I have a few questions... - Epic 4G General

I'm debating on buying the EPIC 4g. The super expensive price is already a deterrent for me. Also the fact that it is Samsung is another huge deterrent. I had the Samsung Moment and the charger broke on me 5 times. I had to take it in to Sprint every time and they charged me $50 each time and my device isn't even a year old yet. My charging port on my Moment has broken yet again so I have to charge the battery in an external charger. I'm not rough with my phones either. I take VERY good care of them.

There isn't any question in this post.

Hey, I have a few questions too. Penguins are neat. I really like pizza, but I hate mushrooms. Also, I really like going to the beach but driving through New Jersey really bothers me. I'm a good driver though.
On a totally unrelated note, buy the Epic.

cachorropedorro said:
I'm debating on buying the EPIC 4g. The super expensive price is already a deterrent for me. Also the fact that it is Samsung is another huge deterrent. I had the Samsung Moment and the charger broke on me 5 times. I had to take it in to Sprint every time and they charged me $50 each time and my device isn't even a year old yet. My charging port on my Moment has broken yet again so I have to charge the battery in an external charger. I'm not rough with my phones either. I take VERY good care of them.
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1) It will likely be $200 or less even for upgraders a few weeks after release, assuming it doesn't sell out. Therefore if you wait and see what people experience with it and wait for some devlopment on it, then get the phone, you will be set
2) If something happens like a charging port breaking, that should be covered free under the warranty. If they charged you for it, then it's just because they can. Be smart and buy the $7/month insurance for your phone, then they'd probably handle issues like that for free, I would hope. Or you could always do the warranty through samsung if it came down to it. Also if you are waiting a few weeks before trying to get the phone, this gives you time to see if there seem to be any immediate build quality issues, from charging port trouble to other issues.
Guys, just because the OP didn't specifically ask questions doesn't mean there were obvious questions/concerns in there. Don't be dense/rude.

Thanks for not being rude. I did have the warranty. Sprint said that the charging port breaking was "physical damage," that's why I had to pay $50 each time.

cachorropedorro said:
Thanks for not being rude. I did have the warranty. Sprint said that the charging port breaking was "physical damage," that's why I had to pay $50 each time.
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That's total BS. I'd say show me where there is any sign of physical damage or stress put on my phone. If they can't show, prove or explain it to you, then they can't very well charge you for it. You need to play hardball with these people. Charging ports break all the time, Pretty much every laptop I know of has the port/cord wear out/break after a couple years, except for mine of course. It just happens. Either way that would suck with the epic then because it has a $100 deductible not a $50 deductible.
You could always print out the policy and explain that you believe the issue to be due to "normal wear and tear" as the contract covers "Mechanical or electrical failure, routine maintenance, and failure from normal wear and tear. File your replacement request within 60 days of incident." I'd call the port just outright breaking through no fault of my own, a mechanical failure due to wear and tear. Then again I guess they could just pull the "act of god" card on you.
"The Program does not cover:
1> Incidental or consequential damages; 2> FAILURES CAUSED BY ACTS OF GOD, fire, flood, explosion,
war, terrorism, strike, embargo, acts of the government, military authority, or the elements"
that makes sense right? God wanted your phone to die because he secretly is out to get you, just like those little green men you hide under the bed from haha. Either way I'd say they just try to charge you wherever they can, and if you stay calm and logically explain your position and belief and know yourself to be in the right, and stand your ground, you can often get away without paying the deductible.

hydralisk said:
Hey, I have a few questions too. Penguins are neat. I really like pizza, but I hate mushrooms. Also, I really like going to the beach but driving through New Jersey really bothers me. I'm a good driver though.
On a totally unrelated note, buy the Epic.
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lmaOFF!!!!!!!

I don't understand what some of you people do with your phones... In my center (well over 1000 people) we rarely hear about any issues with our phones. Sure i've seen laggy Hero's and Moment's and regular ol' computer issues with phones, but have yet to see broken charger ports, cracked screens, leaking light from any phone without the person admitting "yeah I ****ed it up and dropped it"

cachorropedorro said:
I'm debating on buying the EPIC 4g. The super expensive price is already a deterrent for me. Also the fact that it is Samsung is another huge deterrent. I had the Samsung Moment and the charger broke on me 5 times. I had to take it in to Sprint every time and they charged me $50 each time and my device isn't even a year old yet. My charging port on my Moment has broken yet again so I have to charge the battery in an external charger. I'm not rough with my phones either. I take VERY good care of them.
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For a guy who thinks $250 is a "super expensive price" you sure did bend over pretty quickly when sprint charged you $250 grand total for your 5 broken chargers. Although you are most likely just a stupid troll I felt the need to point this out. In the off chance that you're not a troll, please refrain from trying to open cans or peel potatoes with your usb port in the future, kthx.

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I don't understand what some of you people do with your phones... In my center (well over 1000 people) we rarely hear about any issues with our phones. Sure i've seen laggy Hero's and Moment's and regular ol' computer issues with phones, but have yet to see broken charger ports, cracked screens, leaking light from any phone without the person admitting "yeah I ****ed it up and dropped it"
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You gotta admit the dust under the screen and the buttons chipping off on the hero must be very common problems. Every hero owner I know has at least 2 or 3 buttons that are chipped away to the point of being unrecognizable.

richse said:
You gotta admit the dust under the screen and the buttons chipping off on the hero must be very common problems. Every hero owner I know has at least 2 or 3 buttons that are chipped away to the point of being unrecognizable.
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Both problems I had on my hero. But i didnt warrant it as big enough to go and get an exchange.

richse said:
You gotta admit the dust under the screen and the buttons chipping off on the hero must be very common problems. Every hero owner I know has at least 2 or 3 buttons that are chipped away to the point of being unrecognizable.
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My hero buttons are chipped as well, but that's just regular wear and tear... Most of the people on here don't put their phones down so it wears and tears a lot faster than a regular customer. I know plenty of people with a hero who don't have the chipped paint problem as well

