* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
they also went from this...
sprint said:
Overview
Rooting a phone (or getting root) is the process of modifying the operating system on a
device to obtain complete control over it. By rooting a device, the user can then alter certain
built-in functionality of the device. Rooting is strongly discouraged by Sprint and device
manufacturers.
If the customer is experiencing issues that are suspect to be caused by rooting the device
Step Action
1
Educate the customer on the risks involved in rooting their device:
• Rooting can cause irreparable damage to the device.
• Rooting can result in an inoperable device.
• Rooting may result in all customer data and customizations being lost.
2
Open and eTicket and exchange the device per standard Advanced Exchange
procedures.
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to this...
sprint said:
We can, without notice, suspend or terminate any Service at any time for any reason. For example, we can suspend or terminate any Service for the following: (i) modifying a Device from its manufacturer specifications (for example, rooting the device); or (l) if we believe the action protects our interests, any customer's interests, or our networks.
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if you don't like it, jump ship and go away. what do you think complaining on a hacker forum is going to do?
Hrshycro said:
* Doubled their ETF to $350, and the activation fee to $36; removed activation fee promos.
* Cut the trail period in half to 14 days (from 30).
* Canned annual phone upgrades.
* Killed off the Sprint Premiere Rewards program.
Next up is no more discounts on family plans (already cut from all lines to the first two), and data throttling.
And they're basically scrapping Wi-Max to start building out their LTE network...2 years behind everyone else.
They just went from okay-for-the-price, to worse than AT&T/Verizon within a week. I've had it with 25k-150k 3G speeds and shi*ty ass 4G that's the same fing speed as AT&T's 3G, and that's if I'm within eye sight of the tower.
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I must agree with you. I'm just waiting for the iPhone or nexus prime to come out.
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AbsolutZeroGI said:
if you don't like it, jump ship and go away. what do you think complaining on a hacker forum is going to do?
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Agreed, we already have multiple threads on these topics as well.
[email protected] forum. i know a lot of yous guys think "u r leet haxor", but it aint real.
austin420 said:
[email protected] forum. i know a lot of yous guys think "u r leet haxor", but it aint real.
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I'm not elite at anything, but this is a hacker forum not desperate housewives of sprint. hacker (hobbyist) = who makes innovative customizations or combinations of retail electronic and computer equipment.
I also know the origins of elite, which most kids don't
The guy was venting. If someone venting on a public forum really disrupt your life than wow to you all. Op i personally feel you but I'm with Sprint for the long haul.
*Edit*
Things to look forward too.
It looks like Sprint might be upgrading the existing EVDO Rev A network to Rev B.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...rk to Rev B.&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13161314229133
There is also a new video on network vision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_jpIdr_uw
cdszoke said:
The guy was venting. If someone venting on a public forum really disrupt your life than wow to you all.
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OP posted the same thread in the 3D general AND on Engadget's Facebook post about this topic.
Its fine, he's upset.
So am I.
But there are already threads on this topic and in complete truth its not going to do any good to complain here.
Contact [email protected].
Post on their Facebook.
Post on the Sprint forums.
Or just move to a different carrier.
Those are much more productive ways of handling this.
mattykinsx said:
OP posted the same thread in the 3D general AND on Engadget's Facebook post about this topic.
Its fine, he's upset.
So am I.
But there are already threads on this topic and in complete truth its not going to do any good to complain here.
Contact [email protected].
Post on their Facebook.
Post on the Sprint forums.
Or just move to a different carrier.
Those are much more productive ways of handling this.
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Yeah, I've done that; talked to Tamera in Dan's office, who opened an advance support ticket for me, where I was told the tower by my house (50k 3G for over a year now) would be upgraded by Sept 17th. On the first Friday of Aug., at 8:30PM, from a guy called and said that they weren't going to be able to get it fixed until Dec 31st...and I'm sure Dec 31st will turn into May 27st, and that'll turn into October 2015. :|
Sprint is really, really good at lying and getting absolutely nothing done. They need to take a few pages out of Apple's book.
And as far as this whole Network Vision goes, it sounds great, and I'm excited about it, but 3 years to complete it? The world went from 3G to 4G within 3 year's time! Wayyy too long to roll it out. Verizon will have LTE in 90% of America within 3 years. :|
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Sprint is really, really good at lying and getting absolutely nothing done. They need to take a few pages out of Apple's book.
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Everyone I know with an iPhone loves it and AT&T's service. And I'd like to see HTC exchange my EVO 2 times within the first month, like Apple did for my new MacBook Air.
[QUOTE="Hrshycro, post: 17589122, m...ike Apple did for my new MacBook Air.[/QUOTE]
I was with at&t for six years. Service was horrible the last year and a half. Plus, who wants to pay extra for data usage? Idk about you guys but I am averaging 5-6gb a month. And HTC wont replace your evo twice in a month...mainly because they make quality products that don't break, unlike apple.
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And as far as this whole Network Vision goes, it sounds great, and I'm excited about it, but 3 years to complete it? The world went from 3G to 4G within 3 year's time! Wayyy too long to roll it out. Verizon will have LTE in 90% of America within 3 years. :|
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That's how long it is going to take.
Verizon started on their LTE network in 2008.
Also, Verizon may have LTE like that in 3 years but that's exactly what Sprint Vision is. All towers will have "4g"
Granted, Verizon has several years headstart in implementing LTE, but unless I misunderstood what you wrote, Sprint's 4G is definitely not LTE. Sprint is using the inferior Clearwire WiMAX format, so they'll be starting from scratch when moving to LTE. If Sprint handles the move to LTE with all of the efficiency that they've handled the addition of WiMAX, Sprint will have it nation-wide in maybe 2023.
I had also read quite some time ago that Sprint would start marketing phones that support both WiMAX and LTE to help with that transition, but I just cannot see them doing that. I forsee that they're going to sell WiMAX phones right up until the day they move to LTE and then say, "Sorry, you'll have to purchase a new phone to use the 4G in your area...well, one day...when we get it to your area...maybe".
It amuses me that Sprint isn't interested in providing its customers with the highest quality, most powerful, daily user devices like the Evo 4G+ (Evo 3D - 3D + 1080p/8mp camera) or even any of the newer, high-end single-core devices. Its all marketing and they are only interested in being "First".
"Proud to introduce the FIRST 4G phone on the market (even though 90% of Evo 4G customers will be on their next phone before we'll have 4G anywhere near them)".
"The FIRST phone with a built in WiFi hotspot (no, there isn't one built into the Android OS! Its..an illusion! Only we have it! Only we have it!)".
"The FIRST 3D phone on the market (even though this is a mostly useless gimmick on a phone and just enabling the 3D-mode will eat your battery so fast you can see the inidcator moving, but we're playing on the fact that MARKETING has US consumers on a 3D kick via 3D TV's & BluRay players which unlike a 3D cellphone, are practical, useable devices)."
As others have pointed out, over the last several months Sprint has gotten rid of every reason to be with Sprint except one, and that it they're not throttling or limiting badwidth...officially...yet. Unofficially, I wonder what is the purpose for the http & rtsp data proxy servers all unmodified Sprint phones go through.
Sprint's story when we got our Evo 4G's was that the $10 per-line charge was, "... to cover the cost of the premium 4G data". I was told this on the phone. "Well, we don't have 4G here and won't have it anytime soon." "Oh, we just meant the premium data plan. We're charging the $10 instead of limiting data usage like other carriers do."
