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cant post the link but the news is on android police
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
fixxxer2008 said:
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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when was the launch day released or confirmed ?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ve-an-unlocked-bootloader-one-way-or-another/
Man. I can't express enough how happy I am with HTC. If this decision holds, and it looks likely, I doubt I'll ever buy another brand. I love Sense but, I love being able to customize and personalize Sense ...
MAJOR Kudos to HTC!
fixxxer2008 said:
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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via OTA update when phone is activated . . .
SteveGrandRapids said:
via OTA update when phone is activated . . .
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Don't feed the troll, seriously.
Always been an htc fan since the htc touch vogue. All this just shows they're a customer first company. Bout the only one I can actually think of. Hell you cant even get a burger and fries anymore without running into company haggles.
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fixxxer2008 said:
how could it be since the phone are ready to ship? wouldn't this delay the launch? the more acceptable thing to do would be to give the devs instructions or fix it via an OTA.
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Why does the person with the nexus keep trolling the evo forums?
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I'm lovin it... was kind of surprised that they listened
please don't like HTC more than before, realize that they were going to do something that you didn't like/want and then changed their mind, I disrespect them for that, I will purchase their products but they still get a red mark in my satisfaction book
NewZJ said:
please don't like HTC more than before, realize that they were going to do something that you didn't like/want and then changed their mind, I disrespect them for that, I will purchase their products but they still get a red mark in my satisfaction book
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Oh turn your frown upside down
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Since their unlocking the bootloader does this mean NAND and everything is unlocked liked the OG Evo?
shouldn't this be in the 3D forum? besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
alaman68 said:
shouldn't this be in the 3D forum? besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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Thanks. A bootloader conspiracy you say?...
Take the BLUE PILL.
alaman68 said:
besides, they knew from the beginning what they were going to do. They probably just wanted to see how many people actually cared, and they got more publicity from you clowns who are now singing their praises
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No.
The Sensation has the same encryption and that was released, with the encryption, 8 days ago.
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No.
The Sensation has the same encryption and that was released, with the encryption, 8 days ago.
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Ahh a hole in the conspiracy theory. Is Lloyd hiding in the grassy knoll?
Seriously, you guys can be upset with HTC but, they could have gave some generic reason as to why they are locking their phones and eventually things would have died down. They wouldn't have really suffered from it.
Instead, they went in the other direction. I give them credit for that. All this does is keep me as a customer.
Setting a nice precedent here!
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Here's the link, for anyone who hasn't seen it:
HTC CEO Confirms EVO 3D Will Have An Unlocked Bootloader One Way Or Another
Personally, I'm glad to hear it straight from him. Yeah, it will likely be an OTA, or an unlock tool, but this news reaffirmed my intentions to buy an E3D...which were shaky still even after the announcement yesterday.
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Since their unlocking the bootloader does this mean NAND and everything is unlocked liked the OG Evo?
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Yes, sir. Absolutely. This means devs will be able to cook roms, kernels and any other goodies we are enjoying on the current Evo......and more.
Evo will get a update second quarter soon confirmed from HTC also they said they will post a list of phones that will not be locked. Some still are.
Honestly guys. Lets keep this support going regardless! Too many awesome developers giving us great things. donate. do anything possible for them. It's sad that T-Mobile decided after 7 months.. to just end a device that actually was a GREAT device. And honestly should be kept around for longer than that. (I'm sure a lot of us paid 250.00 for it with 2 year contract) I hope as a loving XDA Developer member and many others we can keep this going. I'm rather concerned what will happen in the future with this device on the development side of things. It's a good device and I know in the world of technology things to age very very fast. but maybe we can keep this around for longer than t mobile wants..
Much respect.. XDA guy dude of sorts.
This belongs in general.
Yes it does. But why not let the developers see this? I'd like to hear most of the developers opinions..
Because this is not what the developer forum is for and I really doubt devs are going to pack up and ship out because T-Mo isn't retailing the phone anymore.
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Because this is not what the developer forum is for and I really doubt devs are going to pack up and ship out because T-Mo isn't retailing the phone anymore.
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I agree and hope this is the case. There are already a ton of us with the G2/DZ and it isn't a big deal if they take it off the shelves. All of you who have it now can just keep it going. I realize the concern with warranty replacement and such, but other than that I see no reason why this is such a big deal. We all know it's a fantastic device, who cares if T-mo doesn't realize that and discontinues it. Our DZ's still will most likely get the software updates you G2 owners won't get, and the DZ version can just be rooted and put on your G2's. There's no reason to freak out and buy a new phone if you have the G2.
