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[GUIDE] SIPdroid & Google Voice setup (updated 3-12-2010)

The guides listed here are extremely dated.
Not all services mentioned allow new users, and some now require a subscription. Also, the process has been simplified greatly since the creation of these tutorials.
I recommend using an application such as Groove IP to connect directly to Gtalk rather than bounce the call all over the place to different SIP providers.
Trying to find a way to verify GV w/o a active U.S. phone number? This info will still work for that, but you have to use IPKall routed to PBXes extension w/ "info" as DTMF type on (pbxes extension) settings.
Planning to do something more interesting like route multiple gv#s to one place? Than the info might still be useful to you, but only as a point of reference.
These instructions will explain how to get Sipdroid and Google Voice set up so you can use your Android phone with only WiFi or 3g/Edge (no cellular minutes). It also provides a solution to get Google Voice accounts validated for people who lack a US phone number.
Alright I guess these guides were a little more popular than expected. Kept exceeding bandwidth limits for the images, so I had to move 'em.
If you would like to view the original guides please visit my blog

gurnted said:
These instructions will explain how to get Sipdroid and Google Voice set up so you can use your Android phone with only WIFI or 3g/Edge. It also provides a solution to get Google Voice accounts validated for people who lack a US phome number.
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While I didn't personally use the method myself, a post on the Google Voice discussion forum said you can perform your verification call on a Gizmo number (receive it by logging into the flash client at gizmo5.com)
The first time I set up an ipkall DID, it took a week. Kind of annoying.

Due to bandwidth limits causing the images to go down, I have moved the guides.

gurnted said:
Huh? I tried to use Gizmo to confirm my wife's account a couple weeks ago, and Google Voice said a Landline or Mobile had to be used as the primary forwarding number. If they have in fact changed their policy regarding this, its great news for international users. Maybe someone with a fresh account would be kind enough to give it a try and bless us with the results. Either way thanks for the info.
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Well, I read that information roughly a month ago so it could have been changed. On Gizmo's gizmovoice.com page, they state that a user can buy a 6-month DID number to accept the GV confirmation call, so I guess its probable that a Gizmo number cannot be used for confirmation.
It's a shame it took so long for ipkall to get back to you. It usually does take a day or two, but a week is awful. Then again waiting 6-8 months for a Google Voice invite is a tad bit more irritating (but still well worth it)
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Well it was before I even got my GV invite, mainly just as experimentation for getting my SIP setup. Free is free, so I wasn't really concerned.
By the way, I have updated the Sipdroid primer a little. Might make some more tweaks/update the sample pics later.

This is a great tutorial! I'm currently using just the gizmo5 + GV setup, what are the advantages to your way? I am assuming the 3 minute outgoing call limit is gone, but is there anything else?
My #1 complaint with the gizmo5 + GV method (and this may be Sipdroid's fault) is that it seems if I don't make or recieve a call for a few hours... maybe a day... then sipdroid sort of times out, disconnects, and I miss calls even though sipdroid still shows the green connected light. I'm just curious if getting away from gizmo5 would fix this? Thanks!