I have a feeling the OP is going to a third party store and getting ripped off, because #1, if he had insurance and the phone *was* actually physically damaged, the Moment would cost $100 each time, and it would have to be through the insurance company. If he was buying new chargers, it's $40, but the charger has a 1 year warranty on it.
Frankly, I think this guy is either exaggerating, completely BSing us, or being ripped off by a third party store and for some reason isn't questioning it.
ben7337 said:
That's total BS. I'd say show me where there is any sign of physical damage or stress put on my phone. If they can't show, prove or explain it to you, then they can't very well charge you for it. You need to play hardball with these people. Charging ports break all the time, Pretty much every laptop I know of has the port/cord wear out/break after a couple years, except for mine of course. It just happens. Either way that would suck with the epic then because it has a $100 deductible not a $50 deductible.
You could always print out the policy and explain that you believe the issue to be due to "normal wear and tear" as the contract covers "Mechanical or electrical failure, routine maintenance, and failure from normal wear and tear. File your replacement request within 60 days of incident." I'd call the port just outright breaking through no fault of my own, a mechanical failure due to wear and tear. Then again I guess they could just pull the "act of god" card on you.
"The Program does not cover:
1> Incidental or consequential damages; 2> FAILURES CAUSED BY ACTS OF GOD, fire, flood, explosion,
war, terrorism, strike, embargo, acts of the government, military authority, or the elements"
that makes sense right? God wanted your phone to die because he secretly is out to get you, just like those little green men you hide under the bed from haha. Either way I'd say they just try to charge you wherever they can, and if you stay calm and logically explain your position and belief and know yourself to be in the right, and stand your ground, you can often get away without paying the deductible.
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To the jerks who say I'm lying or exaggerating: it was from the corporate Sprint store on Tyler in Riverside & the "physical damage" was the charging port. I asked them if they could show me the damage & they claimed it was on the inside. $250 that I paid was over the course of 8 months so I didn't feel it as much as having to pay $350 then wait 8 weeks for $100 rebate. I know this is the internet & I expected internet tough guys but this is ridiculous.

Thanks to the polite people who are trying to give me good advice. I'm relatively new to smart phones and the policies regarding phone insurance.

cachorropedorro said:
To the jerks who say I'm lying or exaggerating: it was from the corporate Sprint store on Tyler in Riverside & the "physical damage" was the charging port. I asked them if they could show me the damage & they claimed it was on the inside. $250 that I paid was over the course of 8 months so I didn't feel it as much as having to pay $350 then wait 8 weeks for $100 rebate. I know this is the internet & I expected internet tough guys but this is ridiculous.
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One question then. How did they charge you $50 for the phone issues? I mean entropism brought to attention that the moment is a tier 2 $100 deductible phone. Any repairs would have to charge you $100 not $50. If this is all really true and is what happened as a sprint corporate store then please elaborate on how this happened.

I'm not sure why they only charged me $50. They gave me the option to get a replacement under the warranty for $100 after the third time I brought it in. I was underemployed so I could barely spare the $50.

They actually said "the damage was on the inside" so they wouldn't show it to you? I'm sorry, you're getting completely ripped off. Not to mention, they can't "fix" a charging port. They either replace the device for $119 in store, they cover it as a discretionary repair for free, or they send you to the insurance company for a $100 replacement to be shipped out to you under the physical damage policy of your TEP. Also, keep in mind that it CAN'T be the insurance company in this case, because you can only make 3 claims in a year, not the 5 you're saying happened.
Sorry, something doesn't add up here.
Edit: one more thing that doesn't make sense: There's not even a $50 repair code in the computer. Even if they WANTED to charge you $50, they couldn't. So what the heck is going on?
OP, PM me your phone number, I'd like to get to the bottom of this, with your permission.

entropism said:
They actually said "the damage was on the inside" so they wouldn't show it to you? I'm sorry, you're getting completely ripped off. Not to mention, they can't "fix" a charging port. They either replace the device for $119 in store, they cover it as a discretionary repair for free, or they send you to the insurance company for a $100 replacement to be shipped out to you under the physical damage policy of your TEP. Also, keep in mind that it CAN'T be the insurance company in this case, because you can only make 3 claims in a year, not the 5 you're saying happened.
Sorry, something doesn't add up here.
Edit: one more thing that doesn't make sense: There's not even a $50 repair code in the computer. Even if they WANTED to charge you $50, they couldn't. So what the heck is going on?
OP, PM me your phone number, I'd like to get to the bottom of this, with your permission.
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ok will do, thanks

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Bricking hero to get it replaced

