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SRDO - Sprint Relay Data Only plans...

So I've been researching how deaf and hearing impaired people use Android phones to make communication easier and, in this process, I've been checking on which carriers offer special plans for such users.
Apparently Sprint has a $29.99 a month plan that is data only, and unlimited data at that.
http://www.sprintrelaystore.com/data_only_plan.htm
Yes, it's intended for users who will be using their Relay service (to make voice calls by typing text etc.) But they don't restrict it to such purposes.
Interesting.
You can get a Moment or Hero on such a plan if you open a new line. Just thought I'd throw this out there and see what everyone thinks of it. Maybe some of our Sprint employees can explain more of how this plan works to us?

What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?

wirelessness said:
What would you do to make voice calls...exactly?
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In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.

It's funny I was chatting with sprint about this exact same. thing last night. If I could just figure out how to receive calls I will switch to this in a heartbeat. We only use about 400 of the 1500 minutes. And still pay for all of them it seems wasteful.

You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.

would skype work over the data connection?
Or is it the same as google voice where a voice call is still required?

Last i tried skype it was beta for android and it worked loke gvoice, not voip for us yet.

I'm pretty tied to GV and it requires a voice line. Would me nice to use SIP/VOIP if possible though.

skype-to-skype calling works with Fring, and it also has a SIP plugin, although I haven't tried it.

I read on another forum that some people get cheaper featurephones with cheap voice only plans and then get something like an SRDO plan with an Android handset.
Apparently they like separating out the functions... weird to me.

[Accidental double post. Sorry.]

GVoice forwards to Gizmo which can be setup as a the SIP provider in SIPDroid. The Guava project has something like this setup, I don't know much about it beyond its intent. I use SIP/Gizmo as a landline replacement at home via a GVoice number and it works beautifully. My tests with SIP on 3G/2G were less impressive, I don't think it's a "prime time" solution just yet.
In theory this is where cells will go eventually, a data connection and nothing more, no per-minute or per-transaction services, it will be more like an ISP. Data, text, chat, voice, apps, etc, will be delivered on the same pipe. We're practically there now. Add tethering to the mix and this could be the ONLY data pipe you need.

I have use the whole GV + Sipsorcery + sipdroid setup because I don't get reception at my house, so my I use my hero for wifi calls while at home. Most of the time, no one notices the difference. But I think it depends on how many people are using the internet in my area because sometimes there is a delay on the line, but a lot of other times there isn't. For some reason, it actually works better for me when I am using evdo instead of wifi. All of my friends have told me that I sound better while using sipdroid vs the sprint network. Kind of weird.
To that end, my friend brought his t-mobile android over. He is on their data only plan and since he lives in downtown St. Louis the he always has a data connection. So his bill is SUPER cheap by doing all of this and he is raving about it. He never turns his wifi on and uses the same setup as me. He claims he never has any problems, the only drawback being his battery drains faster now.
I wouldn't tell people to just start doing this though because I still encounter problems. Such as I my phone will only ring once and sometimes not at all. It is being routed through three services and like I said, there is a delay sometimes. But then again, sometimes I will go a whole week with it working PERFECTLY.
Maybe someone here might have some advice the proper setup to make this more stable for me. Otherwise I am going to pursue that airave device.

I'll point out again that Sprint's primary purpose in having the SRDO plans is for deaf or hearing impaired users who don't need voice service.
However, it is an interesting idea for those of us who like to tinker, too (=

afazel said:
You could go to voicestick.com and buy their $2.99/month pay-as-you-go minutes plan and set that account up with SIPDroid (or any SIP client really). I have the normal Everything data plan, but I also use that plan because I have that for my home phone.
If you use pbxes.org you can get a nice setup with a ring group, and the same number can ring your home phone, your cell phone (via the SIP client), and any number of things.
If anyone's interested, let me know once you have the right accounts and I'll help you with the setup.
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thanks

gomorrah said:
In theory, this might be refuted, you could use Google Voice.
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False. Google Voice does not include the capability--technologically or otherwise--to carry voice calls over either data or voice bands (...yet; i say "yet" because it seems only natural that a tech-conglomerate like Google might go this route in the future. They've annouced no such plans)
You could use Skype/Fring.