This is a great tutorial! I'm currently using just the gizmo5 + GV setup, what are the advantages to your way? I am assuming the 3 minute outgoing call limit is gone, but is there anything else?
My #1 complaint with the gizmo5 + GV method (and this may be Sipdroid's fault) is that it seems if I don't make or recieve a call for a few hours... maybe a day... then sipdroid sort of times out, disconnects, and I miss calls even though sipdroid still shows the green connected light. I'm just curious if getting away from gizmo5 would fix this? Thanks!
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Thank you, and yes you are correct about the 3 minute limit, but you don't have to leave gizmo for that. Just set GV as default dialer and set call method to Call-Back in GV (Be sure to set gizmo # as callback in GV app). Other than that Gizmo5 charged for callerID at the time I set mine up, and I had alot of choppy calls when using them (even using X-Ten and Ekiga from pc). Also Google Voice did not (and I'm not sure if they do yet) allow a Gizmo # to be default forward. Using IPkall gives you a true US # which can be set as default and used to validate g.v. account. People who don't have a US # couldn't even forward to Gizmo until a default US land or mobile number was set.
As far as missed calls and sipdroid timing out, I believe it depends on how you are connecting. I haven't had any trouble with such issues while on 3g. In fact I use this as my only method of calling, and dropped down to just the data plan with my carrier. Before we got 3g where I live I would have similar problems on EDGE and WIFI networks. Try setting the minimum signal strength lower for the networks you will be using under advanced settings on sipdroid. Also be sure to use TCP rather than UDP. Required refresh time is alot longer with TCP and you will not get as many time-outs.
Another thing is it may very well be gizmo5 causing the timeout issue. I did miss a few calls and got alot more disconnects while I was testing to see if I could cut out a few legs of my forwarding scheme. Figured it would cut back on a little latancy, but It gave me issues so I switched back. Though Sipdroid supports any sip provider that uses the proper codecs, it is really designed to work well with PBXes. I have tried it with 4-5 providers and none worked as well as PBXes. Even gizmo5 worked better through PBXes than directly connecting from sipdroid.

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sorry about that

ive gotten this setup correctly (i think), but i cannot get the pbxes->sipdroid part working.
if i call my ipkall number, i see the call register in sip2sip, and i see it in the history in pbxes.
sipdroid connects to pbxes fine, and the extension shows up as active. the call just never makes it to sipdroid
if i call from sipdroid OUT, i get a message that says please try again later and hangs up

maleman876 said:
ive gotten this setup correctly (i think), but i cannot get the pbxes->sipdroid part working.
if i call my ipkall number, i see the call register in sip2sip, and i see it in the history in pbxes.
sipdroid connects to pbxes fine, and the extension shows up as active. the call just never makes it to sipdroid
if i call from sipdroid OUT, i get a message that says please try again later and hangs up
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I too get this same error my phone wont ring and then I recive an email that says i got a voice mail!!??
how to fix ths pls!!
(NEVERMIND I GOT IT WORKING NOW!!!!)

maleman876 said:
ive gotten this setup correctly (i think), but i cannot get the pbxes->sipdroid part working.
if i call my ipkall number, i see the call register in sip2sip, and i see it in the history in pbxes.
sipdroid connects to pbxes fine, and the extension shows up as active. the call just never makes it to sipdroid
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There may be a problem with inbound routing settings. One thing you could try would be to skip sip2sip by forwarding ipkall directly to your pbxes extension. There are instructions on how to do this at pbxes. It works quite well. I will add this to the guide soon. I've just been a little busy lately.
if i call from sipdroid OUT, i get a message that says please try again later and hangs up
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There are quite a few things that could cause this.
What type of call are you trying to make? (are you calling another sip# or a pstn#)
Which sip provider do you use for outbound calls?
Is your outbound route configured properly at pbxes?
I just let GV handle the outbound calls with callback. I have a sipdiscount account configured for outbound, but I don't really use it much. That's why I didn't cover it in the guide. I'll help as much as I can, but you might also want to check out the Sipdroid Primer. It explains alot about using sipdroid to place calls.

Pbxes webstie not working for me amy.one else getting this issue!?

Sipdroid+Gizmo+GV on Android
Hello,
First, thanks for your hard work enabling GV to work on an Android phone, like my unlocked G1 Dev Phone on AT&T EDGE in NYC.
I tried a different route, using Gizmo, Sipdroid, and GV. I set up GV to "use Google Voice for all calls", "call back" method, and WIFI and EDGE for connecting.
It all works just fine, calls to Canada are crystal clear, even away from WIFI on EDGE.
However, I just got my first wireless bill for this DATA ONLY phone (formerly a Blackberry), and was shocked that a 23-minute call to Canada cost me $16.00!
What happened?
Will your method fix the "free" nature of this system, is Gizmo the culprit here?
Please define how I should set up my data-only G1 to work properly with SIP, or do I just undo all the settings for Gizmo, and use the procedures you advise in your post?
Thank you!

