats awesome man, your in an apartment complex so im guessing you have your airave located on the 2nd floor somewhere high in the apartment. Like i said mine is in the basement so i think thats what cuts a good amount of the coverage. Im okay with that though because inside my house is really only the problem. As soon as i went outside i did the *99 and got an error message instead of the airave message. I still get anywhere from 2-4 bars outside from the tower so its cool. The coverage you are getting is ridic man, thats pretty far.
Hrshycro said:
I'll try, because I actually do get dropped calls at both places. I have the 2 phones force PRL roaming at the office because the data service from the tower it connects to out there is at 0.025 Kbps - not kidding! It can't even send a google voice text until the 5th try.
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I totally know what thats like! I wouldnt even get one bar in my house, i would never get any phone calls. When i did try to make a call by the window with one bar, it would always drop. So frustrating. Then i started doing the same thing as you, making the phone force roam. I tried to do the 1.40 PRI update like a bajillion times and for some reason like others, i guess whatever reset or restore we did messed up the roaming. When the phone would roam and i would go to make a call, i would get an error message from Verizon saying the number couldnt be authenticated. When i went to send a text it would give me the could not send error. That was the last straw, i shouldnt even have to force roam my phone to go on another network in the first friggin place... ridiculous. Thats when i called man and now everything is good to go with the airave. Definetly give them a call and if they ask you to pay for it... threaten to cancel, they will send it.
sprink0281 said:
Not true I was told it will still use minutes but for 10 a month it would be unlimited calls while connected to it..i have not gotten a bill yet to confirm. Only repeating what sprint said...
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Yea i heard that somewhere too, idk i guess ill see how my usage shows up on the bill and let you guys know. Somebody else even said that on the new airaves they arent offering that $10 unlimited plan anymore. Who knows.
5-6 Bars of EVDO, everywhere in my house. Actually making/receiving calls. Loving it.

How are your data speeds? Can you run a couple speedtests for us? And how do they compare to other places around you (where you get decent coverage).

[Q] Sprint Voice & SMS Network DOWN (WI) !!

Well its back up right now (i think) i dont have any one to call right now but the network was down until 20:45~20:50 CST in SE WI. my friend called me on a land-line and told me he was trying to call me. The data on my phone worked the hole time. But 99.9% of out going calls failed and 100% incoming calls failed 100% SMS fail!!!!! I did get two calls to go threw to a AT&T land-line
NOW HEARS THE PROBLEM (SPRINT CAN YOU HEAR ME!) why cant Sprint have emailed us all i understand ith happens and stuff brakes & goes down BUT WHY THE HELL couldn't they of EMAILED us all to let us know that people would not be able to get a hold of us with are SPRINT PHONES!!!!!!
Check the "No data 3G" & the other problem you had on the poll if your data & voice/sms was down.
So lets hears it how many people had no Voice/SMS today? And it would be nice to put your State/City or the Area your in.
Thanks i just kinda want to see the numbers
I'm so ready to go back to Verizon 6 years with them & never a problem (but i REALLY like my Epic :-/ )

http://community.sprint.com/baw/thr...95.app6jive2?start=15&tstart=0&reqsorting=dec
Channel 4 WTMJ in Milwaukee
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/107618403.html

WOW i guess theirs no one on hear from Wisconsin, Any how i got a free mouth from them They still suck and i am pissed they did not even email us about it and i may still just dump them and go with. U.S. Cell or back to Verizon

Sorry for your troubles. It's odd, even in the nationwide Sprint outages, I never had any issues. I must be in the one area where things don't break.
EDIT: Not in WI, just sayin'.

k0nane said:
Sorry for your troubles. It's odd, even in the nationwide Sprint outages, I never had any issues. I must be in the one area where things don't break.
EDIT: Not in WI, just sayin'.
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Well most of the time all the traffic works grate at your Location lol

zman519 said:
Well most of the time all the traffic works grate at your Location lol
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I don't follow.

127.0.0.1 loopback ;-)

Roam Control is the fix. Force your phone off the sprint network.

Humm I would have got the app if I had known about it on Friday :-/ but now that its back up idk if I really need it.
So I take it your a fan of the app, has it saved ur phone calls when sprint went down before?

I use roam control while I am at work since I only get 1 bar to nothing while there if I am on sprint but if I switch to roaming I have full signal. Also helps out a lot with battery too. If I leave it on auto I leave work with 20% left and that's with out using my phone. If I switch to roaming I usually leave with a lot more left.
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Cool sounds like that would help my battery when my ohone is sitting on my main PC desk. Its always going back andforth. I know there's. A ton of USB ports there but why plug it in every time iam using my computer.
P.S. its the $3.99 app in the markit ?

I had no issues at all (or any other time, really, except maybe once, and that issue was specific to the Hero). I'm not in SE WI, I'm up near Green Bay. Though looking at the link to the Sprint site it looks like I would have been affected as well. But I had no issues at all. And frankly, even if it was down, I didn't notice.
And I don't really see what you're getting so upset about to be honest. Yeah, it sucks when stuff goes down, but I think the "I"M GOING BACK TO VERIZON" statement was a little extreme. Have you had other problems with Sprint? All in all, it was down for what, 10 minutes? That's nothing. The longest I ever had an issue was back when I still used the stock ROM on my hero, and MMS wasn't working for a few weeks. Honestly, though, what good would them sending an email have done? That late in the evening, most people are eating, or out doing whatever (bars, partying, etc), not checking their email, so by the time most people got the email, the issue would already have been resolved. And they did put out a tweet from @sprint, their official account : http://twitter.com/sprint. Sure, it's not really a channel most people follow, and probably one of the last places people would expect to look, but the point is that they acknowledged the issue. And it looks like the whole 10 minutes you were affected was actually far less than others, I read some users stating that the outage lasted all day.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I've had a solid experience with Sprint the last 3 years or so, I'm not going to switch carriers just because of something like this. They've always been super nice about giving me credits for all sorts of things, ringtones/games that I couldn't transfer from one phone to another, and a few other issues. I feel like their customer service has always been top notch for me, and one day of not being able to talk/text is really no big deal for me.

zman519 said:
Cool sounds like that would help my battery when my ohone is sitting on my main PC desk. Its always going back andforth. I know there's. A ton of USB ports there but why plug it in every time iam using my computer.
P.S. its the $3.99 app in the markit ?
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Yeah it is the one in the market for $3.99. Just make sure you plan is set up for roaming otherwise you might end up with charges you didnt plan on. Especially when it comes to data roaming.

