Setcpu vs Juicedefender - XPERIA X10 General

Hey guys which app u guys think saves alot of battery let us know. And what are the settings u guys are using? To make battery life longer.
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the_ahmadzais said:
Hey guys which app u guys think saves alot of battery let us know. And what are the settings u guys are using? To make battery life longer.
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I use JuiceDefender. It does more than just set the CPU. And I keep the screen brightness low.
SetCPU works only if your phone is rooted, I guess. JuiceDefender is able to work *some* magic on any Android phone, rooted or not
--Tim

I use them both, on default settings and find it really helps my battery. My only slight complaint would be the time it takes for 3G to become active when I unlock the screen

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I use them both, on default settings and find it really helps my battery. My only slight complaint would be the time it takes for 3G to become active when I unlock the screen
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Is that maybe because you have "Prefer Wi-Fi" set in the APN setup? Mines comes on immediately - I'm using JuiceDefender in advanced mode.
I use both too - they do diff things, so hopefully combining them results in more savings.
I've set SetCPU to scale the CPU based on battery remaining, Temperature and Screen Off - seems to work well for me.
Never really tried experimenting with disabling these programs to compare how effective they are.

Personally I find juice defender makes a huge difference. I simply have it switch off the data connection when the screen is off, unless it is on charge.
Not sure how much of a difference setcpu will make.
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i'm using setcpu. got it set to max for both the minimum and maximum spot and the set to as low as possible for both for when the screen is off. works heaps good for me. and makes the phone speedier when you're using it too.

I turned off Juice Defender, my battery life in still solid and completely unchanged.

I am aslo aware of the battery life is still good as before I turn of the Juicedefender. It could be SE already did something for the last update (R26)

Juice defender makes a huge difference for me, that I have already tested. Works fine on my setup.
Have had setcpu for a while, not entirely sure if it makes any difference for me.
How does android 1.6 handle cpu speed when left alone?
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Android handles that quite well. I uninstalled both of them and have no faster battery drain than while using these apps. Actually it feels like battery lasts longer, but i didn't really test ;-)
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So how to use juicedefender ? Is it easy ? Should I keep the setcpu? Or uninstall it and if ihave both how do I setup them up together.
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I get three days of life without Juice Defender = the same as with it on. I feel it's worthless. It's easy just download and turn on/off the features you want.

