WARNING- Android mayhem - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

as some of you may know there was a brief thread here by a man called bazgee trying to promote his android build over at androidmayhem site.
whilst in the chatroom at the site a massive argument errupted and guess what guys? these sons of bi***es have been lying to us the whole time. there not creating any hd2 builds, and the ones they were going to upload have all been copies. this is very long to explain what happened but in short just stay away from this site it will aid you in no way of testing android builds. they are all filthy liers and i hope yall take my warning seriously
sorry to anyone like me who where just looking to test some more android builds and were fooled by these scammers
peace

does mattc actually post over on there?
i see his 1.6b build posted under the name of mattc, is that him? if so im not so sure its a scam.
maybe you could provide irc logs? i am quite interested to see.

adiemc2010 said:
does mattc actually post over on there?
i see his 1.6b build posted under the name of mattc, is that him? if so im not so sure its a scam.
maybe you could provide irc logs? i am quite interested to see.
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no thats not a scam, its not really a scam there just liers im not sure what there trying to prove. basically there saying there making builds but they all just confessed there not at all and it was a whole stupid waste of time, but i would claim it as a scam as they promised false work and got donations before they released anything
dude i would if i checked ur comment ten seconds earlier i just exited it, however heres the link to a conversation between two of the apparent 'builders' its long but u will see all becomes clear...there all fags
http://www.androidmayhem.com/showthread.php?p=626#post626

i entered the irc chat room to get some proof if anyone else needs it:
Var the more that report his hosting company will get it shut down
02:06 Var kingpin 0 site was a scam
02:06 Var their are no builds
02:06 wdfowty So this is all truth and you aren't just ****in around right?
02:06 Var he got you're donations
02:06 kingpin god dam it
02:06 Ebonwumon wdfowty: I wouldn't believe ****.
02:06 kingpin i saw this on xda :/
02:07 Var and stold others files
02:07 Var Ebonwumon
02:07 Var everyone already knows
02:07 kingpin didnt believe it #;9

ok ok i read that but imho bazgee seems to be quite knowledgable on the subject and he didnt say in that log he wasnt releasing any builds. and he was posting on darkstones thread here as a beta tester.
plus they got mattc posting builds there so maybe bazgee is still concidering releasing something.
i hate to speculate anyway so just gonna wait and see ill keep an eye on android mayhem maybe even post a few. i just hope if they were serious they can move on from this and get back on track would be nice to see some more new devs/builds on the scene.
edit: var is "nikole" aka billy lol i wouldnt believe anything that guy says right now tbh probably sour about being outed

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ok ok i read that but imho bazgee seems to be quite knowledgable on the subject and he didnt say in that log he wasnt releasing any builds. and he was posting on darkstones thread here as a beta tester.
plus they got mattc posting builds there so maybe bazgee is still concidering releasing something.
i hate to speculate anyway so just gonna wait and see ill keep an eye on android mayhem maybe even post a few. i just hope if they were serious they can move on from this and get back on track would be nice to see some more new devs/builds on the scene.
edit: var is "nikole" aka billy lol i wouldnt believe anything that guy says right now tbh probably sour about being outed
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dude go on the site yourself and see enter the irc chat everyone there knows it a scam im not flippin lying
he is very knowledgable but tht doesnt change the fact he wasnt releasing a build when he said he was, check the sitr yourself then come back to me, im just warning everyone so if u wanna join that site and find out for yourself please do

mda4man said:
dude go on the site yourself and see enter the irc chat everyone there knows it a scam im not flippin lying
he is very knowledgable but tht doesnt change the fact he wasnt releasing a build when he said he was, check the sitr yourself then come back to me, im just warning everyone so if u wanna join that site and find out for yourself please do
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i used to use irc a long time ago, cant be arsed with it now. as i said ill wait and see what happens. just saying i have no reason to doubt bazgee as yet.

I have screenshots of conversation with the site owner. It IS a little "censorable" so i'll bleep put the naughty words and post em.
From the best of my knowledge, he kanged mattc and darkstone's builds to build up suspense, then asked for membership and donations.
I cannot confirm anymore as I am banned (finally lol). I was the nexus one mod, as well as Ebonwuman, and he took both of our mod powers away for ME speaking the truth.

I think this thread says it all: http://www.androidmayhem.com/showthread.php?t=183
Nikole is in fact a HE. These guys just want to side with a pretend female. CanA mod please close this thread as its not needed in android hd2 development. Anyone wanting to beleive this Nikole guy go right ahead.