So, in theory:
I could open a new line with this on my old Diamond for ICS only?

I'm reviving an ancient thread here, but, as @flexgrip alluded to above, if you can get a gizmo5 account and a sipsorcery account, someone on a data-only plan can have 100% free voip using your Google Voice number.
You just need to forward your GV calls to gizmo5. Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, but what you can do is setup a sipsorcery account, and route your incoming calls from gizmo (free), but use google voice for your outgoing calls (also free). Now you just use your sipsorcery account as the sip provider in sipdroid. People you call will see your GV # as caller ID, and, of course, calls people place to your Google Voice number will be routed to you.
Gizmo5 accounts (no longer accepting new registrations) can be bought for less than $10 on ebay. Sipsorcery wasn't (temporarily) taking new registrations either the last I checked, but I'm guessing these can be had if you look in the right place as well.
Sipsorcery can have a bit of a learning curve, but there are ready-made tutorials on setting up gizmo5 + GV in sipsorcery online. It's a one-time setup.

Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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aven_soulgazer said:
Why do you need sipsorcery? It worked with just gv and gizmo5 last time I used it, right before google bought it. Did the change something up?
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Gizmo charges for outgoing calls, and plus they've disabled the service they used to have that lets you show a custom number (like your GV #) as your outgoing caller ID.
So unless you want to use voice minutes or go on the web for outgoing calls . . .
Sipsorcery allows you to create a singular sip account that receives the incoming GV>gizmo forward, while making outgoing calls directly from Google Voice (which, of course, is free and posts the same number for caller ID).
Unless there's a new way I'm not aware of, this was what I learned when I was obsessed with finding the cheapest way to make data calls a while back.

How to make free calls without using airtime or minutes on the N1.

Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.

Big_O said:
Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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I thought this was eliminated due to the recent update in GV?

As long as you know the incoming numbers and outgoing numbers for GV, nobody is going to stop you from adding them to the A-List.

But the point of the original was that you would add one number and be able to call that one number and reach anyone you wanted. But now its no difference then adding any number to an A-list, right?

The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Big_O said:
The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Yeah I know what you meant, but I though google broke this in the newest update.

They did.
This method is over a year old. Next time search the forum before posting your out-dated "discovery".

Technically they broke it only for Google Voice. What makes Android so special is that someone else created a program, one of which is called "Google Voice Callback" that lets those of us who have a Fav 5 list still call everyone for free using Google Voice, even with the update.
TL;DR The trick still works, just use a program like Google Voice Callback (FREE in the Market)

Vonage for Facebook is free voip.
www.androidappjudge.com has a link to their site (shameless site plug)

Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)

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Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't flaming. Just informing. Your post, on the other hand, was burning hot. Calm down, it's the internet.
kthanx

Paul22000 said:
10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack

yozpalang said:
if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
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But doesn't MagicJack cost money?

Paul22000 said:
But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
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Sorry my my bad but it is only $20 a year

Does this work in canada...
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Sip calling?
There is another way to do it without the myfaves if you use sipdroid or another program similar. You have to set yourself up with a sip number, which is free on a couple of sites (using sipgate currently).
Then set up your Google Voice callback, this lets you select whether you want to use the wifi(or 3g) calling. For incoming calls you can also force them to go to your free number.
I'm sure there are some good tutorials around if you need more info.

I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.

smachine said:
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
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This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)

Paul22000 said:
This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
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Glad this helped you out. I tried to explain each and every step so there was no room for error. I never ran into issues with wifi connections at home, starbucks, airports, hotels, but im guessing your work blocked alot of ports.

[Q] Wifi Voip with Droid?