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I agree and hope this is the case. There are already a ton of us with the G2/DZ and it isn't a big deal if they take it off the shelves. All of you who have it now can just keep it going. I realize the concern with warranty replacement and such, but other than that I see no reason why this is such a big deal. We all know it's a fantastic device, who cares if T-mo doesn't realize that and discontinues it. Our DZ's still will most likely get the software updates you G2 owners won't get, and the DZ version can just be rooted and put on your G2's. There's no reason to freak out and buy a new phone if you have the G2.
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The T-mobile G2 is still going to get the Gingerbread update....just wanted to throw that out there.
you guys should check out the g1 forums. a few of the devs there still update ocasionally. I don't think development for this device will stop anytime soon (however the g1 did have lots of small developers as opposed to just a few big ones)
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The T-mobile G2 is still going to get the Gingerbread update....just wanted to throw that out there.
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Haha thankyou, I know that. I'm talking about beyond gingerbread. Definitely not getting anything past gingerbread on a discontinued device.
Yes it is.. but further down the road is my concern.
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Lol the g1 has a port of gingerbread and honeycomb. Worry no more.
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Haha thankyou, I know that. I'm talking about beyond gingerbread. Definitely not getting anything past gingerbread on a discontinued device.
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Not from the official sources, but I bet we'll get community Ice Cream roms
I dont see development ending anytime soon as stated before the G1 and MyTouch3g have Gingerbread and the Devs are still working on the roms for those phones so Im sure the devs will still support our phones for awhile
What exactly is being developed in this thread?
arich said:
What exactly is being developed in this thread?
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My rage against people who post in the wrong section.
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My rage against people who post in the wrong section.
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Well why not move it to correct forum then?? lol
I've moved it across to General
@TDC & Spartan You guys are dorks...and @TDC - I am the only one that can use that line round here
First, this isn't a post about how to get root on 2.3. I know, at present, it is not possible. I know, I have tried pretty much every method imaginable
Anyway:
Where are we? I've heard rumors that S-off is coming from unreoked, alpharev x, team win will be coming "any day." Yeah, I'll believe it when I get it.
But, I think we are at the point where we are at HTC and Sprint's mercy. I mean, are we at the point where we are going to have to beg sprint and or HTC, to put S-OFF, or, somewhat more realistically, unlock the bootloader (or at least provide an RUU to downgrade?).
Anyway: Just discuss what you think about the plausibility of rooting the 2.3 release, and if we will ever see a free EVO. I am, sadly stuck on 2.3, as I didn't think about rooting, or know anything about it, until after I took the OTA .
Flame on! #johnnystorm
Is there a way to delete post instead of editing?
This isn't another one of those posts claiming to not be one of those posts about the locked bootloader that has been posted more than enough?
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COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
I don't think we're stuck at Spint's/HTC's mercy. We're just further down the priority list of the devs. That's fine, its the nature of technology. As STG posted, Alpharev and unrevoked are posting something tonight. That could be a universal GB crack (hope!) or it could be a rooted 3d/Sensation. Either way, OG Evo is moving up on the priority list. Its an old phone, but hardly forgotten.
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COULD IT BE......
@AlphaRevX and @unrevoked have come together to build something... Revolutionary. See you tonight! http://t.co/QUU6G1A"
--http://twitter.com/
Hey are u rooted on that thing? Oh no...... well sit back and hold yer breath like the REST OF US......
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Damn You, You beat me.
http://revolutionary.io/
I hope that it really is a root for gb. stock rom is killing me.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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HTC isn't helping much either, though they say that they are going to. The've announced that they are going to start sending out updates with the new unlocked boot-loaders in August, and the Evo 3D is third on the list so it'll be out later in the year. I haven't read anything about them sending out an unlocked boot-loader for the Evo 4G.
As was previously stated, not forgotten, but no doubt far down on the list of priorities.
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If I recall HTC's statement correctly, they said the 3vo and the sensation would receive the updates first and then in September they would unlock phones that have recently been locked down...I believe the og evo is on that list.
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If that "Something Revolutionary" is root for Evo Gingerbread, I will be voluntary slave to the devs for five years... Okay, maybe not, but Paypal donation, without question.
You guys are doing truly heroic work.
I still think it is obnoxious that Android phones (which ironically, is the "open" platform), have become more locked down. I am glad to see that HTC and other companies are starting to realize that this stuff is important. I think that it is at least a big step forward. I do believe HTC will follow through on their promise, at least for future phones. I don't think that they'd go back on their word. I'm just optimistic like that .
