Are we a cult? - EVO 4G General

i came across this and it made me laugh:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/30241-we-becoming-cult.html
i thought i'd share the chuckles and ask...
are we evo warriors a cult??
ps.
i've myself shared quite a few smiles whenever i come across another evo warrior.

I'm hoping for moments like this when school starts up, my mom is gunna kill me if I tell her about another cool new custom kernel

shift_ said:
i came across this and it made me laugh:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/30241-we-becoming-cult.html
i thought i'd share the chuckles and ask...
are we evo warriors a cult??
ps.
i've myself shared quite a few smiles whenever i come across another evo warrior.
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Yes. Now finish your god damned Kool-Aid like a good little purple robe wearing white sneaker shoe wearing follower.
I'll refrain from commenting about how we're different from CoA, since that horse has been beaten dead, rezzed, and killed again.
According to Wikipedia (which is never wrong):
Cult pejoratively refers to a group whose beliefs or practices could be, reasonably or unreasonably, considered strange.

Cult? Not so much. I agree with one of the comments under the article though. There does seem to be a community spirit amongst Android users. I'm new to both Android and the XDA forums but I have been very impressed with how willing and helpful this group of people seems to be.

mmm...this seems rather fitting....just hold "Android" and "Apple" in your mind...i'm sure you can figure which column is which.
http://www.faithresource.org/SpiritualAbuse/ArticlesSpiritAbuse/ReligionversusCult.htm
(i have not read any other page on this site and prolly don't agree with him...this is for entertainment purposes only.)
we encourage individualism
Android helps us meet our needs
we encourage independent critical thinking
we encourage technical integration
like the clergy, it's not right for the devs to take sexual advantage of their followers
ok...so we're not always respectful to critics and non-searching fools
we do cherish our devs
we do encourage folks to search before asking a question
etc...
all hail Andy

shift_ said:
i came across this and it made me laugh:
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/30241-we-becoming-cult.html
i thought i'd share the chuckles and ask...
are we evo warriors a cult??
ps.
i've myself shared quite a few smiles whenever i come across another evo warrior.
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yes... but at least we have something to be excited about

Lol I say its more broad as android as a whole.....not evo specific....
Just the other day I was at the car wash getting my car done and another person there had an evo and saw mine. He grilled my phone for a bit and I grilled his but that was it....lol

Related

Haykuro

I just wanted to give Haykuro a couple thoughts...It looks like you have learned a valuable lesson in life today. We as consumers have an obsession with the latest and greatest in all forms retail crap we can get our hands on. Just think of all the people who waited in line for a Wii over night (me included), the Playstations, Xboxes and to go back even further, the Tickle me Elmo and cabbage patch kids. The people who got these items were generally over joyed with a sense of accomplishment because the felt so resourceful, and they could say "I have what everyone else wants." This is sad, but it is now part of our nature. Googles delay of cupcake is what ruined YOUR forum. This brought the flood of people to xda. It will not stop now, the snow ball has begun.
I for one was just bragging to my wife about you (a 17 year old kid) doing what you do. This operating system isn't even in its infant stages yet, and I truly feel like this is the "windows" of the future. You are on the top of the game right now kid. You will do very well for yourself if you keep doing what your doing. I hope you find a way to market yourself, and find a forum with guidelines on who can post and keep doing your thing. Don't waste your talent man. Peace
Yeah, it's sad to see Haykuro leave, he did a great job, but i'm guessing the mod's wont like this thread very much.
I've already made the offer to him for that very thing. A well managed and moderated forum without any drama. I'd like to have seen that happen here, but this is only one part of a much larger community.....and the staff seems overwhelmed by the sheer amount of people.
NEVER mention Windows and Android in the same sentence! NEVER!!! lol.
I know, it's such a disgrace to Windows
Anyhow, please use the existing threads to post your comments.