HostGator's a comin for ya BazGee
It's kinda pointless, but we just want people to stop getting duped. I don't take sides, I just keep it real.

bazgee said:
I think this thread says it all: http://www.androidmayhem.com/showthread.php?t=183
Nikole is in fact a HE. These guys just want to side with a pretend female. CanA mod please close this thread as its not needed in android hd2 development. Anyone wanting to beleive this Nikole guy go right ahead.
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explain this sir, why did u promote a build then take it over to android mayhem, and when everyone went over we find out there is no build huh?
mate your a crook who just copied work and made false promises, your a turd dude, douchebag

the name of the site lives up to its name eh? lol
in all seriousness though, are you actually planning on releasing a build? not trying to push you into an exact date or anything.

Hey bazgee, you should post 'your" roms here. I'm sure there are other suckers that are willing to cough up some donations
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the name of the site lives up to its name eh? lol
in all seriousness though, are you actually planning on releasing a build? not trying to push you into an exact date or anything.
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He never will, at least with his own work. Keep pushing him for an eta.

wdfowty said:
Hey bazgee, you should post 'your" roms here. I'm sure there are other suckers that are willing to cough up some donations
He never will, at least with his own work. Keep pushing him for an eta.
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yer stop douching whens the eta bazgee

My ROM will be uploaded both here and android mayhem when its ready I have been told to wait before releasing it. Most of you will eat your words when I do release but seriously I will do what mattc recommended in the first place and ignore the idiots.
To anyone who cares read the chatlog on the thread I posted earlier it explains it was this guy promising you guys a ROM. anyone with half a braincell would see that lol.
Good Day and have fun!

bazgee said:
My ROM will be uploaded both here and android mayhem when its ready I have been told to wait before releasing it. Most of you will eat your words when I do release but seriously I will do what mattc recommended in the first place and ignore the idiots.
To anyone who cares read the chatlog on the thread I posted earlier it explains it was this guy promising you guys a ROM. anyone with half a braincell would see that lol.
Good Day and have fun!
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Nicole posted stuff about you on irc chat log you both sound like total douche bags. You better come through with this if you don't give all your donations back

bazgee said:
My ROM will be uploaded both here and android mayhem when its ready I have been told to wait before releasing it. Most of you will eat your words when I do release but seriously I will do what mattc recommended in the first place and ignore the idiots.
To anyone who cares read the chatlog on the thread I posted earlier it explains it was this guy promising you guys a ROM. anyone with half a braincell would see that lol.
Good Day and have fun!
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i did read the chat log, the whole damn thing lol and you are correct. but apparently i missed something on irc chat, still waiting to see what that something is..... where are these screenshots?

I'm holding further judgement, and the screenies, until these chat logs are released by Sticks. I will not accept it from anyone else, as both sides seem to have it twisted.
I'll be waiting

Lol bazgee said yesterday on irc mayhem that someone of xda had phone and told him he threatened to kill if his build was not good.
And that's why he did not publish his build
And so also it has to remove xda thread

this is why the internet needs a parental lock

Related

Android 2.1 to be release friday 4/16?

http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/2652-sprint-htc-hero-android-2-1-release
Uggggh, not again.
More rumors. There is no basis for this report. I got a tweet that simply says they are still on course for 2Q2010. That is it.
VinceOB said:
Uggggh, not again.
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and again and again and again...etc.............
4 other threads citing this same blog. heres one just to refresh our memory.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662671
reading is fundamental, also searching too.
Lets count how many more times this stupid crap is going to be reposted and how many times it gets removed by the mods. LOL
screw the official 2.1
dbldown768 said:
http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/2652-sprint-htc-hero-android-2-1-release
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Does anyone here even care ANYMORE? It will prolly be a downgrade
compared to what we have now anyway with a bunch of flaws
just like our 2.1's in the beginning. Look what the devs have made
for us and APPRECIATE it. Start a thread after you have compiled
AOSP or find someone who has....I THINK MORE THAN A FEW OF
US WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THAT POST........this isnt
twitter, and most of here arent morons. So if YOU know it, you
can probably bet WE do too...FYI
Be warned.
People here do not like these rumors showing up on this forum.
They will have it removed.
I know. Happened to me.
Yet when the date was March 26th, no one had them removed.
This forum needs one of those setups where when you starting creating a thread the forum searches for keywords and gives you options of threads that have already been created before creating the thread. Ive seen it done before. They should implement something like that since no one likes to or knows how to use the search feature.
Can we please stop posting on speculated dates and wait until this *actually * comes to fruition?
Waste of time to even post on this.
you spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round right round.....
I was bored so I e-mailed them and told them people may believe it more if they used a picture of a "Sprint HTC Hero"
obelisk79 said:
you spin me right round baby right round, like a record baby right round right round.....
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lol classic!
who cares!
we got 2.1, the only good that can come of this is the brillant dev's here taking the crap sprint dishes out and making something truly awesome. Which is really hard to imagine since DC's current rom is pretty dam on the money, at least for me anyway.
I propose that the next person to post that link be banned.
Ya I would only care from one of these if it was an OFFICAL date from sprint. and then I would just blow it off anyway and continue using my Rom like nothing happened
jonnythan said:
I propose that the next person to post that link be banned.
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I second that
kyouko said:
I second that
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Third freaking 10char
I think the post is accurate, it does say HTC Hero roll out April 16th FOR Europe though “Nordic/Greek/RUS/UKR/SA” regions. They say it will trickle down to Sprint which will most likely be April 30th which sounds pretty close.
I could've sworn this was a discussion forum about the development of the CDMA Hero. Weird.
I must be lost because these people don't want to know any of the news (which does often include rumors).