SirRipo said:
I had no issues at all (or any other time, really, except maybe once, and that issue was specific to the Hero). I'm not in SE WI, I'm up near Green Bay. Though looking at the link to the Sprint site it looks like I would have been affected as well. But I had no issues at all. And frankly, even if it was down, I didn't notice.
And I don't really see what you're getting so upset about to be honest. Yeah, it sucks when stuff goes down, but I think the "I"M GOING BACK TO VERIZON" statement was a little extreme. Have you had other problems with Sprint? All in all, it was down for what, 10 minutes? That's nothing. The longest I ever had an issue was back when I still used the stock ROM on my hero, and MMS wasn't working for a few weeks. Honestly, though, what good would them sending an email have done? That late in the evening, most people are eating, or out doing whatever (bars, partying, etc), not checking their email, so by the time most people got the email, the issue would already have been resolved. And they did put out a tweet from @sprint, their official account : http://twitter.com/sprint. Sure, it's not really a channel most people follow, and probably one of the last places people would expect to look, but the point is that they acknowledged the issue. And it looks like the whole 10 minutes you were affected was actually far less than others, I read some users stating that the outage lasted all day.
Basically, what I'm saying is that I've had a solid experience with Sprint the last 3 years or so, I'm not going to switch carriers just because of something like this. They've always been super nice about giving me credits for all sorts of things, ringtones/games that I couldn't transfer from one phone to another, and a few other issues. I feel like their customer service has always been top notch for me, and one day of not being able to talk/text is really no big deal for me.
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I see your points, But it was down for hours on a Friday NOT 10 minutes & the 3G was still up so i would have seen said email. This has not been Totally fixed yet Visual Voicemail is down right now. You can leave me a vmail & i will get it if i dial 1 on the phone but theirs no notification that you have x number of vmails
So if your phone is having voice mail problems its most likely NOT your phone and its still sprint having problems. One sprint tech told me it was the hole U.S. and another tech said it was still from Fridays (SE WI) problem & that they are still working to fix it
SirRipo your right its not really getting that upset about its just a phone

For me I have everything to complain about when it comes to Sprint service. This outage that just happened on friday night really set me over the top. The only thing that I'm happy about is the fact that it affected lots of people and not just people in my "neighborhood". I live in South Milwaukee, WI and there is a tower somewhere near my house that FAILS at least 3 to 4 times a year. And when it fails I'm not saying hours of service lost, I'm talking DAYS!!! Every time it happens I call Sprint and they do a test on the towers in my area and I hear the same reply out of their mouths when they figure out the problem, they say, "wow, now that's not a good thing" Well if it's not a good thing then why does it continue to happen every 3 months or so. And the sucky thing about it is the fact it usually happens for the entire weekend. At first I thought that was happening all over again, but this issue was different and affected lots of people. So I guess my question is if this happens again, which I know it will from the track record, do you think I would be able to opt out of my contract without having to pay a termination fee? Sprint says that it's up to the customer service rep that handles my termination of service call whether or not I would be charged a fee or not. The way I see it is if the service continues to fail where I live for days on end why should I have to pay a fee? I know that T-Mobile has 4G up and running here in Milwaukee with the HSPA+ and Sprint doesn't have 4G here at all, and who knows now long it's going to take them to get it. Sprint in my area either works, and works very well, or it's just not there at all, there is no in between.

jaygraffix Thats BS!
i was with sprint years back & i was never happy with them then but i thought that maybe things have changed. I have some time in my 30 days left to dump there ass, I just thought the price was right. (and i love the Epic) But after this BS and hearing jaygraffix problems in a city just a little south of me that i'am in all the time i just may have to move on to there competition.
The fact is sprint nextel is a multi billion dollar corporation and its not going to hit there bottom line to completely replace the tower by jaygraffix house! And i should not have to talk with 6 sprint reps about the VVM not working today & have the finale rep offer me a hole $8.00 credit when the Tech support rep i was talking to before OFFERED ME $25.00 WTF and because i wanted to talk with a CS manager (and did) he only gives me the $8 WTF! less than the guy i was talking to before him! NOW TELL ME YOU WOULD NOT BE PISSED AFTER THAT HAPPENED TO YOU
Maybe if every one in SE WI would dump them all on the same day they would take a hint! (fees & all be DAMED) When i started this tread i was really hoping to see 1000's of hits on the poll but i guess there are just not that many people on this forum from around my area. I Totally see now why Verizon costs what it does.

So let's see here, in the last week Sprint:

* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.

they also went from this...
sprint said:
Overview
Rooting a phone (or getting root) is the process of modifying the operating system on a
device to obtain complete control over it. By rooting a device, the user can then alter certain
built-in functionality of the device. Rooting is strongly discouraged by Sprint and device
manufacturers.
If the customer is experiencing issues that are suspect to be caused by rooting the device
Step Action
1
Educate the customer on the risks involved in rooting their device:
• Rooting can cause irreparable damage to the device.
• Rooting can result in an inoperable device.
• Rooting may result in all customer data and customizations being lost.
2
Open and eTicket and exchange the device per standard Advanced Exchange
procedures.
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to this...
sprint said:
We can, without notice, suspend or terminate any Service at any time for any reason. For example, we can suspend or terminate any Service for the following: (i) modifying a Device from its manufacturer specifications (for example, rooting the device); or (l) if we believe the action protects our interests, any customer's interests, or our networks.
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if you don't like it, jump ship and go away. what do you think complaining on a hacker forum is going to do?

Hrshycro said:
* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
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I must agree with you. I'm just waiting for the iPhone or nexus prime to come out.
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AbsolutZeroGI said:
if you don't like it, jump ship and go away. what do you think complaining on a hacker forum is going to do?
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Agreed, we already have multiple threads on these topics as well.

[email protected] forum. i know a lot of yous guys think "u r leet haxor", but it aint real.

austin420 said:
[email protected] forum. i know a lot of yous guys think "u r leet haxor", but it aint real.
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I'm not elite at anything, but this is a hacker forum not desperate housewives of sprint. hacker (hobbyist) = who makes innovative customizations or combinations of retail electronic and computer equipment.
I also know the origins of elite, which most kids don't

The guy was venting. If someone venting on a public forum really disrupt your life than wow to you all. Op i personally feel you but I'm with Sprint for the long haul.
*Edit*
Things to look forward too.
It looks like Sprint might be upgrading the existing EVDO Rev A network to Rev B.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...rk to Rev B.&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13161314229133
There is also a new video on network vision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_jpIdr_uw

cdszoke said:
The guy was venting. If someone venting on a public forum really disrupt your life than wow to you all.
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OP posted the same thread in the 3D general AND on Engadget's Facebook post about this topic.
Its fine, he's upset.
So am I.
But there are already threads on this topic and in complete truth its not going to do any good to complain here.
Contact [email protected].
Post on their Facebook.
Post on the Sprint forums.
Or just move to a different carrier.
Those are much more productive ways of handling this.

mattykinsx said:
OP posted the same thread in the 3D general AND on Engadget's Facebook post about this topic.
Its fine, he's upset.
So am I.
But there are already threads on this topic and in complete truth its not going to do any good to complain here.
Contact [email protected].
Post on their Facebook.
Post on the Sprint forums.
Or just move to a different carrier.
Those are much more productive ways of handling this.
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Yeah, I've done that; talked to Tamera in Dan's office, who opened an advance support ticket for me, where I was told the tower by my house (50k 3G for over a year now) would be upgraded by Sept 17th. On the first Friday of Aug., at 8:30PM, from a guy called and said that they weren't going to be able to get it fixed until Dec 31st...and I'm sure Dec 31st will turn into May 27st, and that'll turn into October 2015. :|
Sprint is really, really good at lying and getting absolutely nothing done. They need to take a few pages out of Apple's book.
And as far as this whole Network Vision goes, it sounds great, and I'm excited about it, but 3 years to complete it? The world went from 3G to 4G within 3 year's time! Wayyy too long to roll it out. Verizon will have LTE in 90% of America within 3 years. :|

Hrshycro said:
Sprint is really, really good at lying and getting absolutely nothing done. They need to take a few pages out of Apple's book.
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Everyone I know with an iPhone loves it and AT&T's service. And I'd like to see HTC exchange my EVO 2 times within the first month, like Apple did for my new MacBook Air.