WTF is up with the pissing matches

What the hell is up with all the fighting going on in this forum. A lot of people seem to ***** and moan about every little detail. It seems that whenever i go in to the popular threads like. Eugene's, or the lag fix, etc. and hit the last page, there is a lot of arguing going on. Can't we just be patient and content with what we are offered by the awesome work of the dev's we got. If we continue to ***** and moan about every little thing all they are going to do is work for themselves and maybe a couple of close friends and leave us out because all we ever do is complain. I know we are all eager to use our sweet ass phone to its full potential, but its going to take time. Just look at the g1 and how long it took to have it running at full potential and beyond. All i'm asking for is peace in this thread and make it a pleasure to come in here and read about new developments in peace. [end rant]
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Right on the money
You hit it right on the money.STFU people. Your not dev'n your bit**in, casuing it to slow down. We would porbally have CM6 if people would quit there yappin. Go play outside.
I sincerely hope you don't believe this thread is going to stop anything. This forum has been the same for many years and It will never change. This forum is full of children and they're all going to argue and fight. Your best bet is to ignore it and continue to what you're doing. Posting a thread like this puts yourself right down at their level.
for real. Im not sure if 75% of people on xda are children, but 75% are definitely childish.
i have never seen so much childish like arguing, fighting, and comments in my life
If people posted their age (real of course) I would assume that the large majority are 12-17.
threads like this never seem to actually change anything, but it does make me feel a little better to see a few people not acting like 12 yr olds.
Im not getting all 'high and mighty' but i think i act like a 'normal' person (not a whiny brat).
--not saying that younger people should not be here, or course they should, they just should not act so stupid, aggressive, impatient, disrespectful, immature with the comments
Coming from ppcgeeks this place is a war zone. I actually stayed at ppcgeeks even when I had a nexus one because everyone here is so rude.
You make a new topic and God forbid there's been another one days ago made, so now everyone jumps on your case hard core.
Unfortunately I have to come here cause ppcgeeks is mainly cdma ..
But it took a learning curve coming here.. gotta put on war paint to make a thread or even a post..lol
or if people want to argue about silly little things they can use this thread or make one thread just for arguing, if thats what gets you off, but leave the development threads clean and only post about relevent things dealing with the actual thread
p.s. Thanks Mods for moving it to the proper forum
kboater said:
for real. Im not sure if 75% of people on xda are children, but 75% are definitely childish.
i have never seen so much childish like arguing, fighting, and comments in my life
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Welcome to the internet and the power of anonymous posting! Nothing works better than a mask to hide behind and do and say things *most* people wouldn't do or say face to face.
Luis
Cool story bro.
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Funny all the *****y haters didnt post yet.....hahahaha
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noticed it myself, and suspect some of it is due to feelings of inadequacy on some posters' - literally
there's one poster that 90%+ of his/her posts are rude, illogical and slamming on someone else's post - i've started to suspect that poster just needs to feed his/her own feelings of self-importance, and a keyboard is an easy & convenient tool
Waaah! My phone don't work! Waaaah! People won't stop complaining! Waaaah! People don't do the things I want them to do!
You know what complaining about complainers gets you? More complainers. Yeah.
Yeah?!?!?!
Well F you for starting this thread BRO!!!
/sarcasm
F everyone i'm done [throws vibrant out window] going back to the g1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765441
I guess we should all be happy with beta-at-best quality work just because we're "lucky" to get the attention.
any phone has issues. Hell if its not the GPS its something else. N1s wacky touch screen that sucks, Droid x locked bootloader, evo separated screen and frame cap, etc.
No matter what there will always be something needing fixing or in samsungs eyes
OPTIMIZATIONS lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765441
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lol nice example
I read the title as "missing patches". Haha, I thought you were gonna be whining about no patches for gps or something.
I agree tho, been thinking it was just the captivate side with all the iphone people new to xda. I actually thought of leaving and coming back in a couple of months when things settle down.
Sent from my captivate
From what I see a lot of the pissing matches comes when 1 person has a different opinion on something and everyone has to tell him/her that is wrong.
I do agree though no one should EVER ***** or complain to a developer.
However if someone states a flaw without going oh my god this ruined my phone, but only just states it I don't see why everyone has to try to jump on them (usually the case).
For example in one thread I stated that I missed froyo and I hate that the Vibrant doesn't have it yet. Someone asked me what i missed, I answered with exactly what I missed and examples and I got jumped on for being impatient about developers releasing it. Never once did I say I wanted CM or any develeoper to release it (in fact I want it directly from Samsung), but the pitch forks came screaming those aren't big deals and and i needed to stfu and wait for a developer to release it.... which was never my point.
Too many people think there way is the only right way to think. Its rather annoying to see how far people will go too. Also I find that alot of people in these pissing matches don't read entire posts which I find funny because 1 person is usually arguing with someone who has the same general opinion but slightly different and they make it out to be a night and day difference.

[Q] "Huge Announcement"?