if you use google voice....your not talking over the net...your talking over your cell line.
These instructions will explain how to get Sipdroid and Google Voice set up so you can use your Android phone with only WIFI or 3g/Edge. It also provides a solution to get Google Voice accounts validated for people who lack a US phome number.
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so...follow the instructions

divinicus said:
However, I just got my first wireless bill for this DATA ONLY phone (formerly a Blackberry), and was shocked that a 23-minute call to Canada cost me $16.00!
What happened?
Thank you!
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Sounds like your google voice also forwarded to your cell number. Make sure it's unchecked on their website under settings > phones. That would also explain why you got perfect calls even away from wifi/edge. You can be sure sipdroid is being used by the color of the call display. If it's a more blueish green it's a sip call. Regular green is cellular network.

OK guys sorry for the complete noobness ahead of time but I have no idea how this stuff works but I'm very interested in it. First of all my scenario is I'm going to be moving to the Philippines for nursing school next year and I want to keep in touch with my family while taking my unlocked G1 with me. I have a Google Voice number and a Gizmo5 account. I saw on the Gizmo5 site that I can't make calls for free but I can receive calls and talk as long as I like for free, I think... Say I'm receiving a call from the US when I'm in the Philippines and I answer. Are they dialing my SIP number or my GV number? And if they're calling my GV number are they being charged for standard domestic calling since it's a Houston #? Basically what I'm looking for is to use my Google Voice number and Gizmo5 account to talk to my family here for free while I'm in the Philippines without them being charged for long distance calls.

Could anyone help me out with this?

ThR1LL said:
OK guys sorry for the complete noobness ahead of time but I have no idea how this stuff works but I'm very interested in it. First of all my scenario is I'm going to be moving to the Philippines for nursing school next year and I want to keep in touch with my family while taking my unlocked G1 with me. I have a Google Voice number and a Gizmo5 account. I saw on the Gizmo5 site that I can't make calls for free but I can receive calls and talk as long as I like for free, I think... Say I'm receiving a call from the US when I'm in the Philippines and I answer. Are they dialing my SIP number or my GV number? And if they're calling my GV number are they being charged for standard domestic calling since it's a Houston #? Basically what I'm looking for is to use my Google Voice number and Gizmo5 account to talk to my family here for free while I'm in the Philippines without them being charged for long distance calls.
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I set sipdroid up using gizmo5 and here's what I did
verify your gizmo through google voice then set google voice to forward incoming calls to your gizmo number
On the gizmo website you can set your google phone number as the outgoing ptsn just use the google voice tab and enter your gv # now all outgoing calls are free to any US #
Now setup your siddroid info username/password is gizmo username or phone # and your password
set your server to proxy01.sipphone.com
leave domain empty
port =5060
protocol = udp
and your done, now your friends, family can call your local number and it will forward all your calls to your phone anywhere with a internet connection and you can also make calls to any US number for free using the same connection

Hi:
Can I get back to using ipkall and pbxes in combo? It is not clear how to set this up. What exactly should I put in the 'SIP Phone Number' and 'SIP Proxy" fields?

hallevison said:
Hi:
Can I get back to using ipkall and pbxes in combo? It is not clear how to set this up. What exactly should I put in the 'SIP Phone Number' and 'SIP Proxy" fields?
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Your sip phone number would be your pbxes extension
Example: gurnted-200
Sip Proxy would be: pbxes.com (.org works too but not as well)
On the gizmo website you can set your google phone number as the outgoing ptsn just use the google voice tab and enter your gv # now all outgoing calls are free to any US #
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Does the time limit no longer apply for Gizmo outgoing? I stopped using them when I got 2 days of choppy calls (both on sipdroid and pc softphone) and havn't been back since. Have they changed it so out calls through Google Voice are unlimited? Also it uses udp which needs to refresh 10x as often. The developer of sipdroid says this causes excessive battery drain. How well is it working for you?