First of all, I'm looking for a way to make and receive calls over wifi. The reason is that I need to save on minutes, and also that I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks very soon.
I am trying to make sure I have a wifi connection so that I can receive calls from the US with VOIP and wifi.
Secondarily, I'm looking for a service that will provide me cheap calls and texting from my Droid X to the Philippines while I am in the states.
I've been trying to find information on this, but it's very confusing. No I don't have Gizmo5, so that's no help.

darnieglover2 said:
First of all, I'm looking for a way to make and receive calls over wifi. The reason is that I need to save on minutes, and also that I will be out of the country for a couple of weeks very soon.
I am trying to make sure I have a wifi connection so that I can receive calls from the US with VOIP and wifi.
Secondarily, I'm looking for a service that will provide me cheap calls and texting from my Droid X to the Philippines while I am in the states.
I've been trying to find information on this, but it's very confusing. No I don't have Gizmo5, so that's no help.
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I have been tinkering with SipDroid and it appears to work pretty well. You will need some type of SIP termination to make calls.
There are a handleful of SIP clients in the marketplace, but you are going to have to get your hands dirty and learn about SIP to make this work.
Or just get a Skype account? Or Use Gizmo5 with a Sip client?

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I have been tinkering with SipDroid and it appears to work pretty well. You will need some type of SIP termination to make calls.
There are a handleful of SIP clients in the marketplace, but you are going to have to get your hands dirty and learn about SIP to make this work.
Or just get a Skype account? Or Use Gizmo5 with a Sip client?
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Skype doesn't work on wifi, Gizmo5 no longer accepting new accounts, this is the dead end I've been at for a week, before making this thread.
I am trying to figure out SIP, but am admittedly discouraged right now.

darnieglover2 said:
Skype doesn't work on wifi, Gizmo5 no longer accepting new accounts, this is the dead end I've been at for a week, before making this thread.
I am trying to figure out SIP, but am admittedly discouraged right now.
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Ahh. Sorry. I have my own asterisk (SIP) server. When I want to play with VoIP, I just create a new extension on that.
SipDroid evidently has some connection to pbxes.org and connects to that service pretty easily it looks like.
PBXes.orrg also has a basic free account to get you started. Looks like it allos 2000 minutes per month with a maximum call time of 60 minutes per call for free.
Might be worth giving it a shot.
You can also get service from a provider like vitelity or teliax pretty cheaply.

You can make calls through gmail now. Not tried it but might be an option for you.
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You can make calls through gmail now. Not tried it but might be an option for you.
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i'm in the same boat. about to travel to india and would love to ditch the calling card. i've been using gmail voip since wed. and have been pretty impressed as far as internet calling goes. my plan is use that when i'm out of the country.
anyone know if having an ip address in india will wig it out? i know the gmail call option is only for us customers right now.

I still only vaguely understand what PBXes.org does. None of this stuff is accessible.
Is there anyone who has a system that works, outside of the US, that allows you to receive wifi calls and does not involve gizmo5?
I don't mind learning something new here, but I don't have too much time, and I need it to be the right something.

I've played around with a lot of free Android SIP clients, and SIPDroid is definitely what you want. But in order to make calls to landlines in the US, you will need a SIP account that allows BYOD (Bring Your Own Device). That means you'll need to pay. Nobody will bridge SIP calls to real phones for free any more. BroadVoice is one choice.
As you see, none of this stuff is plug and play yet. You'll simply need to learn it. I recommend starting by getting a free SIP account at iptel.org, and set things up in SIPDroid to make some free Voip-Voip calls between devices, that way you'll learn.