OK, preface: I don't want your sarcasm or cheeky remarks. I'm sick of reading through irrelevant and closed threads to no avail.
If it were agreeable, would a MOD, or SamsungJohn please comment as to whether the "huge announcement" has been made?
I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but I have my own personal thoughts as to whether "opening the lines of communication" is considered "huge", or even an "announcement". If the powers that be allow, I would like to comment to SamsungJohn about that personally.
Meetloaf13 said:
OK, preface: I don't want your sarcasm or cheeky remarks. I'm sick of reading through irrelevant and closed threads to no avail.
If it were agreeable, would a MOD, or SamsungJohn please comment as to whether the "huge announcement" has been made?
I'm not trying to be negative or anything, but I have my own personal thoughts as to whether "opening the lines of communication" is considered "huge", or even an "announcement". If the powers that be allow, I would like to comment to SamsungJohn about that personally.
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Send him a PM then.
The dude is full of crap.
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REALLY?....guys just wait you don't even know what he's going to announce.
He has proven he works for Samsung so he's not fake and is talking to the higher ups
.....Just wait we don't know what he's even capable of or what he's going to do for our community.
Isaint the announcement was that they have started a q&a with a poll that's it bro
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O my bad dude 8(
...lol i still don't see it though where did you guys see this?
EB13 Imminent?
So is this the "huge announcement"?
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g
Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.
EDIT: Actually I think they are suggesting that Samsung is updating its Epic 4g page. Hopwever, when I follow AC's link it just goes to a blank page with a little form at the bottom asking if I was satisfied with the content. I said "no".
dr_gibberish said:
So is this the "huge announcement"?
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g
Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.
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No. That's not even confirmed. The big announcement is yet to be announced, everyone just be patient.
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dr_gibberish said:
So is this the "huge announcement"?
http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-eb01-release-imminent-sprint-epic-4g
Android central suggests that the EB13 update is "imminent" and that sprint has been making changes to its customer service page in advance of this.
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This announcement of EB13 is good for us Epic owners, but that does not effect all Galaxy S owners. I think the better news is that John is here to make sure we don't have another debacle like this whole Froyo update. Samsung realizes the influence we have and to have a line of communication between a Manufacturer and a dev forum is unprecedented.
IF the poll he is compiling is the 'big news', then if it actually bears fruit, that could be useful. Not sure that is the announcement. I think he shot himself in the foot promising an announcement, maybe official collaboration between him and svetius is a big deal to him, but until it bears fruit, it's not that impressive to the average XDA user. This leads me to believe that the poll may not be the announcement, just another part of the work he is trying to accomplish here. Give him a shot, and dont ***** about froyo, he said its on the list, wait and see what he does.
Silly flaming about froyo on here is only going to get threads closed, and give him an excuse to ignore the issue. If you must, do it on the social network sites, or PM him, then you can get your temp ban, and threads stay open...
As speculated in one of the general threads, (ran out of thanks if I didnt catch it), he MAY be sent here as a distraction, to keep us off twitter, FB, and the other retarded social networking forums. He is from that dept, maybe he is cleaning it up by distracting us...? Kind of an elaborate conspiricy, but who knows. Those that have been doing the twitter/FB campaigns, dont let up, it may be working... but keep the crazy comments there, as it will draw more attention to the unrooted masses...
HOPING SJohn is making such a big deal because he knows something he cant say yet... just hope he doesnt drag it out and announce froyo on the 20th!
This still reminds me of the Fallout3/Vegas on the PS3 BS...
Working nights sucks! I go to bed and all the fun comes and all I find are locked threads after a cup of coffee when I wake up. :/
So how many armchair bandits have actually sent a pm to the xda owner on what we might do as requested? I did suggest a moderated forum where posts are only posted until after being reviewed by a mod. While I'm no dev I did offer to help out with such an endeavour.
Why don't you guys just give him a chance. His hands are tired right now and be can't say anything untill xda allows him.
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ungovernable1977 said:
As speculated in one of the general threads, (ran out of thanks if I didnt catch it), he MAY be sent here as a distraction, to keep us off twitter, FB, and the other retarded social networking forums. He is from that dept, maybe he is cleaning it up by distracting us...? Kind of an elaborate conspiricy, but who knows.
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The first part of your post was spot-on....the above though is way too tinfoil hat and outside the realm of the feasible or credible. There's no way anyone in a position like his is going to come here or elsewhere to simply serve 'as a distraction'. Frustrations especially amongst we Epic owners are understandable to a point, but the above manner of thinking goes beyond frustration and crosses the line into bizzare paranoia.
