Does Asurion think we're stupid...? - Epic 4G General

I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
Remove the battery
With the battery still out, please key in your 10 digit mobile phone number to your keypad and press the send key three times.
With the battery still out, please press the power button.
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This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up

brianhuangbh said:
I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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LoL "defective vibrator".

Ummm...you should have just taken it to a corporate sprint store? If you're paying for full TEP, then sprint would have replaced it for free.
Unless of course it stopped working because of water damage...
And BTW, the water detecting litmus paper is under the back housing, you wouldn't see it unless you were taking the phone apart.
EDIT: sorry, nevermind. Just realized you were talking about a replacement you already got from asurion. My bad
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Screw it. .......

brianhuangbh said:
I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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You do realize that 90% of phone owners are nowhere near as educated as people here on xda, right? They probably tell you to do that to distract you so the phone can sit without a battery for a minute or so.

algorhythm said:
You do realize that 90% of phone owners are nowhere near as educated as people here on xda, right? They probably tell you to do that to distract you so the phone can sit without a battery for a minute or so.
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I think that's part of the point the OP is making. Asurion could easily just say, take the battery out of the phone for 'x' seconds/minutes. Then, place the battery.

running_the_dream said:
I think that's part of the point the OP is making. Asurion could easily just say, take the battery out of the phone for 'x' seconds/minutes. Then, place the battery.
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How often do you think people even restart it when told?

squshy 7 said:
Ummm...you should have just taken it to a corporate sprint store? If you're paying for full TEP, then sprint would have replaced it for free.
Unless of course it stopped working because of water damage...
And BTW, the water detecting litmus paper is under the back housing, you wouldn't see it unless you were taking the phone apart.
EDIT: sorry, nevermind. Just realized you were talking about a replacement you already got from asurion. My bad
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Haha what a joke i have TEP they dont do ****, i had a crack in a screen and the said oh well normally we dont fix cracks we just changed our policies so they gave me someone else's phone, i saw that you see lights under keyboard from an angle, and that the usb slider was broken and bent. then when it got stolen i was given a new phone and that one feels cheap the keyboards feels plastic-e like. And every time i have an issue they give you so much **** its not even funny and its become ridiculous on sprints part.

algorhythm said:
How often do you think people even restart it when told?
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I would guess 97-98%?

Lol this is nothing
On the evo forum some guy wanted help cause his kickstand won't stay inside
It was hilarious what they told him to do
take out and put back in battery
Do a factory reset
Buy a new battery
And ton of other stupid stuff
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brianhuangbh said:
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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Gotta love it. I gave my 16GB card from my replacement to my brother for his EVO to upgrade him from his 8GB one.
Love the spare battery. I charged one up, and I carry it with me all the time just in case I can't get to a charger.
Hope they didn't charge you your deductible again, and take a point off your claims. I'm only allowed 3 claims a year. Already had to use one. Sprint lied to me too. Said I had a $50.00 USD deductible, I looked on my card account history...$100.00 USD!

Ahhh the world of outsourcing to stupid ass companies LOL If I have ever had to have a phone replaced I go to a Sprint store. I bought and paid for a new phone and if it needs replaced, I get a new phone. Not some used and possibly abused piece of crap that has been quality checked by someone who probably doesn't know his or her head from their ass.

Its def 100
Edge-1337 said:
Gotta love it. I gave my 16GB card from my replacement to my brother for his EVO to upgrade him from his 8GB one.
Love the spare battery. I charged one up, and I carry it with me all the time just in case I can't get to a charger.
Hope they didn't charge you your deductible again, and take a point off your claims. I'm only allowed 3 claims a year. Already had to use one. Sprint lied to me too. Said I had a $50.00 USD deductible, I looked on my card account history...$100.00 USD!
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running_the_dream said:
I would guess 97-98%?
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Yep.....that sounds ALOT more accurate .....lol
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Haha what a joke i have TEP they dont do ****, i had a crack in a screen and the said oh well normally we dont fix cracks we just changed our policies so they gave me someone else's phone, i saw that you see lights under keyboard from an angle, and that the usb slider was broken and bent. then when it got stolen i was given a new phone and that one feels cheap the keyboards feels plastic-e like. And every time i have an issue they give you so much **** its not even funny and its become ridiculous on sprints part.
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I got a crack in my screen and they fixed it next day.

brianhuangbh said:
I called Asurion today about a defective vibrator in my replacement Epic 4G and this is an AUTOMATED message. Meaning that it says this for every call it gets.
This doesn't seem like it would have an effect on any phone, much less a phone with no send key.
All this was part of an automated message including the part where they check the water damage sticker that isn't present on the phone...
Well, at least I ended up with another replacement phone my way, even if it was after they hung up on me about 4 times because I was calling from the phone I had issues of.
At least I get a free Micro SD card and an OEM battery every time they mess up
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LOL - or a keypad for that matter! I can just picture some poor low tech schmuck, phone in one hand, battery in the other, staring at the black screen and scratching their head.

bjhill2112 said:
LOL - or a keypad for that matter! I can just picture some poor low tech schmuck, phone in one hand, battery in the other, staring at the black screen and scratching their head.
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Haha, the worst part is that they don't let you call in from the phone you need support from. They automatically hang up on you after the dreadful 10 minute process. I ended up calling them off google voice...on my phone.
Edge-1337 said:
Gotta love it. I gave my 16GB card from my replacement to my brother for his EVO to upgrade him from his 8GB one.
Love the spare battery. I charged one up, and I carry it with me all the time just in case I can't get to a charger.
Hope they didn't charge you your deductible again, and take a point off your claims. I'm only allowed 3 claims a year. Already had to use one. Sprint lied to me too. Said I had a $50.00 USD deductible, I looked on my card account history...$100.00 USD!
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Hmm. I talked to the Sprint rep and they offered to pay the deductible.
The other phone they sent me (my second replacement phone in a week) had issues with the touch buttons on the front. There seems to be a problem with their refurbishing process for this phone...
Well, as long as I'm scoring free overnight shipments of new phones to unbox with free batteries, 16GB memory cards, and chargers, I'm cool.