Okay, for now, I can skip the complex stuff...
All I need is a way to make and receive calls from normal land and mobile US phones over wifi alone, when there is no signal... even when out of the country.
I have a PBX account, a sipgate account, and sipdroid, truphone, fring, and google voice on my Droid X.
I'm only just starting to get an idea of what does what.
I'm not looking for free necessarily, but I also can't invest a ton in this... I just want to be reachable for the next three weeks.

darnieglover2 said:
Okay, for now, I can skip the complex stuff...
All I need is a way to make and receive calls from normal land and mobile US phones over wifi alone, when there is no signal... even when out of the country.
I have a PBX account, a sipgate account, and sipdroid, truphone, fring, and google voice on my Droid X.
I'm only just starting to get an idea of what does what.
I'm not looking for free necessarily, but I also can't invest a ton in this... I just want to be reachable for the next three weeks.
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Sipgate should work - along with sipdroid.
You need to learn how to put your sipgate login credentials into Sipdroid (Proxy, user name, password)
Once you successfully have connected SipDroid to your SipGate account, anytime someone calls your Sipgate number it will ring on sipdroid (assuming you have sipdroid running.
I can probably help you if you'd like, it can be a little confusing .. but I think if you dig into the proxy and register server settings you'll get this figured out.
One more thing. Make sure wherever you are going has a good connection back to sipgate... just having wifi doesn't mean anything. A good connection (ping times less than 100 ms and plenty of bandwidth) will be the key factors.

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Sipgate should work - along with sipdroid.
You need to learn how to put your sipgate login credentials into Sipdroid (Proxy, user name, password)
Once you successfully have connected SipDroid to your SipGate account, anytime someone calls your Sipgate number it will ring on sipdroid (assuming you have sipdroid running.
I can probably help you if you'd like, it can be a little confusing .. but I think if you dig into the proxy and register server settings you'll get this figured out.
One more thing. Make sure wherever you are going has a good connection back to sipgate... just having wifi doesn't mean anything. A good connection (ping times less than 100 ms and plenty of bandwidth) will be the key factors.
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Thanks, I'm going to try this as my last ditch effort before I'm gone tomorrow... Any way to make my number the google voice number, or would that force me back to using 3G only?

Fyi, I used to have,well still do but don't use it much, my sipgate number forwarded to my google voice all setup through sipdroid,which is about the most consistent android sip client,which in turn allowed free calls (us atleast) over wifi & data. If you search xda for sipdroid or google for that matter you should find some good setup how to's.
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darnieglover2 said:
Thanks, I'm going to try this as my last ditch effort before I'm gone tomorrow... Any way to make my number the google voice number, or would that force me back to using 3G only?
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Fyi, I used to have,well still do but don't use it much, my sipgate number forwarded to my google voice all setup through sipdroid,which is about the most consistent android sip client,which in turn allowed free calls (us atleast) over wifi & data. If you search xda for sipdroid or google for that matter you should find some good setup how to's.
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Exactly. Have your G-Voice number call the Sipgate number.

The original how-to was in the G1 XDA development area I believe. SIPdroid and IPKall, along with Google Voice and Google Voice Callback should be all you need to get by. I have unlimited incoming and outgoing calls, as well as unlimited texting both ways. As far as out of country goes, I'm not sure what the deal is with that. But here are some links.
forum.xda-developers *DOT* com/showthread.php?t=548405
gurnted.wordpress *DOT* com/guides/
I actually had to use my G1 as a wifi only phone for over a year when I was broke and couldn't afford anything. It definitely was better than nothing, and without android I would have really been screwed. Hope this helps.

It's nice to have that option, as long as you have descent wifi. I also noticed sipgate was more reliable then gizmo, for me atleast, but if you want to get serious about it, set it all up through pbx or your own server.
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Skype on Archos 70

Anybody have any luck with using skype to make phone calls on the Archos 70? I have been thinking about switching off my phone data plan and getting a mifi hotspot instead and using my tablet to make phone calls or maybe just getting a cheap feature phone with no data (I rarely make calls).
I have Skype set up on the tablet but they want $16 or so to set up a phone number and the first three months etc and I don't want to put that out if it doesn't work the way I expect. I have been able to install it but without a phone number, I can't use it for much..

You can't use skype with sip providers afaik, so tough luck on that. May want to check about using sipdroid/ipkall?/pbxes/gv instead.