It seems fairly obvious and certainly logical what's happened with John to this point, and in hindsight predictable too given the angst here; he came primarily with the hopeful purpose to collaborate with the people actually doing ROM/device development here, to try and establish a relationship with these folks perhaps to mutual benefit for both current and future product/customers. Unfortunately, the initial implementation came a bit too soon and without enough forethought and, it seems, without communicating his intentions and initiating a dialogue with the XDA owners first. That, combined with (a.) some obvious communication 'ambiguity' (at best) on John's part and (b.) making the mistake of thinking such a dialogue should be brought forth and attempted with the open masses of the entire membership of XDA down to the end user level and all the kneejerk 'angry white noise' therein, proved to be a disaster.
None of that means the desire and effort behind what John/Samsung is attempting is without value or merit though. And fortunately, it now sounds like they're going to try isolating his interaction purely with the dev/material contributers that actually matter, and hopefully they'll do so privately as well to keep everything filtered from the mob mentality so that an actual civil, mature interactive process can take place. Besides, a great deal of what he was barraged with in the central 'General' thread were issues that are mired on the carrier level anyway at least when it comes to the remaining GS phones still lacking Froyo.
And honestly, any information the end users want to hear, if he can even provide such, would be better received and trusted if its handed down through already established devs & moderators in each forum who have the history and respect of the membership at large to some degree. Otherwise you get what you've gotten the last 24 hours; a mindless, angry lynch mob mentality of kneejerk frustration being directed at one sole employee who (a.) had nothing personally to do with the cause of said frustration, and (b.) furthermore actually dares to come in good faith & intention wishing to bridge the divide. Sometimes, the hounds become so rabid and lose their minds so much that they try to gnaw off the good intentioned hand that attempts to try and help or feed them, and that's pretty much what happened in John's case.
Although it would be cool, I highly doubt that XDA is doing and hands-tying here. The ball has bee Sammy's court for a while now.
XDA has been walking the walk, not talking the talk.
If the 'huge announcement' was to announce the efforts of "collaboration", fine, we can move forward.
If a MOD came and commented YAY or NAY, then they could close this thread, and it's purpose would be served.
As it stands now, you have a bunch of people making assumptions one way or the other and making silly statements accordingly. We all what assuming does... =D
how do you know about my tinfoil hat?! No, really, its all Noobnl and Elvis' fault. Bastards.
I honestly hope John does something more than get special threads and draw attention to XDA. But you had a good idea there....
Any Mod/Admin have any input????
Was the announcement the first post of the 2 or 3 threads SJ started, or were they to lead up to the announcement, and were hijacked by angry SGS users with pitchforks acting like John is Frankenstein's monster??
BTW, did anyone notice the GSM SGS users were much more rabid in the General forums???? I guess its because of their rates/service ratio Seriously though, I thought we were bad...
it is getting all hyped up and will probably turn out to be meh...
ungovernable1977 said:
how do you know about my tinfoil hat?! No, really, its all Noobnl and Elvis' fault. Bastards.
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Haha, I wasn't referencing you personally, just the 'threads' you were referencing and the mentality portrayed therein.
Hehe, you can't say "huge announcement" to a bunch of nerds and not have it be something that gives them their techie-jimmies for the day.
When I think of "huge announcement", I think something really relevant to the target crowd that either appeases are very much wanted need, or announcing something crazy that gets everyone excited.
If either of these things fails to happen, I consider this a major PR gaffe, that could be saved be some out of the ordinary effort by Sammy.
Silly mens!
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Hehe, you can't say "huge announcement" to a bunch of nerds and not have it be something that gives them their techie-jimmies for the day.
When I think of "huge announcement", I think something really relevant to the target crowd that either appeases are very much wanted need, or announcing something crazy that gets everyone excited.
If either of these things fails to happen, I consider this a major PR gaffe, that could be saved be some out of the ordinary effort by Sammy.
Silly mens!
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Agreed fully. That is what makes this so puzzling. Stop being so damn ambiguous SamsungJohn and just come out and tell us in no uncertain terms what the announcement is and what you would like from us.
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Haha, I wasn't referencing you personally, just the 'threads' you were referencing and the mentality portrayed therein.
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oh I know... I just referenced the 'distraction theory', as it is PLAUSIBLE, although not likely... plus its entertaining... this is like my geek soap opera.... please SPRINT, please take this as far as you can... I really wanna see minds lost here.
The best part is that some of these theories end up on so called media websites, Engadget, I got my HTC assassin theory from a very reliable source... please write an 'article' about it... why not... ?