[QUOTE="Hrshycro, post: 17589122, m...ike Apple did for my new MacBook Air.[/QUOTE]
I was with at&t for six years. Service was horrible the last year and a half. Plus, who wants to pay extra for data usage? Idk about you guys but I am averaging 5-6gb a month. And HTC wont replace your evo twice in a month...mainly because they make quality products that don't break, unlike apple.

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And as far as this whole Network Vision goes, it sounds great, and I'm excited about it, but 3 years to complete it? The world went from 3G to 4G within 3 year's time! Wayyy too long to roll it out. Verizon will have LTE in 90% of America within 3 years. :|
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That's how long it is going to take.
Verizon started on their LTE network in 2008.
Also, Verizon may have LTE like that in 3 years but that's exactly what Sprint Vision is. All towers will have "4g"

Granted, Verizon has several years headstart in implementing LTE, but unless I misunderstood what you wrote, Sprint's 4G is definitely not LTE. Sprint is using the inferior Clearwire WiMAX format, so they'll be starting from scratch when moving to LTE. If Sprint handles the move to LTE with all of the efficiency that they've handled the addition of WiMAX, Sprint will have it nation-wide in maybe 2023.
I had also read quite some time ago that Sprint would start marketing phones that support both WiMAX and LTE to help with that transition, but I just cannot see them doing that. I forsee that they're going to sell WiMAX phones right up until the day they move to LTE and then say, "Sorry, you'll have to purchase a new phone to use the 4G in your area...well, one day...when we get it to your area...maybe".
It amuses me that Sprint isn't interested in providing its customers with the highest quality, most powerful, daily user devices like the Evo 4G+ (Evo 3D - 3D + 1080p/8mp camera) or even any of the newer, high-end single-core devices. Its all marketing and they are only interested in being "First".
"Proud to introduce the FIRST 4G phone on the market (even though 90% of Evo 4G customers will be on their next phone before we'll have 4G anywhere near them)".
"The FIRST phone with a built in WiFi hotspot (no, there isn't one built into the Android OS! Its..an illusion! Only we have it! Only we have it!)".
"The FIRST 3D phone on the market (even though this is a mostly useless gimmick on a phone and just enabling the 3D-mode will eat your battery so fast you can see the inidcator moving, but we're playing on the fact that MARKETING has US consumers on a 3D kick via 3D TV's & BluRay players which unlike a 3D cellphone, are practical, useable devices)."
As others have pointed out, over the last several months Sprint has gotten rid of every reason to be with Sprint except one, and that it they're not throttling or limiting badwidth...officially...yet. Unofficially, I wonder what is the purpose for the http & rtsp data proxy servers all unmodified Sprint phones go through.
Sprint's story when we got our Evo 4G's was that the $10 per-line charge was, "... to cover the cost of the premium 4G data". I was told this on the phone. "Well, we don't have 4G here and won't have it anytime soon." "Oh, we just meant the premium data plan. We're charging the $10 instead of limiting data usage like other carriers do."
For those not old enough to recall how Sprint made their name in the cellphone industry, it was by a huge ad campaign making fun of all the other companys having daytime and nighttime minutes. Then one day, after Sprint was an established player in the market, all of those advertisements went away. A year or two later, all new Sprint cellphone plans had daytime and nighttime minutes. I wonder when they'll start limiting or throttling bandwidth...its only a matter of time.
This doesn't single out Sprint. They're just like any other piece of crap corporation that would slit our throats in a New York moment if it would improve their quarterly statement 1/100 of a percent.
As for Sprint Reps or any other character that would generally give someone crap because they post generally critical information regarding the carrier that they got their Evo 4G from, for folks like AbsolutZeroGI, I have another thought. Those same rights that enable folks like Hrshycro, austin420 and me to post our thoughts in this General forum setup just for such non-specific topics, also gives you rights.
You didn't have to click the link to this thread, to read it, to agree with it or to comment on it. It doesn't matter if there have been 100 threads on this or similar topics posted before this one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hrshycro beginning this thread, or with anyone else contributing to it.
The sad end result of all of this is that the only reason that you even stayed on this thread after reading the OP was to post some smartass, insulting remark. That is your entire purpose for being here. So, I'd like to thank you for setting yet another example of what is killing the xda-developers forums. This is why people stop posting helpful thoughts and information. This is why many awesome devs have left xda and only work off of their own websites, or have gone away entirely. I hope that you stand proud.
Thank you for your time.