For those not old enough to recall how Sprint made their name in the cellphone industry, it was by a huge ad campaign making fun of all the other companys having daytime and nighttime minutes. Then one day, after Sprint was an established player in the market, all of those advertisements went away. A year or two later, all new Sprint cellphone plans had daytime and nighttime minutes. I wonder when they'll start limiting or throttling bandwidth...its only a matter of time.
This doesn't single out Sprint. They're just like any other piece of crap corporation that would slit our throats in a New York moment if it would improve their quarterly statement 1/100 of a percent.
As for Sprint Reps or any other character that would generally give someone crap because they post generally critical information regarding the carrier that they got their Evo 4G from, for folks like AbsolutZeroGI, I have another thought. Those same rights that enable folks like Hrshycro, austin420 and me to post our thoughts in this General forum setup just for such non-specific topics, also gives you rights.
You didn't have to click the link to this thread, to read it, to agree with it or to comment on it. It doesn't matter if there have been 100 threads on this or similar topics posted before this one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hrshycro beginning this thread, or with anyone else contributing to it.
The sad end result of all of this is that the only reason that you even stayed on this thread after reading the OP was to post some smartass, insulting remark. That is your entire purpose for being here. So, I'd like to thank you for setting yet another example of what is killing the xda-developers forums. This is why people stop posting helpful thoughts and information. This is why many awesome devs have left xda and only work off of their own websites, or have gone away entirely. I hope that you stand proud.
Thank you for your time.
nYdGeo said:
Granted, Verizon has several years headstart in implementing LTE, but unless I misunderstood what you wrote, Sprint's 4G is definitely not LTE. Sprint is using the inferior Clearwire WiMAX format, so they'll be starting from scratch when moving to LTE. If Sprint handles the move to LTE with all of the efficiency that they've handled the addition of WiMAX, Sprint will have it nation-wide in maybe 2023.
I had also read quite some time ago that Sprint would start marketing phones that support both WiMAX and LTE to help with that transition, but I just cannot see them doing that. I forsee that they're going to sell WiMAX phones right up until the day they move to LTE and then say, "Sorry, you'll have to purchase a new phone to use the 4G in your area...well, one day...when we get it to your area...maybe".
It amuses me that Sprint isn't interested in providing its customers with the highest quality, most powerful, daily user devices like the Evo 4G+ (Evo 3D - 3D + 1080p/8mp camera) or even any of the newer, high-end single-core devices. Its all marketing and they are only interested in being "First".
"Proud to introduce the FIRST 4G phone on the market (even though 90% of Evo 4G customers will be on their next phone before we'll have 4G anywhere near them)".
"The FIRST phone with a built in WiFi hotspot (no, there isn't one built into the Android OS! Its..an illusion! Only we have it! Only we have it!)".
"The FIRST 3D phone on the market (even though this is a mostly useless gimmick on a phone and just enabling the 3D-mode will eat your battery so fast you can see the inidcator moving, but we're playing on the fact that MARKETING has US consumers on a 3D kick via 3D TV's & BluRay players which unlike a 3D cellphone, are practical, useable devices)."
As others have pointed out, over the last several months Sprint has gotten rid of every reason to be with Sprint except one, and that it they're not throttling or limiting badwidth...officially...yet. Unofficially, I wonder what is the purpose for the http & rtsp data proxy servers all unmodified Sprint phones go through.
Sprint's story when we got our Evo 4G's was that the $10 per-line charge was, "... to cover the cost of the premium 4G data". I was told this on the phone. "Well, we don't have 4G here and won't have it anytime soon." "Oh, we just meant the premium data plan. We're charging the $10 instead of limiting data usage like other carriers do."
For those not old enough to recall how Sprint made their name in the cellphone industry, it was by a huge ad campaign making fun of all the other companys having daytime and nighttime minutes. Then one day, after Sprint was an established player in the market, all of those advertisements went away. A year or two later, all new Sprint cellphone plans had daytime and nighttime minutes. I wonder when they'll start limiting or throttling bandwidth...its only a matter of time.
This doesn't single out Sprint. They're just like any other piece of crap corporation that would slit our throats in a New York moment if it would improve their quarterly statement 1/100 of a percent.
As for Sprint Reps or any other character that would generally give someone crap because they post generally critical information regarding the carrier that they got their Evo 4G from, for folks like AbsolutZeroGI, I have another thought. Those same rights that enable folks like Hrshycro, austin420 and me to post our thoughts in this General forum setup just for such non-specific topics, also gives you rights.
You didn't have to click the link to this thread, to read it, to agree with it or to comment on it. It doesn't matter if there have been 100 threads on this or similar topics posted before this one. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Hrshycro beginning this thread, or with anyone else contributing to it.
The sad end result of all of this is that the only reason that you even stayed on this thread after reading the OP was to post some smartass, insulting remark. That is your entire purpose for being here. So, I'd like to thank you for setting yet another example of what is killing the xda-developers forums. This is why people stop posting helpful thoughts and information. This is why many awesome devs have left xda and only work off of their own websites, or have gone away entirely. I hope that you stand proud.
Thank you for your time.
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EXACTLY!!! Excellent post!!!
nYdGeo said:
Granted, Verizon has several years headstart in implementing LTE, but unless I misunderstood what you wrote, Sprint's 4G is definitely not LTE. Sprint is using the inferior Clearwire WiMAX format, so they'll be starting from scratch when moving to LTE. If Sprint handles the move to LTE with all of the efficiency that they've handled the addition of WiMAX, Sprint will have it nation-wide in maybe 2023.
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There's nothing inferior about WiMax.
They will certainly not be "starting from scratch" when it comes to LTE.
Sprint didn't do anything "wrong" when it comes to WiMax. Clearwire was in trouble and that caused the problems that we all suffer.
The only thing "wrong" Sprint did is not being able to predict the future in regards to Clearwire's financial future.
nYdGeo said:
I had also read quite some time ago that Sprint would start marketing phones that support both WiMAX and LTE to help with that transition, but I just cannot see them doing that. I forsee that they're going to sell WiMAX phones right up until the day they move to LTE and then say, "Sorry, you'll have to purchase a new phone to use the 4G in your area...well, one day...when we get it to your area...maybe".
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That's not going to happen. WiMax isn't going away and there's no reason for it to be shut down.
nYdGeo said:
It amuses me that Sprint isn't interested in providing its customers with the highest quality, most powerful, daily user devices like the Evo 4G+ (Evo 3D - 3D + 1080p/8mp camera) or even any of the newer, high-end single-core devices. Its all marketing and they are only interested in being "First".
"Proud to introduce the FIRST 4G phone on the market (even though 90% of Evo 4G customers will be on their next phone before we'll have 4G anywhere near them)".
"The FIRST phone with a built in WiFi hotspot (no, there isn't one built into the Android OS! Its..an illusion! Only we have it! Only we have it!)".
"The FIRST 3D phone on the market (even though this is a mostly useless gimmick on a phone and just enabling the 3D-mode will eat your battery so fast you can see the inidcator moving, but we're playing on the fact that MARKETING has US consumers on a 3D kick via 3D TV's & BluRay players which unlike a 3D cellphone, are practical, useable devices)."
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You're complaining about an added feature that can be turned off easily.
How silly, seriously.
Sprint is first to things because it's all they have. At&t and Verizon have 2 times the customers they have.
That's two times the money and two times the resources.
nYdGeo said:
As others have pointed out, over the last several months Sprint has gotten rid of every reason to be with Sprint except one, and that it they're not throttling or limiting badwidth...officially...yet. Unofficially, I wonder what is the purpose for the http & rtsp data proxy servers all unmodified Sprint phones go through.