B-man007 said:
if you use gv....your not talking over the net...your talking over your cell line.
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To clarify. If you use the "Google Voice" app developed by Google you are indeed using your cell line. However, if one uses the "GV" app developed by Evan Charlton you are able to set callback number to whatever you choose. By choosing IPKall # as callback and forwarding it to a sip account, calls are made over the net/data plan through Sipdroid.

best voip app? like a full flavored skype?

so, i have ordered, and not yet received (get tomorrow) my nexus one. one of the things about it is that i only have the 500 minute plan (no, i didn't wanna drop 530 on a phone, lol), but coincidentally, i also like to game on the ps3 with a friend. unlike xbox, ps3 doesn't do private chat, so coordinating is actually easier with a cell phone. because i don't want to eat minutes, my intention was to actually skype him through my wifi. however, now i'm finding out, to the best of my knowledge, our option is 'skype lite', which is essentially a turd, and doesn't do anything for me except route my calls through skype on my phoneline, still using my minutes = worthless to me.
so, you guys have been fiddling with android for a while yet, i'm guessing, and i'm wondering what the best option/workaround is. i've heard mention of 'fring', but am not familiar with it. same with 'iskoot'.
gimme the digs, gents (or ladies, as the case may be). how can i voip using my phone to my buddies, without chewing phone minutes?
appreciated
-t

You're paying for the phone regardless. Contract monthly rate is more than non contract rate.

Google Voice comes pre-installed on the N1.
If you don't have a GV account, sign-up for one. It's still by invite only so it may take awhile before you get the invite.
Then you can just go into the 'Voice' app and select to make all calls via Google Voice (which means FREE, doesn't utilize your voice minutes).

You can use fring which has skype call support

Nimbuzz and Fring work well.
Countries outside the US don't get google voice yet.

Namuna said:
Google Voice comes pre-installed on the N1.
If you don't have a GV account, sign-up for one. It's still by invite only so it may take awhile before you get the invite.
Then you can just go into the 'Voice' app and select to make all calls via Google Voice (which means FREE, doesn't utilize your voice minutes).
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You seem to get a GV account automatically with the Nexus One but it still uses your minutes!

Google Voice is not a voice service. You'll still use cell minutes using that alone. You'll need something like Gizmo to voice call over data.
Personally, I use SIPDroid, which integrated perfectly with the N1, GV, and Gizmo. Simply install it, and set up SIPDroid with the settings here:
androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/how-to-free-calls-via-wifi-using-google-voice-and-gizmo5-21836/
Then all calls will always attempt to go through data, if it fails, it will fall back to a normal phone call. Works perfect.

sipdroid supports the industry standard for VoIP (i.e. SIP, like the former gizmo5). You can call other software SIP clients, hardware SIP phones, and SIP<->telephone network gateways.

thanks guys, i'll give this a shot.
and, i already have a GV account. and 2 more invites, lol. i'll just sit on those for a bit...
GV will definitely use minutes, which is what i wanted to avoid. i'll see how the voip options work out. much appreciated.
and, if anyone has any more help/suggestions, it'd be greatly appreciated!
-t

darnit, gizmo5 is no longer an option. new user registration has been suspended :/

Use sipdroid to tie with GV and that should prevent the minute usage. I use sipdroid with gizmo 5 and that works but sipdroid has its shortcomings though. but it works and if you're on 3G, no one can tell the difference. Check the G1/dream forums for more info on sipdroid. There's also a thread over there about sipdroid/skype and another app for totally free minutes....

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Use sipdroid to tie with GV and that should prevent the minute usage. I use sipdroid with gizmo 5 and that works but sipdroid has its shortcomings though. but it works and if you're on 3G, no one can tell the difference. Check the G1/dream forums for more info on sipdroid. There's also a thread over there about sipdroid/skype and another app for totally free minutes....
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I am also using sipdroid, GV and gizmo5. I setup GV to forward to gizmo, and setup sipdroid to login to my gizmo account. All incoming calls to gizmo are free. However if you originate an outgoing call with gizmo, you will be charged the per minute rate by gizmo. To get around this, I use the GV website to originate the call, so that it calls my gizmo account first then connects the call.
Works great so far.

dang. wish that the gizmo site was still open for new members. :/

I suspect that they closed it once google bought them. They might have invites soon, because google will prolly integrate this they of hack into their google voice service. . .

