Database Users

Dropped top half in water

Well, my MT4G was dropped in a cup of tea (long story) and the top half was submerged in water for maybe 4-6 seconds. I immediately pulled the battery, removed the micro-SD and SIM cards and put the phone in rice. The screen looked like there was water in it. At first I thought it was inside the screen protector, but it turns out it wasn't. How long should I leave it in the rice? Also, has anyone else had their MT4G fall in water? If so, did it function after drying it?

at LEAST 24 hours. Water isn't what causes issues with phones, its the corrosion and shorts it causes that are the problem.

i dropped my mt3g in a half full 5gal bucket of clean water. it ruined the battery, but after leaving it in a bag of rice for about 24hrs it was fully functional again. not sure how that will translate to the mt4g, but that's my history with water & rice. good luck

It seems like it wasn't damaged too bad considering everyone else whose dropped it have either submerged it or had it wet for a long time. Anyways, I hope it still works.

I dropped mine in a clean toilet with the led flashlight on at 330 am.lol it was pretty funny to see a toilet lit up like that! I pulled the battery asap and It was in rice 36 hours and all was good it did have a little discoloration in the screen first run but it cleared up after a few hours on. Hope you get as lucky as I did.
ELBdelorean said:
Well, my MT4G was dropped in a cup of tea (long story) and the top half was submerged in water for maybe 4-6 seconds. I immediately pulled the battery, removed the micro-SD and SIM cards and put the phone in rice. The screen looked like there was water in it. At first I thought it was inside the screen protector, but it turns out it wasn't. How long should I leave it in the rice? Also, has anyone else had their MT4G fall in water? If so, did it function after drying it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

option94 said:
at LEAST 24 hours. Water isn't what causes issues with phones, its the corrosion and shorts it causes that are the problem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats it exactly. Considering what the phone was dropped in was not plain water, he will have major issues. I doubt just drying it out is enough. If the tea had sugar in it, the problem is worse still. The compounds in tea and sugar will be conductive and corrosive, that is bad, even if it was fully dry there will be problems.
You need to seriously clean the device now. Use 100% pure isopropyl alcohol or pure denatured alcohol to clean electronics. And it would be best to take apart the outside case and expose the circuits. Use a spray bottle and spray it down until it comes clean. The alcohol will clean the tea out and it drives off the water. heck, you could dunk the phone in it a few times even. Just let the alcohol dry for several hours in a warm spot, air movement will help as well. Alcohol is perfectly safe for electronics, it is all that I use when doing repairs. Isopropyl is what is used in rubbing alcohol, but that is not 100% isopropyl so do not use that.
First advice though, before breaking into the phone to clean it, check the water exposure sticker. If it is not discolored meaning that it was exposed to water, clean the outside of the phone with alcohol well, and send it in for warranty if it does not work.
Never really understood how the rice thing works, seems if it did draw out the water, you could cook rice by leaving it out on a humid day. Maybe in the closed system inside a sealed container, it evens out the humidity level and allows the water to evaporate naturally more quickly.

Marine6680 said:
Thats it exactly. Considering what the phone was dropped in was not plain water, he will have major issues. I doubt just drying it out is enough. If the tea had sugar in it, the problem is worse still. The compounds in tea and sugar will be conductive and corrosive, that is bad, even if it was fully dry there will be problems.
First advice though, before breaking into the phone to clean it, check the water exposure sticker. If it is not discolored meaning that it was exposed to water, clean the outside of the phone with alcohol well, and send it in for warranty if it does not work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was just water that had a teabag in it. No sugar. Also, where is the water exposure sticker?

Bottom half lol under battery it should be a white circle not red at all. Its possible it has an internal one but I'm not tearing in to mine to find out
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

I just took the phone out real quick to look at it, and it's been about 22 hours. I didn't put the battery in yet, but the screen still looks like there is water in it. In the top left corner, it looks like there is water there. If it's still the same after 22 hours, how much longer should I leave it in there? Also, the water indicator looks like it's white. I'll try and post some pictures later.