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They don't throttle phones. I'm in love with this continuing insinuation from people that want to dump on them where there is no proof.
They go through a proxy so they throttle? No, prove it.
Moreover, the definition as it's being used for 'throttling' is limiting speed after a certain amount of usage.
Sprint doesn't do that.
nYdGeo said:
Sprint's story when we got our Evo 4G's was that the $10 per-line charge was, "... to cover the cost of the premium 4G data". I was told this on the phone. "Well, we don't have 4G here and won't have it anytime soon." "Oh, we just meant the premium data plan. We're charging the $10 instead of limiting data usage like other carriers do."
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That was NEVER stated. I don't care what some rep in a store said. It was never a 4g fee. So tired of this recycled argument.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17592685#post17592685
If you're unhappy with Sprint, you are welcome to leave.
I don't know why that's so hard.
I was eligible for a premier annual upgrade on september 2011, back in February sprint said it would be on september 2012 due to changes in the program.
I *****ed on the chat for an hour because they were resetting my promised upgrade date for another year. Supervisor ended up giving me the credits for a full upgrade as of this month "Because I'm a loyal customer".
I've been with them for 11years with 5 lines and if they didn't budge on the upgrade, I would have jumped ship.
Now I'm tempted to get the SGS2 but I may wait for something better.
I agree with Hrschy. I signed up with Sprint because of their plans and what were initially benefits and now they are changing everything and not in the interest of the customer. Oh and the only housewife in here is the one that pointed it out.
Bravo78 said:
I agree with Hrschy. I signed up with Sprint because of their plans and what were initially benefits and now they are changing everything and not in the interest of the customer. Oh and the only housewife in here is the one that pointed it out.
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I agree
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Sprint CEO Sidesteps Question About iPhone
We posed the question regarding Sprint and the iPhone a while back and reported on a Sprint announcement coming February 7th, wondering if this was going to be an announcement for the Sprint iPhone. Now it appears there is more information about this being reported than we expected and that rumor about Sprint getting the iPhone might have more life to it than first thought.
In an interview last week in Detroit, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse was asked about a Sprint iPhone as reported by AppleInsider. In the past, he has been very candid with the press and in this situation, he said he had no comment. He does not discuss conversations Sprint is having with 3rd parties. Does that mean they are in conversations with Apple to get the iPhone? That would seem logical based on several things.
Apple is facing a tidal wave of Android phones in the US and recently has been overshadowed by them in several different reports at the end of 2010. To stem that tide in 2011, Apple is going to have to do several things. The first is to increase distribution, which they have started on with the iPhone coming to Verizon and they are expected to increase their sales that way. The other thing they will need to do is make the iPhone 5 a 4G capable phone.
By having the iPhone 5 be a 4G phone, it opens up many other options for them. Most carriers in the US will have some form of a 4G network up by the end of 2011. Sprint is one of those US carriers who is moving in that direction. There is nothing to stop Apple from producing a chip which will allow the iPhone to function on multiple networks and therefore increase the potential number of companies who can sell the iPhone.
Sprint would be the next logic carrier in the US to sell the iPhone, being the 3rd largest carrier. Having a similar CDMA network to Verizon, makes it a much easier situation for Apple. The best case situation we can see is for Sprint to get the iPhone when the next version is released, which would be June at the earliest. We do expect to see more information about this surfacing in a few months as the iPhone 5 release comes closer. In the mean time, this is just a rumor and speculation.
source: http://www.techieinsider.com/news/5822
Why invite all the android news sources to that?
Plus, the only way it would be an "industry first" is if Apple withheld respective competing 4G technologies from other carriers.
don't care about the iphone. probably first wp7 4g or a 4.5" phone.
Just give us the EVO 2 with wimax 2 / lte support and call it a day please
Yeah iPhone is def not the announcement...
My guess is Android 3 + WiMax. Ultimately I expect the announcement to also not be all that. Probably a tablet.
there have been comments/rummors/speculations that all the changes on price and upgrades are in preparation for the coming iphone. That is why Verizon and Sprint have been making same moves/changes...
i dont see myself changing to an iphone.... to much I can not personally stand about apple.
I do know..
that if my prices and benefits have changed for the worse, because of the iphone!
that I will be getting less network throughput because of heavier demand...
we (the android) users have to pay for the iphone demands.
it will be a very very sad day... there will be a huge backlash from android / blackberry /webOS / win7 users.
Sprint is a terrible marketing machine. they will make this situation worse.
Feb 7 ... better be huge ...
fine they will annouce the iphone...
but they better throw out there a huge bone for other OS users. or they will see a huge migration too... TMobile.
I think I'm one the few that welcomes the iphone to sprint. Why? Well right now I'm on sprint with the EVO, and my wife is on at&t iphone because as she puts it "its so user friendly". If sprint gets the iphone, she can finally join me and save us a ton of money.
I'd welcome the iPhone to Sprint, don't see the problem with it.
It would be great to get the iPhone. It would put pressure on android phone makers to create better phones and generally up the overall quality of Android phones on the market. Its happening on AT&T now that the exclusivity has ended and we will begin to see it with everyone else who carries the iPhone.
Love competition in the marketplace.
How is iPhone introduction revolutionary, unique, never-been-done?
iitreatedii said:
Sprint CEO Sidesteps Question About iPhone
We posed the question regarding Sprint and the iPhone a while back and reported on a Sprint announcement coming February 7th, wondering if this was going to be an announcement for the Sprint iPhone. Now it appears there is more information about this being reported than we expected and that rumor about Sprint getting the iPhone might have more life to it than first thought.
In an interview last week in Detroit, Sprint CEO Dan Hesse was asked about a Sprint iPhone as reported by AppleInsider. In the past, he has been very candid with the press and in this situation, he said he had no comment. He does not discuss conversations Sprint is having with 3rd parties. Does that mean they are in conversations with Apple to get the iPhone? That would seem logical based on several things.
Apple is facing a tidal wave of Android phones in the US and recently has been overshadowed by them in several different reports at the end of 2010. To stem that tide in 2011, Apple is going to have to do several things. The first is to increase distribution, which they have started on with the iPhone coming to Verizon and they are expected to increase their sales that way. The other thing they will need to do is make the iPhone 5 a 4G capable phone.
By having the iPhone 5 be a 4G phone, it opens up many other options for them. Most carriers in the US will have some form of a 4G network up by the end of 2011. Sprint is one of those US carriers who is moving in that direction. There is nothing to stop Apple from producing a chip which will allow the iPhone to function on multiple networks and therefore increase the potential number of companies who can sell the iPhone.
Sprint would be the next logic carrier in the US to sell the iPhone, being the 3rd largest carrier. Having a similar CDMA network to Verizon, makes it a much easier situation for Apple. The best case situation we can see is for Sprint to get the iPhone when the next version is released, which would be June at the earliest. We do expect to see more information about this surfacing in a few months as the iPhone 5 release comes closer. In the mean time, this is just a rumor and speculation.
source: http://www.techieinsider.com/news/5822
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Why invite all the android news sources to that?
Plus, the only way it would be an "industry first" is if Apple withheld respective competing 4G technologies from other carriers.