Team Whiskey pulling an... Apple!!?

I know I am immediately going to get flamed for this....even then what the H....
Ok....I always loved TW roms and also donated in the past.....but recently esp after 3/1...TW has disappeared into this veil of secrecy....
I thought the biggest ideological difference between Apple & Android is....Sharing!!
Isn't this Apple's style....we are making something and we know better than you that it is good for you!! I know its very hard to share WIP but isn't the idea to share the progress/development of product even when its under construction???
TWwhatsup said:
I know I am immediately going to get flamed for this....even then what the H....
Ok....I always loved TW roms and also donated in the past.....but recently esp after 3/1...TW has disappeared into this veil of secrecy....
I thought the biggest ideological difference between Apple & Android is....Sharing!!
Isn't this Apple's style....we are making something and we know better than you that it is good for you!! I know its very hard to share WIP but isn't the idea to share the progress/development of product even when its under construction???
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first android is about sharing which is why TW follows the gpl and releases kernel source code and anything else they are required to by the apache gpl.
that said they are by no means required to show you their progress on a rom or what ever it is they are developing that is their business. Google doesnt keep us updated every step of the way with their modifications to android.
and finally you created a username just for this??? cmon man
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I know I am immediately going to get flamed for this....even then what the H....
Ok....I always loved TW roms and also donated in the past.....but recently esp after 3/1...TW has disappeared into this veil of secrecy....
I thought the biggest ideological difference between Apple & Android is....Sharing!!
Isn't this Apple's style....we are making something and we know better than you that it is good for you!! I know its very hard to share WIP but isn't the idea to share the progress/development of product even when its under construction???
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You created a new Xda name just to rag on TW cause you dont have the balls to post from your real name. and two your the reason devs are leaving SHUT THE FUK UP YOU TROLL!
blader3759 said:
You created a new Xda name just to rag on TW cause you dont have the balls to post from your real name. and two your the reason devs are leaving SHUT THE FUK UP YOU TROLL!
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I am not going to glorify you with you a response...but real name...your rela name is blader? what you going to name your son ball?
Wow youve got some nerve! TW don't owe you sh¡t ....open source means YOU can go look up and add or change things....not demand that for instance TW owes you something ...they don't work for you or for any of us,they do what they do for fun and enjoyment.....go away before you drive our devs away
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Just want to give my 2 cents on this one: @OP STFU! and I mean that with all sincerity. Wtf are you talking about? Do you realize how stupid you sound? And you didn't even have the balls to use your real user name. I bet your one of those loosers that always ask for updates. Please do us all a favor and jump off the tallest building you can find.
Attn: please no one else reply to this post. It honestly doesn't deserve any more attention.
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While I also have been wondering what TW has been working on I don't think they owe me an update. In fact, since they've been so quiet I can only assume they've been working on something really big which will be worth the wait.
TWwhatsup said:
I know I am immediately going to get flamed for this....even then what the H....
Ok....I always loved TW roms and also donated in the past.....but recently esp after 3/1...TW has disappeared into this veil of secrecy....
I thought the biggest ideological difference between Apple & Android is....Sharing!!
Isn't this Apple's style....we are making something and we know better than you that it is good for you!! I know its very hard to share WIP but isn't the idea to share the progress/development of product even when its under construction???
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You sir, are Bi-Losing.
TWwhatsup said:
I know I am immediately going to get flamed for this....even then what the H....
Ok....I always loved TW roms and also donated in the past.....but recently esp after 3/1...TW has disappeared into this veil of secrecy....
I thought the biggest ideological difference between Apple & Android is....Sharing!!
Isn't this Apple's style....we are making something and we know better than you that it is good for you!! I know its very hard to share WIP but isn't the idea to share the progress/development of product even when its under construction???
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Ehh, no worries man, I think they're working on something Great, or taking a well deserved break, they've done more than enough for us, that being said, they don't have to share ( I would like them too, but it's not required ) and I kind of like the surprises they give us
+1 for me having the nicest response
Uh.....what?
This post doesn't make any sense.
Som is barely back from taking time off and he's already working on his projects again. Krylon needed a rest too. Tonicacid has been continually working on his fantastic themes and has kept in contact with the TW community.
FFS, these ppl have real lives with real **** going on. Iunno about you, but I'm not about to ask these guys to leave the important stuff just to come make a ROM for my phone.
The sad part of the whole thing is that ppl would've known wtf was going on if they bothered to follow the dev's twitter or their communities where they said that they'd be taking time off in the first place.
Seriously, the sense of entitlement I'm seeing on these forums is starting to make me sick. If this crap keeps going on, even more dev's are gonna jump off of XDA and make private communities like Eugene did.
@OP, please, if you really gave a crap about what's up with TW, effing get up off of your ass and look at the OPs in their posts; they contain the links to their forum and their FB.
You know how TW works: they want to put out quality stable ROMs, Som keeps us up with his work and even updates us periodically on what's going on. Hell, he even recently asked us about what features we'd like to see.
.....and yes, +1 to cashy for being nice (because god knows I've completely lost my patience).
The reason for the secrecy is.....
TW is starring in their own reality show! Its called 'Android OS's next top coder'. On the show, a shadowy executive gives devs assignments and tasks to complete on a series of different Android phones.
The dev that does the worst has to face off in a challenge against a dev who is voted for elimination.
Most of these challenges involve hacking bootloaders or disassembling SIM code.
Its ZANY! The rest of the episode has interviews and confessions of devs and clips of them debugging and compiling code.
Exciting stuff
blader3759 said:
You created a new Xda name just to rag on TW cause you dont have the balls to post from your real name. and two your the reason devs are leaving SHUT THE FUK UP YOU TROLL!
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+1 The word on their facebook group page is that new updates will be on the TW forum and not XDA. With crap like this, I cannot blame them.
cashyftw said:
+1 for me having the nicest response :d
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Oh, that was good! made me laugh
tarzanman said:
the reason for the secrecy is.....
Tw is starring in their own reality show! Its called 'android os's next top coder'. On the show, a shadowy executive gives devs assignments and tasks to complete on a series of different android phones.
The dev that does the worst has to face off in a challenge against a dev who is voted for elimination.
Most of these challenges involve hacking bootloaders or disassembling sim code.
Its zany! The rest of the episode has interviews and confessions of devs and clips of them debugging and compiling code.
Exciting stuff
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This is the best!