I have played a little with sipdroid and I can connect outside calls using my google voice number but I couldn't figure out how to make the tablet receive incoming calls.
I haven't been able to find a good noob step by step guide to getting it set up.

Instead of skyle, why don't you check an app called gvdialer, you can make free US Canada calls.
You will need google voice, gizmo5 or sip service and sipdroid.
I have been using it and it is working very good.

richdaley said:
I have played a little with sipdroid and I can connect outside calls using my google voice number but I couldn't figure out how to make the tablet receive incoming calls.
I haven't been able to find a good noob step by step guide to getting it set up.
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Sipdroid have some pbxes set up automation which you may want to explore before you do the following. Someone mentioned that pbxes can do google voice callback too (Which I saw was only for premium account, but he said its not.) Do tell if you got that working, which I would love to do (to cut sipsorcery from my chain)
Okay, here's a quick and easy method.
Step1: Register an ipkall number, add it to google voice. If it fail, delete the ipkall number and try again (maybe different ipkall area code) til it want to verify.
Step 2: This is an easy UDP method (but will run your battery out faster): sign up at sip2sip.info, and put in your sip2sip phone number/sip domain name(sip2sip.info) to the ipkall configuration page.
I recommend learning about pbxes and using it instead of sip2sip though. It's more powerful and allow tcp connection (sap less resource). but it never hurt to make it work with sip2sip first.
Step 3: Connect to sip2sip using sipdroid (you really only need the sip2sip.info domain name, sip address, password.
Step 4 (optional): Test by calling your ipkall number and see if it reach your phone
Step 5: Verify your ipkall number through google voice. (Use gizmo or skype or real phone or some tone generator if you need to emulate a proper tone sound)
Step 6: Get one of the available google voice callback dialer, and a dialer app like 'dialer one'.
You should be all set up. If it's not clear enough do mention it. I just wrote it on the spot, so...
I'm going through ipkall -> sipsorcery -> pbxes -> sipdroid right now myself.

Thanks for the info MoonPhatasm. Unfortunately, I am such a noob when it comes to the actual phone capabilities of these devices that I am lost. I have signed up for a sip2sip.info number and an ipkall number. I have google voice and sipdroid installed. Where do I go from here? When I try to add the number to google voice, I get a force close.

Ok, here is where I am...
I was able to create all the accounts and I finally found an ipkall number that was not rejected by Google voice. Right now, the number appears but it has to be called and a code has to be entered for it to be reclaimed. Since I don't have the phone working yet, I don't know if that is possible.
I have sipdroid installed and I entered the sip2sip.info username, proxy etc into it and the green light appears in the task bar. When I try to make an outgoing call, the screen comes up like it was going to make a call but then the slider automatically goes down and ends the call. I am also not able to connect an incoming call.
I had set up the quick connection between google voice and pbxes within sipdroid and I was able to make outgoing calls. I deleted that information though because I wasn't sure if it was relevant. If I can use it, I wrote it down so I could reenter it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I finally got this to work in the most simple way possible and it is awesome. All you need is sipdroid and the google voice app installed on your phone (and obviously a google voice account).
To set it up:
1. On a computer, open google voice, go to settings --> voice settings and check the checkbox next to Google Chat.
2. Open sipdroid and click on New PBX linked to my google voice (google voice needs to be installed and signed in on the phone)
3. A screen will come up for you to create your account. Your google voice email address should appear on this screen. Just fill in the other information.
4. Click Create
5. After a few minutes, a green dot will appear in the notification bar to indicate that sipdroid is active.
That's all I did.
If you don't have anyone around to call you for testing, you can use this site:
http://www.wheresmycellphone.com/
Rich