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^ This
it isnt that the iphone might be coming to sprint.
it is the fact.. that sprint has to do all these changes to get the iphone.. to support the iphone..
sprint hads to jump through all these hoops and raise profit margin.. so that they can afford the extra cost to get the iphone. payback to apple... steve has to get his share.
mean while...
non-iphone / smartphone users... get taxed so that sprint can have the iphone.
tax = lost in upgrade yearly... every smartphone gets charged the $10 fee (not just 4G phones)... etc....
i am fine.. with these changes if it is .. inflatioin.. cost of doing business... cost of getting better services/speeds for my account!
if it for sprint to cover iphone cost!!!!! then it sucks!!!
Same boat here. Although my wife uses different excuses, I know ultimately it is because she does'nt want to give up the iPhone.
bwcorvus said:
I think I'm one the few that welcomes the iphone to sprint. Why? Well right now I'm on sprint with the EVO, and my wife is on at&t iphone because as she puts it "its so user friendly". If sprint gets the iphone, she can finally join me and save us a ton of money.
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I LOVE my Evo, but I don't really see how having a Sprint iPhone is a bad idea. if Sprint is losing customers the way it's reported every quarter, having even more choice regarding devices is a great thing for a carrier and its customers.
meh i don't care if they get it or not. I REALLY hope thats not the announcement though..
I don't care if it's the iPhone. My wife would be happy but I'm just hoping we can get Wimax coverage in or near my area.
So I guess I'm hoping it's a wimax tablet or something and that they are pushing out more cities for wimax coverage
It's only speculations, Dan Jesse did not give a comment on anything useless tech story
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Just give us the EVO 2 with wimax 2 / lte support and call it a day please
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Its funny how little people know about this stuff. Everyone saying its gonna be the iphone5 or even an iphone with 4g is plain clueless. Apple NEVER has a carrier do a release of a major product for them. Verizon did the iphone the other week bc all it is is an iphone4 with cdma chip instead of only gsm. Any and all hardware revisions like adding 4g and iphone5 will always be done at apples own event every year.
Now if this is an iphone4 same as verizon sprint is completely clueless as how to conduct themselves.
They may announce it but id expect more than that like wimax2 or announce lte/wimax plan bc its supposed to be something new no one else has.
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I left at&t grandfathered in with their unlimited data because I wanted android, the the evo was the bomb, so it was a good fit. Now that I can upgrade, what will I upgrade to?
I don't think everyone has to worry about their contract. Sprint just put the final nail in their coffin.
How can you make a new phone that will run slower (yes it has a faster processor), but more work to do. No gingerbread, no front camera, no 4g and to top it off a crappy manufacturer. Microsoft has to love this.
I see HTC starting their own MetroPCS service and growing from there. Or even a Google HTC partnership.
What a major letdown. Perhaps its time to fire Dan, as he has no imagination.
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dont worry.. i am sure.. this is not the only phone sprint will bring out till summer.
Yeah, for the first time in years I have no desire to fork out any money to upgrade my phone.
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For the years I've been a sprint customer this goes down as the most shameful day in sprints history, indeed what was hesse thinking? I suppose they would take any manufacture partner they can get. I imagine the retention department being floated with calls of customers cancelling their account. Who at sprint decided on the evo?? Where the **** has that person gone????.
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For the years I've been a sprint customer this goes down as the most shameful day in sprints history, indeed what was hesse thinking? I suppose they would take any manufacture partner they can get. I imagine the retention department being floated with calls of customers cancelling their account. Who at sprint decided on the evo?? Where the **** has that person gone????.
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No, the retention department is not flooded. Believe it or not, the majority of people (about 99.9%) don't base their cancelling decision on an announcement they don't like.
Yeah, I might be really let down by Sprint, but I'm not running off to the other two carriers.
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ive been with sprint for 10 years now, and theyve had nothing but terrible phones, the evo has been the most worthwhile phone ever to come out of sprint.
im still happy with the evo as long as the devs keep supporting it and bringing out new features to keep me from getting bored with it.
im sure sprint will announce a new htc phone sometime this year, i hope.
Why would you leave a carrier because of a phone they announced? Sure, it's a silly phone that I have zero interest in but it didn't ruin my day or come to my house and kick my dog. People get so worked up over nothing these days.
I bet most you aren't even eligible for an upgrade anyway.
Sph33r,
Don't rain on our negative parade.
I've been up for an upgrade for some time, waiting for HTC to perfect the EVO and stay competitive.
Trust me, Sprint very well knew the EVO was their bread and butter. Why else do they still run commercials? Heck we all paid a bogus $10 fee knowing 4g was not coming any time soon. To add insult to injury, they now charge everyone this BS fee, instead of manning up and just adjusting the price of the plan. Do they think we are all that dense?
This announcement was just a kick in the ass, showing they are truly clueless. Worst off, if you are going it alone in the Wimax arena, what confidence do you have on the company you own by leaving it out of the phone. I think we all pretty much know they will be forced down the LTE path now that Verizon dumped Wimax. If they had any balls, they would have put an LTE radio in, to show they had any brains.
There comes a time when good price for a service gets trumped by bad management, lies, and sub-par offerings. HTC has been the Savior for sprint this last year, and they too were left out on the cold. Even if HTC makes a new phone on their own, Sprint's marketing dollars have just been pissed away.
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HTC has been the Savior for sprint this last year, and they too were left out on the cold.
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Left out in the cold? There are 2 more major mobile conferences coming up. You're 100% positive that Sprint will not be introducing an HTC phone during one of those?
Yeah this Kyocera phone blows. Don't get it. Hold out for the EVO 2 that will likely come out this summer.
I hate when people don't know what they are talking about. Sprint mentioned that they have no problem switching to LTE if it's the standard for the world, before they greenlit WiMax. Numerous times they made notions that will go towards LTE, (LTE World Conference, Clearwire changing their contract with Intel, Clearwire testing LTE with Sprint evaluating it, Network Vision, which will make sure the LTE switch is easy, Beceem creating an WiMax/LTE chip, Sprint stating they have the power to use both) How the hell did Verizon dumping WiMax forced Sprint to go towards LTE, if they were never going to that technology in the first place? Btw, you see that EVO 2 that people are convinced coming out this summer? It may drop in the 4Q. It's not the HTC Sabor either, so I think people need to ignore those specs. Just a little fyi.
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Sph33r,
Don't rain on our negative parade.
I've been up for an upgrade for some time, waiting for HTC to perfect the EVO and stay competitive.
Trust me, Sprint very well knew the EVO was their bread and butter. Why else do they still run commercials? Heck we all paid a bogus $10 fee knowing 4g was not coming any time soon. To add insult to injury, they now charge everyone this BS fee, instead of manning up and just adjusting the price of the plan. Do they think we are all that dense?
This announcement was just a kick in the ass, showing they are truly clueless. Worst off, if you are going it alone in the Wimax arena, what confidence do you have on the company you own by leaving it out of the phone. I think we all pretty much know they will be forced down the LTE path now that Verizon dumped Wimax. If they had any balls, they would have put an LTE radio in, to show they had any brains.
There comes a time when good price for a service gets trumped by bad management, lies, and sub-par offerings. HTC has been the Savior for sprint this last year, and they too were left out on the cold. Even if HTC makes a new phone on their own, Sprint's marketing dollars have just been pissed away.
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Wow.. dude it was ONE phone announcement. There's 10 more months in this year and trust me, you'll have plenty of options. How did HTC get left out in the cold anyway? If they don't have a new awesome phone for Sprint, that's their fault. I think they're probably too busy cranking out something for the the soon to be over-saturated tablet market anyway.
You're over reacting but if it makes you that mad there's other carriers out there.