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Granted, Verizon has several years headstart in implementing LTE, but unless I misunderstood what you wrote, Sprint's 4G is definitely not LTE. Sprint is using the inferior Clearwire WiMAX format, so they'll be starting from scratch when moving to LTE. If Sprint handles the move to LTE with all of the efficiency that they've handled the addition of WiMAX, Sprint will have it nation-wide in maybe 2023.
I had also read quite some time ago that Sprint would start marketing phones that support both WiMAX and LTE to help with that transition, but I just cannot see them doing that. I forsee that they're going to sell WiMAX phones right up until the day they move to LTE and then say, "Sorry, you'll have to purchase a new phone to use the 4G in your area...well, one day...when we get it to your area...maybe".
It amuses me that Sprint isn't interested in providing its customers with the highest quality, most powerful, daily user devices like the Evo 4G+ (Evo 3D - 3D + 1080p/8mp camera) or even any of the newer, high-end single-core devices. Its all marketing and they are only interested in being "First".
"Proud to introduce the FIRST 4G phone on the market (even though 90% of Evo 4G customers will be on their next phone before we'll have 4G anywhere near them)".
"The FIRST phone with a built in WiFi hotspot (no, there isn't one built into the Android OS! Its..an illusion! Only we have it! Only we have it!)".
"The FIRST 3D phone on the market (even though this is a mostly useless gimmick on a phone and just enabling the 3D-mode will eat your battery so fast you can see the inidcator moving, but we're playing on the fact that MARKETING has US consumers on a 3D kick via 3D TV's & BluRay players which unlike a 3D cellphone, are practical, useable devices)."
As others have pointed out, over the last several months Sprint has gotten rid of every reason to be with Sprint except one, and that it they're not throttling or limiting badwidth...officially...yet. Unofficially, I wonder what is the purpose for the http & rtsp data proxy servers all unmodified Sprint phones go through.
Sprint's story when we got our Evo 4G's was that the $10 per-line charge was, "... to cover the cost of the premium 4G data". I was told this on the phone. "Well, we don't have 4G here and won't have it anytime soon." "Oh, we just meant the premium data plan. We're charging the $10 instead of limiting data usage like other carriers do."
For those not old enough to recall how Sprint made their name in the cellphone industry, it was by a huge ad campaign making fun of all the other companys having daytime and nighttime minutes. Then one day, after Sprint was an established player in the market, all of those advertisements went away. A year or two later, all new Sprint cellphone plans had daytime and nighttime minutes. I wonder when they'll start limiting or throttling bandwidth...its only a matter of time.
This doesn't single out Sprint. They're just like any other piece of crap corporation that would slit our throats in a New York moment if it would improve their quarterly statement 1/100 of a percent.
As for Sprint Reps or any other character that would generally give someone crap because they post generally critical information regarding the carrier that they got their Evo 4G from, for folks like AbsolutZeroGI, I have another thought. Those same rights that enable folks like Hrshycro, austin420 and me to post our thoughts in this General forum setup just for such non-specific topics, also gives you rights.
You didn't have to click the link to this thread, to read it, to agree with it or to comment on it. It doesn't matter if there have been 100 threads on this or similar topics posted before this one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hrshycro beginning this thread, or with anyone else contributing to it.
The sad end result of all of this is that the only reason that you even stayed on this thread after reading the OP was to post some smartass, insulting remark. That is your entire purpose for being here. So, I'd like to thank you for setting yet another example of what is killing the xda-developers forums. This is why people stop posting helpful thoughts and information. This is why many awesome devs have left xda and only work off of their own websites, or have gone away entirely. I hope that you stand proud.
Thank you for your time.
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EXACTLY!!! Excellent post!!!

nYdGeo said:
Granted, Verizon has several years headstart in implementing LTE, but unless I misunderstood what you wrote, Sprint's 4G is definitely not LTE. Sprint is using the inferior Clearwire WiMAX format, so they'll be starting from scratch when moving to LTE. If Sprint handles the move to LTE with all of the efficiency that they've handled the addition of WiMAX, Sprint will have it nation-wide in maybe 2023.
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There's nothing inferior about WiMax.
They will certainly not be "starting from scratch" when it comes to LTE.
Sprint didn't do anything "wrong" when it comes to WiMax. Clearwire was in trouble and that caused the problems that we all suffer.
The only thing "wrong" Sprint did is not being able to predict the future in regards to Clearwire's financial future.
nYdGeo said:
I had also read quite some time ago that Sprint would start marketing phones that support both WiMAX and LTE to help with that transition, but I just cannot see them doing that. I forsee that they're going to sell WiMAX phones right up until the day they move to LTE and then say, "Sorry, you'll have to purchase a new phone to use the 4G in your area...well, one day...when we get it to your area...maybe".
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That's not going to happen. WiMax isn't going away and there's no reason for it to be shut down.
nYdGeo said:
It amuses me that Sprint isn't interested in providing its customers with the highest quality, most powerful, daily user devices like the Evo 4G+ (Evo 3D - 3D + 1080p/8mp camera) or even any of the newer, high-end single-core devices. Its all marketing and they are only interested in being "First".
"Proud to introduce the FIRST 4G phone on the market (even though 90% of Evo 4G customers will be on their next phone before we'll have 4G anywhere near them)".
"The FIRST phone with a built in WiFi hotspot (no, there isn't one built into the Android OS! Its..an illusion! Only we have it! Only we have it!)".
"The FIRST 3D phone on the market (even though this is a mostly useless gimmick on a phone and just enabling the 3D-mode will eat your battery so fast you can see the inidcator moving, but we're playing on the fact that MARKETING has US consumers on a 3D kick via 3D TV's & BluRay players which unlike a 3D cellphone, are practical, useable devices)."
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You're complaining about an added feature that can be turned off easily.
How silly, seriously.
Sprint is first to things because it's all they have. At&t and Verizon have 2 times the customers they have.
That's two times the money and two times the resources.
nYdGeo said:
As others have pointed out, over the last several months Sprint has gotten rid of every reason to be with Sprint except one, and that it they're not throttling or limiting badwidth...officially...yet. Unofficially, I wonder what is the purpose for the http & rtsp data proxy servers all unmodified Sprint phones go through.
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They don't throttle phones. I'm in love with this continuing insinuation from people that want to dump on them where there is no proof.
They go through a proxy so they throttle? No, prove it.
Moreover, the definition as it's being used for 'throttling' is limiting speed after a certain amount of usage.
Sprint doesn't do that.
nYdGeo said:
Sprint's story when we got our Evo 4G's was that the $10 per-line charge was, "... to cover the cost of the premium 4G data". I was told this on the phone. "Well, we don't have 4G here and won't have it anytime soon." "Oh, we just meant the premium data plan. We're charging the $10 instead of limiting data usage like other carriers do."
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That was NEVER stated. I don't care what some rep in a store said. It was never a 4g fee. So tired of this recycled argument.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17592685#post17592685
If you're unhappy with Sprint, you are welcome to leave.
I don't know why that's so hard.

I was eligible for a premier annual upgrade on september 2011, back in February sprint said it would be on september 2012 due to changes in the program.
I *****ed on the chat for an hour because they were resetting my promised upgrade date for another year. Supervisor ended up giving me the credits for a full upgrade as of this month "Because I'm a loyal customer".
I've been with them for 11years with 5 lines and if they didn't budge on the upgrade, I would have jumped ship.
Now I'm tempted to get the SGS2 but I may wait for something better.

I agree with Hrschy. I signed up with Sprint because of their plans and what were initially benefits and now they are changing everything and not in the interest of the customer. Oh and the only housewife in here is the one that pointed it out.