ELBdelorean said:
It was just water that had a teabag in it. No sugar. Also, where is the water exposure sticker?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ELBdelorean said:
I just took the phone out real quick to look at it, and it's been about 22 hours. I didn't put the battery in yet, but the screen still looks like there is water in it. In the top left corner, it looks like there is water there. If it's still the same after 22 hours, how much longer should I leave it in there? Also, the water indicator looks like it's white. I'll try and post some pictures later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How long had it been brewing? If it was still mostly clear, you should be ok, but if not the compounds in the tea can cause issues.
With that much water, it could take a long time. The longer the water sits in the phone the worse it gets. Standing water like that is never good.

forgive my ignorance. but why 4-6 secs?
usually when a phone drops into water i would expect it to be pulled out within 1-2 secs..lol
but good luck, hope all turns out good for you

I turned the phone on and it works fine except for the screen which still has water in it. Here are some pics:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Any ideas on how to get it out? The rice doesn't seem to be taking the water out of the screen because it looks exactly the same as about 30 hours ago.

Mine had discoloration but not actual water as yours does. After I left it on and charging with stay awake checked it dried it out, after about 2 hours. Its best though to let it dry while OFF.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

You may need to crack it open, water needs exposure to evaporate efficiently. If your cracking it open, it wouldnt hurt to clean it with isopropyl like I mentioned.
If worse comes to pass, get insurance on your plan, and make a claim.

I managed to get the water out of the screen but it left a water spot where it was. Is there any way to get that off without opening the phone?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Just wanted to share my experience:
Woke up much earlier than usual due to work, and dropped the phone in the toilet. I grabbed it out within a couple seconds, pulled out the battery, dried everything as much as I could with kleenex, used a vaccuum to get as much out as I could, then tossed it in a zip locked bag full of rice for 48 hrs.
Phone worked as normal afterwards. $$ saved!

on my first mytouch, I actually wanted to see how it would react to water. turned it on and left it in a sink full of cold water for about 15 mins. took it out and gave it a good shake to get most of the water out. then I just set it out on my desk, no rice or anything. after 2 full days, I put the battery back in and it booted back up just fine, no discoloration or water in the screen...no hiccups in performance or anything. I wouldnt recommend anyone to just go throw their phone in some water, but this is what I experienced

official acer case pictures

it fits perfectly and feels good
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

link? price?

kmetek said:
link? price?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got mine in Wisconsin at Staples store for $40. Or you could order form staples.com
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

I have the case. Not super crazy about it, but better than the tablet being it's naked slippery self. Tight fit getting it on or off, but still slips in the case just a tiny bit in use. The slipping causes things like the front facing web cam will not be aligned it its port.
The actual opening to get the tablet inside is at the bottom of the case when the cover is open in "stand mode" so that can allow the above mentioned slipping also.
The stand function is passable, but I think the angle it creates is a bit too shallow and causes the screen to catch glare from overhead lights. I would like if it stood the tablet a little more upright to escape that glare.
I've seen a very similar case for the iPad series, so we are not alone.
So, not perfect, but better than nothing.

isn't it the same thing like the official ipad 1 case last year

timehunter said:
So, not perfect, but better than nothing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. I kinda like mine but would really prefer a slim well fitting leather folio. One nice feature of the case is it doesn't weigh much, so your tablet still feels very light in your hand, which is never the situation with a leather case.
The stand angle is definitely crap though - if I set it on my desk at work it invariably reflects the overhead lights into my eyes. The ability to adjust it even slightly would make that easier.
And agreed - the tablet sure moves around inside the case a lot considering how tight it fits.

the stand position is actually pretty nice for me. i use it at my desk at home (with lamp light, no overhead) so thats probably why i like it. but the only thing i dont like is the cheaply velcro used (seems to undo to easily, i would prefer magnets like a cell phone case) and the slipping out during use. other than that i like it

I've got one of these too, and I noticed that if the slightest bit of anything gets on it, it looks ugly. It was on a table when a bottle of soda got spilled, only a few drops hit it, and you can see exactly where those drops hit it at.
As far as the case goes, it would be a lot better if the flap was magnetic, and if there was something for it to catch on on the back when it's flat. It's obnoxious to have to deal with putting it into the stand shape when you're just holding it to check your e-mail.