Ummmmm?

why is every single thread of mine locked......................
not one PM or response to a PM
**MOD EDIT**
See this thread for details; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7027241&postcount=19
//MOD EDIT
arent you under investigation...
http://androidspin.com/2010/07/01/cant-we-all-just-get-along/
i guess
IBTL!!! Lol, saw on Cyanogen's twitter mentioning that all the files in one of your "Roms" checksummed the same as someone else's release... any truth to that?
jmhalder said:
IBTL!!! Lol, saw on Cyanogen's twitter mentioning that all the files in one of your "Roms" checksummed the same as someone else's release... any truth to that?
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thats what i heard
jmhalder said:
IBTL!!! Lol, saw on Cyanogen's twitter mentioning that all the files in one of your "Roms" checksummed the same as someone else's release... any truth to that?
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thats what we call an exaggeration
care to elaborate? what remained the same?
kingklick said:
thats what we call an exaggeration
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so its not true??
meh....just for fun
WRONG SECTION!!! READ THE RULES!!!
...lol...
garok89 said:
meh....just for fun
WRONG SECTION!!! READ THE RULES!!!
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LOL....
garok89 said:
meh....just for fun
WRONG SECTION!!! READ THE RULES!!!
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well im flashing your froyo now. well keep us updated king. not for or against anybody. dont know enough about deving to have an opinion.
seems very much a case of guilty until proven innocent.
All of this is stupid, this is a community working with something that is OPEN SOURCE, so nothing is technically stealing, but if you use someone's work, just give credit. People just need to grow up and work together.
smjfosho said:
All of this is stupid, this is a community working with something that is OPEN SOURCE, so nothing is technically stealing, but if you use someone's work, just give credit. People just need to grow up and work together.
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thats true..but i think that you still need to get permission from others if someone is using other's stuff... ...unless its straight from AOSP...i believe thats the forum rool
geokuttan said:
thats true..but i think that you still need to get permission from others if someone is using other's stuff... ...unless its straight from AOSP...i believe thats the forum rool
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well I'd love to see when that "rooL" is enforced
Download 75% of the sense hero roms on here, you'll see the a2sd script i put in my roms among MANY other things of MINE.
I WILL NOT NAME NAMES!
if u dont believe me Ill tweet the names to u
THIS IS OPEN SOURCE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BUY AN HD2
kingklick said:
well I'd love to see when that "rooL" is enforced
Download 75% of the sense hero roms on here, you'll see the a2sd script i put in my roms among MANY other things of MINE.
I WILL NOT NAME NAMES!
if u dont believe me Ill tweet the names to u
THIS IS OPEN SOURCE IF YOU DONT LIKE IT BUY AN HD2
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open source does not mean you can go taking others people work and passing it off as your own... but I guess since you did one a2sd script that everyone used you feel it was right to take 95% of another rom and relabel it your own?
A simple credit would of taken care of this whole mess and kept everyone of your threads from being locked. It's not hard to tell others that YOU did not do everything in YOUR rom, but you choose to say you don't work with team douche but you sure are quick to take from them..
Let's make sure we are comparing apples to apples here King..
kingklick said:
thats what we call an exaggeration
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Well...I don't want to be an a-hole but I did find a file posted by firerat in your Froyo2G1 ROM...and...well....it doesn't really agree with your statement...as far as I can tell but there could be other forces at hand here <_< >_> that are trying to demolish your rep. I don't know...Just my .02$
Firstly I've moved this thread to general discussion. I'll leave a short redirect for it.
This is the original post from the moderator who closed your threads, posted by his request and awaiting your response.
Mikey1022 said:
Last night, I, locked all of KingKlick's Rom threads.
As for the reason, i have evidence he intentionally copied at least 2 Roms from respectable Android developers, renamed the and called them his own.
I dont have time, due too work, no internet at work.
He isn't banned at the moment, for later today, will be sending him a PM to open a thread in PUBLIC and explain himself.
Why public?? For the simple reason.........he kept shoving a donation link in every thread he created, unlike the other developers, he copy-catted from.
If anyone know about checksums , you can not really fake them, they are like encoded serial keys to a zip file?
Every change you make to a rom once you compile it, no matter how simple or minor it is, the overall checksum will change for that file and/or the overall checksum.
If someone wants to PM him for him and have him start his statement while im working, thank you. If not i will PM later tonight.
We can not/should not allow developers coping roms, collecting money on others hard work. As he calls it his own.
Im uploading the files right now to Mediafire, will have link later for all too look at if needed.
A couple mods on here know about King and his crap he has been pulling off, so it's not a big surprise.
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Gotta love the internet, where the rule of law means ****. Anyone ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
Heck, Klick hasn't even been formally notified by the XDA staff as to why his threads are locked, never mind a formal accusation. Yet it seems the community has already made it's decision, with pitchforks and torches in hand.
I'm sorry, but what a crock! If any of you were accused of an offense, i'm sure you'd all want the benefit of the doubt, and a fair hearing before being tarred and feathered!
I strongly encourage the XDA staff to contact Klick directly in regards to this issue, and to make a public statement. Anything less constitutes a witchhunt, and I for one do not want to sit idly by and watch that unfold!