running_the_dream said:
I would guess 97-98%?
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ROFL!
I just spit my soda everywhere.
Couldn't help it, that post and 25 years in IT support, and I just couldn't help it
IMO, if you hit 40%, you are having a miracle day
LOL
TEP has been great for me, replaced one with a broken usb for free, & one that got lost for $100
All pretty much hassle free
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I wonder how many people in this thread that bash Asurion know that they are the insurance provider for all of the top 4 carriers...
There's only a few situations where Asurion even needs to be involved:
Crack in the screen that is longer than 1 inch (yes the policy did recently change, shattered screens are not covered in the stores anymore)
Water damage or other physical damage (run over with car, chewed up by dog, etc)
Lost or Stolen (Use the protection app or another locator app to try and track it down and save a deductible, and maybe expel some aggression towards the schmuck that took your phone.)
Anything else should go to a tech store for them to fix or replace it.
And, honestly, $100 is not bad for a $500 phone to be replaced next day.
The refurb process is a little strange; some refurbs I have received from Asurion or Sprint repair stores have been great with no issues, and some have been back to the store in less than a couple weeks with issues, and I've had quite a few Sprint devices since 2002.
Sprint has a "30 Day Bounce" policy meaning if you get a refurb that has a legitimate issue (nothing software related) then they need to send it back to Asurion or wherever to have them re-refurb it and get you another refurb.
I don't see why people are so afraid of refurbs, they are just as likely to have issues as the new phones, but are put through more testing than the new phones. My refurb Epic is holding up great so far compared to the new one, but maybe I just got lucky.

monkeyracer said:
And, honestly, $100 is not bad for a $500 phone to be replaced next day.
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its acually more like 196 dollars. dont forget your monthly payment as well as the deductible.
you can buy an epic on ebay for less than 200 dollars also.

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I have a few questions...