richdaley said:
Ok, here is where I am...
I was able to create all the accounts and I finally found an ipkall number that was not rejected by Google voice. Right now, the number appears but it has to be called and a code has to be entered for it to be reclaimed. Since I don't have the phone working yet, I don't know if that is possible.
I have sipdroid installed and I entered the sip2sip.info username, proxy etc into it and the green light appears in the task bar. When I try to make an outgoing call, the screen comes up like it was going to make a call but then the slider automatically goes down and ends the call. I am also not able to connect an incoming call.
I had set up the quick connection between google voice and pbxes within sipdroid and I was able to make outgoing calls. I deleted that information though because I wasn't sure if it was relevant. If I can use it, I wrote it down so I could reenter it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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You didn't follow everything.
First of all, the guide I wrote said to install gv callback dialer and dialerone. They're what you use to make outgoing calls. You may have to set the gv callback dialer to always be used for calling, and set your ipkall number there.
Secondly, verifying the ipkall phone number is on step 5, which is to be done AFTER you have the phone incoming call working (Tested by calling the ipkall number using another phone).
But interesting on that google voice/chat thing, and I'll have to check that.

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You didn't follow everything.
First of all, the guide I wrote said to install gv callback dialer and dialerone. They're what you use to make outgoing calls. You may have to set the gv callback dialer to always be used for calling, and set your ipkall number there.
Secondly, verifying the ipkall phone number is on step 5, which is to be done AFTER you have the phone incoming call working (Tested by calling the ipkall number using another phone).
But interesting on that google voice/chat thing, and I'll have to check that.
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Oops, I was trying to test the outgoing calls without setting up dialerone and then assuming something was broken when I actually had it set up correctly.
Either way, thanks for you help. My new "phone" is working awesome with GV, PBXes, and sipdroid.

Yw, and thanks for making me test out that automated set up again. I was suspecting that sipdroid users gets to make special accounts with google voice set up on the pbxes. It's confirmed now. That google voice peering is normally for paid users only... But for some reason with the automatic set up, we also get it...
Grats about the phone

anyone tried this apk on Archos?
villainrom.co.uk/SGS2/skype045.php

There is a new version on the Market as of today (or yesterday)? But it says
Video calling now supported on more Android phones. See the What’s New section for full handset list...
If you're using Android 2.2 (Froyo) or greater on a device not listed in the What's New section, you should still be able to enable video calling in Skype settings. Please note that video call quality may not be as good as on a certified device.
On Android 2.2 (Froyo), only the back camera will work. This is because only devices running Android OS 2.3 or higher allow apps to access the front facing camera.
If the setting to enable video calling is not available in the Skype Settings on your device that means video calling is not yet supported on your phone.
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I gave it a try with Archos 70, since it has no Rear camera to see, but still no joy. No video support at all.

there must be a way
at least we get the option. My commtiva m600 has 2 cameras but runs 2.1 so skype doesn't support it. We either need a genius developer or patience, I'm sure it won't be long.

The new Skype for android can only access the rear camera. So we would need to re-label it as such. Or Skype would need to recognize only on camera if only one exists regardless of label.
I know how to view hardware on my Archos, but changing the label so apps see it as the "rear" camera..... no clue yet.

Free Unlimited calling via Gizmo/G Voice

Has anyone tried using Gizmo/SIP in conjunction with 'google voice' and 'google voice call back' app? If you have myfaves on tmobile, you can get unlimited free calling using just google voice. However, if you dont have myfaves feature (like me ), there is a complicated or not so complicated workaround which can give u free unlimited calling on 3g.
so who has tried this and how was your experience?

sLiKK said:
there is a complicated or not so complicated workaround which can give u free unlimited calling on 3g.
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Instructions?
thanks

This thread here provides step by step instructions.