Android 2.3 Gingerbread ROMs Already Ported To Droid Eris

This is a link to the post of a rom ported to Eris, please read carefully, please leave any comment below
http://bit.ly/gOP0Fk
chicofiebru said:
This is a link to the post of a rom ported to Eris, please read carefully, please leave any comment below
http://bit.ly/gOP0Fk
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why do we need a link to find a link back to this forum?
Is thisfor real?
Sent from my GingerbreadEris using XDA App
Because its his website LOL
No kidding. The OP may want to glance a bit down the page on this forum.
Sent from my ERIS using Tapatalk
man im glad u posted this cuz i never woulda found the port for the eris lookin here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=554
its kinda funny , its on the same page as this thread
Don't worry captain will take care of this thread
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
I just share the post, sorry if that bother you, im not saying i make that ROM
Me no think he understand
Sent from my ERIS using Tapatalk
chicofiebru said:
I just share the post, sorry if that bother you, im not saying i make that ROM
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ok lets try this again ,, the thread is already posted here for gingerbread by kaos ,,, y would u post this in the same place ? y would someone click ur link only to click another link to come back here??
chicofiebru said:
I just share the post, sorry if that bother you, im not saying i make that ROM
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just goes to show that this guy does not know much about anything. i do not claim to be a genius and a know all of anything, but i find something and trace it back to its source, thats how i ended up here like everyone else. this guy is just looking for free traffic and probably googled droid eris and posted the same post on other forums and sites as well as this one.
we are not mad that you posted the obvious to us eris users, its that you didnt even look around for anything and just started posting away to get your site traffic. grow up and gain some knowledge my friend, i cant tell you how much i have learned reading all of these different posts and learning from the guys that do their homework and get all this stuff running. kaos, conap, tazz, etc. these guys work their asses off and you posting something like this is just an insult to them. say thanks, give credit where its due and then keep your mouth shut. jackass.
jore13 said:
just goes to show that this guy does not know much about anything. i do not claim to be a genius and a know all of anything, but i find something and trace it back to its source, thats how i ended up here like everyone else. this guy is just looking for free traffic and probably googled droid eris and posted the same post on other forums and sites as well as this one.
we are not mad that you posted the obvious to us eris users, its that you didnt even look around for anything and just started posting away to get your site traffic. grow up and gain some knowledge my friend, i cant tell you how much i have learned reading all of these different posts and learning from the guys that do their homework and get all this stuff running. kaos, conap, tazz, etc. these guys work their asses off and you posting something like this is just an insult to them. say thanks, give credit where its due and then keep your mouth shut. jackass.
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It's My Blog, i post whatever i want, neither u like it or not, Sissy
chicofiebru said:
It's My Blog, i post whatever i want, neither u like it or not, Sissy
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youre right, your site is your blog, but this site is not. were just saying dont post obvious stuff in a place where it has already been and developed for a couple of days now.
and i guess you didnt get to the part of keeping your mouth shut, oh well, i had to try. jackass.
jore13 said:
youre right, your site is your blog, but this site is not. were just saying dont post obvious stuff in a place where it has already been and developed for a couple of days now.
and i guess you didnt get to the part of keeping your mouth shut, oh well, i had to try. jackass.
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no need for name calling like ds said captain will remove this im sure
GUYS! I heard that kaos got Gingerbread working. Has anyone else heard that?
I like jellybeans
I made a gingerbread house
Sent from my nonsensikal froyo
Dont post to external sites
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.