Yes it was closed when Google bought Gizmo5. Are there any other alternatives?
Take a look at this article about the Nexus One subsidized vs ubsubsidized.
He mentions this:
an unsubsidized Nexus One with a data-only T-Mobile plan ($39.99/month), a Skype subscription for unlimited calls to mobile and landlines anywhere in the US and Canada ($2.95(!)/month), and a SkypeIn number ($30/year).
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I wonder how he set that up? I'ld pay $3/month and $30/yr for calls.

I have been trying to configure sipgate pbxes.org Google voice and sipdroid to work but i haven't been able to do it properly if anybody could help me out i would appreciate it

Sipdroid works great on my G1 and N1. I highly recommend it. Give it a try.

MO-Call app for Android
Hi,
Can you try this one, called MO-Call, for making cheap or free international calls?
They support over 2170 handsets on all platforms.
Give a try and let me know what you think.
Cheers

[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling

SRDO - Sprint Relay Data Only plans...

So I've been researching how deaf and hearing impaired people use Android phones to make communication easier and, in this process, I've been checking on which carriers offer special plans for such users.
Apparently Sprint has a $29.99 a month plan that is data only, and unlimited data at that.
http://www.sprintrelaystore.com/data_only_plan.htm
Yes, it's intended for users who will be using their Relay service (to make voice calls by typing text etc.) But they don't restrict it to such purposes.
Interesting.
You can get a Moment or Hero on such a plan if you open a new line. Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what everyone thinks of it. Maybe some of our Sprint employees can explain more of how this plan works to us?

What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?

wirelessness said:
What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?
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In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.

It's funny I was chatting with sprint about this exact same. thing last night. If I could just figure out how to receive calls I will switch to this in a heartbeat. We only use about 400 of the 1500 minutes. And still pay for all of them it seems wasteful.

You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.

would skype work over the data connection?
Or is it the same as google voice where a voice call is still required?

Last i tried skype it was beta for android and it worked loke gvoice, not voip for us yet.

I'm pretty tied to GV and it requires a voice line. Would me nice to use SIP/VOIP if possible though.

skype-to-skype calling works with Fring, and it also has a SIP plugin, although I haven't tried it.

I read on another forum that some people get cheaper featurephones with cheap voice only plans and then get something like an SRDO plan with an Android handset.
Apparently they like separating out the functions... weird to me.

[Accidental double post. Sorry.]

GVoice forwards to Gizmo which can be setup as a the SIP provider in SIPDroid. The Guava project has something like this setup, I don't know much about it beyond its intent. I use SIP/Gizmo as a landline replacement at home via a GVoice number and it works beautifully. My tests with SIP on 3G/2G were less impressive, I don't think it's a "prime time" solution just yet.
In theory this is where cells will go eventually, a data connection and nothing more, no per-minute or per-transaction services, it will be more like an ISP. Data, text, chat, voice, apps, etc, will be delivered on the same pipe. We're practically there now. Add tethering to the mix and this could be the ONLY data pipe you need.

I have use the whole GV + Sipsorcery + sipdroid setup because I don't get reception at my house, so my I use my hero for wifi calls while at home. Most of the time, no one notices the difference. But I think it depends on how many people are using the internet in my area because sometimes there is a delay on the line, but a lot of other times there isn't. For some reason, it actually works better for me when I am using evdo instead of wifi. All of my friends have told me that I sound better while using sipdroid vs the sprint network. Kind of weird.
To that end, my friend brought his t-mobile android over. He is on their data only plan and since he lives in downtown St. Louis the he always has a data connection. So his bill is SUPER cheap by doing all of this and he is raving about it. He never turns his wifi on and uses the same setup as me. He claims he never has any problems, the only drawback being his battery drains faster now.
I wouldn't tell people to just start doing this though because I still encounter problems. Such as I my phone will only ring once and sometimes not at all. It is being routed through three services and like I said, there is a delay sometimes. But then again, sometimes I will go a whole week with it working PERFECTLY.
Maybe someone here might have some advice the proper setup to make this more stable for me. Otherwise I am going to pursue that airave device.

