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I just wanted to let you guys know that if you have a lot of crashes and/or problems with PPP data, you might try to change your Radio to one of the latest versions.
I'm curently using the energyrom(posted on this forum) and I always used the 2.07.50
Radio rom. With this Radio, I had a lot of problems with the Mattc build and the froyostone build concerning PPP data. I sometimes didn't saw the arrows, the phone froze,bad reception etc...etc...
After playing with the latest Radio, all my problems are gone. The 3G/HSDPA works as it should be. So for the folks who are still using RMNET like I used too, it might be worth changing your Radio to see if it fixes anything.
Hopefully it works for some people, but it doesn't for me.
I've always used 2.12 radio but PPP just does not work at all.
I'm still trying to work out exactly what prevents some people from using PPP.
I also had to use APN backup to configure my APN settings properly. Before that, it would'nt work for me either.
Try 2.10.50_26. Ppp works for me
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im using whats in my sig and PPP works for me.
2.10 here too.
PPP works fine.
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How far r we with the new build 1.2 can u give us in time waited all day today its 1am in UK now
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yeah changing the radio fixed alot of my bigs
+1 for radio 2.10. I tried 2.12 and got freezes with PPP. Going to the radio below and PPP acts just like RMNet. I get the occasional 10-15 second freeze when recovering in WiFi, but I never get that in 3G/H mode.
PPP never work for me, tried all available radios for TMOUS, I don't get service at all.
+1 for 2.10.50.26 never had a problem with PPP, and I've used them all.
I use my ROMs clubbed with 2.10.50.26 as Radio and mattc/shub/hyper all work great PPP/RMNET/Wifi/Bluetooth
I guess it depends on what core files are being used on WM side...i use 2.14 base which came with the same radio as mentioned above and has best compatibility with the core files.
Yesterday, I got 1% hr standby with Push On and Bluetooth headset connected and few SMS....thats very much comparable to WM itself...however, sometimes it suddenly drains and I suspect some bg prog for that ...
Just adding a different approach to the story... Could the carrier have something to do with this??
I don't think the Radio version has anything to do with the hard freezes.. As I've tried every radio version and winmo compatible roms for android builds and still, I would get a hard freeze each and everytime.. It would work for a period of time, but once it disconnects and try to reconnect, it freezes.. Sometimes it would just freeze as soon as you boot Android.. And that only happens when I input the right APN settings for my internet plan.. Or when it starts accepting data's.. So I think it's got something to do with the Carrier, APN and Proxy settings.. Either you have to have the right internet settings for the Android phones/plan, or it would freeze your phone.. Anyway, that's just what I think.. RMNET on the other hand is rock solid! It doesn't matter whether you put a Proxy or not, it would connect just fine without freezing.. Just my observation..
For me only rmnet work, ppp never worked. I am in Switzerland by Sunrise. Is there someone being by Sunrise Switzerland and having ppp working?
I am running hd2 mattc 1.6b.
for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.
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for those with working PPP, sorry to say, it's only a matter of time for yours to crash...your lucky. There is still an issue with PPP in the latest kernel's. They are working on a fix. Hopefully you will still be lucky and your PPP build is still working when they update the kernel with a fix. For others with the hard freeze's. Your not alone, it's not your fault or radio, it's an error in the kernel. I don't take credit for this info, read the IRC channel and see for yourself. Straight from Letema & gauner1986- the devs who made PPP work in the first place on our HD2's.
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Thank you for the info. I was getting crazy.. I had the Matt 1.7 ppp working for 2 days no problem at all. But after 2 days I'm having intermittent hard freeze when I start the apn. ..
I was going to try with a 2.10. Radio.. but after your post I will kelp 2.12 radio and move to rmnet
Thanks for sharing
I'm on 3 in Australia
In my case both PPP and RMNET are working for normal Internet, but I cannot access Plane 3 on PPP, but I can access with RMNET. Anyone has the same issue on 3 in other countries? or perhaps any solution on how to enable Planet 3 on PPP?