sLiKK said:
This thread here provides step by step instructions.
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That thread is outdated.
pbxes.org has direct peering with google voice. It's much, much easier to set up now.
I posted some instructions here
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/252222-google-voice-pbxes-org-sipdroid-free-calls.html
You just need google voice installed, then download sipdroid from the market and it pretty much sets everything up automatically from there.
Quick Summary of the directions.
Get a google voice number and install google voice app.
Install sipdroid (free in market)
Run sipdroid and click the link at the bottom that says new PBX linked to my google voice
Verify your google voice account email is correct and enter your google voice password below (yes, you are giving them your password). Enter your pbxes.org password below that (that's creating a new password, so it can be anything).
Click Configure or Save. I don't recall exactly what it says at that step.
You might need to go into google voice->voice settings->phones and make sure you have a google chat account there and that it's enabled for forwarding.
Make and Receive VoIP calls using sipdroid. When you make outbound calls, your google voice number will appear as the caller ID. With inbound calls, as long as you have google talk checked off as a forwarding number in google voice and you have sipdroid running, sipdroid will "ring" and you can answer the call over VoIP.
Call history will appear in Google Voice AND on pbxes.org (even if sipdroid isn't open).
You might also have to check off the 3g option if you want to to work on 3g as well as wifi.

get magicjack and you can run a software hack to get your sip info from your magicjack device, then you have unlimited calls over wifi and 3g for only 20 bucks a year.

proresearch said:
get magicjack and you can run a software hack to get your sip info from your magicjack device, then you have unlimited calls over wifi and 3g for only 20 bucks a year.
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Except that MagicJack is garbage.

I have used Gizmo with GV and it works pretty good. Also used Sipgate with GV and that works good as well. That is for people who doesn't have a Gizmo account. Just make sure that all your phonecalls are made with GV when dialing out.
Also you can use Gizmo or Sipgate in conjunction with Sipsorcery, and setup your homephone if you have a PAP2T-NA and you can get rid of your homephone. I think that is where the nice value is.

I beg to differ Magicjack calls were alot better than sipgate.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

So gizmo5 has been down for new user sign-up for over a year now. Unless someone knows something I don't in which case please share!

Whitehawkx said:
So gizmo5 has been down for new user sign-up for over a year now. Unless someone knows something I don't in which case please share!
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I've seen them on ebay. But, no point, really if you do it the updated way with GV and Sipdroid app.

Im trying to setup GV with sipdroid. I followed the steps. BUt The notification bar has a messege from sipdroid that says "[email protected]
Registration failed (404 not found)"
I tried making calls with sipdroid but its not working either. Also, the red dot in the notification bar is in red color ...does this mean sipdroid is not active or there is a problem with it?

lexluthor said:
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Verify your google voice account email is correct and enter your google voice password below (yes, you are giving them your password)
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I think this part makes this not worth it. Apart from your email, it has your Google Checkout which would make it easy for anyone to abuse it for purchases on the web. Even accepting that pbxes.org/sipdroid would never do it, if they get hacked, you are likely to be SOL. Avoidable.
If they could change the process to use OAUTH, it would be a lot safer.

Thanks lex! few quetions...
lexluthor said:
Call history will appear in Google Voice AND on pbxes.org (even if sipdroid isn't open).
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Where can I see the call log in pbxes.org?
lexluthor said:
You might also have to check off the 3g option if you want to to work on 3g as well as wifi.
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Where can I set this option?
I setup using the instructions posted by lexluthor, outbound calls work when using the sipdroid application, but i don't know if inbound calls are using minutes or not... I set a different ringtone for sipdroid but it rings my default ringer... any thought?

dalethefarmer said:
Thanks lex! few quetions...
Where can I see the call log in pbxes.org?
Where can I set this option?
I setup using the instructions posted by lexluthor, outbound calls work when using the sipdroid application, but i don't know if inbound calls are using minutes or not... I set a different ringtone for sipdroid but it rings my default ringer... any thought?
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log onto your account on https://www4.pbxes.com/ and click on 'call monitor' on the left. This will show the call log. I hope im right on this.
open your sipdroid app... go to settings > SIP Account > scroll down and check the box next to 'Use 3G'.
Not sure about ringtone... as my set up says 'registration failed'

lexluthor said:
I've seen them on ebay. But, no point, really if you do it the updated way with GV and Sipdroid app.
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Thanks for the tip. Yea I'm thinking gizmo5 will be available very soon again for free since the net neutrality laws just got passed. Gonna be interesting since cell phone companies will no longer be able to block competitors, including VOIP and tethering.