I'll point out again that Sprint's primary purpose in having the SRDO plans is for deaf or hearing impaired users who don't need voice service.
However, it is an interesting idea for those of us who like to tinker, too (=

afazel said:
You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.
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thanks

gomorrah said:
In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.
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False. Google Voice does not include the capability--technologically or otherwise--to carry voice calls over either data or voice bands (...yet; i say "yet" because it seems only natural that a tech-conglomerate like Google might go this route in the future. They've annouced no such plans)
You could use Skype/Fring.

So, in theory:
I could open a new line with this on my old Diamond for ICS only?

I'm reviving an ancient thread here, but, as @flexgrip alluded to above, if you can get a gizmo5 account and a sipsorcery account, someone on a data-only plan can have 100% free voip using your Google Voice number.
You just need to forward your GV calls to gizmo5. Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, but what you can do is setup a sipsorcery account, and route your incoming calls from gizmo (free), but use google voice for your outgoing calls (also free). Now you just use your sipsorcery account as the sip provider in sipdroid. People you call will see your GV # as caller ID, and, of course, calls people place to your Google Voice number will be routed to you.
Gizmo5 accounts (no longer accepting new registrations) can be bought for less than $10 on ebay. Sipsorcery wasn't (temporarily) taking new registrations either the last I checked, but I'm guessing these can be had if you look in the right place as well.
Sipsorcery can have a bit of a learning curve, but there are ready-made tutorials on setting up gizmo5 + GV in sipsorcery online. It's a one-time setup.

Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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aven_soulgazer said:
Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, and plus they've disabled the service they used to have that lets you show a custom number (like your GV #) as your outgoing caller ID.
So unless you want to use voice minutes or go on the web for outgoing calls . . .
Sipsorcery allows you to create a singular sip account that receives the incoming GV>gizmo forward, while making outgoing calls directly from Google Voice (which, of course, is free and posts the same number for caller ID).
Unless there's a new way I'm not aware of, this was what I learned when I was obsessed with finding the cheapest way to make data calls a while back.

How to make free calls without using airtime or minutes on the N1.

Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.

Big_O said:
Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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I thought this was eliminated due to the recent update in GV?

As long as you know the incoming numbers and outgoing numbers for GV, nobody is going to stop you from adding them to the A-List.

But the point of the original was that you would add one number and be able to call that one number and reach anyone you wanted. But now its no difference then adding any number to an A-list, right?

The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Big_O said:
The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Yeah I know what you meant, but I though google broke this in the newest update.

They did.
This method is over a year old. Next time search the forum before posting your out-dated "discovery".

Technically they broke it only for Google Voice. What makes Android so special is that someone else created a program, one of which is called "Google Voice Callback" that lets those of us who have a Fav 5 list still call everyone for free using Google Voice, even with the update.
TL;DR The trick still works, just use a program like Google Voice Callback (FREE in the Market)

Vonage for Facebook is free voip.
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Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)

Big_O said:
Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't flaming. Just informing. Your post, on the other hand, was burning hot. Calm down, it's the internet.
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Paul22000 said:
10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack

yozpalang said:
if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
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But doesn't MagicJack cost money?

Paul22000 said:
But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
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Sorry my my bad but it is only $20 a year

Does this work in canada...
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Sip calling?
There is another way to do it without the myfaves if you use sipdroid or another program similar. You have to set yourself up with a sip number, which is free on a couple of sites (using sipgate currently).
Then set up your Google Voice callback, this lets you select whether you want to use the wifi(or 3g) calling. For incoming calls you can also force them to go to your free number.
I'm sure there are some good tutorials around if you need more info.