Setcpu makes things worse for me for some reason. I used 15% battery in 2 hours just on standby.
I guess alot of it is down to how you use your phone.
As far as juice defender goes, I just use it to kill the data connection when screen is off.
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Hello. Tdy smthn vry unusual happened. I fully chrged my phone like 5 hours ago. . Nd with normal, actually less thn normal usage its nw at 13% :0 I mean wth..
I dnt knw wts hppn to my phone. Nd it lags a lot. Help
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Bloody hell mate if you want help at least type in English.
You probably have a misbehaving app, have you installed our changed anything recently?
Try a task manager or similar to see what is running etc and to kill and eliminate apps.
Having the decency to type in a manner that allows reading is a must here my friend.
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+1 on the whole typing using complete words point.. spectacularly lazy. and Laziness doesn't inspire help..
But yes - probably a dodgy app.. or a weak signal (local transmitter problem).. can kill your phone as quick as anything else!
I use a combination of Autokiller (never kill tasks yourself), SetCPU and Watchdog lite (Email app on X10's is a major culprit and goes over 80% CPU usage occasionally) to manage battery life. I easily get 2 days with decent amount of surfing and calling. Although if I used Juicedefender I'd get even better battery life but I like to keep 3G on since I get quite a bit of MMS.
I had a simar problem today. My battery was on 74%, the fone randomly froze. I turned off the fone from the power button turned it back on and i was down to something like 56% weird
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mackdaddy187 said:
I use a combination of Autokiller (never kill tasks yourself), SetCPU and Watchdog lite (Email app on X10's is a major culprit and goes over 80% CPU usage occasionally) to manage battery life. I easily get 2 days with decent amount of surfing and calling. Although if I used Juicedefender I'd get even better battery life but I like to keep 3G on since I get quite a bit of MMS.
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what does juicedefender exactly does? turn off 3g? is data on demand the same as juicedefender? and can u share ur setcpu profile?
the_ahmadzais said:
what does juicedefender exactly does? turn off 3g? is data on demand the same as juicedefender? and can u share ur setcpu profile?
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You can use juicedefender to regulate when to turn on/off 3G/Wifi. For example when screen shuts off or when you turn on the screen, maybe keep it turned off below a certain percentage of battery, etc.
As for SetCPU, I use fairly liberal settings:
Scaling is always on demand and priority is always 50.
Charge AC/Full --> 998 / 245
Charge USB/Full --> 998 / 245
Screen OFf --> 384 / 245
Battery < 10% --> 245 / 245
To save even more battery you can set your profiles to conservative, etc.
I had the same issue when I started using desktop visualizer. Battery went from 3 days to one.
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mackdaddy187 said:
I use a combination of Autokiller (never kill tasks yourself), SetCPU and Watchdog lite (Email app on X10's is a major culprit and goes over 80% CPU usage occasionally) to manage battery life. I easily get 2 days with decent amount of surfing and calling. Although if I used Juicedefender I'd get even better battery life but I like to keep 3G on since I get quite a bit of MMS.
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aaah the email app eh? Thanks I'm going to take it off the ignore list and see if it improves things
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Tasteslikeawesome said:
I had the same issue when I started using desktop visualizer. Battery went from 3 days to one.
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Same here...
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PollPixx said:
Same here...
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curious_yellow_eyes said:
aaah the email app eh? Thanks I'm going to take it off the ignore list and see if it improves things
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Tasteslikeawesome said:
I had the same issue when I started using desktop visualizer. Battery went from 3 days to one.
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mackdaddy187 said:
You can use juicedefender to regulate when to turn on/off 3G/Wifi. For example when screen shuts off or when you turn on the screen, maybe keep it turned off below a certain percentage of battery, etc.
As for SetCPU, I use fairly liberal settings:
Scaling is always on demand and priority is always 50.
Charge AC/Full --> 998 / 245
Charge USB/Full --> 998 / 245
Screen OFf --> 384 / 245
Battery < 10% --> 245 / 245
To save even more battery you can set your profiles to conservative, etc.
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the_ahmadzais said:
what does juicedefender exactly does? turn off 3g? is data on demand the same as juicedefender? and can u share ur setcpu profile?
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rkanwar said:
I had a simar problem today. My battery was on 74%, the fone randomly froze. I turned off the fone from the power button turned it back on and i was down to something like 56% weird
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mackdaddy187 said:
I use a combination of Autokiller (never kill tasks yourself), SetCPU and Watchdog lite (Email app on X10's is a major culprit and goes over 80% CPU usage occasionally) to manage battery life. I easily get 2 days with decent amount of surfing and calling. Although if I used Juicedefender I'd get even better battery life but I like to keep 3G on since I get quite a bit of MMS.
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im_iceman said:
+1 on the whole typing using complete words point.. spectacularly lazy. and Laziness doesn't inspire help..
But yes - probably a dodgy app.. or a weak signal (local transmitter problem).. can kill your phone as quick as anything else!
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Lord Takyon said:
Bloody hell mate if you want help at least type in English.
You probably have a misbehaving app, have you installed our changed anything recently?
Try a task manager or similar to see what is running etc and to kill and eliminate apps.
Having the decency to type in a manner that allows reading is a must here my friend.
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momerbk said:
Hello. Tdy smthn vry unusual happened. I fully chrged my phone like 5 hours ago. . Nd with normal, actually less thn normal usage its nw at 13% :0 I mean wth..
I dnt knw wts hppn to my phone. Nd it lags a lot. Help
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hello everyone
first of all i would like to apologize from all of you for typing that way. the reason for typing like that is my x10 is lagging a lot so i have to type like that so i could type a bit fast. :/
anyways... other problem im having is my x10 isnt charging properly. i plugged my x10 for charging at like 2 am.. and took off at 2 pm after i cam back from school! :s
and the battery was still at 75%
and it was warm (the phone)
i knw i shldnt hav over charged but still...
and all the battery was drained by 8 pm.
i really need your help people..
im worried.. why is this happening?
try deleting all applications and test your phone without using any 3g and wifi to chk if its a manufacturing fault. if it runs around two days without any 3g and wifi and applications your phone is good. and then just be carefull in installing applications. this is the best way to check it.