@mod please delete this mess

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How many project treble threads do we need?
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Apology accepted
Also can I point out, a lot of the pie gsis don't have access points in the settings, hence the need for the editor.
SM210 said:
if you are like me that's what you need and you don't want to get flamed for asking too many questions as XDA is a developer site. If I've had an attitude here I seriously apologize and I mean it I'm not just saying that and it will not ever happen again.
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I hope you realize nobody has anything against asking questions. In fact, it's encouraged. You got "flamed" because of the way you handled the answers you got.
It wasn't exactly flaming either. You flat out insulted the members offering help because it wasn't detailed enough. And the suggestions offered assumed you done a bit research beforehand. And you got the appropriate response.
You were then spoon-fed the answer and here you are, still playing the victim of "flaming".
Ask as many questions as it takes, seriously. That's never a problem. Just don't insult the members answering because they don't spoon feed it to you.
I noticed you linked my guide on how to root without given me proper credits for even making that guide... I'll give 24 hours for that to change. If it wasn't for me hosting spaceminers twrps ( which I 100% don't mind doing) and my guide there would be a lot more issues my guy lol I think it would be fair to say I contribute enough to get my credits due is all lol hell honestly the group for this phone was starting to die and it was just me barely keeping the forum alive for While until madbat, starkiller2 and spaceminer came on lol
Big yikes on this thread.
madbat99 said:
I hope you realize nobody has anything against asking questions. In fact, it's encouraged. You got "flamed" because of the way you handled the answers you got.
It wasn't exactly flaming either. You flat out insulted the members offering help because it wasn't detailed enough. And the suggestions offered assumed you done a bit research beforehand. And you got the appropriate response.
You were then spoon-fed the answer and here you are, still playing the victim of "flaming".
Ask as many questions as it takes, seriously. That's never a problem. Just don't insult the members answering because they don't spoon feed it to you.
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Just because you think something doesn't mean that's the way it is. I wasn't referring to anything that happened recently with my op.
I was over the whole situation that happened. I admitted I was wrong. Now you come stir things up here?! Minding your own business will eliminate most of your problems in life. If you took what I said here in my op the wrong way that's you. Y'all can have this. I've already wrote and waiting for them to delete my account. So go to sleep tonight knowing that you won the battle that you wouldn't let go of.
I have nothing against anyone here. Sorry , again for what I posted last week. I shouldn't have done it. Resentment only hurts the person who holds on to it.
And to the other person, my bad for not throwing you in the credits. It was a mistake not intentional or personal.
I don't discuss my personal life here but I have alot going on right now too like many of us do. Y'all have a good one.
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Just because you think something doesn't mean that's the way it is. I wasn't referring to anything that happened recently with my op.
I was over the whole situation that happened. I admitted I was wrong. Now you come stir things up here?! Minding your own business will eliminate most of your problems in life. If you took what I said here in my op the wrong way that's you. Y'all can have this. I've already wrote and waiting for them to delete my account. So go to sleep tonight knowing that you won the battle that you wouldn't let go of.
I have nothing against anyone here. Sorry , again for what I posted last week. I shouldn't have done it. Resentment only hurts the person who holds on to it.
And to the other person, my bad for not throwing you in the credits. It was a mistake not intentional or personal.
I don't discuss my personal life here but I have alot going on right now too like many of us do. Y'all have a good one.
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See I won't say much but from all the stuff I read there was ways to handle stuff that you didn't do to well handling and as bad as it sounds any meme you see about tech or dev community stuff about all of us Basically just being smartasses is kinda true lol you experienced first hand how troublesome this can be now when you take it to seriously lol. If you see all my post I'm basically just being chill and a smartass while still helping just enough for people to still learn, and people realize that and that's the fun of it lol. All of us are just very blunt and forward and we try to keep our stuff "chill". most the guides and other stuff made on here even do say you should have some advanced knowledge of using adb And android which means understanding Android 8 or higher now. Basically anything you may have learned from Android 7 and under is old news after Android 8 and up. Now if we were dealing with a phone that shipped with Android 7 then the knowledge you have would be helpful here. Which is why to try to teach instead of just give lol We all have our own things going but even with what i said being here is sort of like a job and you can't bring your personal life into your worklife ya know. I'm not trying to hate I'm just being forward and honest about this wholeass situation. In the end some of us here are adults so we should also try our best to not make this place look like Reddit by hating each other lmao. Your always welcome in the community bro lol