I'm debating on buying the EPIC 4g. The super expensive price is already a deterrent for me. Also the fact that it is Samsung is another huge deterrent. I had the Samsung Moment and the charger broke on me 5 times. I had to take it in to Sprint every time and they charged me $50 each time and my device isn't even a year old yet. My charging port on my Moment has broken yet again so I have to charge the battery in an external charger. I'm not rough with my phones either. I take VERY good care of them.
There isn't any question in this post.
Hey, I have a few questions too. Penguins are neat. I really like pizza, but I hate mushrooms. Also, I really like going to the beach but driving through New Jersey really bothers me. I'm a good driver though.
On a totally unrelated note, buy the Epic.
cachorropedorro said:
I'm debating on buying the EPIC 4g. The super expensive price is already a deterrent for me. Also the fact that it is Samsung is another huge deterrent. I had the Samsung Moment and the charger broke on me 5 times. I had to take it in to Sprint every time and they charged me $50 each time and my device isn't even a year old yet. My charging port on my Moment has broken yet again so I have to charge the battery in an external charger. I'm not rough with my phones either. I take VERY good care of them.
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1) It will likely be $200 or less even for upgraders a few weeks after release, assuming it doesn't sell out. Therefore if you wait and see what people experience with it and wait for some devlopment on it, then get the phone, you will be set
2) If something happens like a charging port breaking, that should be covered free under the warranty. If they charged you for it, then it's just because they can. Be smart and buy the $7/month insurance for your phone, then they'd probably handle issues like that for free, I would hope. Or you could always do the warranty through samsung if it came down to it. Also if you are waiting a few weeks before trying to get the phone, this gives you time to see if there seem to be any immediate build quality issues, from charging port trouble to other issues.
Guys, just because the OP didn't specifically ask questions doesn't mean there were obvious questions/concerns in there. Don't be dense/rude.
Thanks for not being rude. I did have the warranty. Sprint said that the charging port breaking was "physical damage," that's why I had to pay $50 each time.
cachorropedorro said:
Thanks for not being rude. I did have the warranty. Sprint said that the charging port breaking was "physical damage," that's why I had to pay $50 each time.
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That's total BS. I'd say show me where there is any sign of physical damage or stress put on my phone. If they can't show, prove or explain it to you, then they can't very well charge you for it. You need to play hardball with these people. Charging ports break all the time, Pretty much every laptop I know of has the port/cord wear out/break after a couple years, except for mine of course. It just happens. Either way that would suck with the epic then because it has a $100 deductible not a $50 deductible.
You could always print out the policy and explain that you believe the issue to be due to "normal wear and tear" as the contract covers "Mechanical or electrical failure, routine maintenance, and failure from normal wear and tear. File your replacement request within 60 days of incident." I'd call the port just outright breaking through no fault of my own, a mechanical failure due to wear and tear. Then again I guess they could just pull the "act of god" card on you.
"The Program does not cover:
1> Incidental or consequential damages; 2> FAILURES CAUSED BY ACTS OF GOD, fire, flood, explosion,
war, terrorism, strike, embargo, acts of the government, military authority, or the elements"
that makes sense right? God wanted your phone to die because he secretly is out to get you, just like those little green men you hide under the bed from haha. Either way I'd say they just try to charge you wherever they can, and if you stay calm and logically explain your position and belief and know yourself to be in the right, and stand your ground, you can often get away without paying the deductible.
hydralisk said:
Hey, I have a few questions too. Penguins are neat. I really like pizza, but I hate mushrooms. Also, I really like going to the beach but driving through New Jersey really bothers me. I'm a good driver though.
On a totally unrelated note, buy the Epic.
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lmaOFF!!!!!!!
I don't understand what some of you people do with your phones... In my center (well over 1000 people) we rarely hear about any issues with our phones. Sure i've seen laggy Hero's and Moment's and regular ol' computer issues with phones, but have yet to see broken charger ports, cracked screens, leaking light from any phone without the person admitting "yeah I ****ed it up and dropped it"
cachorropedorro said:
I'm debating on buying the EPIC 4g. The super expensive price is already a deterrent for me. Also the fact that it is Samsung is another huge deterrent. I had the Samsung Moment and the charger broke on me 5 times. I had to take it in to Sprint every time and they charged me $50 each time and my device isn't even a year old yet. My charging port on my Moment has broken yet again so I have to charge the battery in an external charger. I'm not rough with my phones either. I take VERY good care of them.
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For a guy who thinks $250 is a "super expensive price" you sure did bend over pretty quickly when sprint charged you $250 grand total for your 5 broken chargers. Although you are most likely just a stupid troll I felt the need to point this out. In the off chance that you're not a troll, please refrain from trying to open cans or peel potatoes with your usb port in the future, kthx.
DirtyShroomz said:
I don't understand what some of you people do with your phones... In my center (well over 1000 people) we rarely hear about any issues with our phones. Sure i've seen laggy Hero's and Moment's and regular ol' computer issues with phones, but have yet to see broken charger ports, cracked screens, leaking light from any phone without the person admitting "yeah I ****ed it up and dropped it"
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You gotta admit the dust under the screen and the buttons chipping off on the hero must be very common problems. Every hero owner I know has at least 2 or 3 buttons that are chipped away to the point of being unrecognizable.