Battery

I was wondering how I could extend that battery life on my DINC? Any suggestions and tips would be great.
Ah yes, the battery issue. One I am all too familiar with.
Easy:
For whatever reason our phones charge to 90% and stop there. To correct this, you can either charge while the phone is off or do what we call a bump charge. Bump charging involves charging the phone to "full" while its on (the light should be green) and then turning it off while still plugged in. The light will then change to orange again for 30+ minutes and then green again. You will then Really be fully charged.
Also make sure you have GPS and Bluetooth off when you aren't using them. This will help a ton.
There is an option in Settings - Wireless & networks - mobile networks - called "enable always on mobile data". Unchecking this will drastically help save while the phone is asleep on the 3g network. However, doing this will affect how often you receive updates to chats and sync items when the phone is sleeping. To me it isn't a big deal since if I'm not using the phone why should it be working, but everyone is different!
Finally, a rogue app might be nomming away at your battery. An app from the market called System Panel will monitor how much battery each app is eating. Its free initially but if you want it to monitor over time in the background it does cost. However it is definitely worth it since its a great app and useful for any android owner.
Intermediate (has cost):
Evo batteries fit in our phones! The fit is a little tight but it works just fine. Our stock batteries have 1300mah of capacity which is a bit on the low side. The evo battery has 1500, so it's an hour or so better. You can buy them cheap off ebay (OEM Evo Battery) for around $15.
Conversely, there is the official extended capacity battery for our incredibles with a massive 2150mah. The trade off is that it adds bulk to your phone and costs a lot (around $50). There is the third party seidio battery which adds even more capacity (3500) but adds even more bulk.
Advanced:
Are you rooted? There are kernels out there that are undervolted like Hydra kernel, adrynalyne's undervolted and kingklick's voltage scaling kernel. Everyone has differing experiences with them so there's not a solid "best" so to speak. You can flash these kernels using the clockworkmod recovery. This will all be nonsensical if you're not into the Modding scene.
Also if rooted, you can underclock the processor which, depending on the kernel, can help drastically save battery. You can set profiles to have the cpu work at a minimum speed while the screen is off. Kingklick doesn't advise using setcpu with his kernels and it straight up wont work with hydra's, but it can do wonders on any others.
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Depending on your activity, you should expect 4-5 hours of 3g awake usage and around 5-6 if you're mostly on wifi using the stock battery. 3g can be a battery drain if you're in an are with inadequate service.
Hope this helps!
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turning off gps doesn't matter all that much. GPS isn't called upon unless you have an app using it. I have mine on most of the day (for tasker profiles) and have no issue.
Use WiFi when available, its quicker than 3g and takes less battery.
download setCPU (from xda) and make a profile for screen off max/min = 400/245 or something like that.
i have 'always on data' checked, no issues for me
kernels help a ton, kk#5 is a beast.
I'm running uncommon sense, kk#5 and the above settings. I'm on 20 hours unplugged with 35% less, standard usage. -- not bump charged, charged while on to 100%
isn't the system panel app like a task killer? and from what i've read task killers are pretty pointless with froyo......however i have noticed that my phone is constantly running with about 140mb of ram free, i don't know if this is usual or if something is wrong?? i just got my Dinc so i'm new to all the tweeks and tricks, i do have mine rooted though. i'm not that up on changing roms and kernals though so i'm just trying to find out what all i can do to help my battery without having to buy a bigger one. any help would be greatly appreciated!!
If you are rooted and aren't comfortable with flashing ROMs and kernels, look at setcpu that was mentioned before, and search for instructions to remove the stock apps that always startup on their own in the background. Unless you actually use them, then you can't really do that obviously. I don't have any times on how long it lasted before and how long it last now but I do know its improved. I have mine at a processor clock speed of 500mhz and I don't see much lag time unless I'm really running a lot of things. I'm on WiFi listening to Pandora and I'm not experiencing keyboard lag while typing this.
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is there any risk to my phone from running setcpu ? i JUST got it and really don't want to break it already!! hahaha
trembly01 said:
is there any risk to my phone from running setcpu ? i JUST got it and really don't want to break it already!! hahaha
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no...the max it'll run is 1.19 ghz. worst that will happen is a bootloop which can be fixed through nandroid.
Just increment a little at a time. I usually run mine at 1.075 ghz w/ on demand.
screen off profile max/min - 450/245
I use JuiceDefender on my Incredible and believe it or not it really works. It's turns off your data while the phone is on sleep mode so no battery is being drained. I get at least 5 hours extra battery life. You also get other features that come along with it so just give it a try It's free!
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trembly01 said:
isn't the system panel app like a task killer? and from what i've read task killers are pretty pointless with froyo......however i have noticed that my phone is constantly running with about 140mb of ram free, i don't know if this is usual or if something is wrong?? i just got my Dinc so i'm new to all the tweeks and tricks, i do have mine rooted though. i'm not that up on changing roms and kernals though so i'm just trying to find out what all i can do to help my battery without having to buy a bigger one. any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Yes system panel CAN be a task killer but I do not suggest using it as such. Instead, it does a great job monitoring how much CPU each app uses so you can take educated action.
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turning off gps doesn't matter all that much. GPS isn't called upon unless you have an app using it. I have mine on most of the day (for tasker profiles) and have no issue.
Use WiFi when available, its quicker than 3g and takes less battery.
download setCPU (from xda) and make a profile for screen off max/min = 400/245 or something like that.
i have 'always on data' checked, no issues for me
kernels help a ton, kk#5 is a beast.
I'm running uncommon sense, kk#5 and the above settings. I'm on 20 hours unplugged with 35% less, standard usage. -- not bump charged, charged while on to 100%
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1. If you use location based services and have GPS on, it will use the GPS module quite a bit. This is certainly a battery drain.
2. If you dont have any issues with always on mobile data then you must be in an area with good coverage. For me if its left on it drains my battery quite a bit because I'm in a flaky coverage area.
Everyone's phone is different though. Finding what works and what doesn't is the first step to perfection. I just installed the new skyraider sense and my battery life has been ultra fantastic. It works great for me, but I know others dont have that success.
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Juicedefender