SM210 said:
Advice section
1. Minding your own .business will eliminate most of your problems in life.
2 Resentment only hurts the person who holds on to it.
3 I don't discuss my personal life here but I have alot going on right now too like many of us do. Y'all have a good one.
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1. Big thanks. now that I'm in my forties I was hoping I could get life advice from millennials.
2. Couldn't agree more. Resentment is corrosive.
3. I think I can help... See #1 in your advice section.
Keep your spirits up. Life gets tougher. In fact, no one gets out alive in the end.
But my statement stands, ask as many questions as it takes. If you get flamed for asking many questions, and you've done your due diligence ( searching thread for previous answers, reading back a few pages, etc.), Then I can almost guarantee the community will rally behind you in defense of you.
Sometimes a bunch of stuff gets deleted from a thread, and you haven't been here every 10 minutes to skim it, assumptions get made ( guilty)
And you misunderstood me too. I wasn't coming down on you. I was just saying don't let anything that happened make you stop asking questions. And don't let it make you doubt yourself about asking things.
So relax, take breath,
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean
$h!t snort and blaspheme
Let the heads cool and the engine run
Because in the end, everything we do...
Is just everything we've done.
madbat99 said:
1. Big thanks. now that I'm in my forties I was hoping I could get life advice from millennials.
2. Couldn't agree more. Resentment is corrosive.
3. I think I can help... See #1 in your advice section.
Keep your spirits up. Life gets tougher. In fact, no one gets out alive in the end.
But my statement stands, ask as many questions as it takes. If you get flamed for asking many questions, and you've done your due diligence ( searching thread for previous answers, reading back a few pages, etc.), Then I can almost guarantee the community will rally behind you in defense of you.
Sometimes a bunch of stuff gets deleted from a thread, and you've been here every 10 minutes to skim it, assumptions get made ( guilty)
And you misunderstood me too. I wasn't coming down on you. I was just saying don't let anything that happened make you stop asking questions. And don't let it make you doubt yourself about asking things.
So relax, take breath,
Keep the gun oiled and the temple clean
$h!t snort and blaspheme
Let the heads cool and the engine run
Because in the end, everything we do...
Is just everything we've done.
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Am I a millennial??!!!! Batsy say it isn't so. I'll drive off one of these stupid useless cliffs! My new hip should get me at least Boomer status.
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@SM210 bat Grandpa is right. Don't stop asking questions. That won't get you anywhere, just keep in mind that sometimes the only answer is "I don't know" or a partial answer while someone bangs out a better answer. We can't know everything (except me, obviously, but I promised to only reveal myself to the chosen one, I hear it's a chicken in Boise)
Just remember, we all do this because we enjoy it. Most of us, some of us just like to watch me fall down stairs. But we genuinely enjoy helping and getting to the aha moment. I no doubt handled that poorly. I'm not perfect either (I know, it shocked me too)
I apologise for cursing at you, but I was a sailor and it's my native language. No hard feelings.
Starkiller2 said:
Am I a millennial??!!!! Batsy say it isn't so. I'll drive off one of these stupid useless cliffs! My new hip should get me at least Boomer status.
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@SM210 bat Grandpa is right. Don't stop asking questions. That won't get you anywhere, just keep in mind that sometimes the only answer is "I don't know" or a partial answer while someone bangs out a better answer. We can't know everything (except me, obviously, but I promised to only reveal myself to the chosen one, I hear it's a chicken in Boise)
Just remember, we all do this because we enjoy it. Most of us, some of us just like to watch me fall down stairs. But we genuinely enjoy helping and getting to the aha moment. I no doubt handled that poorly. I'm not perfect either (I know, it shocked me too)
I apologise for cursing at you, but I was a sailor and it's my native language. No hard feelings.