My sprint store won't replace my Hero with dust under the screen >_<
So if I brick it, they will, correct?
Would brick by pulling battery during radio update or something.
Yeah...this is against your contract and such...if they can prove you bricked it they can say no...
This is incredibly unethical and results in higher costs for all of us. I understand you're upset that you have dust under your screen, but intentionally bricking your phone to get a replacement, that cost only gets passed on to everyone else.
I guess that you could argue that the product was defective and they ought to replace it anyway, but a little dust under the screen isn't the end of the world is it? I've got chipped paint on my back button and the case has a small crack where the mini-usb plugs in, should I brick my phone just to fix those minor issues?
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This is incredibly unethical and results in higher costs for all of us. I understand you're upset that you have dust under your screen, but intentionally bricking your phone to get a replacement, that cost only gets passed on to everyone else.
I guess that you could argue that the product was defective and they ought to replace it anyway, but a little dust under the screen isn't the end of the world is it? I've got chipped paint on my back button and the case has a small crack where the mini-usb plugs in, should I brick my phone just to fix those minor issues?
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I'm completely OCD about these things. Once I notice an issue that I didn't cause, it bothers the complete hell out of me.
Just take it to a local repair shop and pay the cost to have it cleaned/screen replaced.
intx said:
I'm completely OCD about these things. Once I notice an issue that I didn't cause, it bothers the complete hell out of me.
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Asides from all of that, as already mentioned this is unethical, and also illegal, you would be committing fraud. This is something in the same vein as insurance fraud. I don't condone such things. There are guides on the internet on how to openup your phone and clean out the dust, probably guides on how to stop it from happening again, look them up and give that a shot if the dust bothers you so much.
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Just take it to a local repair shop and pay the cost to have it cleaned/screen replaced.
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I absolutely refuse to pay extra money to fix a defect in a phone I've only had for a few months.
So take it to a Sprint shop and they'll blow out the dust for free.
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I absolutely refuse to pay extra money to fix a defect in a phone I've only had for a few months.
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Then open ur phone and clean it urself, seriously why do ppl think their entitled to sh*t nowadays? if you can flash ur phone then open the shell and clean it out.
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So take it to a Sprint shop and they'll blow out the dust for free.
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He said he did that and they wouldnt.
How do u guys get dust under the screen? Om. Truck driver and see tje worst conditions ever, from scorching heat to freezing cold with everything in between n my phone still looks bew after a few months and many drops andi cary it in my pocket.
I would have to agree that the best option, (being money free) is to follow a guide to open up your phone and cleaning it yourself unless of course you would be voiding your warranty. However that seems to be not the case here.
to brick it, flash a gsm radio or rom. BUT "if" they catch it you will be charged for a new phone.
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I would have to agree that the best option, (being money free) is to follow a guide to open up your phone and cleaning it yourself unless of course you would be voiding your warranty. However that seems to be not the case here.
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no need to clean it, just call sprint and they will send you another phone. i did and i got a new one a week ago. sprint knows about the dust defect.
Uhmmm. The answer to your question is yes. The bricked hero is going to go into a bucket of hero's at the HTC repair center and probably be recycled. There is no forensics team waiting to check every phone because of HOW it got screwed. I would keep it all stock though so if they do read it they wont see something that hasnt been released yet.
I would say the radio update trick may brick it but it would be best if the phone didnt even power on.
Also, don't feel bad. I am ocd about this stuff too and if I had dust under the screen in one hand, and a company like sprint trying back out of responsibility in the other, I would do the same thing. I could go on and on but its up to you to decide what the "right thing" to do is. And I personally feel that they should cover this stuff, so I have no moral or ethical problems with forcing a company to own up and care about their customers. Just be sure to take it to a sprint store you have never been to before.
FYI- I am a Sprint employee.. and I can tell you that as long as you're going to a COMPANY OWNED Sprint store, they will clean the dust out for you at no charge since you're still in warranty. If they do not, ask for a manager and let them know you don't want to have to email [email protected] (yes this actually works, and his executive escalation office really does read these emails.) If it is a repeated issue, they will eventually replace the phone for you, but it will likely be a reconditioned model (which are just as good as new.) The Hero comes apart very very easily and is very simple to clean. Good luck!
a99tandem said:
FYI- I am a Sprint employee.. and I can tell you that as long as you're going to a COMPANY OWNED Sprint store, they will clean the dust out for you at no charge since you're still in warranty. If they do not, ask for a manager and let them know you don't want to have to email [email protected] (yes this actually works, and his executive escalation office really does read these emails.) If it is a repeated issue, they will eventually replace the phone for you, but it will likely be a reconditioned model (which are just as good as new.) The Hero comes apart very very easily and is very simple to clean. Good luck!
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sprint tried to clean my dust but refused to take apart the hero in fear of breaking it or getting fingerprints on the lcd. the blew out what they could and hooked me up with a new phone, no questions asked.
flexgrip said:
Uhmmm. The answer to your question is yes. The bricked hero is going to go into a bucket of hero's at the HTC repair center and probably be recycled. There is no forensics team waiting to check every phone because of HOW it got screwed. I would keep it all stock though so if they do read it they wont see something that hasnt been released yet.
I would say the radio update trick may brick it but it would be best if the phone didnt even power on.
Also, don't feel bad. I am ocd about this stuff too and if I had dust under the screen in one hand, and a company like sprint trying back out of responsibility in the other, I would do the same thing. I could go on and on but its up to you to decide what the "right thing" to do is. And I personally feel that they should cover this stuff, so I have no moral or ethical problems with forcing a company to own up and care about their customers. Just be sure to take it to a sprint store you have never been to before.
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In other words, your telling him its ok to commit fraud, which is a felony. Its because of people like you, that a cell phone costs $500, pc's cost $1000's, insurance rates are high, health care is so expensive, etc.......Fraud accounts for probably a good majority of the cost of products and services. Imagine what it would be like if everybody actually took responsibility for their actions...Ah well..that'll never happen in this society that thinks it's entitled to everything for free.......
intx said:
My sprint store won't replace my Hero with dust under the screen >_<
So if I brick it, they will, correct?
Would brick by pulling battery during radio update or something.
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Use the OPEN enrollment on sprint to get TEP. (they have special now till the end of the month).. then take it in have them 'diagnose' it, and the worse case you pay 50 deductible to get it replaced, keep TEP until your satisfied.
I can usually get out of the TEP deductible by just going to a repair center and waiting for them to fix it.
Maybe that will work.. I had gone through 8 sprint moguls on TEP and never once had to pay the deductible by doing things this way.
TEP on smartphones is $100 not $50 deductible.
OK, first off... The OP never said he tried to fix it, he said he tried to REPLACE it. For all we know, he didn't go to a corporate repair store, just a sales location.
Second, for Fixxxer: if you went to a repair store and they felt uncomfortable opening up your hero? Change stores IMMEDIATELY. They're trained and paid to open up phones, if they can't do that, they're worthless.
Finally, Kkruse: The deductible is $100, hasn't been $50 for smartphones in over a year. Besides, a deductible should only be used for the following: Water damage, physical damage (I'd rather pay $120 on the spot to get it fixed), theft/loss, fire damage, complete devastation (aka motherboard shattered into more than 2 pieces). If you use the deductible for dust, send me the $100 instead, it'll get more use. Half of your insurance goes to free in store repairs. Guess what dust is covered under?