richse said:
You gotta admit the dust under the screen and the buttons chipping off on the hero must be very common problems. Every hero owner I know has at least 2 or 3 buttons that are chipped away to the point of being unrecognizable.
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Both problems I had on my hero. But i didnt warrant it as big enough to go and get an exchange.
richse said:
You gotta admit the dust under the screen and the buttons chipping off on the hero must be very common problems. Every hero owner I know has at least 2 or 3 buttons that are chipped away to the point of being unrecognizable.
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My hero buttons are chipped as well, but that's just regular wear and tear... Most of the people on here don't put their phones down so it wears and tears a lot faster than a regular customer. I know plenty of people with a hero who don't have the chipped paint problem as well
I have a feeling the OP is going to a third party store and getting ripped off, because #1, if he had insurance and the phone *was* actually physically damaged, the Moment would cost $100 each time, and it would have to be through the insurance company. If he was buying new chargers, it's $40, but the charger has a 1 year warranty on it.
Frankly, I think this guy is either exaggerating, completely BSing us, or being ripped off by a third party store and for some reason isn't questioning it.
ben7337 said:
That's total BS. I'd say show me where there is any sign of physical damage or stress put on my phone. If they can't show, prove or explain it to you, then they can't very well charge you for it. You need to play hardball with these people. Charging ports break all the time, Pretty much every laptop I know of has the port/cord wear out/break after a couple years, except for mine of course. It just happens. Either way that would suck with the epic then because it has a $100 deductible not a $50 deductible.
You could always print out the policy and explain that you believe the issue to be due to "normal wear and tear" as the contract covers "Mechanical or electrical failure, routine maintenance, and failure from normal wear and tear. File your replacement request within 60 days of incident." I'd call the port just outright breaking through no fault of my own, a mechanical failure due to wear and tear. Then again I guess they could just pull the "act of god" card on you.
"The Program does not cover:
1> Incidental or consequential damages; 2> FAILURES CAUSED BY ACTS OF GOD, fire, flood, explosion,
war, terrorism, strike, embargo, acts of the government, military authority, or the elements"
that makes sense right? God wanted your phone to die because he secretly is out to get you, just like those little green men you hide under the bed from haha. Either way I'd say they just try to charge you wherever they can, and if you stay calm and logically explain your position and belief and know yourself to be in the right, and stand your ground, you can often get away without paying the deductible.
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To the jerks who say I'm lying or exaggerating: it was from the corporate Sprint store on Tyler in Riverside & the "physical damage" was the charging port. I asked them if they could show me the damage & they claimed it was on the inside. $250 that I paid was over the course of 8 months so I didn't feel it as much as having to pay $350 then wait 8 weeks for $100 rebate. I know this is the internet & I expected internet tough guys but this is ridiculous.
Thanks to the polite people who are trying to give me good advice. I'm relatively new to smart phones and the policies regarding phone insurance.
cachorropedorro said:
To the jerks who say I'm lying or exaggerating: it was from the corporate Sprint store on Tyler in Riverside & the "physical damage" was the charging port. I asked them if they could show me the damage & they claimed it was on the inside. $250 that I paid was over the course of 8 months so I didn't feel it as much as having to pay $350 then wait 8 weeks for $100 rebate. I know this is the internet & I expected internet tough guys but this is ridiculous.
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One question then. How did they charge you $50 for the phone issues? I mean entropism brought to attention that the moment is a tier 2 $100 deductible phone. Any repairs would have to charge you $100 not $50. If this is all really true and is what happened as a sprint corporate store then please elaborate on how this happened.
I'm not sure why they only charged me $50. They gave me the option to get a replacement under the warranty for $100 after the third time I brought it in. I was underemployed so I could barely spare the $50.
They actually said "the damage was on the inside" so they wouldn't show it to you? I'm sorry, you're getting completely ripped off. Not to mention, they can't "fix" a charging port. They either replace the device for $119 in store, they cover it as a discretionary repair for free, or they send you to the insurance company for a $100 replacement to be shipped out to you under the physical damage policy of your TEP. Also, keep in mind that it CAN'T be the insurance company in this case, because you can only make 3 claims in a year, not the 5 you're saying happened.
Sorry, something doesn't add up here.
Edit: one more thing that doesn't make sense: There's not even a $50 repair code in the computer. Even if they WANTED to charge you $50, they couldn't. So what the heck is going on?
OP, PM me your phone number, I'd like to get to the bottom of this, with your permission.
entropism said:
They actually said "the damage was on the inside" so they wouldn't show it to you? I'm sorry, you're getting completely ripped off. Not to mention, they can't "fix" a charging port. They either replace the device for $119 in store, they cover it as a discretionary repair for free, or they send you to the insurance company for a $100 replacement to be shipped out to you under the physical damage policy of your TEP. Also, keep in mind that it CAN'T be the insurance company in this case, because you can only make 3 claims in a year, not the 5 you're saying happened.
Sorry, something doesn't add up here.
Edit: one more thing that doesn't make sense: There's not even a $50 repair code in the computer. Even if they WANTED to charge you $50, they couldn't. So what the heck is going on?
OP, PM me your phone number, I'd like to get to the bottom of this, with your permission.
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ok will do, thanks

Don't stress about warranty...