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Why would you leave a carrier because of a phone they announced? Sure, it's a silly phone that I have zero interest in but it didn't ruin my day or come to my house and kick my dog. People get so worked up over nothing these days.
I bet most you aren't even eligible for an upgrade anyway.
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i wouldnt leave for the phone itself, but the pure lack of vision that sprint has.
last summer sprint shocked the entire cellphone world when the EVO dropped. it as a sign that somebody at sprint was getting a clue. now come along with echo-o-o-o. from what i am gathering it is a joke of a device made for a joke of cell provider....
perhaps it is a perfect fit...
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I'm curious: if you left AT&T for Sprint to get the Evo, that would have been in like June? At the earliest? So.... how are you already up for an upgrade? Please share, I want upgrades every 8 months too!
AT&T drops the Atrix 4G in March, only to release news of the Attix 4G 2 in November. Verizon drops the Thunderbolt this month, only to drop the Thunderbolt 2 in October. It's stupid that people think the EVO 2 would be released in less than a year, but I don't blame you guys for reaching out in desperation. The other carriers give me numerous toys to play with, and not Sprint. It's not because of this worldwide claim that they are poor, it's because they think their strategy of not releasing a library of smartphones in one year works. You would be surprised on how many devices for different manufacters that Sprint has in the lab. If they continue this strategy, a buyout will eventually take place or they will become 4th.
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I'm curious: if you left AT&T for Sprint to get the Evo, that would have been in like June? At the earliest? So.... how are you already up for an upgrade? Please share, I want upgrades every 8 months too!
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Ha ha,me too
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babyschoof said:
Sph33r,
Don't rain on our negative parade.
I've been up for an upgrade for some time, waiting for HTC to perfect the EVO and stay competitive.
Trust me, Sprint very well knew the EVO was their bread and butter. Why else do they still run commercials? Heck we all paid a bogus $10 fee knowing 4g was not coming any time soon. To add insult to injury, they now charge everyone this BS fee, instead of manning up and just adjusting the price of the plan. Do they think we are all that dense?
This announcement was just a kick in the ass, showing they are truly clueless. Worst off, if you are going it alone in the Wimax arena, what confidence do you have on the company you own by leaving it out of the phone. I think we all pretty much know they will be forced down the LTE path now that Verizon dumped Wimax. If they had any balls, they would have put an LTE radio in, to show they had any brains.
There comes a time when good price for a service gets trumped by bad management, lies, and sub-par offerings. HTC has been the Savior for sprint this last year, and they too were left out on the cold. Even if HTC makes a new phone on their own, Sprint's marketing dollars have just been pissed away.
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I hate when people don't know what they are talking about. Sprint mentioned that they have no problem switching to LTE if it's the standard for the world, before they greenlit WiMax. Numerous times they made notions that will go towards LTE, (LTE World Conference, Clearwire changing their contract with Intel, Clearwire testing LTE with Sprint evaluating it, Network Vision, which will make sure the LTE switch is easy, Beceem creating an WiMax/LTE chip, Sprint stating they have the power to use both) How the hell did Verizon dumping WiMax forced Sprint to go towards LTE, if they were never going to that technology in the first place? Btw, you see that EVO 2 that people are convinced coming out this summer? It may drop in the 4Q. It's not the HTC Sabor either, so I think people need to ignore those specs. Just a little fyi.
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if what i was told about LTE and Wimax is true....
you will not want to do anything with LTE!!!
LTE is a carrier's wet dream.. and a customer's nightmare!
http://androidforums.com/sprint/272829-lte-vs-wimax-charges-control-data.html
babyschoof said:
I left at&t grandfathered in with their unlimited data because I wanted android, the the evo was the bomb, so it was a good fit. Now that I can upgrade, what will I upgrade to?
I don't think everyone has to worry about their contract. Sprint just put the final nail in their coffin.
How can you make a new phone that will run slower (yes it has a faster processor), but more work to do. No gingerbread, no front camera, no 4g and to top it off a crappy manufacturer. Microsoft has to love this.
I see HTC starting their own MetroPCS service and growing from there. Or even a Google HTC partnership.
What a major letdown. Perhaps its time to fire Dan, as he has no imagination.
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So, I literally just joined this forum to reply to this thread.
This is by far the most ignorant thread I have seen on these forums in awhile.
The Evo Shift was NOT designed to replace the Evo. It was made for those people who wanted:
Slide-Out Keyboards
Smaller Phone Size
A good smartphone for less money
Not every phone that Sprint releases is meant to be the biggest and baddest "next" thing. Most people on XDA are in the demographic that looks for that, but despite being lost in your little world, there are some people out there that actually don't want such a huge bulky phone, and they miss the days when you could actually FEEL the keys on your fingertips.
The Evo Shift was created for those people, for the demographic who is NOT you.
And before the flames start, I own a standard Evo 4G, and would never switch to the Shift, but my girlfriend hates my phone, and would love nothing more than to be able to switch away from her Incredible, to the Shift.
Perhaps there will be a war of screens kind of like the war on number of razor blades on disposable razors. We might see a 5 screen phone in a couple of years.
I've noticed everybody is very unhappy lately here in this great place most of us spend the majority of our day. So, let's talk.... what would make you happy? (REALISTICALLY)
What phone? What prices? What features on a phone? What features on a ROM? Etc.... Be as detailed as possible and keep it realistic!
Me? I would like a nice phone, doesn't have to be dual-core, that's just e-boner talk right now. 1.2Ghz+, 4.3'' screen, Gingerbread, full HD recording, hardware acceleration, a nice front camera with flash and some of the features from MIUI like visitor mode and a theme gallery. Oh yeah... and a ****ing trackball.
Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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I wish, but higher speeds mean more money, just like home internet, cable, gas consumption, pretty much anything on earth. The more it is, the more it costs.
I want the mods to stop deleting threads.
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I wish, but higher speeds mean more money, just like home internet, cable, gas consumption, pretty much anything on earth. The more it is, the more it costs.
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Quality also relates to money, and nobody can argue that Sprint is lacking. 4G so far has been a flop with Sprint. Coverage is lacking. And lately their hardware is on a downward spiral. They should be desperate... and with desperation, consumers should rule!
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Honestly?! I just want my old discount and premier policies back and no $10 tax on non-4G phones. Basically, I want to go back to how things were not too long ago. I was really happy then.
I am patient enough for a new device. The EVO is making the wait quite enjoyable.
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I concur. +1
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
Simply put;
Evo (2) successor
Dualcore
4G
SLCD
4-4.5" screen
Kickstand
And that's it.
I get the folks hating on the mandatory $10 charge ... and the status changes ...
Plans, as they are - even with the $10 fee either way, are good with me. Seem to be in the minority that actually find this a plus. Feel like people want to complain just for the sake of complaining. The status hype, I get that one. That sucks. Maybe if they could do it so that if you spent a year with a "4G" phone than after said year was done, you could qualify for that upgrade everyone wants. The others have to deal. Sprint, in that regard, would need to straighten some ish up ... but that might go a ways for some. Regardless, plans seem to not be that bad IMO and I'd be happy / and will be happy with them. I don't be d over for anyone, mind you. Thankfully I'm not getting "raped" like some seem to think they are.
Good thread!
I'd like my yearly upgrades back, and my student discount to be applied to all lines again, not just the first two...But, REALISTICALLY, all it would take to make me happy would be non-suckass 200kbps down 3G speeds and it'd be nice if I actually received calls, not just got random voicemails hours later...it makes running a business fairly hard.