netham45 said:
I've got one of these too, and I noticed that if the slightest bit of anything gets on it, it looks ugly. It was on a table when a bottle of soda got spilled, only a few drops hit it, and you can see exactly where those drops hit it at.
As far as the case goes, it would be a lot better if the flap was magnetic, and if there was something for it to catch on on the back when it's flat. It's obnoxious to have to deal with putting it into the stand shape when you're just holding it to check your e-mail.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At least the case did its job and protected the tablet from your soda damage. Also, the case cleans pretty easily with a damp cloth.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk

I have had the Acer case for a couple of weeks. It feels like wetsuit material. but does the job, and it is easy to wipe any dirt off it. I did cut a inverted 'V' so that the microphone was not obstructed.
All the ports are easy to get to but, nevertheless, exposed. So, I wanted a sleeve that I could slip the tablet into when placing it in my briefcase, and I found the attached at a store that sells Japanese goods (the case is actually from China.) See attached photo.
This fits the A500 in the Acer case very nicely, and good enough to take into a meeting.
The cost of the case: $1.50.
ps. The store is Daiso Japan and the item is Plastic Case (B5) 497 990 9845 486. Nothing unique about it and I am sure you can find similar ones around from other stores.

I bought this case and am not too thrilled about it. I already have an Arkon stand so the built-in stand function is kind of useless, and really just makes that side of the cover really flimsy. The case attracts too much "stuff" and degrades the look of the product and it doesnt fit like a glove as you'd think. I also dont like how it doesnt cover up the bottom of the A500 at all, nor the fact that if you dont use the stand fuction, the tablet has a tendency to fall out of the case, since its on "backwards."
that... and the smell... ugh.

Amazon has it on sale today for 29 bucks
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A...14JA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1307123390&sr=8-2

second that on the smell i bought a 10 inch netbook bag today to replace the case

I have the official case and am about to ditch it for a folio style from ebay.
Not only does it look tatty when it is on, it's almost impossible to clean the screen with it on, as all the dust etc collects in the corners, and constant removal and replacement has stretched the opening so I now have the dreaded 'slide' effect.
In addition to this, obviously something abrasive has got between the screen and the case (still waiting for my screen protector to arrive) and put a tiny gouge in the screen on the black bezel near the docking connector - rather knocking on the head the assertion that this is covered in 'Gorilla Glass'.
And lets be honest, the Iconia is a beautiful looking bit of kit, and putting it in the official case makes it look rubbish.
In all, 30 quid wasted!

This case is pretty much garbage. I've had it as long as it's been out and here's the low-down...
When you get it, it reeks. I thought that the shipment of cases was accidentally dropped in a puddle of gasoline. But it turned out that was just from the material the case was made of. It did go away eventually though. It took about 30-40 days but now my case is reek-free.
The second problem was the slip issue. The tab slides down at about 3-4mm, which may not seem like a lot, but it's actually the perfect annoying amount. It causes the front camera to be blocked by the case itself, the speakers to not line up correctly, the bottom part of the front side of the case comes close to blocking you from using the task bar buttons efficiently, and the ambient light sensor is blocked. Some members on here have recommended double sided tape, but don't waste your time. It just slows the slipping down and it doesn't stick to well to the case material. Now I have an entire roll of Scotch double-sided tape that I will never use. However, I have found great success with heavy duty Velcro. I bought a pack with two strips from Staples and used half of one of the strips, cut into 2 and popped them on either side of the Acer logo on the back of the unit. It holds okay with the case material, creates just enough wedge pressure in the back, while allowing you to take the tablet out of the case if you really want to. My front camera and taskbar buttons have not been blocked at all since implementing this Velcro. One user here mentioned that they did some sewing and sewed the unit into the case at the opening and that works well. If my Velcro doesn't work as a more subtle solution long-term, I may go in that direction. I can't help but wonder if the case was made upside-down, would we have the slip problems at all (the opening is at the bottom when you hold it naturally).
The best thing about this case, though (and why I keep bothering to attempt to fix it) is that I love its stand features. The stand on the back is nice, and frankly, better than some of those ugly alternative bulky stands out there. I can stand it up on the table while sitting and eating, or flip it upside down and use the slighter stand to ramp it up just enough while laying down in bed.
Sent from my A500 using XDA Premium App

I bought this case a while back and have not had any problems with it. It's easy to clean with a damp cloth, and protects my tablet. I have not had any issues with my tablet slipping yet. The stand also seems to be stable enough for me. The one thing I did do though was remove the Velcro and glue two tiny rare earth magnets in their place. Now the case snaps shut and stays shut. I wish I could add one more magnet to keep the cover open when holding the tablet.