I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.

smachine said:
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
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This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)

Paul22000 said:
This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
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Glad this helped you out. I tried to explain each and every step so there was no room for error. I never ran into issues with wifi connections at home, starbucks, airports, hotels, but im guessing your work blocked alot of ports.

Google voice only?

I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.

Have you tried to download and use the skype app over wifi? It may cost you a little to call but would be better than the roaming fees.

jmd1981 said:
I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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Google Voice on Android does not currently support VOIP from the handset to the server. That feature is only available through the Gmail desktop browser page on an operating system that is supported by the Gtalk voice and video chat plugin. Another way to get end-to-end VOIP with Google Voice is using Gizmo5, if you had signed up for that service before Google bought it out. That only lets you do incoming calls though.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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If you have a temp visa or better yet a coworker or friend there you could probably get month-to-month service there. That would be the best bet, but it's generally one of the more difficult countries for visitors to get a sim card in. The airport might have some rental services, but iirc they rented you the whole phone (by the day no less) and it's fairly expensive compared to regular service.
Also it goes without saying that if you want to use a Softbank sim you will need to subsidy unlock (also known as sim unlock) the phone.
Edit: it is rumored that the WiFi calling feature that T-mo is bringing to the G2 and other Android devices will allow a connection and minutes usage internationally. Personally I think this is unlikely (for a few reasons, some of which are legal/regulatory) but it would be pretty nice. Of course this would seriously short circuit the way GV for Android works. You would not be able to make outbound calls with GV in the caller ID.

If you need an unlock code for that phone. to use a japan sim. Let me know via PM

You could always install skype and set your outgoing caller id to your google voice number. Then sign up for a number at sipgate.com and add your new number to google voice. Once that's activated, download and install Fring or sipdroid and add your sipgate information. Use skype to making outgoing, take incoming calls with fring or sipdroid. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for unlimited skype-out, you can try one of the many google voice dialer apps out there. They basically initiate calls using the google voice web interface, which you can actually do via your browser if none of the apps work out.
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Or just buy a skype number and unlimited skype out then setup skype caller id and forward your GV calls to your skype #

I'm not sure if any devs will see this here, so I will probably post in the G1 dev forum or the general android forum as well, but I wanted to do a search first and this is the only similar thread I have found. Anyway...
As some of you know, you can now place FREE calls to anywhere in the US or Canada using GMail and the "voice and video chat plugin". You can also receive calls from within GMail if you have a GoogleVoice account and you set it up to forward GoogleVoice calls to "Google Chat" as well as your phone(s).
This is awesome! I can now answer calls from GMail instead of my phone. I wish the desktop GoogleTalk app did that so I wouldn't have to always keep a webbrowser page open to GMail, but that is not what this post is about...
I got to thinking: if GMail can place and receive free phone calls, why can't I do that on my phone (or any device with internet)? I downloaded every available webbrowser for Android and tried to surf to GMail, but none of them even loaded the page (???), much less the plugin.
While searching for any possible solution, I learned that the required "voice and video chat plugin" is available for Linux. This fact makes me almost positive that it is somehow possible for someone to develop an Android app that loads that plugin, logs in to GMail (spoofing a desktop browser), and displays the Pop-out dial pad capable of placing and receiving free calls!
Is anyone up to the challenge? This is huge people! FREE phone where ever there is internet. I hope someone can make this happen.

There is a way of doing this... you ARE talking about calling and using your 3g/4g network, right?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.

Don't you have WiFi Calling?

AndroidBoston said:
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
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Do you not realize the WiFi calling app still relies on the TMO network?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
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No, there is no equivalent of the gmail chat plugin. You're limited to using a sip client and forwarding your GV to that number

I'm pretty sure you can't even roam in Japan anymore. Unless this phone has the UMTS frequencies for 1900, you wont get anything. Recently, Softbank shut off GSM/2G service.