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Samsung Epic 4G GSM Version in Europe?

Hi,
does anybody have information about availability of this wonderful querty device in europe?

Considering what Samsung did with the Galaxy in Europe (what a crap!), I would be very upset to not see a GSM version.
Anyway i haven't heard nothing about a GSM version.
What i know is that Samsung did several version of the Galaxy S with different name.
And if I'm not mistaken, in Europe, is suspect that we will only see the Galaxy S, wich i hate.

velenox said:
Considering what Samsung did with the Galaxy in Europe (what a crap!)
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Ummm, what exactly?

Not sure where I saw it but in one of the reviews of the Epic 4G the author pointed out an empty fully functional SIM card slot next to the memory slot and pondered why it had the SIM slot.
Is it true that the shipping model will actually have that sim slot?

Knowing Sprint, it'll be the same situation we had with the PPC-6700... our phones will have a plastic sticker over an empty cavity where the CSIM slot is supposed to be, then after we've moved on someone will buy up Sprint's remaining stock for a pittance, pay workers to hand-solder CSIM sockets into them, and sell them in some other country for 10x as much money.
If my Epic4G arrives with a real CSIM card in it, I'll be celebrating for a year ;-)
For anyone who doesn't know, CSIM is the latest revision of R-UIM, which is itself a superset of GSM SIM. CSIM is also (an optional?) part of the USIM standard.

Um? Maybe? Its called a Galaxy S Pro. But no, you won't get the Epic 4G in Europe... Europe doesn't use Wimax... or CDMA... so this will be as useful as a phone as an ipod touch. You may get a varient which will look different (probably more like the original Galaxy S as I've seen mockups of that with a keyboard).

Umm if the Epic 4G doesn't get a variant (plz plz same specs) with a GSM module instead of CDMA it would be very stupid of Samsung.
It would make sense to do so since there are several variants and international versions of the Galaxy S, and this is like the head of the Galaxy S family.
But something tells me Samsung will not outs the Epic 4G with a GSM, and I wish to god that I'm wrong OR that Samsung will release it with the exact specs but without the 4G antennae .... which will also be very aweful considering that 4G will be available in the near-future in Australia (and there is proof for it like 3G prices are crashing).
I want my GSM Samsung Epic 4G here in Aust!!!!!

Yea I'm not really sure why people ask if they will get certain phones in Europe. Not that it doesn't happen but certain phones are made exclusive. That's why it's called the epic 4G!
That's why it's different from all the other galaxy s phones. if europe did get this it would be 4gless and just a galaxy s with a keyboard. but i highly doubt because they would of announced this already. would it be cool? sure but i highly doubt. not every phone can be duplicated. it's a reason for every device.

I'd say just give it some time. It should be out.
The Samsung Wave (Bada phone) had a slide out qwerty keyboard about 4-5 months after the candy bar style phone came out.

Is it worth the extra 500 US Dollars

to purchase the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 instead of the AT&T branded Samsung Captivate?

xhalz said:
to purchase the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 instead of the AT&T branded Samsung Captivate?
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I think it's more like $150-$200 difference without a contract.
With the Galaxy S you get a front-facing camera, as well as an unlocked phone without carrier logos plastered on the front - which alone might be worth it to many.
I also much prefer the large middle button on the Galaxy S, than the 4-button array on the carrier phones.

I understand the front facing camera and I much prefer the design of the I9000 but if I buy Captivate it will be with 2yr contract and I don't know if it is enough to justify the extra cash especially if I cannot upgrade to iPhone 4 and sell for profit.
If my Samsung Captivate is rooted the software on both devices will be the same correct?

xhalz said:
to purchase the Samsung Galaxy S I9000 instead of the AT&T branded Samsung Captivate?
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Do you live in an area with 1900mhz 3g coverage? If not, you will be able to use only edge with the i9000.
I bought the SGS for AT&T because of the front camera, no AT&T tampering, and I prefer the SGS look over the Captivate. Also, I don't live anywhere near 3g, so I'm okay with just edge. But it did cost me an arm and a leg.