ReganH22 said:
I bought this case a while back and have not had any problems with it. It's easy to clean with a damp cloth, and protects my tablet. I have not had any issues with my tablet slipping yet. The stand also seems to be stable enough for me. The one thing I did do though was remove the Velcro and glue two tiny rare earth magnets in their place. Now the case snaps shut and stays shut. I wish I could add one more magnet to keep the cover open when holding the tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since implementing the Velcro solution mentioned in my previous post, no interference from slipping! Recommend!

Yeah I might try the Velcro if I start having problems with it slipping.

[GUIDE] Reduce Fingerprints...

I wrote about it today on my blog: STEPS TO REDUCE FINGERPRINTS
I'd love for you guys to post your thoughts and pics (before and after).
I take no credit for this... it is pretty common if you search Google.
EDIT: Rain-X is toxic. I've read a lot and never seen a warning/concern about it once it has dried on the screen, but just so you are aware. I'd want to know if my kid was playing with my tablet. Again, not certain if there is an issue, use your own judgement.
--- pasted below without the formatting so you do not have to go there ---
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
We all love our phones and our tablets. Their amazing devices that can either allow us to be more productive or to escape from a busy work day. Most devices have their on unique issues, albeit hardware or software related. There is one common issue with almost every device though… Fingerprints.
I am a very big Type A personality, in some respects. Fingerprints on my screen drive me absolutely crazy. I have a micro-fiber cloth at work, in my car and on my bedside table. For those who could care less, this article is not for you.
Goal:
Reduce (can’t eliminate entirely) fingerprints… make the finger swiping silky smooth on the screen… make the screen LOOK great.
How:
1 – Buy some Rain-X (other products MAY work, but I can’t say with certainty).
2 – Power down your device. Clean your tablet/phone’s screen with a micro-fiber cloth. To the point you can’t see any swirls/marks.
3 – Apply some Rain-X (not dripping wet) to the micro-fiber cloth. Be very careful to not have an excessive amount and to only apply on the glass. Do not touch the outer frame of your phone or tablet, it could remove the finish. In a swirling motion rub in the Rain-X like you wax your car. If it beads up on the screen, just keep rubbing it in. DO NOT dump Rain-X directly on the screen… only apply in small amounts using the micro-fiber to apply.
4 – Eventually you are going to have a hazy look. If you have rubbed it in entirely and there is no longer any moisture on the screen, grab a fresh micro-fiber and buff it out so it looks silky smooth.
5 – Go wash and dry your hands. Let the phone/tablet soak in its new shiny glory. Seriously… clean hands and letting the Rain-X sit for a bit help. Do it.
6 – Power up the device and begin using it. You should notice much less finger print smudges and the screen should feel great to the touch (as well as be a bit shinier).
This is something that shocked me when I first read it on the web, but it appears to be working great. Just use caution…. do not use too much when applying, and never directly on the screen should it be poured. Seems like you may want to do it every month or so to keep it looking great.
Hope this helps… let me know!
Oh, in case you were going to say…. why not just get a screen protector? I absolutely hate the look and feel of those. I want to touch the glass and it feel sexy when doing so. Not a sheet of plastic. To each their own… I know some swear by them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Oh man this is awesome... probably going to try this! Thanks!

Took me all of 30 secs to go to the garage and come back with the rain-x. I finished 10 minutes ago , and MAN is this screen smooth. My wife is making me rain-x her screen right now . Thanks
Sent from my T959 using XDA App

Ill hace to give rain x a try. I use car wax regularly tho. Makes wiping off prints easier.

Another tip is try not to touch the screen that much.

iynfynity said:
Another tip is try not to touch the screen that much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or lick it.
/sarcasm.