Public apology

i apologize to any and everyone whose work i have used without getting your permission first i truely truely am sorry. i will be taking everything down that i have posted on xda that has other's work without them giving me permission to use it. and even once i ask them and they deny permission i will be taking the uploads down after that as well. again i'm sorry
as for everyone's comments about my HUGE MISTAKE I'M SORRY ABOUT....
LiquidSolstice said:
I never gave anyone permission to do this. You didn't ask me, you told me after the fact. I was planning on letting guitardoc take over, but this is just unacceptable.
Please take this down.
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i did post a comment on your thread asking you to pm me but you never did and i got impatient and hyped up about things and i just rushed things and posted finished stable builds of your rom without your permission thinking things would be okay if i emphisized 3x on the thread i didn't do anything but finish your rom all credit goes to you for all other work. but again i went about things the wrong way i wasn't trying to take full credit for your rom i thought i made that clear in the first post but i guess saying it 3x still isn't the right way to go about things, glad to see we're working things out (btw everyone check out the title of his thread now ) for the better now bro! so i'd like to say this publicly, SORRY FOR USING YOUR ROM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION LIQUID! (i wanted to say that on the forum so everyone saw lol ) do you accept my appology liquid? (impaler please ____ , you know what we talked about, after liquid post his reply)
FdxRider said:
Uh-oh!
Sent from my Pedal to the Metal Hero
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I know i made a big uh oh!
LiquidSolstice said:
Let's get something straight here, because it seems you're all offended right now. You can stop fishing for pity or sympathy, because I have none for you.
"help" would have been PMing me what you tried to do, I could test it, and if it works, the links would get posted on the ORIGINAL thread with full credit to you. Hell, I would have put a goddamn donate button right next to links to you. That's how proper crediting goes. I credit with permission every single person who has tested or fixed something for me with the ROM, and that would not have been any different.
Instead, without telling me, you copied my thread, put up a modified version of my ROM, and told me only AFTER the fact that you did so.
You have some INSANE issues with understanding permission and crediting, and as I understand it, this isn't your first time. It doesn't matter if you put my name in 72 BOLD pt in this thread, you never asked me and you posted a whole damn new thread for it. That's just not ok.
If you really want to be "omg super-hero dev", you need to start earning your fellow dev's respect, and right now, that's not working out for you.
If you're still interested in being credited for this, PM me with the download links, I'll check them out, and if they are ok, I'll put it in my original 2.1.1 thread with full credit to you. That's how it works.
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i really want to earn my fellow dev's respect but i keep screwing up i'm sorry again bro. and i'm reading the forum rules about crediting as we speak right now.
laie1472 said:
LMAO I gotta post on this. Sup kifno man?? How can you post take down jasonmaloney and i's rom??? When in the op man you don't give him credit for anything. You state you have finished up ls's rom not jasonmaloney and you. And come on kifno you didn't even ask the man could you work on his rom??? Wow impressive.
Yea its me Again With the
Modified Hero-
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no i asked to take down jasonmaloney's build and my build (two seperate things) b/c we both posted our build's on liquid's thread without his permission.....which was a big no no....but i made things worse by making a seperate thread....again sorry liquid. so there was no need to credit jasonmaloney, laie i know i messed up big time smh stupid move on my part
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Not that it matters much, but his ROMs and jasonmaloney's are separate. jasonmaloney just put his in Liquid's original 2.1.1 thread here.
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exactly what i was saying about taking down our build's....
LiquidSolstice said:
At least jasonmaloney did not try to make a brand new thread about it. He would have asked me ahead of time, as a proper dev should.
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again i asked ahead of time on the thread but no reply but i did screw things up worse by making this thread again sorry....
il Duce said:
this is EXACTLY what I was talking about in the NFX rom that you put up as your own, you are officially a KANGAHOLIC, and people have been and should be banned for it. Every thread you posts seems to be less about development and more about popularity, you even say **** like "my rom" which you could only REALLY say if you built it from google source, which you obviously can't do. I sincerely hope liquid reported you to the Scotsman, and appropriate action is taken. you = sick. me = sickened.
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i said in my rom's thread that it was based of nfx rom and i gave him credit, i said what i did. i didn't do what i did with liquid's rom, two completely different things... il Duce ik i screwed up with this rom and again i won't be making any mess ups like this again (me = thinking before my actions from now on xda) sorry
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it's not even as though I would have minded him PMing me first or even do what Jasonmaloney did (posting it as a reply in the original thread )