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I agree with Hrschy. I signed up with Sprint because of their plans and what were initially benefits and now they are changing everything and not in the interest of the customer. Oh and the only housewife in here is the one that pointed it out.
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I agree
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Free signal Boosters from T-mobile for customers

Hi,
I went to the T-mobile store yesterday to pay my bill. So while talking to the rep, I told him how I get such a horrible signal in my house and if and when my wireless internet goes on the fritz or I switch ISP's I have a certain amount of time without the use of wifi calling. So the rep. told me to call T-mobile Customer service and get a signal booster, I asked him how much it was. He said free. I was partially right, you have to qualify, meaning you have to spend so much money there a month <I'm not sure of the amount>, and you Must have a 3G or 4G device, or devices. So I called and I qualified, so they free of charge are sending me a free home signal booster. There's no monthly fee either. So for those of you that get a crap signal in their house and sometimes the internet goes on the blink or you just are sick of having to keep your phone on wifi with wifi calling at all times at home, that's a huge battery drainer. I really didn't see any video's for this on YouTube so I'll be sure to make one once mine comes to show you how good or not good it works.
I hope some of you found this heplful, If so hit the thanks button please
good luck all,
Knotrkr

Must have good credit, be spending 70 bucks or more on your bill(all lines combined), be in 3g/4g coverage with 3g/4g phones(does not boost 2g), be in detached dwelling(no apartments), have somewhere in your house you can get atleast 1-2 bars of 3g, and be willing to sign up for 2 year service agreement.
For those that meet the criteria, it's a great option

I was one of the lucky ones who got in on the deal when it was still in beta. The only criteria we had to meet was not live in an apt, and have a landline for 911 purposes. Thing works great. You should see a nice improvement.
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TJBunch1228 said:
I was one of the lucky ones who got in on the deal when it was still in beta. The only criteria we had to meet was not live in an apt, and have a landline for 911 purposes. Thing works great. You should see a nice improvement.
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I'm really glad to hear that. I'm sick of having to keep wifi calling on 24/7. Its a 2 year free service agreement meaning even if your regular contract runs out you gotta hang onto it till the 2 years is up. I just reupped my contract 3 months ago anyhow to get the sensation. I hope it helps though.

Wait what does this do exactly? Boost the 3G in your house? What do you connect it to? :s
Also, anyone in UK using this?

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Wait what does this do exactly? Boost the 3G in your house? What do you connect it to? :s
Also, anyone in UK using this?
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I'm really not sure yet. I was at the T-mobile store last week paying my bill and checking out some phones and whatnot. I got to talking to a sales rep. and I was *****ing about the horrible signal I get as soon as I walk in my house, and I always have to keep wifi calling on and how it kills my battery. He told me to just call customer service and get a signal booster. I didn't even know if it was true or not because sometimes those guys talk bulls^^t. So I called and it's a real thing, you have to be using a 3 or 4G phone, pay over 70 a month on your bill, and you can't live in a rented apartment or rented house (I DON"T KNOW WHY). But it is free, you gotta send it back when your done but it doesn't have a monthly cost or any cost. As far as putting it together I never saw one. But I was told you put 1 piece at the spot in your house where you get the most bars. Then I think there's a couple other pieces. I do know that none go outside. I found one video of one on youtube but it cuts off after like 18 seconds but I'll be sure to make a video and I'll post the link to it on this thread. It's supposed to arrive at my house no later than October 17th. As far as the UK, I don't know. I live in the U.S. and use TMOUS and don't really know anything about the other oversea T mobiles.

TJBunch1228 said:
I was one of the lucky ones who got in on the deal when it was still in beta. The only criteria we had to meet was not live in an apt, and have a landline for 911 purposes. Thing works great. You should see a nice improvement.
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Quick question, Did you already get OK service in your house? Or was it just out and out HORRIBLE like mine, EG,, nonstop loosing signal, dropping calls, and all that? and how much did it help? Like from how many bars to how many bars and did it help your 3/4G signal as well? If so how much,
Thanks a lot,
Kn0t
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Your are correct, but as far as the 2 year contract agreement goes, it doesn't lengthen your current phone contract at all. It's a separate contract just for the booster. They told me even if my contract goes up and I leave T mobile just keep the Booster in a box somewhere and send it back at the end of the 2 year contract. It doesn't cost you any money any way you slice it, and if T mobile is still there in 2 years (God I hope so) I'm sure I will be too.

I spoke with tmo customer service several times last week about the poor signal in my home. After reading about the boosters on tmonews.com I called and asked about getting one. After arguing with several reps that they do exist I found someone who knew about them but told me there was no way I could get one. He said It was just a test project that you had to be invited into. If anyone has a name or direct line of someone I could talk to that would be helpful. I had always had great experiences with tmo's customer service but this last experience was terrible.
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tohg2 said:
I spoke with tmo customer service several times last week about the poor signal in my home. After reading about the boosters on tmonews.com I called and asked about getting one. After arguing with several reps that they do exist I found someone who knew about them but told me there was no way I could get one. He said It was just a test project that you had to be invited into. If anyone has a name or direct line of someone I could talk to that would be helpful. I had always had great experiences with tmo's customer service but this last experience was terrible.
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Well, IDK who you talked too. I called and told them that the customer service guy at the store told me I could get a free signal booster. They said yes If I meet the criteria witch I listed in an earlier post. It came in the mail yesterday. I was never able to get more than 1 bar in here that would drop all the time and no data. now I have nonstop 3 too 5 bars and nonstop 4G. Whoever you talked to was just lazy or misinformed. I called a week ago and got it yetsterday. I took a few pics.
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IF you have your own house or live in your parents house.. as long as it's a single family house. you have a 3 or 4G phone and your bill must be more than 70 a month. If you meet that criteria, call back and ****ing demand that they give you one of these. whoever you talked to is full of ****. I called I asked. They put me on hold to make sure I met the criteria and they confirmed my shipping address and that was that.. the whole thing took 15 minutes.
best of luck to ya buddy.
kn0t

oh to answer a question from an earlier post. The Kit consits of 2 main peices. 2 plugs. And some instruction booklets. It's very easy to hook up. You take the one piece, and you put it near a window were you get at least 1 bar on your phone, and you plug it in. You take the second piece and place it in the center of your house, nowhere near the first piece. And that's it. Nothing screws into anything. Nothing goes outside. it's 2 boxes and need plugged in and it works well.

Was there a part number or something on the box you could send me?
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Yup. It's called a Tmobile - cell - fi
Model # : CELFl - RSU104

I was finally able to get setup to have a booster sent to me. They must have my account marked as me being a jerk. I spent an hour being transferred around and no one could help me. I put my wife on who also has T-Mobile and within minutes we had one ordered. The first guy told me I need two lines on my account to qualify. Then he hung up on me. The next lady said my credit wasent good enough, which is BS, seeing as I just bought a house. Finally I let my wife try and she was approved right away. One thing I know is T-Mobile customer service has definitely taken a turn for the worst. Thanks for the help
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tohg2 said:
I spoke with tmo customer service several times last week about the poor signal in my home. After reading about the boosters on tmonews.com I called and asked about getting one. After arguing with several reps that they do exist I found someone who knew about them but told me there was no way I could get one. He said It was just a test project that you had to be invited into. If anyone has a name or direct line of someone I could talk to that would be helpful. I had always had great experiences with tmo's customer service but this last experience was terrible.
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Just call Customer service and say you were at the store telling them about your horrible signal in your house and you were about to cancel your account (that should light a fire under their ass), then proceed to tell them that the Rep. at the T mobile store assured you that you could call customer service and get a FREE signal booster. It did start as some beta trial but not anymore. I got mine so fast I can't understand why your having any problems as long as you meed the criteria. 1. must own a 3/4G Phone. Must Spend over $70.00 a month on your bill, You must live in a house, with no other families, no apartments, duplexes or anything and you must have a land-line for 911 purposes (don't ask me why) . If you meet those you should have zero problem getting one. All I paid was like $7.88 shipping and handling that they just add to your next bill, oh you must have good credit as well. Those people you talked to are full of **** plain and simple. or they just didn't feel like doing their job. The Box just says, T-Mobile CEL - FI®. There's a sticker that says NXT CELFI RS1-4 INDOOR COVER
PCS PHONE KIT SMART card serial number.
that's about it.
All I can say about the unit is, in my house I'd get 1 bar that would come and go, go more than come, I had to wave my phone around in the air to send a text, and calls, If they would go through at all would drop almost immediately. AND I would get 2G or E at the very best. Once in a while 3/4G would flash on and off real fast. Now I have 4G Nonstop, and between 2 and 5 bars at all times, and I never drop a call. I do have wifi and wifi calling that I used but it just drained my battery so bad, this unit really really works well and if you don't get signal in your house I'd call them and not take no for an answer. Honest to God it took me 15 minutes for the entire phone call and 5 days later it was at my door.
THIS IS THE BOX IT CAME IN
THIS IS THE UNIT THAT YOU MOUNT IN YOUR WINDOW
THIS IS THE UNIT THAT YOU PUT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR HOUSE