HTC charging me $75 for the hairline power button crack

Sent to the article author here at XDA this morning along with a few other key addresses.
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Just wanted to follow up with you. HTC has quoted me $75 to repair a missing camera lens cover due to my phone also having the hairline crack you discuss here. Even though they acknowledge the fact that the hairline crack doesn't affect the camera lens in any way shape or form and also acknowledging that the missing lens (it fell out) is also an obvious warranty issue they are demanding I pay their fee. Also conveniently right after they quote you expedited shipping prices (in my case 15 for overnight since I've been fighting them for 2 weeks on this already) and charge your credit card they decide to finally inform you that it'll take about two weeks to do actually do the 10 minute repair for you.
I've attached a picture the RMA folks at HTC sent me of my "negligent damage." Somehow phones with screens that fall off and USB power ports that fall out of the phone are obvious manufacturers defects but actually pushing the power button (OMG HOW DARE I DO THIS) is abuse and will not be tolerated by the nice folks at HTC.
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Dear Mr. Sheehan,
Please see the pictures below that you have requested from your phone. If you have any further questions feel free to contact us at 888-617-1113 between 8am and 8pm EST Monday through Friday.
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3. Ben Sheehan
SN: HT05******* (Evo) – Crack case
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Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for using HTC repair services! Here is a copy of your invoice
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RMA #: 121****
Accepted Repair Actions: Average Repair
Total Charged: $90.00
Date of Charge: 8/24/2010
There is a 90-day warranty on all repairs made. The 90-day warranty applies
only to repeat return cases with the same functional failure symptom and
same parts for replacement.
Please remember that all processed repair charges are non-refundable. The
charge will appear on your credit card statement as Telamon CPE.
Thank you for using HTC! We appreciate your business!
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Wow, that is ****.
Mine is cracked in precisely the same place.
It is B.S. but for some reason both Sprint and HTC refuse to acknowledge the crack as a defect. I think it is ridiculous and deserves a recall. But I don't understand the problem completely. Are they forcing you to pay $90 in order to get your phone back? Or are they just saying that it would cost $90 if you asked them to repair the hairline crack?
I never read the other thread. Does it crack in the middle? Looking at how it is attached (two tiny, flimsy tabs) when I had mine apart...I would expect the tabs to break. It's a crap piece all things considered.
Sent the phone in for a completely unrelated issue. They are saying the crack is evidence that I've abused my phone. I can either pay 75 for them to fix it or 40 for them just to send it back. The additional is shipping.
This company literally has by far the most useless and brain dead phone reps I've ever encountered.
Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.
That is absolutely awful. The cracked power button is a well-known defect of this phone. And the fact that they are nitpicking you is almost a deal-breaker. I'm mad for you.
Twice when I owned a Blackberry I sent my phone in for minor issues. The way it worked is that Sprint overnighted a new phone to me before they looked at mine. I activated the new one so that I wouldn't have to be without phone. Then I sent in the old one. RIM charges something like $75 if they find that the problem doesn't exist and you were just trying to get a shiny new phone. I was never charged the $75. And I was really pushing the policy because there was some tiny flaw in the phone which was why I was returning it.
You shouldn't have to wait this long for a replacement. And you shouldn't have to bicker with them like it's a flea market. We only have these phones for like a year before we move on, and they are wasting your time.
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Should have just exchanged it with Sprint.
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Sprint had no phones and it was a wait for a refurb. Figured this would be a simple in and out repair. My bad thinking HTC has any idea what customer service is.
Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.
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Ugh. I just noticed my one month old never dropped babied Evo has that be crack right where everyone else's is located. I thought you were all being rough on your phones but I stand corrected. HTC will be getting a call from me.
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HTC will not care if they get a call from you. That's the problem.
Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..
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Just had the same issue, plus I lost my WIMAX flashing, so I went through Sprint and told them the button craked, 1 week later i have brand new EVO. NOT refurb. I did flirt with the gal at Sprint though..
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She must have been trying to get you out of the store as quickly as possible. Not a bad strategy.
get your phone back tell them to F themselves at go ***** at sprint, and wait, I'm pretty sure its not going to kill anyones phone to have a crack in it while you wait for a refurb to come in, HTC is going to send you a refurb anyway most likely.
either way with a refurb your stuck without root, the Evo's roll in for Service and repair replacements every few days.
the longer the better, more time to hope froyo gets rooted lol
Wait, is the button itself cracked, or the trim right around it (on the screen side of the top)?
Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.
File a case with the BBB.
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Its just the trim around it. I really don't see it as anything but a cosmetic issue. There is no "flex" to the plastic and feels as solid as a friends that doesn't have the crack.
I can only feel it with my fingernail.
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I have that too. Mine has been apart a few times, so I can't really *****. I only noticed it because I was scrutinizing the button.
Still my favorite phone ever, and will probably be for the next six months.
Yet when there is a thread about another manufacturer everyone is ready to beat HTC off with both hands while they piss on the other builders. They are no better and their build quality is certainly suspect at best. Don't even get me started on the programming mess.
I've filed formal complaints with the BBB (like anyone cares) and the Florida Division of Consumer Services (might care) along with posting on every forum and facebook page I can find related to HTC as well as carpet bombing their fax numbers.
HTC I know you are reading this.
I'm just getting started.
I promise you I will cost you many many times more than the 75 bucks you've gotten from me.
Making it a point to call twice a day to check on my phone.
They told me it would be 5 to 7 days before it ships.
I'll call twice a day every day and waste as much of their time as I possibly can.
Also got another "we don't care about your problems with HTC" chain letter from Sprint today. In case anyone wondered the "[email protected]" address just takes you to more customer "service" reps though you do get a dedicated employee to ignore you. I like when they say they are "calling from the office of Dan Hesse." It makes me giggle. Chances are good they wouldn't know Dan Hesse if he walked up and punched them in the face.