I am running an HD2 with Froyostone 3.2.
I purchased a G2 and switched to Android web...using the Android SIM in the HD2...does it make a difference..Im not sure.
When in WinMo i can access the internet..and in Android as well, but i get alot of drops in the Android.
Anyone else try this ?
Edit: using darkstone [email protected] V3
Are you talking about your data plan on your contract/tariff?
They largely mean nothing important. APN's will invariable be the same (this especially rings true if you changed something on your tariff but nothing changed on your phone), it's just a way of the networks and carriers to try and make more money off people.
Thank you.
Can you tell me is there anything I can do to keep the network from dropping out so much. I read through some threads...but don't really understand what I need to so exactly
htc hd2 froyostone
Atm PPP data disconnects are a tricky beast to contend with. There are lots of threads that deal with the situation, but as far as I am aware (and it would be big news!) it's not been fixed permanently on any build.
I'm using Shubcraft 2.0 atm and my data only disconnects when I switch towers (basically when I travel outside of my local area) but turning my mobile data off then on again brings it back. It's a minor inconvenience to me, I know it's a great annoyance to others who aren't as lucky as me.
The only real advice I can give is keep reading those threads that deal with it, and see if other peoples fixes/workarounds work for you.
Thanks again....that's pretty much what I been doing disconnecting data...other than that..I have no other issues with this build
..I rarely even use the G2..hah
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whats up guys, so ive read a few sites that explain how to install android onto the hd2. i flashed one with no problems and it works flawlessly then i tried doing my cousins phone and his is messing up, contacts wont save and its locking up every once in a while.
So here is my question alot of the threads i was reading had conflicting information. So they are both flashed with hardspl already what is the lightest and most stable winmo to lay android over top of. Also what do you guys suggest for the best android rom to run over winmo and would a bootloader make the phone more stable. So i know what to do but i want to know from you experienced vets as to what is the most stable winmo that will run android great and what android rom to run for minimal problems. Ive read hundreds of pages on roms and such but everything is always outdated by time i get to it..
So what is working great for you guys. Sense is preferred on android and winmo will pretty much never be ran so no sense would be lighter im sure. Thanks for all the help in advance.
Also one more thing, as both phones are currently running android when they both try to connect to the same wifi router niether one will recieve data until one of the hd2 disconnects from the router. Also confused with that as my evo never loses internet when connected to the same router. For your info the router is a 2wire att dsl gateway. im thinking it could be a problem with the router but that shouldnt be a problem, so maybe the android rom i am using is not using its real mac to identify itself with the router and is causing problems. The wifi is encrypted with wep encryption.
a) You did NOT flash Android, you simply booted into android via your SD card.
b) Android does NOT run on top of windows, When you run haret it kicks windows mobile from ram and boots into Android kernel. Windows is not running at all.
c) Do not ask "what is best" questions they are silly and annoy everybody.
Stop been lazy and read, do some research and learn something, If you dont you end up with problems like your cousins phone.
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a) You did NOT flash Android, you simply booted into android via your SD card.
b) Android does NOT run on top of windows, When you run haret it kicks windows mobile from ram and boots into Android kernel. Windows is not running at all.
c) Do not ask "what is best" questions they are silly and annoy everybody.
Stop been lazy and read, do some research and learn something, If you dont you end up with problems like your cousins phone.
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+1 for those tips
TheATHEiST said:
a) You did NOT flash Android, you simply booted into android via your SD card.
b) Android does NOT run on top of windows, When you run haret it kicks windows mobile from ram and boots into Android kernel. Windows is not running at all.
c) Do not ask "what is best" questions they are silly and annoy everybody.
Stop been lazy and read, do some research and learn something, If you dont you end up with problems like your cousins phone.
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A is correct, at least until NAND is done and stable.
Just to expand on B, the only thing I get out of different WinMo ROM's is speed of boot. Disable Sense if your WinMo ROM has it so when it boots to WinMo and kicks off haret, it kicks up faster.