Thought I would share my experiences with you guys to hopefully settle some stomachs.
I got my first incredible the day they were released. About a month after i got it, it started randomly rebooting and shutting off. It would run great for days, then have a fit of reboots. I used it like that for quite a while until root was released. I rooted it, then shortly after installed some of the leaked roms. I hoped that updating everything would help with the reboots.. nope.
Anyway, long story short. I called VZW and they sent me a replacement device. I sent back the first phone with S-off, rooted, radio updated, and running a cryogen mod.
As soon as I got the replacement phone, I re-flashed it with all the goodies. Last week I ended up bricking it because my kid ran by and pulled it off the USB cable during a flash of sky raider. It would boot into Hboot, but i nothing i did made it work right again. Anyway, I called that day and said "my phone doesnt turn on anymore" they sent me another replacement. I sent that phone back with s-off and radio 2.15 and not booting past the silver HTC screen.
I was wondering wtf, i thought for sure i would get a call or a letter or SOMETHING. i have a buddy that works at the VZW warehouse so I asked him. He said all they do is open the box, verify that the numbers on the phone match the numbers on the return order and move on. They get 1,000s of phones a day from warranty exchange. Nobody "checks them". Hes just a lowly worker but I think hes right.
I have had VZW for just over 10 years now, and have utilized their "exchange 3 times per year" service on almost every phone I have had. I have sent in phones that I broke the screens on, by saying "my phone doesn't work anymore". I have sent in phones i dropped in the water by saying "my phone doesn't work anymore".
The people in the warehouse who check the phones numbers have NO IDEA why you sent it in, or what the tech told you, or why they told you to take it back.
bottom line.. don't stress about it. and take advantage of VZW's service of letting you exchange your phone 3 times per year.
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Just wanted to add... They give you 10 days to send the phone back, that first incredible i sent back, i kept for over a month. They even posted an equipment charge to my account for not sending it back, but that took them a month. I just called 611 and said "oh gee wow.. i forgot to send that back" lady told me no problem and sent me out a new box and i mailed it back. 3 days later they credited my account the $500+ equipment charge. That was the phone with s-off, radio update, and running cryogen. Hardly stock lol. and honestly.. it was a intermittent reboot problem. what would they do anyway? turn it on and use it for a week to see when it shutdown? lol
That 3x a year deal, is that with one of their insurance plans? I elected to for-go that when I bought my Incredible so I don't know what the deal will be if any one of my phones boink... just glad I don't have a kid to fudge things up anyway... although I do have a girlfriend that likes to seemingly randomly unplug my electronics because "our power bill is sooo high!". Yes, I know honey, it's called summer + A/C usage x.x
DeeBG said:
That 3x a year deal, is that with one of their insurance plans? I elected to for-go that when I bought my Incredible so I don't know what the deal will be if any one of my phones boink... just glad I don't have a kid to fudge things up anyway... although I do have a girlfriend that likes to seemingly randomly unplug my electronics because "our power bill is sooo high!". Yes, I know honey, it's called summer + A/C usage x.x
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no, that is just the manufacture warranty. they will exchange it 3 times during the 1 year manufacturer warranty. on the 4th time, they will either send you a brand new phone in the box, or upgrade you to another phone. your choice
msticlaru said:
no, that is just the manufacture warranty. they will exchange it 3 times during the 1 year manufacturer warranty. on the 4th time, they will either send you a brand new phone in the box, or upgrade you to another phone. your choice
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It's how I got my Incredible. Upgraded for free from D Eris. I got a big scratch on my screen somehow. Need a refurb soon. Haha.
I'm not sure if the masses should know any of this.
This is exactly how I got the Incredible from the Moto Droid. 3 times returned (the 3rd time not even for an unfixable problem *oopsie* ) and then they said they would send me an Incredible. I love VZW tech support
Hmmm, that Droid incredible hd sounds pretty cool lol when's it coming out again? Jk jk lol
Edit: this is good to know if something really does go bad with my phone. But I would never take advantage of it.
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MODS- please delete this thread to prevent little kids from being stupid and causing VZW to crack down on this. Thanks!
anothen said:
MODS- please delete this thread to prevent little kids from being stupid and causing VZW to crack down on this. Thanks!
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agree...
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Yeah, I'm sure this all-important xda thread would be the first inkling VZW has ever had that some people game their replacement policy (sshhh!)
better shut it down RIGHT AWAY before the sky falls on us.
I guess there always has to be someone to make a wise guy remark. You are correct about 'not being the first'. However, XDA may be the first that hundreds of thousands of people look at.
If it's so easy to return a phone 3x a year why bother with insurance? I'm paying $8 a month to Asurion.
Why would this thread need to be deleted. If Verizon does crack down good. People with legit problems with then hopefully be helped even better.
marcmarshall said:
If it's so easy to return a phone 3x a year why bother with insurance? I'm paying $8 a month to Asurion.
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1 in 4 people with 2 year contracts could make a full replacement purchase price claim and they'd still have a nice profit, assuming they had to pay full price MSRP for replacements. Wonder how much they'd make by using refurbs as replacements, rejecting claims, etc.
I may be in the wrong business.
Also, delete the thread. That is the best way to restrict information flow.
marcmarshall said:
If it's so easy to return a phone 3x a year why bother with insurance? I'm paying $8 a month to Asurion.
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Because warranty doesn't cover getting it wet, replacement of lost/stolen, cracked screen, break due to drop or abuse, etc.
Hey, my comment from yesterday got deleted! No fair, it doesn't count for my replies posted either...
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Agreed Its not about VZW finding out its about people abusing it.
actually its not 3x a year its 3x in a period of thirty or sixty days.
that's how i got my dare from a Venus. The Venus always had something wrong and the tech himself told me well if they replace 3 in a month then you can get another phone.
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I guess there always has to be someone to make a wise guy remark. You are correct about 'not being the first'. However, XDA may be the first that hundreds of thousands of people look at.
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Just like there always has to be a Chicken Little or three, I guess. Would you rather I put a broomstick up my ass and found some piously earnest way to express my sincere contempt for those who run around asking for this thread deleted, that information suppressed, mods help us! etc, just to save us from ourselves? OK, then:
Attempting to mold community behavior by restricting the flow of information is a really dumb idea, especially on a hacker forum. And preserving a loophole that lets a knowledgeable few commit warranty fraud by concealing the means & opportunity from the other "hundreds of thousands of people" who read XDA is elitist, self-serving, and morally reprehensible all at once.
Fortunately for the scruple-challenged, my sense is that VZW is well aware of the potential, but just doesn't care--or at least is unwilling to invest in the kind of training and verification overhead that would allow them to examine each claim for legitimacy. So by all means: keep returning those bricked phones for an upgrade, but do stop hiding the Machiavellian ingenuity of your methods under a bushel--let it shine forth unto the ends of the earth! Free replacement phones for all!
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If it's so easy to return a phone 3x a year why bother with insurance? I'm paying $8 a month to Asurion.
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Well, I suppose it's terribly old-fashioned to suggest that your conscience might trouble you if you went that route... But ethics aside, if you lost the phone outright, or smashed it to tiny bits, you could still need that insurance. The VZW workers might be inattentive and uncaring, but I'm guessing even they might notice an empty box, or a phone that arrives in a sandwich bag with no one fragment larger than 30 mesh!