Anyone using this. It is from the market and it is suppose to help your battery life. I just installed it this morning. Seems a little better. I am at 62 percent without putting onvthe charger all day. I am using default settings on a stock Rom with root. 4g is off.
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Change it to every 15 minutes for even better life... I used to use it but wont work with push notifications so I took it off
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i used to use it but recent kernels have made it totally unnecessary.
I enjoy no longer needing to use setcpu and juicedefender in order to get decent battery life.
I like to use it with ultimate juice. If you throw setcpu in the mix, you can play on your phone all day.
I use UltimateJuice! plus JuiceDefender Battery, but I never tested it with SetCPU, I thought those two programs would conflict the programs together in a bad way?
deathsled said:
i used to use it but recent kernels have made it totally unnecessary.
I enjoy no longer needing to use setcpu and juicedefender in order to get decent battery life.
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++++oneeeeeeee
Juicedefender works wonderfully, it cuts off unnecessary data and the kernels work great for cpu speed.. don't use setcpu if your using a kernel because it will contradict speeds!
It's a great app that does what it's supposed to but as stated before, it is no longer necessary. I get longer life now without it than I did in the past with it. Kernels have come a long way.
I still use it in conjunction with the new kernel. I dont use setCPU or anything like that , but even with the newest kernels saving alot of battery life - I still save even more with JD because you can set the data to only operate for a certain time and all that - I just checked my phone and my battery life is 2.41X - the most I have ever gotten before the new kernel was 2.10X - but that was with about a week of tweaking and setting the app controls to a perfect state... I would avg 1.80X but 2.10X was the most i got before now...
i am still loving the stock rom on this baby. i will eventually start flashing but for now i am still in love with the original software. i have rooted and uninstalled some of the bloatware but that is as far as i have gone.

[Q] Increase Battery Life Apps work or not?

Juice Defender, Adv Task Killer, etc
Do you use them or not? Do they work or not? I have heard it both ways? What’s your guys opinions?
I know you can turn down screen brightness and turn off setting to get better battery life wifi, email checking, syncing, etc. OR just turn the phone and get great battery life
I say you got this amazing phone so use it.
Task killers are bad. Juice defender can work, but turning off your radio
can cause some wake lock issues with certain apps when they can't connect
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I say you got this amazing phone so use it.
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^ Agreed. I keep my screen brightness all the way up because it looks the best and everything synced because what's the point of a smartphone w/o instant notifications? GPS stays on too. If on 3G I can easily get 14hrs out of a charge and on wifi 20+.
EDIT: And I can't stop fidgeting with the damn thing. I'd probably get better battery if I didn't turn the screen on every couple minutes.
^ Shift Faced
Juice defender works amazingly.
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In my experience. They don't.
I get the same/better battery life then I was using JuiceDefender.
I ran 1 week with Juice Defender and 1 week without, making sure to use the same amount of usage each day to test my theory. And it came out to about even with not using a program a slight edge.