C, yeah, I have to agree, you ask 1000 people about 100 ROMs and and somehow, you will end up with 1000 different answers.
Another thing to try is to backup your SD Card and format the SD Card (yeah, I know Dev's say it's not needed anymore, but why not?). Make sure it's a Class 6 or higher (DEFINITELY NOT a Class 2 and some reports show Class 4 work, but I try and stick with Class 6).
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Also one more thing, as both phones are currently running android when they both try to connect to the same wifi router niether one will recieve data until one of the hd2 disconnects from the router. Also confused with that as my evo never loses internet when connected to the same router. For your info the router is a 2wire att dsl gateway. im thinking it could be a problem with the router but that shouldnt be a problem, so maybe the android rom i am using is not using its real mac to identify itself with the router and is causing problems. The wifi is encrypted with wep encryption.
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When running Android, the reported MAC address of your wifi card is not the actual MAC address, but one that can be changed.
Because of this, lots of builds have the same MAC address, and therefore you'll have this problem when connecting to the same wireless router. (If you're both running the same build then you'll definitely have this problem.)
Do a search - you can set the MAC address in the startup.txt file, but I can't remember what the actual text should read. It's been discussed in the forums before now, so it's there somewhere.
Or instead of being a jerk you can offer help and support or skip the thread entirely lol. Saves us all time.
Anyway, there are alot of ROMS out that cater to specific tastes. Me, I love Sense so that's my preference. Right now though I'm running a stock ROM from tytung that is running smooth as butter. No lags and data drops are almost non existent. But I know ill be running a new Rom within a few hours.
I'd suggest testing the builds on a week trial run or shorter. Try one out for a few days to get a feel for it and see if it has issues you don't want to deal with.
As far as WinMo, that doesn't really matter. I have a GTX full ROM running, I just don't use it except when restarting lol.
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Hello all,
I have an O2 UK HD2 and I am trying to port across to Android. I already own a Dell Streak running 2.1 and i'd like 2.2 on my HD2.
I've read through a lot of post and believe I know enough to do this - but I am having recurring issues which I cannot seem to get around.
Before I got serious with this, I simply flashed a high version number radio and jumped right into the first android build I could download. The issues were the robotic voice and I cannot get an internet connection (although I have the 'H' icon continuously).
I read up, did some research and followed lots of instructions.
So far i've downloaded several 'android friendly' WinMo ROMS:
Energy.Leo.29005.Sense2.5.Dec.13
Energy.Leo.28244.Sense2.5.MaxSense.Nov.16
Miri_Steve0007_Elegancia_V1.0_CHT2_FINAL
Miri_Steve0007_EleganciaMaxSense_V5.0_FINAL
I have the following radios:
2.10.50.19_2
2_10_50_26
2_11_50_26
2_12_50_02_2
2_15_50_14
And the following android's:
FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2
SuperRAM_Froyo_v1
I've not got the time to swap and change radio/rom/android build 25 times just to find a working version - but needless to say the amount of swapping i've done so far is providing no change to my issues above.
I want my internet to work and I want no robot voice.
Does anyone know, from the list above, what selection of the 3 items do I need to get this to work once and for all?
Also, i'd prefer to be using the semi-recent stock ROM for O2 HD2 as I don't like custom ROMs, has anyone got android working on the stock O2 ROM?
Thanks in advance
Dan
i always ran mdeejay builds and never had the robotic voice, i also had a stock rom and 2.15 radio. i hope that helps.
caseyman4285 said:
i always ran mdeejay builds and never had the robotic voice, i also had a stock rom and 2.15 radio. i hope that helps.
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same here.
Just a suggestion, try this mix (works for me giving 3-6mA standby):
Dutty v11 (Christmas ROM)
2.12.50.xx
mdeejay revolution 1.7
everything works.
Thank-you both.
I've just started a download of the 3.14 stock ROM build, as i've got a network .cab that should install my O2 network settings for me.