Mother's EVO went through the washer today - What do you think is the best bet?

Hey XDA Members,
So, my mom washed her EVO today, which broke the glass and screen; all it does it vibrates when you turn it on, but no lights/screen/sound after that, so basically dead.
No warranty w/ sprint - after the AMEX accidental warranty.
Options I've come up with are...
-Buy one on clist for $325
-Buy a new one for $400 - $450
-Cancel a line at 16 months left - $160, and the other 2 lines monthly price would go up.
-Add a forth line + buy new EVO on that
-Buy a blackberry on clist - $140ish
What's your ideas?
Thanks!
No warrenty.... What about insurance?
Put it in the dryer...
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No warrenty.... What about insurance?
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That's what I meant by warranty/insurance. I told her to get it, but didn't want to pay for it, and it's $7 a month, then $100 for a referb phone.
If you want something like a blackberry curve you should be able to get one for a lot less than $140! not bad phones if you don't mind a super slow almost unusable web browser. Great physical keyboards (and cleanable trackballs They should be like half that price though!
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Pay the price.
wrb123 said:
If you want something like a blackberry curve you should be able to get one for a lot less than $140! not bad phones if you don't mind a super slow almost unusable web browser. Great physical keyboards (and cleanable trackballs They should be like half that price though!
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Yeah, she has one for work, so knows how to use it, but the one at work is a current bb curve w/ sprint, but the 3g doesn't even work.
"blackberry curve 8330" 33 new and used on amazon starting at ~$45.
and I was exaggerating a little about the browser, mobile pages and non-javascript sites load fine.
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So, my mom washed her EVO today, which broke the glass and screen; all it does it vibrates when you turn it on, but no lights/screen/sound after that, so basically dead.
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Well if it just vibrates your Mom might still want it.
lol jk, sorry.
Really I would look for a cheap EVO in craigslist, they can be found cheap if it's a heavily used one but still working good.
Found a brand-new epic on craigslist for $300; that's better than the sole EVO on there for $325.
I would just get another one if you could afford it. 16 months is a long time to go without an Evo. But of course if money is a problem, then black berries really aren't all that bad.
does she really need the power of an evo????
what about something cheaper.. like a HERO..
yes it sucks.. but if you root it..
put on a good ROM... they have gingerbread!!!
it is a good phone for $100 on craigslist
or a LG Optimus S.. on craigslist..
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I would just get another one if you could afford it. 16 months is a long time to go without an Evo. But of course if money is a problem, then black berries really aren't all that bad.
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Well, she probably will. Chase has a credit card offer....$200 cash back after a first purchase, so signed up for that to buy a new phone and get it for $250, got approved instantly, but takes 2 weeks to get the card by mail. :|
Get a $20 phone til then, voice and text, and then appreciate the new phone even more after it can finally be purchased
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Dan330 said:
does she really need the power of an evo????
what about something cheaper.. like a HERO..
yes it sucks.. but if you root it..
put on a good ROM... they have gingerbread!!!
it is a good phone for $100 on craigslist
or a LG Optimus S.. on craigslist..
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Thought of this, but then stuck paying $10 extra a month for 4G...not that she used it in the first place. Probably needs the 4.3 inch screen or a slide out keyboard to text...so that's why I was thinking the blackberry, not the hero.
Did you try the rice trick? Put a cup of dry rice into a Ziplock bag. Take the battery out of the phone and place both into the bag. Seal it and leave it for 24 hours. It should pull all the moisture out. Pull it out, put it back together and then charge it.
Edit: Sorry... just read the part about the glass being broken. Well, I'll leave this trick posted here in case someone needs it in the future.
^^^ it is too late to try to the rice trick.. if you turn on the phone and it beeps at you!
and of course the broken screen
How long has she had it? If she had it for less than 30 days, could always call Sprint and add the insurance. You would have to wait like a week or so to put in the claim. Or you could call Sprint anyway and see if they could add the insurance anyway even if it is beyond 30 days. They might work with you. Or call Sprint and see if they have any refurbs for temp then add the insurance so if she gets another Evo, and something happens, she is covered. Insurance is always priority. I would never not add insurance to the line that contains a 600.00 phone. For example, I have had Sprint for a long time and have always had insurance on both of my lines. My Evo was stolen along with the charger and my 8GB card was in it. I immediatly called Sprint, reported my phone as stolen so they could restrict the phone to basically being a brick, they then transferred me to asurian where I paid the 100.00 deductible and they understood my phone was stolen. So instead of sending me a refurb and the card and charger, they sent me a brand new Evo in the OEM box and everything like charger and manuals were nice and wrapped. Brand spanking new. If I didn't have the insurance I would have been in the same boat as your Mom. But I would call Sprint and see what they can work out for you. But ADD insurance to the line.
How bout getting your mom a cheap $10 pre-paid phone since she isn't smart enough to NOT wash a $300 phone, especially when she's too cheap to have insurance on it...
Hrshycro said:
Hey XDA Members,
So, my mom washed her EVO today, which broke the glass and screen; all it does it vibrates when you turn it on, but no lights/screen/sound after that, so basically dead.
No warranty w/ sprint - after the AMEX accidental warranty.
Options I've come up with are...
-Buy one on clist for $325
-Buy a new one for $400 - $450
-Cancel a line at 16 months left - $160, and the other 2 lines monthly price would go up.
-Add a forth line + buy new EVO on that
-Buy a blackberry on clist - $140ish
What's your ideas?
Thanks!
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Take the phone to a Sprint store and hope that some one there takes mercy upon you and helps you get some kind of deal. If you're met with a no, keep trying, don't loose your cool and be prepared to spend an hour or two. Run options like canceling the current EVO line, then getting a new line with the reduced EVO price. Take your mother with you, get her a cane with a white tip.