Asurion is terrible

I filed a claim 6 days ago and they have yet to ship my device. I am getting really frustrated with their service and will never get insurance through them again. This is the 6th time I have recieved the below email:
Dear Valued Customer
We understand how important your phone is to you and our goal is to get you reconnected as soon as possible. Unfortunately, due to supply constraints, we will not be able to ship your replacement HTC EVO today.
We are committed to working together with Sprint and other suppliers to procure these devices quickly, and will keep you updated daily on the status of your order.
Rest assured that as soon as these devices are available to Asurion, we will immediately fulfill your order. You can expect an email from us each day with information on your order until it ships; or you can always get the most up-to-date status at anytime by going to www.phoneclaim.com/sprint and tracking your claim online.
We apologize for the delay.
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not their fault. htc evo's are sold out atm in most stores.
last time i checked, they were sold out online as well.
How can you hate a company for not having any stock? It really isn't their fault.
Now the real problem is they are charing for something they cannot provide. If anything, ask them to reimburse a month of insurance.
Sounds a little like fraud to me.
Agreed! I'm in the same boat. The crappy part is..what are we gonna do? They have what we need and complaining to Sprint won't really do much. I do know that reverting back to a windows mobile device is a pain in the @$$!
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not their fault. htc evo's are sold out atm in most stores.
last time i checked, they were sold out online as well.
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Actually it is their fault. I pay for the insurance with the understanding that I would get a device the next day and they are not meeting their end of the deal. That is most certianly their fault.
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Actually it is their fault. I pay for the insurance with the understanding that I would get a device the next day and they are not meeting their end of the deal. That is most certianly their fault.
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I agree with this, they could at least offer a loaner or some other way of compensation,not just be "your SOL till we get more EVO's"
I bet they'll still want that $100 deductible too.
Bielinsk said:
How can you hate a company for not having any stock? It really isn't their fault.
Now the real problem is they are charing for something they cannot provide. If anything, ask them to reimburse a month of insurance.
Sounds a little like fraud to me.
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I work for a production company so I don't want to hear about not having something in stock. If we don't have something in stock you know what happens? We lose customers and money. In our business that is unacceptable and almost NEVER happens. On the RARE occasion that is does happen the customer gets the product for FREE including shipping.
We value our customers and guarantees that we offer. Of course we also keep adequate inventory based on history and forecasts etc. Needless to say my insurance money will not be going to asurion in the future that is for sure.
I'm getting this message:
Thank you for checking the status of your claim. We know how important your device is to you.
We are doing all we can to obtain your device so that we can ship it to you as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, we still do not have your device in stock. It may take 7 to 10 business days from the time you completed your claim until the device is available. We will send you a tracking email as soon as it ships from our warehouse.
Please remember, for the most up-to-date information continue to check back here, on www.phoneclaim.com.
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I miss my Evo. Good thing I have some old Sprint phones laying around and I at least have something to make calls/texts with.
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Hey rugedraw...Yea I get the same thing when I check my claim online. What I posted above is what I get in my email everyday.
When I submitted my claim it said 5-7 days. It better not be 7 - 10 days now. Problem is there isn't anything we can do. I've called everyone and they all tell me to gfy.
agreed, not their fault. I've been quite impressed with them over the years. im sure if you want they will downgrade you and you can get a shift and i don't believe the agreement states you are guaranteed a replacement next day, even though that's how it usually goes.
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They told me 7-10 days off the bat when I called them last Thursday. I agree that they should do a better job of forecasting and keep more stock of the phones, and I also agree that there is nothing we can do but wait. I went to Orlando this weekend to take my kid to the Disney parks, and I missed my phone terribly on that road trip. It was torturous! lol
I've never had to file a claim in my life until I created a Family Plan. I recently had to file a claim for an HTC Evo Shift which was dropped in water by a person on my account during the first 30 days. I called insurance and it took them a week and a half to send a phone.
Reps try to sell you a dream in the store and say you get a phone shipped overnight no waiting whatsoever. I know it's far from the truth but I never imagined it would be that slow. The first claim on the HTC Shift replacement I had to fax an affidavit and my ID which I did promptly.
I think it's ridiculous and they already charge $2 more than AT&T does for the same service. It was a big deal because the user of that phone speaks Spanish and we constantly communicate back and forth since he needs rides sometimes. I hope I never have to go through it again. I'm keeping insurance on my lines for safe measure and hope they fix their way of doing business.
You guys are making me think I should just drop the insurance.
Between the $100 deductable, monthly fee and 10 day turn around it doesn't seem worth it and horror stories of refurbs.
I only ever keep a phone a year and HTC should cover defects for the first year.
I have never lost or dunked a phone. But I have dropped a few, but never bad enough to replace.
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I'm keeping insurance on my lines for safe measure and hope they fix their way of doing business.
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If you keep giving them your money they will have no reason to fix their way of doing business. I know I am going with someone else for my next phone purchase...that is for sure.
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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You guys are making me think I should just drop the insurance.
Between the $100 deductable, monthly fee and 10 day turn around it doesn't seem worth it and horror stories of refurbs.
I only ever keep a phone a year and HTC should cover defects for the first year.
I have never lost or dunked a phone. But I have dropped a few, but never bad enough to replace.
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So, if you dropped your phone in a lake and had to get a replacement, you wouldn't mind paying the full retail price for a replacement instead of paying the deductible? This is why it is called "insurance". It covers what the manufacturer doesn't cover such as accidental breakage, lost or stolen phone, etc... I have it just for the piece of mind that if I do lose it or drop it in a river/lake, that I just pay the $100.00 and get a replacement instead of paying $500+ for a new one.
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Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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cruise350 said:
Gee, didn't any of you people hear about the big earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear power plant failure in Japan. Where do you think most of the chips for the phones come from?? Sony has 4 of their main plants shutdown. No automobiles are getting made. **** ain't going to get shipped if they can't make it. Maybe you should be more careful with you phones. Evos are out of stock everywhere. Its time to stop your whining!
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I feel for the people over there...I really do. But it isn't my problem that Asurion doesn't have phones and I am not a happy customer. Besides we have a plant in Japan that is operational so it is not everywhere that is shut down. I might have a little patience if Asurion came out and actually said this is the problem...as of now I have had no explanation as to why they don't have my device. Just speculation from people like you.
Oh and it is easy to say to be more carefull with my phone. I babied that sucker and made one mistake and now I can't get my phone replaced by the company that I paid to replace it. Just hope you don't make that one little mistake. I will stop whining when I feel I have been made whole for what I have paid for with my hard earned money.
This is what really irritates me about customers. I understand that you bought a $500 device (in your mind, but you paid $200 for it). Yet at the same time, YOU damaged YOUR device, no matter if someone else did it or not.
When you filed the claim, you agreed to the terms. Yes, it says they will ship the new or comparable device to you overnight if supplies are available. You affixed your initials stating that you understand those terms, but decide to whine when it seemingly goes south.
Of course, I'd like to be able to fix every single customers phone and would love it if no one ever had to deal with Asurion again. It's more money in my pocket for the repair/exchange, plus it's a lot less hassle. At the same time, you get what you pay for. You pay the $7 a month for minimal inconvenience so that you won't have to pay full price for a new one.
In my case, the phone slid right out of the holster and onto the sidewalk. It wasn't even a "mistake" in the sense that I didn't drop it myself by being clumsy. Sometimes, **** happens. That's what we have insurance for. Not everyone has a back-up phone they can use like I did and a loaner is the LEAST they can do.
The whole Japan thing is just plain ridiculous. What does Japan's situation have to do with the refurbished phone they are going to send me? Are the phones for Asurion being sent to the eastern coast of Japan to be refurbished and then sent back to US for distribution? No.....they are getting broken phones from people like us, slapping a new screen/LCD on it, and sending it back to people like us. The parts to fix my phone are available on eBay from US sellers. The only people that would be affected by the Japan situation are people buying new phones; not people needing replacements.