Is there a map where I can see 850 mhz v 1900 mhz I found one but it is old

A map would be great.
In my part of Los Angeles, I get 3G/H on AT&T probably 70% of the time, the rest is E.

well I decided to purchase the Samsung Captivate, but would still like a map in case I decide to switch within 30 days

It might also be possible for you to get the dumb phone data plan if you have an international version of the Galaxy S because AT&T probably wouldn't have their IMEI numbers... But then again, I'm not 100% sure on how they do their sweeps so dont quote me on this

Afaik you won't be able to use custom roms, becouse of diffrences that captivate has. So yes its worth to pay more...
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where would one buy the unlocked international version?
Does it have all the features that are missing in different versions of this phone? Such as camera flash, front camera etc?
Bell Canada is getting this phone, but it won't have flash. Not sure what other differences it will have.

ogg1e said:
where would one buy the unlocked international version?
Does it have all the features that are missing in different versions of this phone? Such as camera flash, front camera etc?
Bell Canada is getting this phone, but it won't have flash. Not sure what other differences it will have.
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international version is the first version to come out and no it does not have camera flash, but it does have front camera. I got mine from ebay.

INeedYourHelp said:
international version is the first version to come out and no it does not have camera flash, but it does have front camera. I got mine from ebay.
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Is there a version of this phone that has all the features? Sounds like the Bell Canada one will be the same as the international one.

Most importantly, the international model is 900/2100 mhz only while at&t is 850/2100 mhz. So big difference in radios
Sent back in time from my Samsung Galaxy SSS

Is this Vibrant the same as Bell's?

Just wondering if this T Mobile Vibrant is the same as far as rooting and flashing goes as the version Bell will be launching soon in Canada?
Thanks

Bump, anyone know?

To my knowledge, no it isn't. It seems like it will be the same (or atleast look the same) as the euro galaxy S

biggest consideration is to check what frequencies your carrier uses ie is it GSM or CDMA, and for 3g Data what freqs
the tmobile is GSM and for 3G Tmo uses the AWS IV band, ie 1700/2100, and it has to be both of those if you were bringing a european phone here to the USA to use on tmobile - tmobile europe only uses 2100 for 3G, no 1700
as the 2100 is the download side i figured i could live without 3g upload speed but just before pulling the trigger on a european tmobile HTC Desire i found out that if the phone didn't have both sides, ie both 1700 for upload and 2100 for download, tmo's network would hold the phone to 2G or EDGE data speeds
so best bet is to first identify Bell's freqs - and you can do that on the web -
hope that helps some

Thanks, Bell's network is 850/1900. Same as AT&T but it doesn't look anything like the Captivate. Too many models of the same phone... too confusing...

I wouldn't be concerned with looks, in fact to me (i own a vibrant) i like the captivate case better - that report endgadget.com had on the two (vibrant/captivate) liked the way the captivate's case released in the back
the vibrant you have to pop the caseback with your fingernail - its secure but kind of a chintzy way to do it, especially when the capitvate has a nice pull and release mechanism
and the rear surface has some texture for a little better grip

A Dustman said:
Thanks, Bell's network is 850/1900. Same as AT&T but it doesn't look anything like the Captivate. Too many models of the same phone... too confusing...
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My guess is the standard Galaxy S form factor is a little too much like the iPhone for AT&T's taste, so they wanted one that looks different. They don't want to piss off Apple, their goose that lays the golden eggs.
Sent from my Samsung Vibrant

I've got my crystal ball tuned up...
Bell gets a unit that looks exactly like the US T-Mobile Vibrant, otherwise they wouldn't have called it that. With the AWS/2100 replaced with 850/1900, and same as the T-Mo, no FFC. Bell gets the first Canadian unit, so they got that going on for "cool factor". I'm like 95.9% sure of this.
Based on the posters for the launch party, Telus gets an GSM Epic. That makes a lot of sense, especially since they're releasing the LCD Desire very shortly...the thicker, less sleek Epic would not be in the same category, and they wouldn't have went to the expense of getting the Desire if they were getting regular non-keyboard Galaxy S variant, and vice versa. I'm about 75% sure of this.
A Telus Epic would also make a great replacement for the aging Milestone, which is now out of production, with the GSM Milestone 2 probably still months off.
Rogers gets an unknown unit. I'd lean towards them getting the Captivate style, except for the whole AT&T exclusive lock on the unit, September release of the same unit that works on the same bands seems a little soon for AT&T to give up on the exclusivity costs.
But Rogers needs something to bring to the table that's different than Bell or Telus, so they may get a GSM Fascinate (complete with camera flash). The timing matches the Verizon release window as well, and both may be waiting on Samsung to get these into full production. They may also get the Euro model complete with FFC and big home button, Rogers has a history of supporting video calling. Whatever version they release, it will most likely ship with Froyo in the box.
To confuse the Rogers matter more, the rumor in the SIM unlocking circles is that the AT&T Captivate codes won't be available until October. If Rogers ships a Captivate version of it in September, with the same name, then AT&T will start releasing SIM codes to those that ask, because it's no longer exclusivity-locked.
I'm 33% on each of the Rogers options (Captivate, Fascinate, "pure" Galaxy S)
But it's all guesswork.