My rom (I say that very loosely) is based on nfx, but only with full permission from nfinite and on popular request. Even further I credited (with permission ) anyone who helped in testing or debugging, and that is the proper thing to do.
I'm just disappointed. that's the worst of it.
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again my apologies are given to you, do you accept? i know i screwed up big time bro....smh big mistake here
33hfl said:
LS should be out of this and not to be so ofended or asking for any recognition about what someone did when he walked away from his own ROM.He sould thank this guy for finish what he started and never finished after a lot of promess and excuses
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no bro i screwed up...i can't even agree to anything you just said b/c all i wanted to do was help
il Duce said:
oh my god you cannot be serious. smh
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read what i said
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go kifno good work
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good work = yes did i mess up? = HELL YEAH!
FdxRider said:
FORUM RULES12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Seek permission <---- What part of that do you or kifno not understand?
Doesn't matterr if it's been dormant for long time still LS's work. Follow the forum rules.
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i am reading and MEMORIZING the forum rules as of now
dpeeps74 said:
Oh man, I'm team Jacob!
Wait, wrong drama
~run, run, as fast as you can, can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man~
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lol wow
33hfl said:
I dont know why LS is crying right now when he wallked away from his own ROM after a lot of excuses and promises.he turned his back on his own son.He should thank this man for the woderful job done.Or he forgot his post.Kifno never took credit for what he was doing,he always gave it to LS
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i did give credit to him 3x throughout the post and said all i did was finish it as he planned to but i went about it wrong....
FdxRider said:
LMAO u sew funneeeeee! NOT!
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ik that was funny right?
jasonmaloney said:
Again with the hostility.
Folks, there is a report post button on every single post on this site. You would all do better to use it than to fill up the development forum with unnecessary drama.
Yes, it wasn't very smart to use LiquidSolstice's work without his permission AND to start a new thread for it with a misleadingly similar title. But the bickering and harassment isn't any more accepted by the rules, nor is it productive in any constructive way. It doesn't really matter who was originally right or wrong; this forum is getting flooded with way too much verbal diarrhea. This is not the XDA mantra.
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again i apologize for doing what i did to even create this drama....this wouldn't have happened if i did things the correct way....sorry
someonenewhere said:
What's the big deal?
The man gave LS credit and he said it "I'm just finishing what LS COULDN'T FINISH"
LS, if you don't want people to finish your ROM. Maybe YOU SHOULD TRY FINISHING YOUR ROM..
You left your ROM out there as a bastard child and that bastard child found a father to take care of it.
WHY CRY ABOUT IT?
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no no i went about things wrong i take full responsiblity for my mistake...sorry liquid
LiquidSolstice said:
Excellent contribution. It must be nice, sitting there just using other people's work and never really taking the time to find out how it all comes together. I'm sure you must be spoiled and basically taking all these custom ROMs you get for granted as most people seem to these days. Just a quick look at any tech blog concerning Android, and you'll find comments such as "oh I'm not worried, XDA will figure it out". People freeload off this place so willingly, paying nothing in either donation or even respect/appreciation (which is all most devs are looking for)
In the meantime, we'll just go with this; my rom = my rom. Whether or not I want to finish it, or whether or not I want it to be finished, or in this case, wehther or not I want someone else to do it, that would be my choice. I put in the hours, I put in the time, you did nothing.
I left the ROM because no one seemed to give a damn about it, and I'm finding out increasingly that I was very wrong about that. If you looked at Chef Central on the Main XDA Forum page, you'll find a few threads by me asking for help with the last bit of cooking, which was the kernel. I didn't notice that Kifno figured it out, and only realized what I needed to fo when jasonmaloney PMed me. I said I had every intention of making it stable, and I was indeed working on it.
Which means that it is my task and my right to put up the final update to my own ROM, not have someone else do it without even letting me know beforehand or asking me, and then posting my exact thread over again instead of PMing me the link to add it in the OP, and then telling me after the fact.
Kifno has already got in touch with me and we're working it out, you guys can relax now.