Does Asurion think we're stupid...?

I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
Remove the battery
With the battery still out, please key in your 10 digit mobile phone number to your keypad and press the send key three times.
With the battery still out, please press the power button.
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This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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LoL "defective vibrator".
Ummm...you should have just taken it to a corporate sprint store? If you're paying for full TEP, then sprint would have replaced it for free.
Unless of course it stopped working because of water damage...
And BTW, the water detecting litmus paper is under the back housing, you wouldn't see it unless you were taking the phone apart.
EDIT: sorry, nevermind. Just realized you were talking about a replacement you already got from asurion. My bad
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Screw it. .......
brianhuangbh said:
I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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You do realize that 90% of phone owners are nowhere near as educated as people here on xda, right? They probably tell you to do that to distract you so the phone can sit without a battery for a minute or so.
algorhythm said:
You do realize that 90% of phone owners are nowhere near as educated as people here on xda, right? They probably tell you to do that to distract you so the phone can sit without a battery for a minute or so.
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I think that's part of the point the OP is making. Asurion could easily just say, take the battery out of the phone for 'x' seconds/minutes. Then, place the battery.
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I think that's part of the point the OP is making. Asurion could easily just say, take the battery out of the phone for 'x' seconds/minutes. Then, place the battery.
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How often do you think people even restart it when told?
squshy 7 said:
Ummm...you should have just taken it to a corporate sprint store? If you're paying for full TEP, then sprint would have replaced it for free.
Unless of course it stopped working because of water damage...
And BTW, the water detecting litmus paper is under the back housing, you wouldn't see it unless you were taking the phone apart.
EDIT: sorry, nevermind. Just realized you were talking about a replacement you already got from asurion. My bad
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Haha what a joke i have TEP they dont do ****, i had a crack in a screen and the said oh well normally we dont fix cracks we just changed our policies so they gave me someone else's phone, i saw that you see lights under keyboard from an angle, and that the usb slider was broken and bent. then when it got stolen i was given a new phone and that one feels cheap the keyboards feels plastic-e like. And every time i have an issue they give you so much **** its not even funny and its become ridiculous on sprints part.
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How often do you think people even restart it when told?
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I would guess 97-98%?
Lol this is nothing
On the evo forum some guy wanted help cause his kickstand won't stay inside
It was hilarious what they told him to do
take out and put back in battery
Do a factory reset
Buy a new battery
And ton of other stupid stuff
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At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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Gotta love it. I gave my 16GB card from my replacement to my brother for his EVO to upgrade him from his 8GB one.
Love the spare battery. I charged one up, and I carry it with me all the time just in case I can't get to a charger.
Hope they didn't charge you your deductible again, and take a point off your claims. I'm only allowed 3 claims a year. Already had to use one. Sprint lied to me too. Said I had a $50.00 USD deductible, I looked on my card account history...$100.00 USD!
Ahhh the world of outsourcing to stupid ass companies LOL If I have ever had to have a phone replaced I go to a Sprint store. I bought and paid for a new phone and if it needs replaced, I get a new phone. Not some used and possibly abused piece of crap that has been quality checked by someone who probably doesn't know his or her head from their ass.
Its def 100
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Gotta love it. I gave my 16GB card from my replacement to my brother for his EVO to upgrade him from his 8GB one.
Love the spare battery. I charged one up, and I carry it with me all the time just in case I can't get to a charger.
Hope they didn't charge you your deductible again, and take a point off your claims. I'm only allowed 3 claims a year. Already had to use one. Sprint lied to me too. Said I had a $50.00 USD deductible, I looked on my card account history...$100.00 USD!
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I would guess 97-98%?
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Yep.....that sounds ALOT more accurate .....lol
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Haha what a joke i have TEP they dont do ****, i had a crack in a screen and the said oh well normally we dont fix cracks we just changed our policies so they gave me someone else's phone, i saw that you see lights under keyboard from an angle, and that the usb slider was broken and bent. then when it got stolen i was given a new phone and that one feels cheap the keyboards feels plastic-e like. And every time i have an issue they give you so much **** its not even funny and its become ridiculous on sprints part.
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I got a crack in my screen and they fixed it next day.
brianhuangbh said:
I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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LOL - or a keypad for that matter! I can just picture some poor low tech schmuck, phone in one hand, battery in the other, staring at the black screen and scratching their head.
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LOL - or a keypad for that matter! I can just picture some poor low tech schmuck, phone in one hand, battery in the other, staring at the black screen and scratching their head.
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Haha, the worst part is that they don't let you call in from the phone you need support from. They automatically hang up on you after the dreadful 10 minute process. I ended up calling them off google voice...on my phone.
Edge-1337 said:
Gotta love it. I gave my 16GB card from my replacement to my brother for his EVO to upgrade him from his 8GB one.
Love the spare battery. I charged one up, and I carry it with me all the time just in case I can't get to a charger.
Hope they didn't charge you your deductible again, and take a point off your claims. I'm only allowed 3 claims a year. Already had to use one. Sprint lied to me too. Said I had a $50.00 USD deductible, I looked on my card account history...$100.00 USD!
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Hmm. I talked to the Sprint rep and they offered to pay the deductible.
The other phone they sent me (my second replacement phone in a week) had issues with the touch buttons on the front. There seems to be a problem with their refurbishing process for this phone...
Well, as long as I'm scoring free overnight shipments of new phones to unbox with free batteries, 16GB memory cards, and chargers, I'm cool.
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I would guess 97-98%?
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ROFL!
I just spit my soda everywhere.
Couldn't help it, that post and 25 years in IT support, and I just couldn't help it
IMO, if you hit 40%, you are having a miracle day
LOL
TEP has been great for me, replaced one with a broken usb for free, & one that got lost for $100
All pretty much hassle free
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I wonder how many people in this thread that bash Asurion know that they are the insurance provider for all of the top 4 carriers...
There's only a few situations where Asurion even needs to be involved:
Crack in the screen that is longer than 1 inch (yes the policy did recently change, shattered screens are not covered in the stores anymore)
Water damage or other physical damage (run over with car, chewed up by dog, etc)
Lost or Stolen (Use the protection app or another locator app to try and track it down and save a deductible, and maybe expel some aggression towards the schmuck that took your phone.)
Anything else should go to a tech store for them to fix or replace it.
And, honestly, $100 is not bad for a $500 phone to be replaced next day.
The refurb process is a little strange; some refurbs I have received from Asurion or Sprint repair stores have been great with no issues, and some have been back to the store in less than a couple weeks with issues, and I've had quite a few Sprint devices since 2002.
Sprint has a "30 Day Bounce" policy meaning if you get a refurb that has a legitimate issue (nothing software related) then they need to send it back to Asurion or wherever to have them re-refurb it and get you another refurb.
I don't see why people are so afraid of refurbs, they are just as likely to have issues as the new phones, but are put through more testing than the new phones. My refurb Epic is holding up great so far compared to the new one, but maybe I just got lucky.
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And, honestly, $100 is not bad for a $500 phone to be replaced next day.
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its acually more like 196 dollars. dont forget your monthly payment as well as the deductible.
you can buy an epic on ebay for less than 200 dollars also.