Yup, Rain-X works wonders, but I've found another method that works just as well or even better I think. Carnauba wax, the paste kind you use for your car. It inhibits finger prints really well!
1) Prepare your phone, clean it before hand with a quality microfiber.
2) Use one finger of your choice , smear some wax (note: be conservative, you don't need a lot. I usually just do a quick swipe of the wax) on your tip of your finger. And be careful not to get it onto the ear-piece or any other crevices. I usually use blue painters masking tape and tape the areas that needs protection before I attempted this.
3) Start rubbing it onto the screen. From the center and working your way out.
4) Wait for a couple of minutes
5) Start buffing with a clean microfiber cloth.
6) And your done
Cheers!

Cheap and Fun Way to Clean Your Phone Surface
Hello folks,
I found a cheapest and confusing way to clean the phone surface. It's confusing because there are Plan A and Plan B. Please get your popcorn and soda and share
Disclaimer: I will not responsible for anything that may go wrong with your device or your action
Warning: The following procedural may not suitable for young reader, please read at your won risk. If you know how to read, you are OK to proceed.
How many of you have seen ladies pull the hair off their armpits? (Just to grab attention)
Warning this video is very graphic --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCMXCuVeAaM
As you can see, the lady applies some sticky jell (I'm sure it's not a crazy clue or she will peal her skin off) on the area where she wants to remove the hair. I don't have to describe this, you are old enough to watch this video. But be warned that she will scream her lung out sounds like… Meo
Joking aside, let's begin our adventure to the land that no man has gone before.
Plan A
1. Turn your house upside down (if you have a strength) to find a scotch tape (Be careful, this is a slang. It means you search every where in your home for a scotch tape)
If no scotch tape found, go to plan B
2. Pull about 2" from the scotch tape roll and snap it off. If you couldn't snap it off, use the scissor to cut it off.
3. Place the sticky side of the scotch tape on the phone surface (I repeat, DO NOT APPLY ANY STICKY JELL ON YOUR PHONE! ) Am I clear?
4. Remove the scotch tape gently without disturbing your phone peaceful sleep.
5. Repeat step 3 through 4 as many time as you like.
6. The same as step 5. Just to make sure.
Plan B
1. Go to the 99 cents store by plan, by train, by car, or whatever that can get you there (If there is no 99 cents store near you, get a plan ticket and come to southern california. *not necessary lolz)
2. Walk in the store and ask the clerk to help you find the scotch tape
3. Take the scotch tape to the counter and pay for it. If you don't pay, you will get a free ride to the big house (jail). And don't forget to take the scotch tape with you when finish. It's OK to leave some changes for the clerk.
4. Go home, find a place or restroom that you feel comfortable enough to perform your phone cleaning. Make sure no one see you using a scotch tape to clean your phone or that person will call you a cheap azz.
Enjoy

I liked your post because I laughed, lulz. ^

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

I came.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda premium

That is not safe, especially if you have small children who could potentially handle your phone and then put their hands in their mouths. Really... It blows my mind what people will propagate here...

N8ter said:
That is not safe, especially if you have small children who could potentially handle your phone and then put their hands in their mouths. Really... It blows my mind what people will propagate here...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the OP specifically warned of the toxicity of rain-x, so what's your point?
Unless it was added in later and I didn't know. Then I apologize for this post
Sent from my ICS'd Vibrant!

I'm repeating it, because the disclaimer was in a sea of "Yay!"
A friend of mind used something to clean my screen he used a Microfibre. I don't know what it is, but my screen was immaculate when he was done. I need to find out what he used. It dried in like 20 seconds and it looked like it just came from the manufacturer...
I don't tend to have much issue with fingerprints, though. The screen is so bright it just overpowers that stuff. My HD7 is a different matter altogether, but I'm probably going to switch my daily driver back to my Vibrant soon...