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again we talked things out and i'm sorry bro. and yes i may just be improving others work (the espreeso 2.1 rom i posted) and changing things, i never took full credit actually most of it goes to nfx b/c everyday i wake up he has a pm in my inbox helping me out with the espresso 2.1 rom, it wouldn't be where it is at without his help. only thing i can take full credit for is my build.prop's thats the only thing i actually did from my own work as for the espresso 2.1 rom that was from the help of many other members on this site, i never took full credit for that rom. i use the term my rom, when i refer to the espresso 2.1 rom, b/c i changed it, not b/c i developed it from scratch and did everything to it on my own, i'm not a super-dev yet lol. i'm just improving other's work and learning along the way and giving them credit and asking permission along the way from now on until i know enough to make something of my own again (besides text files lol) that will be of great help to the community....but for now i'm focuses on improving my rom (AGAIN IT ISN'T COMPLETELY MY ROM MANY OTHERS HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY) and helping others with their work for the hero and problems....first person on the list....liquid!!!!!! (we're pming each other now folks working this out for the better so its alright)
kevphan08 said:
So.....can we use the Rom or No.....Just seems like it was a mistake by the OP to reuse LS's unfinished work without permission, that obviously was a mistake, but if the rom is up and running and "stable" can we just not forgive and forget?
I'm just wondering, not taking a stance/side just a user asking a question.
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we're working on things right now...
You know what man, you're a smark kid, you just take things a bit fast.
You'll grow to understand what it means to command respect here, and I'm sure you'll earn it from everyone. This place is bursting with ideas and creativity, but just PM ROM devs in the future. Every ROM dev needs help, there's no denying that. Sometimes the help you have to offer isn't enough or isn't to their preference, but there's never any harm in PMing to find out.
As far as my ROM goes, with your help, we'll finish this up and finally put an end to all this over exaggerated madness.
E huuuuuuuuug
[dpeeps74]
I think we all learned something here (I sure did), and that's a positive.
Kifno:
I understand you're trying to help, but make it short and sweet. We don't need a full passive - aggressive rundown of events.
I think you would do a great service to yourself (and the people reading your long disjointed posts) if you learned to use some basic English language sentence structure. Your lack of punctuation and your paragraphs of run-on sentences makes you look uneducated and immature.
You're not a bad person, so please take this as constructive criticism.
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
FdxRider said:
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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I AGREE with FDX.... RESPECT MAN!!
KIFNO, Admitted he was Wrong!!
That's Big in itself!! It's seems these days, People find it SO MUCH EASIER to just LIE, or BULL**** their way through MISTAKES and basically LIFE in general!
Kifno DIDN'T DO THAT! Instead he owned up to his MISTAKES....
"LIKE a MAN" Should do!
After the Fact, at the End of the Day, All that's Left to come to some sort RECONCILIATION is a TRUE from the HEART a APOLOGY!!
*Sent On My*
Fast as its Ever Been...
"Sprint" Hero... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero*ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA.BLUE.apk! "Page:10"of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
Hey kifno
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App
U no tjsy myvrnhlo
Sent from my HTC Hero CDMA using XDA App
Wow man great job kifno. It's tough to own up in the face of so many people watching this, you're really just a good person beyond the scope of these forums. I'm proud to call you a fellow human being. I've been watching this escalate and deescalate and I must say it's been a roller coaster ride. I must say some people have been a bit harsher than they should have, but it's understandable when looked at from a different perspective. Kudos to you again.
I'm excited about how the ROM is moving forward at lightning speed right now. Note, LS, that I'm actually using your ROM right now (2.1 stable) and I llllllllooooove it! keep up the good work, I bet it's time-consuming and frustrating to look through and optimize so much code!
~ Jake
Thanks everyone
And I'm not a grammar freak lol I don't treat my post as essays I just type what comes to mind lol that's why my paragraph structure and grammar look bad on the forums just like this very long run on sentence but really constantly working, and school, and keeping 5 roms (mine and ls 4 builds) and my tweak up to date with fixes and new tweaks and optimizations is very time consuming and hard to fit all in one day lol but I just want to help the community and I plan on doing that the right way, LESSON LEARNED HERE, BTW look out for kifno & ls projects in the future
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
Many thanks!!
In the aftermath of all this stuff, I just want to say that truly I appreciate ALL the hard work that you devs put into keeping our Heroes from becoming paperweights. Just the small amount of work I've put into making my own themes for myself makes me appreciate the scope of talent and sheer blood, sweat, and tears it takes to make this stuff work.
ALL YOU DEVS ROCK!!!
oohaylima said:
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
Lol Ya got me cop'er.
user7618 said:
You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
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Lol.... Good **** Guys, Gotta Nice Laugh Outta Me!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
user7618 said:
You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
kifno said:
Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
PMGRANDS said:
Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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user7618 said:
*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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lmao! --> extra characters because my message was too short.