One Drop - Phone go Boom

So I don't treat my phones roughly, so I don't put cases on them, that and the X feels great in my hand....not anymore. Its screen is completely shattered after one drop, luckily I could use Touchless controls to call ATT to get insurance...there goes 200 more dollars after I paid 270 for it 2 weeks ago. And since it's my second claim on insurance I lose the right to pay for insurance (I know right? The first claim was because the USB port on my inspire died but whatever) for a year.
Time to buy a case. Be careful guys. let this be a word of warning.
(Here's hoping they at least let me Motomake again but I doubt it.)
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So I don't treat my phones roughly, so I don't put cases on them, that and the X feels great in my hand....not anymore. Its screen is completely shattered after one drop, luckily I could use Touchless controls to call ATT to get insurance...there goes 200 more dollars after I paid 270 for it 2 weeks ago. And since it's my second claim on insurance I lose the right to pay for insurance (I know right? The first claim was because the USB port on my inspire died but whatever) for a year.
Time to buy a case. Be careful guys. let this be a word of warning.
(Here's hoping they at least let me Motomake again but I doubt it.)
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pictures?
Ouch I was lucky and saw the good folks spreading the Verizon discount code so I only dropped 140 on this, my favorite phone evar. I also don't use cases. Sorry to hear about your screen! Let us know what happens
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Sorry to hear about your x!. Check out squaretrade.com next time for insurance. Their pricing is cheaper per month and best of all, NO refurbs! If they can't fix your phone in 5 days, they cut you a check for a new one. They're all I've been using since I got my ps3 a few years ago and was worried about it breaking
How did you drop it? Ive been looking for drop test videos for our phone but no luck
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How did you drop it? Ive been looking for drop test videos for our phone but no luck
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Bug landed as I was walking with my phone out, thought it was a yellow jacket, jumped, phone didn't jump with me.
I tried calling Motorola as well and it was the same price and a longer turnaround, I'll take the not paying for insurance for a year to get a phone asap, although it might just be a black or white one, I was able to get a case and protector for the X out of ATT but that's about it.
Picture attached.
And insurance says "You give us your 200 dollars and you LIKE YOUR BLACK PHONE"
Screw ATT. I sent a tweet to Moto/Motosupport with the picture too, of course there's no reply.
Keep pushing at MotorolaSupport, also try emailing them at supportforums [at] motorola [dot] com ... the guy who controls that twitter monitors that email.
Holy sweet handgrenades. I've now spent 8+ hours on the phone dealing with ATT/Motorola/Mobile Insurance, everyone wants 200 dollars to fix a phone that broke after one fall 13 days into ownership. Motorola has pushed me to sign paperwork to file an insurance claim then told me "Oh no you didn't have to do that" when it's their defective device. ATT is now on my side, but if Moto doesn't figure out their lives before the insurance claims clears....that'll be /fun/
I've been escalated to either level 2 or level 3 Motomaker support to see what they can do, although they've already heard my patented "voice of satan" telling them they're full of it.
ShamanicEnzan said:
Holy sweet handgrenades. I've now spent 8+ hours on the phone dealing with ATT/Motorola/Mobile Insurance, everyone wants 200 dollars to fix a phone that broke after one fall 13 days into ownership. Motorola has pushed me to sign paperwork to file an insurance claim then told me "Oh no you didn't have to do that" when it's their defective device. ATT is now on my side, but if Moto doesn't figure out their lives before the insurance claims clears....that'll be /fun/
I've been escalated to either level 2 or level 3 Motomaker support to see what they can do, although they've already heard my patented "voice of satan" telling them they're full of it.
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i'm struggling to understand how "its their defective device" when you dropped it.
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i'm struggling to understand how "its their defective device" when you dropped it.
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I agree how is it it defective if it broke when it was dropped by the user.....?
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Dropped my phone off the top bunk of a bunk bed. Fell flat on the screen; not a scratch on it. I know use an otter box case, just in case
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It's that sense of entitlement people have these days. Blame someone else for their own error. You dropped it dude, The defect is not in the phone.
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I fail to see how dropping a phone is anyone else's fault.
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I fail to see how dropping a phone is anyone else's fault.
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I agree, Unfortunately if the screen is cracked from a fall/drop, it doesn't matter if it happens 13 days after or the minute you walk out of the store.
sleepyguy007 said:
i'm struggling to understand how "its their defective device" when you dropped it.
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I fail to see how dropping a phone is anyone else's fault.
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(This preword was written after the following post was completed, if any one feels I'm attacking them I apologize and I try to explain why I feel dropping it shouldn't have caused the extensive amount of damage. I've been told 4 different things by 5 different people within ATT/Motorola and the one thing I despise most is terrible service, this has gone from being a phone issue to being a support issue in my eyes.)
Because anything you pay for should not be this weak. It fell three feet. If it had just a surface crack, I'd be fine and suck it up and deal. This phone is destroyed. The screen is cracked just like the old iPhones, the phone casing is rattled enough that the volume buttons have slid into the casing of the phone a bit.