[Q] Nexus 4 takes a swim in the toilet

This is a "what would you do?" thread.
Last night, I dropped not one, but two phones in the toilet. I was cleaning the bowl, so there was Comet in the water as well. One phone was my Nexus 4, the other my (work) Blackberry Torch. The torch has been pronounced dead and replaced already. The Nexus 4....
I pulled it out almost immediately. It was in the water for maybe 1 second. I first turned it off, then patted it dry with a towel. At this point, the phone appeared dry. I turned it this way and that, and no water came out. So far, so good. I left it on a towel overnight, propped up with the headphone jack down, in the bathroom, with a space heater on but not blowing directly on it, though there was moving air. I took it to work with me this morning and laid it on a paper towel to see if there was any evidence of water. There wasn't. I turned it on for a moment and made a call. The call was clear on both ends. I turned it off again, and put it in a ziploc bag with a packet of clay dessicant, where it remains. The only evidence I can find is a touch of residue from the cleaner at the top edge of the headphone jack, which I wiped off. I took the SIM out, and could find no evidence of water intrusion.
So, my question is, where to go from here? I've heard that using alcohol (denatured or 99% isopropyl) might be appropriate, but at this point I wonder if that would just do more damage. Do I leave it off and in the bag with the dessicant for a while? Do I just use it and hope for the best? Thanks for any input.
-Matt

whosmatt said:
This is a "what would you do?" thread.
Last night, I dropped not one, but two phones in the toilet. I was cleaning the bowl, so there was Comet in the water as well. One phone was my Nexus 4, the other my (work) Blackberry Torch. The torch has been pronounced dead and replaced already. The Nexus 4....
I pulled it out almost immediately. It was in the water for maybe 1 second. I first turned it off, then patted it dry with a towel. At this point, the phone appeared dry. I turned it this way and that, and no water came out. So far, so good. I left it on a towel overnight, propped up with the headphone jack down, in the bathroom, with a space heater on but not blowing directly on it, though there was moving air. I took it to work with me this morning and laid it on a paper towel to see if there was any evidence of water. There wasn't. I turned it on for a moment and made a call. The call was clear on both ends. I turned it off again, and put it in a ziploc bag with a packet of clay dessicant, where it remains. The only evidence I can find is a touch of residue from the cleaner at the top edge of the headphone jack, which I wiped off. I took the SIM out, and could find no evidence of water intrusion.
So, my question is, where to go from here? I've heard that using alcohol (denatured or 99% isopropyl) might be appropriate, but at this point I wonder if that would just do more damage. Do I leave it off and in the bag with the dessicant for a while? Do I just use it and hope for the best? Thanks for any input.
-Matt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should put the phone into warm (uncook) rice. Put large amount of the rice over your phone. I'm not kidding. It will save your phone. Do not
cook the rice....Put your phone with UNCOOK rice.

zxcv106106 said:
You should put the phone into warm (uncook) rice. Put large amount of the rice over your phone. I'm not kidding. It will save your phone. Do not
cook the rice....Put your phone with UNCOOK rice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the clay dessicant is doing the same thing. Is rice somehow better?

zxcv106106 said:
You should put the phone into warm (uncook) rice. Put large amount of the rice over your phone. I'm not kidding. It will save your phone. Do not
cook the rice....Put your phone with UNCOOK rice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes this workss!! make sure u put it on airtight plastic bag or container fully covered ur phone with rice make sure take the sim tray out ....at least put it for 72 hrs......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Fpb3UjHY

Rice works! Its a well known trick.
Sounds like you were lucky. If you turned it on and made a call with it then it sounds fine. I'd take it all apart and clean it.

scottx . said:
Rice works! Its a well known trick.
Sounds like you were lucky. If you turned it on and made a call with it then it sounds fine. I'd take it all apart and clean it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Guess I'll have to google for a take-apart guide for the nexus 4. I really wish there was a high end android phone that was as tough as my motorola defy. I put that thing through the ringer, including salt water, and what finally killed it was a drop that busted the screen..... It was also really easy to disassemble, having replaced the earpiece. May it rest in piece(s).
-M

RICE IS THE WAY TO GO ! , when i was younger riced saved my gameboy advanced SP ! and it saved my aunts mytouch 3g , just make sure you turn off the phone as soon as you can so it wont short circuit

SneakyGuyDavid said:
RICE IS THE WAY TO GO ! , when i was younger riced saved my gameboy advanced SP ! and it saved my aunts mytouch 3g , just make sure you turn off the phone as soon as you can so it wont short circuit
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
God dang it. I hate your avatar. It creeps me out! Stop smiling at me!

just realized i've been misspelling "desiccant" sorry

Get rid of it before it dies within 30 days. U should have not turned it on without first making sure all water dried. It will work once the water fully penetrates into the circuits inside the phone. Google it you have plenty of cases. The rice works if u use it right away without turning phone on but now u turned it on rice is useless cuz all that water already inside penetrating.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