[Q] my battery is still draining fast after rooting! help please?

hi guys, i'm a newbie when it comes to rooting and stuff
i reduced all my lcd settings (display is only at 10%, removed animations, etc), turned off unecessary apps (wifi, etc) and i'm using setCPU (so i could downgrade my cpu speed) after i learned how to root here with the ff settings:
cpu range 200-500 mHz, conservative.
my phone still seems to be draining fast. i'm not watching vids or playing games.
can anyone help me or give me tips which overclock actually worked for their S2?
i was hoping my battery would last about a day.
thanks!
Suggestions: restore your cpu settings to normal to establish a base line. Then download Osmonitor and see if any application is hogging your cpu. If not, then, in recovery wipe Dalvik cache (not anything else!).
You don't say what rom you are on but assuming you are not watching video files all day, you should get a full day easily.
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Is your device connected to an exchange account ?
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Root has nothing to with battery life directly, but you can use T.B Pro to freeze some garbage apps always.
Besides you can't get any benefit from using SetCPU? LOL. Well I don't wanna a debate here, but that damn app will not do any useful thing other than mental satisfaction.
And you stop any app which is set as Automatic refresh in an specified interval, run as low as Widgets possible, Turn Off WiFi and Packet Data when not needed, and try to use Juice Defender which is doing a great job on mine.
Regards.
thank you for the replies
@tangiers: can osmonitor also freeze useless apps? or it just merely monitors your phone?
@jimhaddon: what is an exchange account? i don't think i set-up anything like that while i was tinkering with my phone.
@ithehappy: i think i'm only getting the mental satisfaction from setCPU like you were saying
ithehappy said:
Root has nothing to with battery life directly, but you can use T.B Pro to freeze some garbage apps always.
Besides you can't get any benefit from using SetCPU? LOL. Well I don't wanna a debate here, but that damn app will not do any useful thing other than mental satisfaction.
And you stop any app which is set as Automatic refresh in an specified interval, run as low as Widgets possible, Turn Off WiFi and Packet Data when not needed, and try to use Juice Defender which is doing a great job on mine.
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I beg to differ. After I isntalled SetCPU and Underclocked/Undervolted my CPU I found that my battery life increased quite a bit and was no longer experiencing battery heating.
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I beg to differ. After I isntalled SetCPU and Underclocked/Undervolted my CPU I found that my battery life increased quite a bit and was no longer experiencing battery heating.
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ROOT has nothing to do with battery life END >>>but it did enable you to use SetCPU .
jje
I9100 CPU is smart enough to change it's state when needed, you don't need an additional 2US$ software for that, when will people agree this fact? Anyway, why shall I care!
I'm also in the camp that thinks setcpu is a myth for saving battery. The cpu already scales up and down as needed stock. At idle the cpu sits at 250 mhz.
SetCPU
I found out that setCpu actually drained my battery faster, so just uninstall it.
See if it gets better.
My battery drains too.
Solved that problem by charging overnight.
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There are many factors that's can cause battery drain, wakelocks, signal strength, method of data wifi or 3g, display etc etc
You could have a rouge app that is keeping your phone awake, download betterbatterystats and check for partial wakelocks.
Signal strength can be a factor, see your current signal strength and then change the modem to see if this reduces.
No need to tinker with setcpu, you can underclock if you wish but generally leaving it on stock is fine.
Most importantly enjoy the phone don't get to obsessive with trying to save every ounce of battery its a smartphone at the end of the day otherwise we'd be carrying Nokia 3310s with us, and remember you can always charge nightly!
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Things that drain the battery :
Gps
Bluetooth
Wifi
Life wallpapers
Display brightness
Display time up setting
Try to configure them and see how much you can squeeze that .
Check on setup battery the top ranking of battery usage.
This is mibe so you can compare :
Regards.
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See my screen time above. I feel its pretty good. 6hrs+
I underclocked to 800mhz, auto brightness, ICS stock rom with the famous KH3 modem. The phone looses 2% over 8hrs of deep sleep. I think thats awesome. My phone lasts for at least 13hrs. (I charge it overnight and take it out @ 6am and use it till 11pm.)
Off topic: I was using my dad's iPhone 4 for a while and the battery life is amazing. But I still hate iphone.
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poch_1421 said:
hi guys, i'm a newbie when it comes to rooting and stuff
i reduced all my lcd settings (display is only at 10%, removed animations, etc), turned off unecessary apps (wifi, etc) and i'm using setCPU (so i could downgrade my cpu speed) after i learned how to root here with the ff settings:
cpu range 200-500 mHz, conservative.
my phone still seems to be draining fast. i'm not watching vids or playing games.
can anyone help me or give me tips which overclock actually worked for their S2?
i was hoping my battery would last about a day.
thanks!
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since you are rooted, try flashing jeeboo kernel
other tips, if you are not using Google Now disable it, freeze samsung push service, settings -> wifi -> advanced -> network notifications - uncheck.

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