The lack of internet connectivity means the phone is useless in android mode, so i'm going to give it one last try once i've upgraded my stock ROM and see if I can't get it working. I doubt I will though, but at least i'll have the most up to date WM ROM going.
I assume your net connections simply 'worked'?
I don't think you need a stock Tom, but you definitely need different builds.
The froyostone 3.2 is a discontinued build and likely doesn't have the latest kernels, wrappers, patches etc that have greatly improved many peoples android experience.
on the other hand, superram is highly beta, and is in the process of being revised and improved by darkstone.
Basically you hit both ends of the spectrum in terms of maturity. Try a couple of other builds and see what happens. I recommend going with a build that uses hastarin 8.5+ as the kernel, buy only because for some reason mdjs kernels have never worked for me. Other people say very good things about it though.
One thing you should pay special attention to is the changelog. Usually this will indicate how far along (and how often) the build is being updated.
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I know the stock ROM isn't a requirement, in fact i'm pretty sure it's almost detrimental - but i've spent 3 days faffing around with this and i'm literally having to go back to WinMo with nothing to show for my troubles.
Basically i'm upgrading to 3.14 now and trying android one last time, knowing full well it's probably not going to work but still, can't help trying can it. If it fails, at least i'm on the newest WinMo build, and i've still got my Dell Streak with a pending 2.2 upgrade at some point this week.
dkl_uk said:
Hello all,
I have an O2 UK HD2 and I am trying to port across to Android. I already own a Dell Streak running 2.1 and i'd like 2.2 on my HD2.
I've read through a lot of post and believe I know enough to do this - but I am having recurring issues which I cannot seem to get around.
Before I got serious with this, I simply flashed a high version number radio and jumped right into the first android build I could download. The issues were the robotic voice and I cannot get an internet connection (although I have the 'H' icon continuously).
I read up, did some research and followed lots of instructions.
So far i've downloaded several 'android friendly' WinMo ROMS:
Energy.Leo.29005.Sense2.5.Dec.13
Energy.Leo.28244.Sense2.5.MaxSense.Nov.16
Miri_Steve0007_Elegancia_V1.0_CHT2_FINAL
Miri_Steve0007_EleganciaMaxSense_V5.0_FINAL
I have the following radios:
2.10.50.19_2
2_10_50_26
2_11_50_26
2_12_50_02_2
2_15_50_14
And the following android's:
FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2
SuperRAM_Froyo_v1
I've not got the time to swap and change radio/rom/android build 25 times just to find a working version - but needless to say the amount of swapping i've done so far is providing no change to my issues above.
I want my internet to work and I want no robot voice.
Does anyone know, from the list above, what selection of the 3 items do I need to get this to work once and for all?
Also, i'd prefer to be using the semi-recent stock ROM for O2 HD2 as I don't like custom ROMs, has anyone got android working on the stock O2 ROM?
Thanks in advance
Dan
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As far as stock, check out my set up. As far as wifi; it may be your APN and DNS settings, in any build when you change builds it changes settings.
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As far as stock, check out my set up. As far as wifi; it may be your APN and DNS settings, in any build when you change builds it changes settings.
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Hi, the internet issues are with the network not a WiFi router. The internet simply refuses to work, even though I have the 'H' icon.
dkl_uk said:
Hi, the internet issues are with the network not a WiFi router. The internet simply refuses to work, even though I have the 'H' icon.
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That's why I mentioned the APN settings
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you went into your APN settings and found GiffGaff selected.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if you went into your APN settings and found GiffGaff selected.
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Agreed with that, I've had a couple of builds that gave me no data, it was the provider settings that it selected in the first setup sequence. you can manually change them (the o2 webpage should have them, or try some of the o2 one from here: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist) and you should be golden.
Try creating new APNs, deleting old ones
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Agreed with that, I've had a couple of builds that gave me no data, it was the provider settings that it selected in the first setup sequence. you can manually change them (the o2 webpage should have them, or try some of the o2 one from here: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/wiki/APNlist) and you should be golden.