Sorry fo rthe stupid Qs BUT does the phone need to be in some covering like a plastic bag? Or just the bare phone in a jar filled with rice?
I am asking this because usually the rice contain A LOT of dust (at least in this part of world it does).

rice works in a pinch but the stuff the OP put it in is what is shipped in various items to keep dry from hot cold climate changes. It is really the best thing to use to dry a phone out if you have a large amount. Rice works but it can get residue in the device via the headphone plug and the usb port.
I would leave it in the silica gel for a day. No joke a full 24 hours. I do not advocate returning it and pretending it never touched water. I would call google up and tell them your story. Sometimes you get a rep that will not make a note on your account. I understand these things arent cheap to replace but be honest and you might get a really compassionate rep that will work a deal with you. I also suggest contacting maybe something like square trade and see what their policy is on water damaged devices. My sister bought a used tablet and the usb port broke she paid square-trade like 20 bucks for the warranty and then 50 bucks to fix it.

Bare. How would rice help if it wasn't in the same bag?

Odp: [Q] Nexus 4 takes a swim in the toilet
One guy ask in one thread "why u here if you love stock ROM?" and here is one of answers for this question. For knowledge, hints like that one. I didn't know how to act when my phone get into water. Thx guys.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

whosmatt said:
Guess I'll have to google for a take-apart guide for the nexus 4. I really wish there was a high end android phone that was as tough as my motorola defy. I put that thing through the ringer, including salt water, and what finally killed it was a drop that busted the screen..... It was also really easy to disassemble, having replaced the earpiece. May it rest in piece(s).
-M
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's a good guide on how to disassemble the Nexus 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZDAIgwbXk4
filthykid said:
Sorry fo rthe stupid Qs BUT does the phone need to be in some covering like a plastic bag? Or just the bare phone in a jar filled with rice?
I am asking this because usually the rice contain A LOT of dust (at least in this part of world it does).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The idea behind it is that the rice will absorb any water left behind in the phone, so it has to go in without anything that stops the rice from drawing the moisture. An alternative for rice is the method eollie mentions.

Wiggierip said:
Here's a good guide on how to disassemble the Nexus 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZDAIgwbXk4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, the phone is fine. I took it apart and found only minimal evidence of water intrusion around the headphone jack and USB port and speaker. It was entirely dry, and I took the USB port and speaker out out and cleaned the board with a Q-tip and denatured alcohol and put it back together, even the water indicator was still white.
Made a call, sounds good on both ends. Thanks for the video, that helped immensely. Never thought of using a guitar pick.

A bit more...
I have to say that in hindsight, turning the phone upside down to dry was a fortuitous move on my part, as that allowed the water that entered through the headphone jack to pool at the edge of the case to dry... most of the main electronics are in the upper half of the phone.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I wish I had taken more pics after I broke the phone down some more, but that gives you an idea of what was in there... it apparently wasn't much. The white residue is the Comet cleaner that was in the water.

My wife dropped her Razr M in the toilet. RICE in a BAG even with the phone left on, If you try to use any buttons, the water has a greater chance to enter the motherboard. Rice DOES WORK!

use uncle bens rice...its has the most flavor
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

If your going to take apart the unit you can put the board its self in a bag of 99% isopropyl alcohol.
Ive done that with a few iPhone boards at my shop and they have worked well.
The main thing is to remove the battery as soon as possible. As long as the battery has a charge and still connected to the phone, (even if its off) current can still flow thru the board. When this happens AND if any of the water or corrosive material is in the unit, the chemical break down can and will occur. Once you start to get rust on the board you will then start to get some major problems.
The sooner you can get it apart and use the alcohol to flush out the water / contaminants and then let it dry naturally the better chance you have of a full recovery.
Use the alcohol to remove the contaminants off the board and electronics and plastics. Feel free to use a small paint brush or something to get the toilet water and comet cleaner out of the unit.

Sanded, polished, etched the back case of my phone.