That's a pretty interesting theory you have there, and it makes sense too.
Has anyone gotten any of these Galaxy S models sim unlocked yet?

Croak said:
I've got my crystal ball tuned up...
Bell gets a unit that looks exactly like the US T-Mobile Vibrant, otherwise they wouldn't have called it that. With the AWS/2100 replaced with 850/1900, and same as the T-Mo, no FFC. Bell gets the first Canadian unit, so they got that going on for "cool factor". I'm like 95.9% sure of this.
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This is the only part of your comment that I think I will argue with. I think the bell version will look identical to the european one. Why do I think so? Two reasons my dear watson,
A.) www . youtube.com/watch?=8QSl8FyhjJE&feature=player_embedded
This video which I believe is correct. (and I think I saw another video that was just a hands on in a small room filled with guys in suits and the one reviewer.
B.) The Samsung Canada page for this device: www . samsung.com/ca/consumer/mobile/mobile-phones/all-phones/GT-I9000HKABMC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=
P.S. I've also heard of rumours of Rogers coming out with a galaxy S device, and Furthermore, supposedly the release date for the Bell Galaxy S will be August 6th

Main difference between the Euro & US SGS

Since I live in Sweden, what is the main difference with the Vibrant, Capacitive and Euro versions of the SGS?

The actual Galaxy S, the i9000, is the version used everywhere except for the U.S. and Canada. Carriers there decided they wanted variations of the device and a removal of some features. Namely the front-facing camera.
The Vibrant for T-Mobile US has no front facing camera, and uses 4 touch sensitive keys at the bottom instead of the home button with two touch keys.
The Captivate for AT&T US has no front facing camera, also uses 4 touch sensitive keys in lieu of the i9000 configuration, but has a different body design.
The Epic 4G for Sprint US is basically the Vibrant with a slide out keyboard and the front-facing camera put back in, plus a 4G radio.
The "Galaxy S Captivate" for Rogers Canada is identical to the AT&T US version.
Bell Wireless Canada released the normal Galaxy S (i9000) but called it the Galaxy S Vibrant for some bizarre reason (even though it is not the T-Mobile US version).
All of the phones run their own firmware for that specific variation (except perhaps the Bell Wireless one as it is the international variation. Not sure though).

Thank you for that detail description. I wonder why some countires do not want the front facing camera. Rediculous, really. Oh well. That means Sweden as a front facing camera. At least I think so. I gotta check it out. I didn't think about it when I ordered it.

because the USA phone networks wants to make another product shine
in this case iphone4
advertized as the revolutionary phone with the only front facing conversation

Revolutionery it is not. Nokia as had this on their phones long before the Iphone.

There's a new T959 on the block

Just picked up a Telus "Fascinate", not to be confused with the Verizon Fascinate.
It is actually very much like the T-Mobile Vibrant(model number variant an all), not to be confused with the Bell Vibrant. Confused yet? Me too.
So, it's the T959D, four capacitive buttons, no FFC, has a totally black bezel (instead black chrome). The bezel is, well, identical to the bezel on the Verizon Fascinate, probably the same part. Actually makes the phone look really good. I bought this as replacement for my Bell I9000M that had internal SD card failure, and this looks better thanks to that bezel, I never liked the chrome. Do miss the physical home button already, though.
Rest of the phone is pretty much I9000 standard, backplate and all. And of course, it works on 850/1900 UMTS, not the T-Mobile AWS frequencies.
I do fear for the future of this orphan device's firmware. Mine is 2.1, running TLJJ2 baseband and PDA.
No Telus bloatware at ALL on it. Zip, nada, zilch, this is pure Samsung, not even a copy of Avatar.