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You must live in a house, with no other families, no apartments, duplexes or anything and you must have a land-line for 911 purposes (don't ask me why) .
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Hopefully I can clear this up for the confused. Enhanced 911 services on your cell phone allow the emergency dispatcher to immediately triangulate your location based on where your cell phone is. This way even if you are unable to tell the dispatcher your address they can send units out to you. This Cell-Fi amplifies an existing signal which a near-by neighbor could also pick up and utilize. This confuses the E911 because it cannot accurately track your location. For this reason, for legal and safety purposes, T-Mobile must require that you have a landline, which will automatically give your address to the emergency dispatcher. They also require that you live in a single family residence as to not put your neighbors at risk by FUBARing their ability to track them in case of emergency should they happen to be calling from a T-Mobile cell phone as well.

I assume they just felt like being assholes to me. I do have a habit of yelling at incompetent customer service reps. Truth is I was looking to cancel my service and I still might. I'm really waiting for the new nexus to be released so I can see what carriers it will be available on. My wife has wifi calling on her bb but it isn't an option on my nexus s. At any rate, our cel-fi shipped today so I guess I won in the end. Thanks again for the info
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SWEET I may switch to TMO now....This isnt a femtocel like sprints airrave right?

churro7 said:
SWEET I may switch to TMO now....This isnt a femtocel like sprints airrave right?
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Sorry man but I have no clue what sprints airrave is man.

Well I got my booster today. There is one spot in my house where I get between 1 and 2 bars of hsdpa. Running a speed test in that window I can get .80mbps down. 2 steps from that window I have nothing. I placed the window unit in that spot and put the base unit in the middle of my house (1800 sq. Ft.) The two units are about 25 ft apart. I am showing a 6 on my base unit. They say 1-9 the higher the number the better. I can now make calls anywhere throughout the house and have clear quality. I am getting around .40mbps down in the room with the base unit. Overall I am very happy with the booster. I have wifi so the speed doesn't bother me and thankfully I can finally make calls from my couch. Any questions let me know
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Chronicling My Experience Changing from VZW to Republic Wireless (Moto X to Moto X)

Hey folks,
So I did it. I finally got tired of paying $170 for 4GB of data on two phones and up and cancelled my VZW account yesterday.
I then promptly ordered 2 Moto X's on Republic Wireless and picked their 'best' plan. They have a 30 day money back guarantee, so I figured, what can it hurt.
If you're familiar with Republic, you already know this, but their claim to fame is that they sell a Moto X for $299 in white or black, and then you can pick from 4 plans that are between $5 and $40 a month (per phone).
$5 - Wifi Calling and texting only
$15 - Wifi Calling, texting, and then text and calling over cellular
$25 - The above plus Sprint 3g coverage
$40 - The above plus Spring 4g coverage
You are allowed to change your plan 2x per month. And they supposedly roam on VZW for up to 500 MB a month or somesuch. Which is fine, I only need the actual ability to use the phone when I'm out, or God forbid the wife breaks down somewhere with the baby...she needs to be able to make a call
I know of Sprint and they STINK...I know it and you know it. Ha. At least in my area. But nothing is good at my house...even my VZW with network extender barely gets the job done...but my wifi is GREAT! So, I'm hoping this will work. You can learn more by going to their site.
So, I hope to sell my VZW Moto X and my wife's SGS3 for ~$600, which will cover the cost of the new phones.
Even if I stick with their $40 plan, that's still $80 a month vs. $170. ~$1000 vs ~$2000 on VZW
My experience so far.
Their website is good. There is ample information and they have forums and help sections up the wazoo!
They have 2 phone options. A 'Defy XT' running GB or a Moto X on 4.2.2...no brainer here. Moto X's, please! They only offer white and black...no Motomaker. No biggie..white one for the missus, black one for me. Only downside is I've gotten used to tap to pay and other nice 4.4 features on my Vzw Moto X. Will be hard to go back to slow updates and 4.2.2. again...although at least they have the camera update...and they say 4.4 in February...and Moto and Google have been pushing everything to Play, so it's just a little bit of a waiting game.
After ordering, I see my order will ship in 5-7 days. Sheesh! In a world of Amazon, Newegg, whatever, I'm used to getting orders in a few days. Heck, in a lot of places Verizon will get it to you the same day, everywhere else they overnight it the next day.
So, I look for a phone number. There is none. Look online and find a corporate # which gets you to a menu where you need to know extensions.
So I email them, ask if they can tell me how long to expect. After about 3 hours I get a form email explaining pretty much what was online. 5-7 days to ship, then a few days to get here. Sheesh. I write back and ask for a more personal answer...I get nothing.
Now, about 20 hours later, my order is still pending. No movement whatsoever. But, I guess that's just delivering what was promised with the 5-7 days.
Recap:
Order pros: Easy to order, good phone, nice choices, good website.
Order cons: No ability to reach a real person, molasses slow shipping times, outdated OS.
I'm going to keep updating this thread throughout my month with them, before I decide to keep or return the phones. Figured it'd be fun for me and maybe helpful for anyone else in my situation.

I am interested in hearing of your experience. I considered both RW and Ting before ordering my Moto X. I was on T-Mobile prepaid and had spotty reception at home with my Nexus 4.
While the T-Mobile plan has limited minutes, I used GrooveIP with a Google voice number when on WIFI, so it was not really a limiting factor. I know this is going away next May, but am confident there will be a replacement before then.
My major concern was Sprint's miserable 3G data speeds, and that 3G is all they offer within 60 miles of me. That would mean I would be without decent data when I need it most, when I am out and about. I get exemplary data speeds on T-Mobile as soon as I head down the hill so I decided to stick with them. And thankfully, the Moto X radios have corrected the spotty reception as well.