lexluthor said:
That thread is outdated.
pbxes.org has direct peering with google voice. It's much, much easier to set up now.
I posted some instructions here
http://androidforums.com/android-applications/252222-google-voice-pbxes-org-sipdroid-free-calls.html
You just need google voice installed, then download sipdroid from the market and it pretty much sets everything up automatically from there.
Quick Summary of the directions.
Get a google voice number and install google voice app.
Install sipdroid (free in market)
Run sipdroid and click the link at the bottom that says new PBX linked to my google voice
Verify your google voice account email is correct and enter your google voice password below (yes, you are giving them your password). Enter your pbxes.org password below that (that's creating a new password, so it can be anything).
Click Configure or Save. I don't recall exactly what it says at that step.
You might need to go into google voice->voice settings->phones and make sure you have a google chat account there and that it's enabled for forwarding.
Make and Receive VoIP calls using sipdroid. When you make outbound calls, your google voice number will appear as the caller ID. With inbound calls, as long as you have google talk checked off as a forwarding number in google voice and you have sipdroid running, sipdroid will "ring" and you can answer the call over VoIP.
Call history will appear in Google Voice AND on pbxes.org (even if sipdroid isn't open).
You might also have to check off the 3g option if you want to to work on 3g as well as wifi.
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This worked flawlessly
Thanks

How did you get it to work? Mine says registration failed (404 not found)
The notification bar has a messege from sipdroid that says "[email protected]
Registration failed (404 not found)".
I tried making calls with sipdroid but its not working either. Also, the red dot in the notification bar is in red color ...does this mean sipdroid is not active or there is a problem with it?

sLiKK said:
How did you get it to work? Mine says registration failed (404 not found)
The notification bar has a messege from sipdroid that says "[email protected]
Registration failed (404 not found)".
I tried making calls with sipdroid but its not working either. Also, the red dot in the notification bar is in red color ...does this mean sipdroid is not active or there is a problem with it?
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Did you try to use your username and password at the pbxes.org website? If that works then check the settings for sipdroid on your phone, the first SIP Account should be filled in with your username-200, the -200 might be different but that's what I have. You can check this number on the website and clicking on Extensions. Also, check the password. It should register.

[SOLVED]Your call cannot be completed as dialed
I have a green icon on the noti bar and it says registed, but when i make a call I get the operator: "Your call cannot be completed as dialed. please try your call again later"
Anyone knows whats going on or how can I fix it?
I resolved this....
Had to go into the pbxes.org site and go into Trunks>GTALK...>and set my real gmail password. I'm kind of wary about this but for free calls I'll do it. Now to delete all my google check out info

dalethefarmer said:
I have a green icon on the noti bar and it says registed, but when i make a call I get the operator: "Your call cannot be completed as dialed. please try your call again later"
Anyone knows whats going on or how can I fix it?
I resolved this....
Had to go into the pbxes.org site and go into Trunks>GTALK...>and set my real gmail password. I'm kind of wary about this but for free calls I'll do it. Now to delete all my google check out info
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Thanks. Everything was set up fine on my end except the user name on SIP line one...where I didn't have the '-200' after my login id. Once I fixed that, I got a green dot and made a couple of test calls and I think its working fine now.
Its horrible that we have to give our google pass to the pbxes website.... to be honest, its kinda scary..I also had to delete all my google checkout info. Hopefully, this safety issue will be addressed soon.
Just a question though: Will my call history and voice mails be saved in Google Talk inbox like it used to be before?
Figured it out: Call history does show up in google voice account.
A caveat: SIP Droid app has to be running to be able to make and receive calls on it. If you exit it, you wouldn't be able to receive or place calls using it.
I will be checking how much battery SipDroid consumes. Post your experiences!!!!