The past 3 months I've never seen over 200kbps down (except when I was in grand rapids, mi, then I got 2.3mbps down). The thing that gets me is, here locally, it's 200kbps down, but almost always at least 1mbps up, sometimes 1.5. I don't get it. It really pisses me off. Also, at times, some towers have 0 ZERO download, but upload works perfectly fine.
To summarize:
- At least 600kbps down on 3G
- Actually get phone calls, not just random voicemails
Perks to keep me around:
- Yearly upgrades (again)
- Student discount on 3rd+ lines
- Better 4G service (2 bars would be nice)
- No need for an airave at my house and office
I'm perfectly happy with my EVO, but will be switching back to att ASAP.
hmm, for me it would be.
preferably dual core (I truly believe this would make the UI function much much more smoothly)
candy bar phone with similar screen size to the evo and a nicer looking screen
unlockable bootloader with a full compliment of fastboot commands (or at least an engineering leak)
no fps cap
a 3D screen would be nice if they are far along enough to be worth it
more internal memory
Headphone jack
And of course updates...
4G, a replaceable battery and a sd card are all things that it must have before I even consider switching to it. The old sprint premier perks would also be nice since I've had the same phone number with sprint for over a decade yet they say I've only been a customer for something like 6 years
edit: ohh yeah, a rich blonde to go along with it would make me happy as well
The one thing that would make the Evo perfect would be a way to get the dust out from under the screen.
What would it take to make me happy? All the complainers to leave.
Sprint is working on their 4g coverage, patience is a virtue.
Sprint announced the Evo at CTIA, how about waiting for the next CTIA before freaking out like kids who don't think they're getting a bike for xmas, patience is a virtue.
The $10/month is probably what's funding more 4g in more areas more quickly. Charging it to non-4g phones is NONE OF OUR CONCERN, WE HAVE A 4G PHONE! Soon, it'll be everywhere, patience is a virtue.
People to understand that economies change and sometimes that doesn't suit our best interests. If you've got the money to jump **** and buy every brand new device that comes out on the market, then you're too rich for me to give a damn about your opinions. Open up an "I hate Sprint" forum and get the hell outta here. Some of us are getting sick of all this. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!
Being able to go pickup my Thunderbolt today would make me happy.
DirtyShroomz said:
Me? I would like a nice phone, doesn't have to be dual-core, that's just e-boner talk right now. 1.2Ghz+, 4.3'' screen, Gingerbread, full HD recording, hardware acceleration, a nice front camera with flash and some of the features from MIUI like visitor mode and a theme gallery. Oh yeah... and a ****ing trackball.
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1. The above, plus plain vanilla android, with root access out of the box, and direct updates from Google.
2. My premier status restored. I am OK with not giving new customers the old perks, but they shouldn't be taken away from existing customers, kind of like having a grandfathered plan.
These two things would make me a very happy long-time customer. (Been with Sprint since '98, but only 7 years consecutive. Actually, I've never used another provider...I just didn't have a cell for 3 years).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948413
Id be happy if this rumored EVO 2 was true. That would pretty much take a huge dump on the Atrix, thunderbolt, bionic and every other phone that has been announced so far. That chipset gpu combo would be a techies wet dream literally. Just let it be true....we'll soon find out.
To be perfectly honest I am content with my Evo. I'm not really interested in what they are coming out with next being that I just got my Evo 2 months ago. My Hero held me over as long as it could and now the Evo will do the same. A few things I am not too happy about include the $10 extra premium for internet usage. I have never used enough data to justify paying extra. Maybe they should just charge the people who are always exceeding the data cap. I wouldn't mind paying it if I actually got respectable speeds and used it excessively. According to Sprint I am in an area with excellent coverage however never have a full signal. And like everyone else I would like the 1 year upgrades back.
And like ZeroGI, I want a forum specifically for all the one liner threads and complainers. I'm tired of 50 threads of bull**** before I can even get to the stuff I'm looking for. IMHO threads should need to be approved before they are posted.
if i could get 1 thing .. that will make me feel better about all the changes and charges.
if the data speeds would be closer to what is marketd. coverage, consistancy, and penetration.
3G higher than 1mb
4G higher than 5mb
currently it is **** slow for both .. and you are lucky if you can get 4G at all (in a 4G area).
I think if the Data speeds and coverage was better, then all the other crap is understandable and acceptable.
Phones will come out.. not a big concern like others here.
Price... inflation is a *****.. but what u going to do?
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if i could get 1 thing .. that will make me feel better about all the changes and charges.
if the data speeds would be closer to what is marketd. coverage, consistancy, and penetration.
3G higher than 1mb
4G higher than 5mb
currently it is **** slow for both .. and you are lucky if you can get 4G at all (in a 4G area).
I think if the Data speeds and coverage was better, then all the other crap is understandable and acceptable.
Phones will come out.. not a big concern like others here.
Price... inflation is a *****.. but what u going to do?
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That's how I feel, and like I mentioned I wouldn't mind paying the extra prices for data if it was actually usable. I don't get 4G yet, hopefully soon. I find myself using WIFI from my home and various other locations while I'm out and about. I honestly have only used 306,000KB in my last month of service because it's so damn slow. I can't even tether because it's so slow.
I just don't get all the "stop the complaining" stuff. We pay good money to Sprint for our access to their network. Their is plenty of exciting stuff coming out for Android on the other three major carriers. Leaked and confirmed. Have you seen one leak regarding Sprint? Sure, I realize they may offer up something soon but where is the buzz to keep you engaged? They certainly created buzz with their "Industry First" announcement then they threw out a Tonka toy. Our provider of choice NEEDS to hear that we are informed customers who won't stand for BS like that and if nothing enticing is coming down the chute they are going to have a high turnover. Plain and simple.
I'd like my 3G speeds back. I use to be able to hit 1.6 Mbps going down on 3G with no problems just a few months ago. Now, I'm lucky to get 25% of that regardless of where I am or what time it is.
Maybe Sprint should upgrade their existing infrastructure to handle all the new customers they have gotten instead of spending so much money on 4G, Nascar, and paying David Blaine to show up at the release of that atrocious Kyocera phone.
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I just don't get all the "stop the complaining" stuff. We pay good money to Sprint for our access to their network. Their is plenty of exciting stuff coming out for Android on the other three major carriers. Leaked and confirmed. Have you seen one leak regarding Sprint? Sure, I realize they may offer up something soon but where is the buzz to keep you engaged? They certainly created buzz with their "Industry First" announcement then they threw out a Tonka toy. Our provider of choice NEEDS to hear that we are informed customers who won't stand for BS like that and if nothing enticing is coming down the chute they are going to have a high turnover. Plain and simple.
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Very commendable that you as well as others want to get the point across to Sprint however this isn't a Sprint complaint forum. If people want to tell Sprint how they feel they should write letters directly to them. Everyone on these forums has at least one gripe about our beloved network of choice and if we all started a thread to express those complaints that's all this forum would consist of.
Do you think Sprint throttles service? Only for connection card or both?
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No. There are some towers I get 1.3mbs and others leas than 100k. I've tested this all in the same day and within an hour of each other.
I think the issue is telco related and the quality of the t1's at the site.
I wonder when they will start using more fiber to the towers.
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Do you think Sprint throttles service? Only for connection card or both?
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"According to Engadget, further investigation into Sprint's alleged throttling has revealed that, in actuality, the discussed feature refers to a specific enterprise setting that will be unveiled in the future. Instead of ramping down the speeds of customers that use too much data, Sprint will instead allow its enterprise customers to limit employee data usage—in theory, allowing a company to turn down one's accessibility to the mobile Internet in cases of extreme use.