Who is most deserving?

Okay, I was able to file a complaint through a channel that not only has allowed me to order the Nexus 6 I wanted, but also have it sent via free overnight FedEx to be delivered tomorrow... yes, on Saturday.
I was going to post how I did this, but felt it [maybe] unfair to the people who made it happen for me.
So, this leads me to the question: Of all of the people trying to buy this phone, who would truly benefit this community if they were able to get one? Also, who would keep this information confidential and not repost it for the whole community?
Now, I'm not saying this is guaranteed, but from the time I initiated contact, I had a call back within a few short hours, and was able to place an order over the phone.
Are there any developers who have been unable to get it, who would undoubtedly do some serious good by having one?
I hope no one takes this the wrong way. I have zero developing skills, and this is just a tiny way for me to do something for someone deserving since I've benefited so much from this community.
I see what you are trying to do OP.... Might be best to just send a pm next time
Sent from my NEXUS 6
I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
wvcadle said:
I am not asking for donations. And this thread has been taken all wrong anyway.
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Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
obsanity said:
Ok, I would vote for @franciscofranco. I believe he is still waiting for his and is supposed to be shipped Dec 15 from the UK.
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Thank you! Ask him if he's willing to wait or if he wants to go this route and I'll PM him. Hell, I've used his kernels more than any other.
@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
This thread breaks no rules that I am aware of.
If you do not like it, do not read it.
I understand what the OP is getting at.
He has not solicited thanks or donations, if he does then report the thread.
Thread cleaned. Now keep it clean please
simms22 said:
@franciscofranco is waiting for his to arrive, @rascarlo cant afford one. and he is a great deserving rom developer.
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I cannot afford to buy a 2nd one for someone, but am willing to share how I got mine. I know franco is direct and upfront with his words. I don't want to offend him by offering him this info. But if anyone who knows him wants to let him know to contact me, I couldn't think of many more deserving than him.
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MOD EDIT @gregbradley
Please watch your language. If this thread goes pear shaped I will close it. I am watching
I agree with offering the info to Franciscofranco cause he makes a hell of a kernel and keeps it well updated! I'm sure he'd like to get started.
I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
Skripka said:
I'd contact CarbonROM or Slim. Last I heard Carbon said they'd only support n6 if they won a phone as no maintainers had money for it.
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Please understand what the OP is saying
He does not have a phone to give away
He just knows a way for people to get hold of one quickly, you still have to buy it. He is not selling his own phone.
This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
Circaflex said:
This isnt even really ground breaking news, all he did was complain up the chain of command and like most execs they dont want to deal with it so in order to make the client happy they just take care of them. You mention they told you not to post online, yet you are doing just that. I honestly dont see the point of this thread, why dont you PM a few of the top developers and see if someone is interested. Its like you are playing a game and somehow you have to be entitled to get your super top secret information.
If it were up to me i would contact someone from Slim team, CM team, PA team, and OMNI team as those 4 are actually doing real development and dont just kang/piece together bits and pieces from every other rom out there.
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Well, you have every right to feel that way, even as wrong as you are. The last thing I need to do is justify anything to you or anyone else. I've got a temper, and it has shown on here, but I'm not game player. Like others have said, if you don't like the post, leave it alone.
Well OP im no Dev but if youre willing to shed some light on just how you managed that you'd be the coolest person on xda.
why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
wvcadle said:
Boom! Anyway, check back here Friday evening. Once I see my 64GB MB N6 "en route", as in "having left the care of its sender and in the hands of the carrier", I'll post how I got someone to listen to, respond, and sell me a phone, all within the same day.
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just sayin
How bout sharing it with a fellow WV native?
Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
Circaflex said:
why the sudden change of heart though? you originally said you'd share the info if the phone did indeed ship now you wanna have some sort of vote on who to give the info to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57088617&postcount=6033
just sayin
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Yes, you're correct. I was overly excited and hadn't had time to think about it. And then.... I thought about it and how awesome this person on a small team was to me, and decided against it.
I have no problem with this thread being closed. It's obvious aside from the few who "got" what I was trying to do and posted suggestions, the rest have just whined or bickered on here.
In Desolation said:
Somehow the thought of a smartphone in West Virginia is surreal to me.
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As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
wvcadle said:
As opposed to Tennessee...? Lol!
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Born and raised in WV, moved to Tennessee 2 years ago. Grew up in Ravenswood.

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