This "later today" thing is killing me. See; Now I am going to be on that page hitting F5 every couple minutes for the rest of the day .
Yea, yeah, I know: No ETAs.
Best of luck to all
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?sk=wall&filter=1 click the link people like it and comment on it.
I have seen first hand proof of this working. I had an evo 3d. Htc decided all futre devices would have locked bootliaders well that made alot of people angry. Someone posted a thread on xda suggesting we let htc know that is not gna fly. So it turnd out thousands of people got on there facebook wall and twitter. Guess what the next day htc released a statement saying that they wanted too keep there coustamers happy and that the bootloader would be unlocked. They were. Id like to be able too have a device and not have too get a new one juzt because moto or htc or sammy wants too put them out constantly get people too buy them and then ditch them and out out another. The atrix is 100 percent capable of runing ics and theres no excuae for it l not too recieve it just because moto wants people too buy new devices every couple months. I know many many people feel the same way well as i said we have the power too change that if people would stop bickering and take it seriously. And also if moto started supporting devices longer not just bug fixes but the new android flavors. Id definately make my next device a moto it would do nothing but benefit them
Oh man that was hard to read. The spelling mistakes and grammar was through the roof. How about you stop your little protest and spend more time in your English class.
phistyle said:
Oh man that was hard to read. The spelling mistakes and grammar was through the roof. How about you stop your little protest and spend more time in your English class.
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Didn't your parents teach you that if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all? Keep it up op I agree with you.
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So, you had an Evo 3G, now you have a Razor, and you're posting this in the Evo 4G section....
HipKat said:
So, you had an Evo 3G, now you have a Razor, and you're posting this in the Evo 4G section....
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Maybe he skipped reading class too?
Ok, I'm not trying to be a ****, but I have to say that if you're trying to get a point across, it's always better to make it easy to read. No one's going to care about your point if they can't even understand what it is. You could have a good, valid point, and no one knows because they can't figure out what it is.
Don't blame the phone company. No service provider will buy an update and release it to eol phones like ours.
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As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
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.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
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If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
Milkman00 said:
If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
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If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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The Great Lonny from Charlie Brown!!!!
Milkman00 said:
Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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Thanks for being real. I feel the same way bro. I feel your pain. But I am not surprised. Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread. I am on the naughty list so I won't be getting gingerbread but others who are on the nice list can or maybe we can wait for the Lonny Bunny but our best chance is to ask the Great Lonny next Halloween for gingerbread by that time we will have an official gingerbread while everybody else will be on Jellybean.
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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Thanks Steve. I didn't know that was the case. I thought several users here had access to it.
I am so disgusted with SamSprint it is disgusting. The worst part yet is that I feel that I have no options. I like Samsung technology (specifically the large AMOLED screen in combination with the physical QWERTY), but with attitude that Samsung and Sprint have in releasing software updates (the attitude of I got your money already), it is REALLY discouraging. I wish we had other options because I would GTFO of this phone QUICK and never buy another Samsung phone again.
ALSO, all of this in combination with Samsung and Sprint's complete lack of communication on the matter. No status updates, confirmations, NOTHING. SOOOOOOOOOO tired of this business model, and nothing on the horizon that looks better.
The Galaxy S is an awesome phone no matter which variant you have. Yes we don't get the up dates as quick as we should, I put it on the carriers(refer to the I9000 section on samfirmware and you'll see what I mean). If they'd let some members of xda do their updates they'd be a lot stablier and out faster.
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jamice4u said:
Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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That is not going to happen.
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Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
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Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
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I am sorry that you think it is ok for companies (Sprint/Samsung) to treat THEIR CUSTOMERS this way. You know, the same customers who pay the salaries of the employees of their respective companies???
I am also sorry that you don't find this ridiculous delay, and this non-communication as acceptable, and as something that doesn't warrant complaining.
Instead, you chose to complain about my post. Good use of your time. It is YOUR passive attitude which is what allows these exact delays to occur. GOOD JOB!
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I guess it wasn't in the playbook this week?
Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic
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Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic
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I have personally written to both companies (actual paper and stamp). I am just one person. If more and more people did it (even just demanded communication), things would change.
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Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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I had to lol at the job still not being done for you. Now there's a real challenge for the devs.
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And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
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Spoke up to WHO? XDA Developers forum?
And no one is keeping anyone in the dark. We weren't guaranteed ANYTHING. We have been getting leaks (read: unofficial builds), and that's it. Nothing has been announced. We'll get it when we get it. Were we even TOLD we were getting Gingerbread by both Sprint and Samsung? I don't think so. We are all speculating release dates, 2.3.x builds, playbook leaks, etc.