Don't use best buy's geeksquad black tie protection if you need a battery replaced

Alright well I was happy to see that my insurance plan (I got it from my dad) included the free battery replacement and since mine gets terrible drain from my phone I figured alright cool no problem, I will just goto bestbuy today and go get my replacement, WRONG! Turns out, you wait 45 minutes in line just to be told "You need to call this number *writes it down* and then your battery should be at your house between 4-7 days. Are you kidding me? Why the hell can't you guys carry battery replacements and give me a battery when I need it? Also just a side note of bad luck: I called and their systems are down so they can't place my order today. All in all: best buy is overpriced garbage with an incompetant support team with a plan that makes less sense than baby talk.
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Alright well I was happy to see that my insurance plan (I got it from my dad) included the free battery replacement and since mine gets terrible drain from my phone I figured alright cool no problem, I will just goto bestbuy today and go get my replacement, WRONG! Turns out, you wait 45 minutes in line just to be told "You need to call this number *writes it down* and then your battery should be at your house between 4-7 days. Are you kidding me? Why the hell can't you guys carry battery replacements and give me a battery when I need it? Also just a side note of bad luck: I called and their systems are down so they can't place my order today. All in all: best buy is overpriced garbage with an incompetant support team with a plan that makes less sense than baby talk.
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So they don't carry it in the store and want you to call the number to get a free battery replacement..... Are you like 13 just call the number and get your battery, just be glad that the service is even offered.
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As far as I know, Best Buy nor any other insurance offerings guarantee that they will just trade you a new battery immediately in-store.
Giving you a number and mailing you a new battery after calling them sounds like SOP.
MultiDev said:
As far as I know, Best Buy nor any other insurance offerings guarantee that they will just trade you a new battery immediately in-store.
Giving you a number and mailing you a new battery after calling them sounds like SOP.
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Sprint will replace
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So they don't carry it in the store and want you to call the number to get a free battery replacement..... Are you like 13 just call the number and get your battery, just be glad that the service is even offered.
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That doesn't make any sense.
The best busy insurance is useless.
You're better off using the warranty because either way you're going to be without a phone for multiple weeks.
Meh BBY rarely carries batteries for devices in store... they might have the extended capacity ones but I have never seen them carry OEM batteries so yeah... this sounds pretty standard
It's the fact that I was annoyed at the situation that I have to call the number myself and all that instead of just going to sprint to replace my battery. It's annoying and I was already having a bad day. I had to vent. :3
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It's the fact that I was annoyed at the situation that I have to call the number myself and all that instead of just going to sprint to replace my battery. It's annoying and I was already having a bad day. I had to vent. :3
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I probably would have gotten on my phone and called my local best but store and asked how the replacement battery program worked before driving out there and waiting 45 minutes in line. If I am going somewhere to purchase anything that could be out of stock (expecially electronics), I will always call and see if they have it in stock. Going to a store and expecting for them to have something that you want/need without checking first is not their fault.
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I probably would have gotten on my phone and called my local best but store and asked how the replacement battery program worked before driving out there and waiting 45 minutes in line. If I am going somewhere to purchase anything that could be out of stock (expecially electronics), I will always call and see if they have it in stock. Going to a store and expecting for them to have something that you want/need without checking first is not their fault.
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Furthermore, if you actually took the time to read and/or inquire about the battery replacements when you signed up, you would know that this is standard procedure.
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bjb_nyj101 said:
you would know that this is standard procedure.
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And you don't think that supports the OP's advice of not using Best Buy's black tie protection?
You're better off just using the HTC warranty.
mattykinsx said:
And you don't think that supports the OP's advice of not using Best Buy's black tie protection?
You're better off just using the HTC warranty.
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Try and send Htc a cracked screen and see what they say
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HSadler93 said:
Try and send Htc a cracked screen and see what they say
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I was referring to warranty concerns, not physical damage concerns.
That's what TEP is for.
Battery replaced on site, phone replaced within a day if service cannot be performed, deductible only if you damage the phone.
A lot better than paying $10 a month and having to wait a week [or up to three] to have a phone. [Which is just what the HTC warranty is like]
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Sprint will replace
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From the warehouse, which usually takes a day or two.
Sunsparc said:
From the warehouse, which usually takes a day or two.
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Sprint replaces batteries on site
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And you don't think that supports the OP's advice of not using Best Buy's black tie protection?
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I never said that the OP wasn't right for advocating against black tie. I'm replying to this:
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I figured alright cool no problem, I will just goto bestbuy today and go get my replacement, WRONG! Turns out, you wait 45 minutes in line just to be told "You need to call this number *writes it down* and then your battery should be at your house between 4-7 days. Are you kidding me? Why the hell can't you guys carry battery replacements and give me a battery when I need it?
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Not just this black tie insurance, but everything you sign up for in general; You should know what services you are signing up & paying for. Period. There should never be any surprises. *Even if* you "assume" that you'll be able to get something fixed/replaced/etc, it seems like common sense to call in before hand to make sure, rather than wast an hour of your time.
Honestly you could have stopped at "Don't use Best Buys Geek Squad"
The in house people are just plain dumb. Not naive, not just under-trained, not just lacking in the skill set to do the job but actual dumb.
I say this with every ounce of honesty I can in hopes that you guys for once believe something on the internet posted by someone you don't know.......
I actually got into an extended conversation with a person about a new computer and as soon as I saw he was just reading the description card I asked about the flux capacitor issues. He proceeded to ask his superior about it because he "wanted to be honest and find my answer instead of making up stuff". His superior proceeded to LOOK IT UP!!! until a listening customer popped in with "you only have issues if you have a hard drive that spins faster than 88mph". We laughed, they picked up on it, I left.
The GS employees are dumb. I don't use the above story as my only basis, that's an extreme example. The phone people are just reading a prompt, the inhouse people are just trained to go to the computer and "look it up". They have no real working knowledge of anything they are selling.
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Alright well I was happy to see that my insurance plan (I got it from my dad) included the free battery replacement and since mine gets terrible drain from my phone I figured alright cool no problem, I will just goto bestbuy today and go get my replacement, WRONG! Turns out, you wait 45 minutes in line just to be told "You need to call this number *writes it down* and then your battery should be at your house between 4-7 days. Are you kidding me? Why the hell can't you guys carry battery replacements and give me a battery when I need it? Also just a side note of bad luck: I called and their systems are down so they can't place my order today. All in all: best buy is overpriced garbage with an incompetant support team with a plan that makes less sense than baby talk.
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Don't use "Best Buy" at all.
blizzard1017 said:
Honestly you could have stopped at "Don't use Best Buys Geek Squad"
The in house people are just plain dumb. Not naive, not just under-trained, not just lacking in the skill set to do the job but actual dumb.
I say this with every ounce of honesty I can in hopes that you guys for once believe something on the internet posted by someone you don't know.......
I actually got into an extended conversation with a person about a new computer and as soon as I saw he was just reading the description card I asked about the flux capacitor issues. He proceeded to ask his superior about it because he "wanted to be honest and find my answer instead of making up stuff". His superior proceeded to LOOK IT UP!!! until a listening customer popped in with "you only have issues if you have a hard drive that spins faster than 88mph". We laughed, they picked up on it, I left.
The GS employees are dumb. I don't use the above story as my only basis, that's an extreme example. The phone people are just reading a prompt, the inhouse people are just trained to go to the computer and "look it up". They have no real working knowledge of anything they are selling.
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The sad thing is, I wanted to work with geeksquad last year but then I found out the severe lack of knowledge in that group in general and I was appaled I have an extensive knowledge of windows and linux as well as the ability to remove just about every peice of malware by hand and I hate people that just scan with different tools that will eventually pick up something. Guess what best buy does to remove malware? Throw scans at it. I would much rather do all of it by hand so I figured I can do freelance virus removal for the time being and it has worked out wonderfully. I'm gonna try to convince my dad to just get me the sprint TEP plan and go from there. Atleast then I can find someone intelligent to fix my issues that I can't fix myself.
fenixjn said:
Meh BBY rarely carries batteries for devices in store... they might have the extended capacity ones but I have never seen them carry OEM batteries so yeah... this sounds pretty standard
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yeah, don't think I ever see batteries at Best Buy....you gotta read the small print when buying all that extra stuff from stores....especially when it involves them replacing something for free....

Dropped phone facedown...what are my options?