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I couldn't possibly consider you a millennial. Lol.
Hey, I think I'm from the beginning of gen x
And I heard that chicken in Boise plays tic tac toe, and never loses. I should go see him. Wise oldd bird
madbat99 said:
I couldn't possibly consider you a millennial. Lol.
Hey, I think I'm from the beginning of gen x
And I heard that chicken in Boise plays tic tac toe, and never loses. I should go see him. Wise oldd bird
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Last time I revealed myself to a chicken I got arrested. But to be fair, they weren't super clear on what revealed meant.
Gen x. I think I landed in there right? 84?
Wait..... Was that a pun?! A freaking chicken pun?!
Starkiller2 said:
Last time I revealed myself to a chicken I got arrested. But to be fair, they weren't super clear on what revealed meant.
Gen x. I think I landed in there right? 84?
Wait..... Was that a pun?! A freaking chicken pun?!
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Yeah yer probably gen x too.
I am in New Orleans, where there are wild city chickens that literally look both ways before crossing the road. Lol. I've seen it.
The locals here call chicken ,the meal, "yard bird". LMAO. No joke
Starkiller2 said:
Last time I revealed myself to a chicken I got arrested. But to be fair, they weren't super clear on what revealed meant.
Gen x. I think I landed in there right? 84?
Wait..... Was that a pun?! A freaking chicken pun?!
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Plenty would call me a millennial and I'd argue against it. (1987) I couldn't be farther from them in my upbringing, or my current mentality. I like to call anyone from roughly 80'-89' the "latchkey" or "MTV" generation. We're a very small and obscure group. Turn dial phones, internet wasn't even a dream yet, pop-ice, music on MTV, cassette tapes, aluminum foil wrapped antennas, VHS, NES... The phone book and encyclopedias were the closest thing we had to Google.
Most of us either grew up in a broken home, or had little to no supervision because both parents had to work. We raised ourselves. We were self made, and we had to be. A real, "by the bootstraps" generation. We were quick to give someone the finger, but just as quick to hold the door for an old lady. We took sh*t from no one and always stuck up for the little guy. I'm still this way. You folks really take me back.
Spaceminer said:
Plenty would call me a millennial and I'd argue against it. (1987) I couldn't be farther from them in my upbringing, or my current mentality. I like to call anyone from roughly 80'-89' the "latchkey" or "MTV" generation. We're a very small and obscure group. Turn dial phones, internet wasn't even a dream yet, pop-ice, music on MTV, cassette tapes, aluminum foil wrapped antennas, VHS, NES... The phone book and encyclopedias were the closest thing we had to Google.
Most of us either grew up in a broken home, or had little to no supervision because both parents had to work. We raised ourselves. We were self made, and we had to be. A real, "by the bootstraps" generation. We were quick to give someone the finger, but just as quick to hold the door for an old lady. We took sh*t from no one and always stuck up for the little guy. I'm still this way. You folks really take me back.
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Man..... That was beautifully put. I have never heard it put better. I'm gonna cry a little. I remember some of the absolutely suicidally dumb things my brothers used to do, and the things we were allowed to do, and I cringe.
I couldn't imagine sending my kids outside to play now and not seeing them till dark. Or be home alone all day in the summer. But then again we used to sled down the roof with cardboard boxes.... Which rocked. I remember seeing the internet become a real thing, cell phones that had battery packs that were 12 lbs, and when girls started making noise, we watched equal rights start to gain real momentum. We saw more advancement in our childhood than anyone ever has.
Spaceminer said:
Plenty would call me a millennial and I'd argue against it. (1987) I couldn't be farther from them in my upbringing, or my current mentality. I like to call anyone from roughly 80'-89' the "latchkey" or "MTV" generation. We're a very small and obscure group. Turn dial phones, internet wasn't even a dream yet, pop-ice, music on MTV, cassette tapes, aluminum foil wrapped antennas, VHS, NES... The phone book and encyclopedias were the closest thing we had to Google.
Most of us either grew up in a broken home, or had little to no supervision because both parents had to work. We raised ourselves. We were self made, and we had to be. A real, "by the bootstraps" generation. We were quick to give someone the finger, but just as quick to hold the door for an old lady. We took sh*t from no one and always stuck up for the little guy. I'm still this way. You folks really take me back.
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"76" here. I think you still count at the tail end of gen x. Similar stories anyways. VHS, NES, all the goods. I was in grade school in the 80's. 89 might have been junior high.

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