Should I have had a case on it? You know what I'll give you that point, it may have cushioned the blow and prevented the issue, but do you really believe something you pay money for should require extra protection to survive a fall taken during normal usage? That kind of thinking gives manufacturers the ability to put out inferior devices build wise, which to most of us here sounds like something that should come with the territory, but it shouldn't.
Nobody should pay 200+ dollars for a device, use it like any normal person, and have it break like this 13 days into owning it, if I was an extreme sports person (I'm 6'4 and uncoordinated so no) or if this was about a year and a half (even 6 months) into owning the device but this isn't the result of mishandling. It screams horrible build quality
In 10+ years of owning mobile devices, the only thing I've done to my phones is bend one USB plug out of shape. Besides keeping the device on a memory foam pillow, I've treated my Moto X extremely well.
I will accept that I dropped it. I will accept there was no case on the device. I will not accept that one mixture of those two facts will completely wreck a phone. Should Motorola/ATT have questions? I think a few are acceptable, but they should also stand by their customers who trust them not only with what is becoming a bigger part of their lives, their mobile service, but with their hard earned cash.
Maybe I'm idealistic and believe too much in the rights of the consumer but "You shouldn't have dropped it" just doesn't cut in my book when the damage is this extensive.
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Because anything you pay for should not be this weak. It fell three feet. If it had just a surface crack, I'd be fine and suck it up and deal. This phone is destroyed. The screen is cracked just like the old iPhones, the phone casing is rattled enough that the volume buttons have slid into the casing of the phone a bit.
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People will say that sort of thing till something similar happens to them. Good luck man; hope you can figure something out. And next time, case, case, case!
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ShamanicEnzan said:
Holy sweet handgrenades. I've now spent 8+ hours on the phone dealing with ATT/Motorola/Mobile Insurance, everyone wants 200 dollars to fix a phone that broke after one fall 13 days into ownership. Motorola has pushed me to sign paperwork to file an insurance claim then told me "Oh no you didn't have to do that" when it's their defective device. ATT is now on my side, but if Moto doesn't figure out their lives before the insurance claims clears....that'll be /fun/
I've been escalated to either level 2 or level 3 Motomaker support to see what they can do, although they've already heard my patented "voice of satan" telling them they're full of it.
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Don't drop your phone. The fact that it cracked up is not a reflection of the Moto X quality. It's the fact that "chance favors the prepared mind" as somone once said. Every time I switch to a new phone, there's always a thread like this one. Somone drops it and it blows up. That's all on you unfortunately. It sucks, we're all here for you, but there's no other alternative and that's why they sell insurance in the first place.
I got lucky many times with my Razr. My wife was lucky many times with her Iphone 4, until one day it dropped "JUST RIGHT" and el-cracko. But, completely her fault for dropping the phone.
If you rear end someone with your new car, you can't just claim it should have gotten damaged for such a light "tap".
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(This preword was written after the following post was completed, if any one feels I'm attacking them I apologize and I try to explain why I feel dropping it shouldn't have caused the extensive amount of damage. I've been told 4 different things by 5 different people within ATT/Motorola and the one thing I despise most is terrible service, this has gone from being a phone issue to being a support issue in my eyes.)
Because anything you pay for should not be this weak. It fell three feet. If it had just a surface crack, I'd be fine and suck it up and deal. This phone is destroyed. The screen is cracked just like the old iPhones, the phone casing is rattled enough that the volume buttons have slid into the casing of the phone a bit.
Should I have had a case on it? You know what I'll give you that point, it may have cushioned the blow and prevented the issue, but do you really believe something you pay money for should require extra protection to survive a fall taken during normal usage? That kind of thinking gives manufacturers the ability to put out inferior devices build wise, which to most of us here sounds like something that should come with the territory, but it shouldn't.
Nobody should pay 200+ dollars for a device, use it like any normal person, and have it break like this 13 days into owning it, if I was an extreme sports person (I'm 6'4 and uncoordinated so no) or if this was about a year and a half (even 6 months) into owning the device but this isn't the result of mishandling. It screams horrible build quality
In 10+ years of owning mobile devices, the only thing I've done to my phones is bend one USB plug out of shape. Besides keeping the device on a memory foam pillow, I've treated my Moto X extremely well.
I will accept that I dropped it. I will accept there was no case on the device. I will not accept that one mixture of those two facts will completely wreck a phone. Should Motorola/ATT have questions? I think a few are acceptable, but they should also stand by their customers who trust them not only with what is becoming a bigger part of their lives, their mobile service, but with their hard earned cash.
Maybe I'm idealistic and believe too much in the rights of the consumer but "You shouldn't have dropped it" just doesn't cut in my book when the damage is this extensive.
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It's glass. You cannot predict how it will break. I have seen devices fall off of a roof onto concrete and come away fine. I have also seen a phone fall from 2-3 feet onto carpet and the screen shattered from top to bottom. It has everything to do with how and what part of the device the impact occurs and nothing to do with build quality. Glass is glass and it breaks, period. I really feel bad for you and don't want to come across as an ass but when you are dealing with screens made of glass you can't blame build quality on a drop.

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