Solutions Etcetera said:
I am interested in hearing of your experience. I considered both RW and Ting before ordering my Moto X. I was on T-Mobile prepaid and had spotty reception at home with my Nexus 4.
While the T-Mobile plan has limited minutes, I used GrooveIP with a Google voice number when on WIFI, so it was not really a limiting factor. I know this is going away next May, but am confident there will be a replacement before then.
My major concern was Sprint's miserable 3G data speeds, and that 3G is all they offer within 60 miles of me. That would mean I would be without decent data when I need it most, when I am out and about. I get exemplary data speeds on T-Mobile as soon as I head down the hill so I decided to stick with them. And thankfully, the Moto X radios have corrected the spotty reception as well.
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Yeah, they sound solid, but the Sprint thing is probably the worst of it...well, from what I've read. So far communication has been the worst of it, but maybe they're slammed for the season...who knows. So far 3 emails, all with form replies. And keep in mind, there is no contact #.
But, once I have the phone in hand I'm pretty much hoping to not have to contact them anymore.

Verizon roaming?
How well does the Verizon roaming work? That could be a key factor for me as some of my family live outside of the range of most providers (not sure on sprint in particular, but ATT is definitely out)

Fellow RW Moto X user here. I got my MX 6 days after ordering it, and they were projecting the 5-7 days thing so its accurate at least. My order status stayed "pending" till it shipped which was about 5 days (the shipping is fast at least) after the order was placed.
Just a couple tips... not sure if you can go back but there are codes floating around the net that give you the first month free. I took advantage of that and got the 4G/LTE plan to test it out. So far sprints network is slow as molasses unless I'm in a 4G/LTE area in which cases its pretty fast (15-18 mbs/up 2-3 mbs/down).
I have to say RW did an amazing job of integrating wifi calling, the handoff from wifi to cell is almost unnoticeable. I get very spotty 3G over at my GF place and it pretty much killed my MX battery in 6-7 hours (didn't realize I had the wifi off), the phone actually got a little warm too. using wifi though, I get my average 1.5-2 day battery performance.
Make sure you check your area and see if you even have sprint 4G/LTE service. no point paying the $40 a month if your not going to be able to take advantage of the additional speeds. The $25 a month plan gets you the same amount of data just at 3G (aka .5 mbs or less on sprint) speeds, which may be all they have in your area.
RW has virtually no phone tech support, its all web based. So on the bright side they have a great web community, on the down side compared to phone based system they can be a bit sluggish (2-3 days) getting you tech support.

They sent me tracking info to be delivered on Thursday. Woot! Maybe it was because they are just underpromising/overdelivering or maybe it's because I bugged them...either way. Kudos to Republic so far. Will report back when they arrive and I fire them up!

I tried the X on Republic and it didn't work for me. I travel a lot, often to rural places in the West (Montana, Idaho, Nevada desert). That right there is a no-go as Sprint is really bad. They state that they have the right to cancel your service if you use roaming too much (after one warning). Don't need to worry every time I place a call or load a website.
I do have a work iPad w/Verizon LTE data, so technically I could tether via wifi calling and have Verizon coverage, but that's a hassle to carry around the iPad constantly.
Also, I didn't realize how much I use voice/data at the same time (GSM).
It's a pretty neat proposition if you are on wifi a lot or live in an area where Sprint is just incredible. Not so for the Western US (excluding huge cities like LA, etc).
Also, my number is ported to Google Voice. RW uses a back-end Sprint number that you don't see and forwards the call to your RW number. If you layer in GV as well, you are double-forwarding each call. Not a big deal on the surface, but the potential for voice lag is doubly as worse with a GV number. Just a thought.
Alas, back to GSM and AT&T. It's worth the premium to me.
Personal opinion as everything on the internet is.

I give props to RW for what they are trying to do but its still basically a beta service and not good for me personally. My battery life was better on a moto x I had on AIO for about 3 months. And RW doesn't support smilies in text messages, maybe a small issue to some but for my wife and I its a staple for us on her grave yard shift nights. I am glad I test drove it and hope to see good things come from their efforts, maybe even a Google buyout some day? I say give them a try for 3 weeks or so like I did, it just might work for you.

I'll be interested in OP's experience. I'll be curious what it will be like coming from a Premium Carrier to a Hybrid Budget Carrier. I've been using RW for about 3 weeks. I came from a Nexus 4. I really like the phone -- Moto X - and I've been satisfied with my experience on RW but I live in a big city; I'm always on wifi at home and work; and I am not a heavy cell phone user.
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I was on T-Mobile prepaid and had spotty reception at home with my Nexus 4..............
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@Solutions Etcetera Did you go from Nexus 4 to Moto X on T-mobile Prepaid. If so, which version of the Moto X are you using -- DevEd or Tmo??
I too had the Nexus 4 T-Mobile Prepaid and my reception at home was spotty. I'd be interested to know if simply changing your phone to a Moto X improved your T-Mobile reception.
T-Mobile is very strong where I live but my condo is heavy concrete, steel, and glass, and the T-Mobile signal just didn't penetrate very well but on my deck the Tmo reception was superb -- inside terrible. AT&T was fine inside as well, and my Republic Wireless Moto X Sprint reception gets great indoor reception as well.
I never had much success with Groove IP and Google Voice on my Nexus 4. Skype was much better. I live RW and the Moto X but I'm not a heavy cell phone user and I live in a big city and have nearly 24/7 access to wifi. Sometimes I wonder if I should have just stuck with my Nexus 4 on a pay-as-you-go per minute and just used Skype $3 calling subscription.

JGolf,
I bought the T Mobile version because I wanted the black woven back, and yes... I simply transferred my prepaid number to the new sim.
I get reception now everywhere. Home, in town, even indoors in local businesses. That was something both the Nexus 4 and 5 were incapable of. Even when I had signal on those, when I'd pick them up to use them the bars were gone.
I was jealous seeing others talking on their phones where I couldn't, thinking they must all be on Verizon. Who'd have thunk the Nexuses just have crappy radios.