While that rumor is dead and bust, it's nevertheless easy to see how many could have erroneously assumed the worst about Sprint's data plan."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364989,00.asp
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Do you think Sprint throttles service? Only for connection card or both?
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Between what's been said about them by reviewers and news articles, no..not at all.
Plus, with their new $10 / month for all, they would be lying to the customer by throttling.
I don't know why you posted this though because, especially lately, very few here are going to be willing to discuss facts.
They're just gonna troll with "omgz spint sux0rs"
I dont care what anyone says they've throttled me more than once. I can always tell exactly when they do it too. It's generally when i've watched a couple of movies on netflix all of a sudden my data speeds bomb for a few hours and then go back to normal. And this was in the middle of the night so I know it wasnt because of a lot of people being on the towers. It's happened to me twice.
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I dont care what anyone says they've throttled me more than once. I can always tell exactly when they do it too. It's generally when i've watched a couple of movies on netflix all of a sudden my data speeds bomb for a few hours and then go back to normal. And this was in the middle of the night so I know it wasnt because of a lot of people being on the towers. It's happened to me twice.
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Yes man, just you.
47,000,000 customers, many news places testing constantly, but when it comes to YOU they actually have a guy sitting there ready to push the "throttle" button to piss you off.
brownhornet said:
I dont care what anyone says they've throttled me more than once. I can always tell exactly when they do it too. It's generally when i've watched a couple of movies on netflix all of a sudden my data speeds bomb for a few hours and then go back to normal. And this was in the middle of the night so I know it wasnt because of a lot of people being on the towers. It's happened to me twice.
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I used to think the same thing. I also use the Evo 4G as my Netflix conduit, and in recent months have experienced the same erratic Wimax performance that you and so many of us describe. I find speaking with Tier Two Tech Support at ClearWire a better source for 4G network conditions than Sprint. Moreover, because I am not a ClearWire customer, I may speak candidly. Two days ago, I asked specifically if Sprint/ClearWire throttled any bandwidth-intensive servers, such as Netflix. I explained that I like to put on a Netflix movie around 12:30 AM and that for the past couple of months, available bandwidth would shrink to an unusable level within a few minutes of starting the movie. He explained that Clear customers would experience throttling but as a Sprint customer, I would need to fall into the top 5% of data users AND be attempting a "Torrent-like" download when the tower's capacity was maxed out, to trigger any throttling. Any throttling would be to a customer, not a particular server. He added that Sprint takes their 4G Unlimited Data Plans very seriously.
ClearWire performs routine maintenance/upgrades to their network towers between the hours of 12:00 AM and 6:00 AM. roughly five days in a normal month. However, as we all know, the last few months have not been normal. One may expect diminished performance during these times. Sprint/ClearWire are working hard to fix the 4G network problems that no one at Sprint will admit exist.
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that no one at Sprint will admit exist.
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Not true at all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11631898&postcount=202
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11560714&postcount=124
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11568596&postcount=144
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11585605&postcount=173
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Not true at all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11631898&postcount=202
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11560714&postcount=124
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11585605&postcount=173
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"Tongue in cheek,"
Look it up!
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"Tongue in cheek,"
Look it up!
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Are you trying to suggest that they haven't "addressed the issue" because they haven't held some kind of press conference or something?
They've admitted to the issue and are working on it.
And if you are respectful and ask for it they will refund part of your bill accordingly.
He's saying he was being sarcastic.
Tongue-in-cheek From Wikipedia,
Tongue-in-cheek is a phrase used as a figure of speech to imply that a statement or other production is ironically intended and it should not be taken at face value.
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Holyrolla said:
He's saying he was being sarcastic.
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I know what it means.
Read his post, there was nothing sarcastic about his claim that "Sprint won't acknowledge the issues."
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Are you trying to suggest that they haven't "addressed the issue" because they haven't held some kind of press conference or something?
They've admitted to the issue and are working on it.
And if you are respectful and ask for it they will refund part of your bill accordingly.
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For Christ's sake, you can't be serious!
I've been complaining to Tech support, Tier 1, 2, and supervisors since early October. The standard response has been, "We haven't received any complaints," or "Our 4G event board shows no problems," etc. "Let's trouble shoot your phone and if that doesn't work, "We'll make an appointment for you to take it to a Sprint repair center to be looked at."
Press conference? Really!!! I'd be thrilled if one person in Advanced Tech would acknowledge there's a problem.
As for courteous, I must be the most courteous person in the world. I have had 3 of my last 5 bills credited in full to my account.
To whom have they admitted to the issue? And who specifically admitted to it?
If you ask, why then am I complaining since I have been taken care of? Simply put, I don't like being lied to.
tmwilsoniv said:
For Christ's sake, you can't be serious!
I've been complaining to Tech support, Tier 1, 2, and supervisors since early October. The standard response has been, "We haven't received any complaints," or "Our 4G event board shows no problems," etc. "Let's trouble shoot your phone and if that doesn't work, "We'll make an appointment for you to take it to a Sprint repair center to be looked at."
Press conference? Really!!! I'd be thrilled if one person in Advanced Tech would acknowledge there's a problem.
As for courteous, I must be the most courteous person in the world. I have had 3 of my last 5 bills credited in full to my account.
To whom have they admitted to the issue? And who specifically admitted to it?
If you ask, why then am I complaining since I have been taken care of? Simply put, I don't like being lied to.
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They have acknowledged network issues directly to me, and other forum members, and refunded mine and several other forum members accounts.
Refunds are an obvious admission of an issue.
I would suggest you contact [email protected] if this has been going on for an elongated period of time.
I guarantee things get done that way.
i know for a fact clearwire does.
clearwire 4g = sprint 4g.
Last-Chance said:
i know for a fact clearwire does.
clearwire 4g = sprint 4g.
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Please provide factual evidence that Clearwire throttle's 4g and that any throttle they may do affects Sprint's 4g users.
My data dips significantly during business hours and on saturdays... quite simply, there arent eenough people in the city to clog the towers enough to justify the drastic change, let alone people using sprint data.
Just sayin.
sobis1dm said:
quite simply, there arent eenough people in the city to clog the towers enough to justify the drastic change, let alone people using sprint data.
Just sayin.
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That's a pretty ridiculous claim.
http://www.ctia.org/advocacy/research/index.cfm/aid/10323
Sprint has around 47 million customers.
That means one in every five adults has Sprint.
If it does clog the network, that means the network is behind and something they need to work on, but there's more than enough users to do so.
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Are you trying to suggest that they haven't "addressed the issue" because they haven't held some kind of press conference or something?
They've admitted to the issue and are working on it.
And if you are respectful and ask for it they will refund part of your bill accordingly.
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does sprint pay you to be their advocate? talk about a fanboy!
fixxxer2008 said:
does sprint pay you to be their advocate? talk about a fanboy!
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Ya know what...I'm getting really, really tired of the name calling.
You DO realize that I just told him to contact the CEO's office right? [Annoying them and give them work]
You DO realize that I have advised plenty of people on how to get a REFUND from Sprint right?
How are ANY of those two things "advocating" Sprint?
Exactly.
Whoops on me for trying to help the guy get the issue solved.