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I can second that. I've had problems with numerous builds and APN settings. I personally found (after a lot of frustration) that double checking the the settings was not enough, rather I needed to add completely new APNs using the info from my provider. Apparently some of the settings were different when the APNs were added manually than the default ones (MCC, MNC?), which were not specified by the provider and I therefore could not check if correct with the original APNs, if you know what I mean. As for builds, I personally recommend JDMS or HD2ONE for a good combination of speed, reliability and functionality; I personally like some of the CyanogenMod features like the power bar in the status bar, menu button to unlock, etc. Good luck!
I'm currently trying out Ginger HD2 (Gingerbread themed build, but still 2.2). That was set to GiffGaff at first, but there were a couple of O2 ones in there and the first choice worked for me. I've had this in a couple of other builds too. I guess some builds come with plenty of APNs, and some come with none.
Definitely start there though.
sounds familure.im using energy Leo rom and a 2.15.50 radio and an mdj desire hd build,that work fine now,just make sure you disable htc sence in the winmo before you boot android,see if that works
Hi guys
Thanks for the replies above.
It would appear the Android builds I was using weren't giving me this 'APN' setup option, ironically I only just installed a build now that gives me the popup once it's read my SIM card to select a network - so now I know what you mean by APN, I think.
Anyway, i'm glad to report that I have stock 3.14WWE and an Android build w/sense working perfectly (I can't remember the name but it's none of the builds I listed in the OP), albeit if left overnight, has become a little laggy, but I don't care as a quick reboot sorted it this morning.
Thankyou all for your responses.
Hi Guys I have a little a problem with all ROM that I tested (cotulla and Prj Clean and one another that I don't remember) and I don't found a way to solve it.
My data connection is unstable... Sometime work very good but in a few minute doesn't work even if the network coverage is high. When doesn't work I seen on display that only the "transmit arrow" below the "H or 3g" blink. Tha connection sometime restore it functionality.
With windows mobile everything work good.
I have:
HSPL 2.08
Radio 2.15.50.14 But I try also with other Radio
Vodafone ITA
Any advice?
thanks, I'm getting crazy
Post questions in the correct forum... and search for PPP and RMNET. You are using PPP.
nobnut said:
Post questions in the correct forum... and search for PPP and RMNET. You are using PPP.
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I wouldn't be so quick to say that RMNET is perfect as with me I find that it drops the connection a lot and often will not resolve a connection!
I haven't tried PPP since my last SD build so I can't tell if it's still as bad but it was quite bad back then.
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Post questions in the correct forum... and search for PPP and RMNET. You are using PPP.
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cotulla stock build use rmnet I thought....
Any advice? This morning I tried MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.3 data was working for 5 hours and then drop down... and now nothing or very very slow....
I have the same problem too using Hyperdroid and MDJ Gingerbread. It works fine for a day and the next day in the afternoon the data would be lost. I mean no data whatsoever, not data drops like in SD builds. I can't see any G/E/3G/H symbol.
Rossimac said:
I wouldn't be so quick to say that RMNET is perfect as with me I find that it drops the connection a lot and often will not resolve a connection!
I haven't tried PPP since my last SD build so I can't tell if it's still as bad but it was quite bad back then.
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Yeah that's been my experience too. In fact RMNET caused me to have so many screen freezes I had to revert back to PPP as the lesser of two evils. I guess this is the penalty for running Android on a non-native device I never experienced flawless data yet on any bulid be it SD, RAM whatever.
creed said:
Yeah that's been my experience too. In fact RMNET caused me to have so many screen freezes I had to revert back to PPP as the lesser of two evils. I guess this is the penalty for running Android on a non-native device I never experienced flawless data yet on any bulid be it SD, RAM whatever.
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It's the only reason why I'm thinking about moving to a Nexus S - the data drops on this device are just not fun! I love my HD2 though, so I'll not sell it.
This problem has been here since day 1 with Android - but I'm not complaining as i haven't done any work with this, so I'll put up with what I'm given by the devs!