I just switched from Sprint to Republic Wireless, so it's less of a change for me (Sprint is good where I am.) A few things worth mentioning:
Wifi calls are generally good, but I have had issues when lots of people are streaming/downloading/surfing/gaming at once.
Wifi to cell hand-offs have been great, and I can only notice it if I'm expecting it.
My phone came within 3 or 4 days; but my parents' phones, which I ordered the same day to a different address, took about 2 full weeks. Maybe the white ones are on back order or something (mine was black).
I could not port my Sprint phone number to Republic Wireless or Google Voice, so I unfortunately had to use a new number. Google Voice and RW use the same rate center (broadcom.com) so if you can't port to one, you can't port to the other. Motorola Connect has not proved to be as reliable as Google Voice's Chrome extension.
RW has chat support, but they cannot answer very technical questions in my (one) experience. It's just there to provide basic information.
You can submit a help ticket to change your caller ID twice (mine was my city by default.) They got back to me very promptly (but the change has not yet processed.)
You can (at your own risk, of course) root the RW Moto X and install the Xposed framework to customize it without messing up their custom ROM/software; however, they reserve the right to terminate your service. I doubt they would do that if you're not abusing the plan (actually read the TOS so you know what expectations are.) Obviously don't replace their ROM with a different one, as that would defeat the purpose of what they offer (and I don't think you would be able to activate it.) You can dual boot other ROMs for experimentation with Safestrap.
For $25/month, waiting until February May for Android 4.4 is worth it, but I really, really hope they deliver on that expectation and continue updating regularly like they claim they will.
If you decide to sign up, note that there is a referral program. If you use someone's link you and that person each get $19 off, or you can use the promo code "MONEYMUSTACHE19" and get the same $19. Here's my referral link (if this is not allowed, someone can let me know or a mod can remove it.)
I'm happy to answer any questions if people have any!

For me sprint is terrible here, too. But on my actual house, nobody gets cell reception. It's just bad. I'd like to go straight talk, but then we'd get zero coverage at home and the wife would kill me. At least with this I have 50mb down on the router and great n900 coverage.
I'm using a Moto x right now on Verizon, with 4.4 rooted with gravity box doing its thing. It's the best phone imo, I'm stoked
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Solutions Etcetera said:
JGolf,
I bought the T Mobile version because I wanted the black woven back, and yes... I simply transferred my prepaid number to the new sim.
I get reception now everywhere. Home, in town, even indoors in local businesses. That was something both the Nexus 4 and 5 were incapable of. Even when I had signal on those, when I'd pick them up to use them the bars were gone.
I was jealous seeing others talking on their phones where I couldn't, thinking they must all be on Verizon. Who'd have thunk the Nexuses just have crappy radios.
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Thanks a lot for that info. It is very interesting and helpful to me. I had the Nexus 4 (and briefly Nexus 5) and my experience was the same as yours.
I was wondering whether or not the radios were not-so-great in the Nexus's because my Republic Wireless Moto X gets great Sprint indoor coverage (even better than AT&T where I've tested) and Sprint operates on higher frequencies like T-Mobile. I know you can't mix and match apples and oranges and I am sure Tmo's and Sprint's are different frequencies, but I get solid 4 bars on Sprint's network on my RW Moto X inside my home, and with both my Nexus's I'd fluctuate between 1-4 bars on AT&T, and lucky to have 1 bar on Tmo.
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SubliminalME said:
For me sprint is terrible here, too. But on my actual house, nobody gets cell reception. It's just bad. I'd like to go straight talk, but then we'd get zero coverage at home and the wife would kill me. At least with this I have 50mb down on the router and great n900 coverage.
I'm using a Moto x right now on Verizon, with 4.4 rooted with gravity box doing its thing. It's the best phone imo, I'm stoked
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I'm confused. I thought you were the OP and switching over to Republic Wireless?
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mmm2010 said:
I just switched from Sprint to Republic Wireless, so it's less of a change for me (Sprint is good where I am.) A few things worth mentioning:
I'm happy to answer any questions if people have any!
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Do you have any garbled calls. I do, just a bit, when I'm on a wifi call, but so far the cell calls have been pretty good. You?

jgolf said:
Do you have any garbled calls. I do, just a bit, when I'm on a wifi call, but so far the cell calls have been pretty good. You?
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Usually I don't have a problem with it, but I have experienced garbled calls when my roommates and I are using the internet heavily (Netflix, Xbox Live, Steam, Torrents, etc.) That could likely be fixed using QOS (quality of service) settings on my router to prioritize VoIP traffic, but I haven't tried that (and I'm about to move out anyway).

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I'm confused. I thought you were the OP and switching over to Republic Wireless?
Yep! Cancelled my Verizon contract, effective the end of the month and Republic shipped my phones today.
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I canceled before I was officially billed, so I have a question.
I had the $25 plan. What are the average taxes? I know this varies greatly depending on where you live, etc, but does $25 turn into like $37 or something after taxes? Or is it closer to $29 or so.
I know the 911 fees and such add quite a bit to the advertised rate.

ericshmerick said:
I canceled before I was officially billed, so I have a question.
I had the $25 plan. What are the average taxes? I know this varies greatly depending on where you live, etc, but does $25 turn into like $37 or something after taxes? Or is it closer to $29 or so.
I know the 911 fees and such add quite a bit to the advertised rate.
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Good question. Taxes appear to be $1.43 for the $25 plan (obviously that may vary by state), but the $25 plan is really $24.19. Also, the $19 referral discount is really an $18.39 discount, so I paid $7.23 for my first month. All in all, there look to be no surprises.
Here's a screenshot of my first month's breakdown:
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I love my republic wireless service and moto x. Happy on the $10/month cell call and TXT plan. Not having data out of WiFi actually helps me get back into the real world!
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And btw it uses 3g data for txt and MMS. Just can't use internet or download stuff.....except for what I just mentioned.
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Republic Experience
I've had Republic almost a year. I even signed up for the Defy XT which shows how desperate I was to save money on my phone bill. The Moto X with Republic is for those who are basic smart phone users and want to save money on their phone service. People who root their phones or need the most powerful phone probably won't be satisfied with Republic.
My wife fits this bill perfectly. She is at home most of the time and couldn't tell you whether she was talking on wifi or cellular, she just likes the phone and call quality. I use the train and notice how the data speed varies at times. The phone has pretty good battery power. It has always made it to bedtime, but I could drain the battery if the screen was on continuously. I love it that I can make wifi calls--which means if I'm in a remote area that has wifi I still can call out or text. I think it's great that you can change your plan 2 times per month, but I haven't needed to do that.
I've rooted a previous phone, but probably won't do anything to this one as it does what I need it to do! I'm very happy with the Moto X and Republic. The downsides--you're kinda committed with Republic with the phone after 30 day trial, tech support and customer service is online or email. The phones came when they said they would, but it was tough to wait for it. Motorola Connect works okay, but would prefer to use Google Voice which I can't seem to get working with this service.
Here's a link for those interested: referrals.republicwireless.com/a/clk/2CtdGg
I'll be interested to hear your experiences!

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The downsides--you're kinda committed with Republic with the phone after 30 day trial
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EDIT: Republic Wireless now allows reactivations.
That's definitely worth mentioning. One thing that not everyone realizes is that you can't really sell your RW phone for what it's worth (right now) because they do not currently allow reactivation of phones. One article (the last source) also says that the ESN is locked to a specific portion of Sprint's spectrum so it can't be used for other CDMA carriers, but they do not cite their source.
Republic Wireless is, however, working to change this, so in the future people might be able to get most of their $300 back by selling the device if they decide they want out. I suspect it might be a while, though.
Sources:
https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1629
https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-1628
https://community.republicwireless.com/ideas/1084
http://liliputing.com/2013/09/cant-use-299-republic-wireless-moto-x-sprint.html