I'm sure this has been posted and I may get flamed for it but I don't really care, I don't have lots of time at work to check my bases before posting and only get to view XDA intermittently.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903327904576526690675657466.html
While this at first glance appears to be more Apple happy news, I think this is great news for all Sprint users as it will drive more business Sprint's way. As they grow and become more competitive in the market prices will stabilize across the board for all carriers and drive the US Cell Market away from the Duopoly that it is headed for. If this report proves true it's a huge win for Sprint and I say thumbs up to Hesse.
Well...assuming Sprint will get the next Nexus, this means they'll be releasing the iPhone, SGS2, and Nexus Prime all within (possibly) a month of each other. Worst case...3 months.
If this is the case, this may crush my dream of Google buying Sprint
hayzooos said:
Well...assuming Sprint will get the next Nexus, this means they'll be releasing the iPhone, SGS2, and Nexus Prime all within (possibly) a month of each other. Worst case...3 months.
If this is the case, this may crush my dream of Google buying Sprint
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Lol. I don't think sprint will ever sell. The company is growing more and more and if this is the case a lot of Verizon and att customers will come to sprint IF sprint keeps the prices they have now.
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hayzooos said:
Well...assuming Sprint will get the next Nexus, this means they'll be releasing the iPhone, SGS2, and Nexus Prime all within (possibly) a month of each other. Worst case...3 months.
If this is the case, this may crush my dream of Google buying Sprint
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Or they may do it to piss apple off...
Kidding.
But this would be a great thing for sprint...maybe not the customers...I don't think they're network can handle this. We would all get slow data speeds/crappy call quality...and the giant amount of att/verizon users who want unlimited data is even worse.
hayzooos said:
Well...assuming Sprint will get the next Nexus, this means they'll be releasing the iPhone, SGS2, and Nexus Prime all within (possibly) a month of each other. Worst case...3 months.
If this is the case, this may crush my dream of Google buying Sprint
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Doubt google will buy sprint just to have to pay sprint's debt off right after
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This made my wife's day...
Of course, I told her that I don't support iPhones...
There's been scuttlebutt about this for a while. I agree with other posters...if it helps Sprint, great, but I have zero interest in it and don't like the potential effects it may have on the rest of Sprint's network. Also hope it's not bad for their other partnerships.
It would be hilarious if they kept it at 3G though. And the Appleheads or Jobs dickriders or whatever you call them wouldn't even care...many of them think AT&T and Verizon iPhones already ARE 4G. (chortle)
I would be tempted to buy the iphone5 but i'm in love with the android now, and any iphone app looks 100x better on the ipad.
I don't usually post more than once from work but this article needs to be added here.
http://www.mobiledia.com/news/104313.html
Maybe Sprint getting the iPhone is a sign that Apple is becoming frustrated with poor network and unresponsive customer service from AT&T.
As for the overload of the network with an influx of iPhone users, it won't hit Sprint for several years, especially considering how many iTards are stuck in contracts still, and don't have the money to cough up 300-400 per device every couple of years. ALSO this may speed the roll out of LTE as I am sure that Apple wants a 4G device, but would not likely settle for WiMax as producing not only CDMA/GSM but LTE/WiMax as well would strain their manufacturing and cut into their all important profit margin. WiMax is the obvious odd man out.
This is mostly very good news for us. It'll keep the people who want an iPhone from leaving Sprint and bolster Sprint's marketshare which can only help us. Also it may drive Google to ensure the next Nexus phone launches on every network that has an iPhone, making the Nexus Prime (or whatever it's called) more likely for us. And since that's essentially what I'm waiting on to replace my Epic, I like my odds better now.
Only downside: the iPhone has been said to be the cause of AT&T's network troubles and did have an effect on Verizon as well. I'm concerned that it may force Sprint to reconsider their data plans which may hurt us, or the additional traffic may cause problems for us. But still, I'd say the former benefits outweigh these risks.
iPhone 5 with unlimited data plan will be quite a sell for Sprint.
I bought Sprint stock two days ago.
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I am now quite bullish on Sprint. Evo 4G was the best-selling Android phone of Q2 2011. Evo 3D started selling in July.
There have been news that Sprint is buying out the rest of Clearwire and integrating them into Network Vision. The best scenario is that a group of cable providers (Cox, Comcast, etc.) are investing in Sprint, which will then use the money to directly buy Clearwire.
Thus, Clearwire's lack-of-money build-out issue and LTE transition will be resolved. Sprint will have a huge spectrum advantage over ATT and Verizon. And it will have an infusion of cash and outside support for its Network Vision and leveraging of iPhone 5 sales.
AND...
since Sprint also announced today that it would begin offering the new Blackberry Curve 95-something-or-other (who really cares about RIM?) I decided to check Sprint stock and if you own any, I hope you enjoyed the 10.12% jump in value, and an additional .84% after hours. 11% in a day? Not bad for the girls we go with...
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since Sprint also announced today that it would begin offering the new Blackberry Curve 95-something-or-other (who really cares about RIM?) I decided to check Sprint stock and if you own any, I hope you enjoyed the 10.12% jump in value, and an additional .84% after hours. 11% in a day? Not bad for the girls we go with...
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I bought some stock a week ago. We'll see how it goes.
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.....only to make an already overburdened 3G network even worse. I shudder at the mere thought of it. Another reason I'm seriously tempted to bolt for big red.
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Just playing devil's advocate here. The arguement about network performance degradation isn't necessarily relevant here, as network footprint doesn't have as much to do with it as available spectrum does. And sprint has more than any other carrier. Think of it as width versus length debate. As far as how many users and how much data they consume is concerned, it's more about the spread of spectrum than the strength.
EDIT: and while yes it is true that a single tower can only handle so much and this is where the footprint arguement grounds itself in, this is also a much easier solved problem than the complex one of spreading out your spectrum. The cost is more fixed: increasing footprint means increasing tower count. Increasing spectrum, however, is a different beast. This problem means having to acquire spectrum off of those who own it. And the cost of that can vary greatly and isn't as easily obtained.
Plus, sprint already has a ton of money invested in network vision, and has a deadline of 2014. Rest assured, with the amount of money at risk, they will most definitely be hitting that deadline
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excuse my french but idgaf what anyone says about apple and the iphone. if the iphone 5 is a winner then ill jump ship in a heartbeat even without wimax. after all the problems my epic has given me i will never buy another samsung
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Just playing devil's advocate here. The arguement about network performance degradation isn't necessarily relevant here, as network footprint doesn't have as much to do with it as available spectrum does. And sprint has more than any other carrier. Think of it as width versus length debate. As far as how many users and how much data they consume is concerned, it's more about the spread of spectrum than the strength.
EDIT: and while yes it is true that a single tower can only handle so much and this is where the footprint arguement grounds itself in, this is also a much easier solved problem than the complex one of spreading out your spectrum. The cost is more fixed: increasing footprint means increasing tower count. Increasing spectrum, however, is a different beast. This problem means having to acquire spectrum off of those who own it. And the cost of that can vary greatly and isn't as easily obtained. Plus, both the frequency and voice technology sprint and verizon employ are much more accomodating to high volumes of traffic than what att has. Hence, why verizon dealt well with it.
Plus, sprint already has a ton of money invested in network vision, and has a deadline of 2014. Rest assured, with the amount of money at risk, they will most definitely be hitting that deadline
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Overstew said:
I bought some stock a week ago. We'll see how it goes.
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Same here.
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Win-Win for Sprint definitely! I prefer Android, but this will most definitely make my mom happy as she's been wanting an iPhone since they first came out. Sprint can definitely compete now & IMO they will have the best phone lineup to offer.
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Just what we need apple fan boys at sprint stores. And bye bye unlimited data....
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