So I dropped my phone at Whataburger today and it fell facedown and the whole screen has like hairline cracks (but no bumps whatsoever). I want to exchange it because of my damn OCD, it just bothers me. Is there a way to take it to T-Mobile and say that something is defective and get a free replacement since I have warrenty? I was thinking of saying that I was putting on an Otterbox case, and when I tried to take it off, the phone screen cracked...or something along those lines. I was googling and I read that I had to pay up to $199 to replace the screen from Samsung directly. Any other options? I'm a broke college student barley making it and I don't want to make my mom pay for it. Right now I'm on the phone with my mom, and I keep on hearing the screen crack, and I'm afraid the screen is just gonna shatter at any moment, or while it's in my pocket
Bro if you are a college student what are you doing with an 800$ phone m8? Lol
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You are asking for advice on how to con T-Mobile, yet clearly admitting to being at fault. Sorry, my advice is to suck it up. Slap a screen protector on and learn from your mistakes.
nano303 said:
Bro if you are a college student what are you doing with an 800$ phone m8? Lol
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I had been saving up to buy a better, faster, and more useful phone that would help out in my studies
What is wrong with you, dude? Do you really think T-Mobile would even buy your Otterbox excuse? Stop trying to scam people and own up to your own mistakes.
I don't think they will cover for it even if you have warranty since it's physical damage. If you have insurance then that will be a different story. If I were you, I'll just find a local store to try and replace it. If not, probably have to suck it up with a protector.
Sorry this happened to you, mistakes happens.
I'm also a college student so I know the struggles.
Good luck!
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Next semester, take an ethics class
Leelouster said:
So I dropped my phone at Whataburger today and it fell facedown and the whole screen has like hairline cracks (but no bumps whatsoever). I want to exchange it because of my damn OCD, it just bothers me. Is there a way to take it to T-Mobile and say that something is defective and get a free replacement since I have warrenty? I was thinking of saying that I was putting on an Otterbox case, and when I tried to take it off, the phone screen cracked...or something along those lines. I was googling and I read that I had to pay up to $199 to replace the screen from Samsung directly. Any other options? I'm a broke college student barley making it and I don't want to make my mom pay for it. Right now I'm on the phone with my mom, and I keep on hearing the screen crack, and I'm afraid the screen is just gonna shatter at any moment, or while it's in my pocket
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How long have you had the phone for? If it has been less than 30 days, you can still purchase squaretrade. If you used an amex card to purchase it in the past 90 days, you could apply for purchase protection through them.
Also FYI, the cost of screen replacement from Samsung is $269.xx. Source: I cracked my screen too . Thankfully I already had squaretrade, so my out of pocket was $99.
I wanted a faster to phone to improve my studies....said no one ever.
Give me a break....you can get a part-time job and earn some cash and buy a new phone or repair it.
Filing an insurance claim would probably be the cheapest, legitimate way of getting it fixed.
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I don't think they will cover for it even if you have warranty since it's physical damage. If you have insurance then that will be a different story. If I were you, I'll just find a local store to try and replace it. If not, probably have to suck it up with a protector.
Sorry this happened to you, mistakes happens.
I'm also a college student so I know the struggles.
Good luck!
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Damn...well how would I go about getting the insurance? Would it have to be through Samsung?? Yeah I'm going to go to the store tomorrow and try to get it replaced or see what can be done. Thank you, it sucks that such an expensive phone would get it's screen broken easily :/
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How long have you had the phone for? If it has been less than 30 days, you can still purchase squaretrade. If you used an amex card to purchase it in the past 90 days, you could apply for purchase protection through them.
Also FYI, the cost of screen replacement from Samsung is $269.xx. Source: I cracked my screen too . Thankfully I already had squaretrade, so my out of pocket was $99.
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Thank you for actually typing out a reply that will help me out unlike some others here. I've had the phone since launch day. I purchased it in the store through credit card, so I doubt I can do that. So basically I'd have to get the screen replaced? I can't tell T-Mobile that my phone is faulty? (Because legitametly, I've been having problems with the speaker, and the phone has been messing up quite a bit way before I dropped it). I think they should supply a refurbished phone, no? That is way to expensive to get the screen replaced by the way...but it's worth it. I was thinking of getting squaretrade, but I didn't think that this would happen to my phone since I had a case on it.
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Filing an insurance claim would probably be the cheapest, legitimate way of getting it fixed.
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How would I go about doing that? I've never done that, as usually I just take it to T-Mobile whenever I have problems with my phone.
Clear nail polish if they really are micro cracks it should fill them in and not brake the phone. If the cracks are all the way through or huge it won't help as much though. Also it's only 200 to get the screen fixed. Go get a bar tending job you will make that money in one night. Grow up don't ask your mom for money, or try to rip off tmobile
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Leelouster said:
Damn...well how would I go about getting the insurance? Would it have to be through Samsung?? Yeah I'm going to go to the store tomorrow and try to get it replaced or see what can be done. Thank you, it sucks that such an expensive phone would get it's screen broken easily :/
Thank you for actually typing out a reply that will help me out unlike some others here. I've had the phone since launch day. I purchased it in the store through credit card, so I doubt I can do that. So basically I'd have to get the screen replaced? I can't tell T-Mobile that my phone is faulty? (Because legitametly, I've been having problems with the speaker, and the phone has been messing up quite a bit way before I dropped it). I think they should supply a refurbished phone, no? That is way to expensive to get the screen replaced by the way...but it's worth it. I was thinking of getting squaretrade, but I didn't think that this would happen to my phone since I had a case on it.
How would I go about doing that? I've never done that, as usually I just take it to T-Mobile whenever I have problems with my phone.
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If you have insurance on your phone, you have to contact the insurance company.
I'm on the original Jump program, so it's part of Jump, for me. There's usually a deductible though.
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Cracked screen through insurance is 175, girlfriend dropped hers. If you didn't have the cracks, you could of called t-mobile and did a exchange where they would send you a refurb first and return your phone after receiving the refurb. If you this with your current phone, they will find out and charge your account so don't try it.
My girlfriend did the same, her crappy Caseology case did nothing but look pretty.
T-Mobile insurance the deductible is 175 for the S7E.
Leelouster said:
Thank you for actually typing out a reply that will help me out unlike some others here. I've had the phone since launch day. I purchased it in the store through credit card, so I doubt I can do that. So basically I'd have to get the screen replaced? I can't tell T-Mobile that my phone is faulty? (Because legitametly, I've been having problems with the speaker, and the phone has been messing up quite a bit way before I dropped it). I think they should supply a refurbished phone, no? That is way to expensive to get the screen replaced by the way...but it's worth it. I was thinking of getting squaretrade, but I didn't think that this would happen to my phone since I had a case on it.
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I don't know if the store would side with you on that (claiming that there were other problems before the screen cracked). Even then, perhaps they would try fixing those other problems without addressing the cracked screen. Bottom line, a cracked screen is not covered under the standard Samsung warranty so you'll have to pay to get that fixed either way. Good luck :good:
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WE NEED PICTURES!
WE NEED PICTURES!!
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