THE STORY:
Since I bought this phone I wanted to do something to the back cover, I just wasn't sure what. Plus I wasn't really set on the idea of doing something to risk damaging a perfectly good (and new at the time) phone. That was until about 2 months ago when I managed to put a small hairline crack in the digitizer. Since the phone was no longer undamaged, yet still 100% functional, I figured why the hell not customize it.
I read awhile ago on XDA about some users discussing what the phone would look like with a polished look but no one was willing to take the plunge. This seemed like a good/fun project now that I didn't care if I screwed it up.
First I used 1000 grit wet/dry sandpaper to remove the anodization. While this method was working, it was painstakingly slow to get to bare metal. The interesting thing about 1000 grit though, it doesn't remove the anodizing right away yet takes out a lot of the minor blemishes due to everyday use. This could in turn be used carefully to remove any dings you have without removing the anodizing. In this photo it is hard to see, but the top half near the camera hasn't been sanded, while near the HTC logo it has.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Since 1000 grit was taking too long, I switched to 400 grit. This seemed to be a decent middle ground. It wasn't too coarse to tear up the aluminum but just enough to take off the anodization a little quicker. You can see I managed to scratch the camera lens cover a bit... don't worry FYI: anodizing can be removed via a chemical bath, but who would be willing to put their whole phone in a vat of liquid....
Now that I was down to bare metal I switched to 3000 grit sandpaper I picked up from O'Reilly's Auto Parts. This smoothed out a lot of the larger scratches from the 400 grit paper and gave a good dull, almost brushed, look to the aluminum.
Now that I had a mostly blemish free surface, I used Turtle Wax Polishing Compound to smooth out any remaining small imperfections. The final step was to use Mothers Aluminum Polish to get a nice mirror finish.
I was pretty satisfied with the result, however, I had to do more...
I recently stumbled across this article on Hack A Day which gave me the inspiration to do the same.
For everyone's information, after polishing the back, this is what your phone will look like after 2 weeks of typical use (for me at least).
Before I started the etching process I had to give the back cover a good re-polishing. Once that was complete I decided on the design I wanted. Typically in most DIY etching, people use some kind of paint or resist to block the areas they don't want etched. Luckily I have an awesome brother-in-law who recently got a hold of an old plotter. So I whipped up a design in Illustrator and he took care of getting me a vinyl cutout to use. Of course I had to go with the two sites I frequent the most as my design... (yes, I know it's a little off center. I got in a hurry ha-ha)
Instead of going with a vinegar and salt solution for my etchant. I decided on a mix of Copper Sulfate, Sodium Bisulfate and table salt. I used a 45% Copper Sulfate, 45% salt, and 10% Sodium Bisulfate mix.
The Copper Sulfate comes as a chunky blue rock/crystal. So I hit it with the mortar and pestle to make dissolve better in water.
After mixing everything in hot water it was time to etch. I used an old 12 volt 1000ma wall wart I had sitting around for my power source. I wired the phone by wrapping it with 1 foot of bare copper wire and tightly wrapping the wire with electrical tape to make sure it would contact the aluminum. I wrapped another wire around a cotton swab tip and connected it to the negative terminal of the wall wart. After making sure the phone was powered off. I connected the positive terminal of the wall wart to the bare wire attached to the phone, making sure it was in contact with the aluminum by testing it with a voltmeter.
Once satisfied with the etch, I cleaned the surface off with a damp paper towel. All that was left was another polish with the Turtle Wax and the Mothers Aluminum Polish. Here is the final result.
A couple of notes:
1. The phone "seems" to get warmer than what it did before (only while watching videos or playing a graphics heavy game). I haven't checked/compared the actual stats, it's just what I have noticed while holding phone.
2. The white plastic that separates the top and bottom will get a little grey from the sanding and polishing. Goof off seems to be a great remedy to make them white again.
3. The scratches on the camera lens protective cover were buffed/polished away while using the Turtle Wax Polishing Compound. Also, the scratches were never over the center portion and did not impact the picture quality while they were there anyway.
4. The speaker phone mic will get compound/polish in it, however a light tap on a table, with the mic facing down, while the compound is still wet removes most of it. Any residual stuff left in the small hole can be removed (CAREFULLY) with the tip of an exacto blade.
5. I have not had any issues with my signal, nor any issues with the mic on the phone since doing this.
I shouldn't have to say this, but anyone who tries this, be careful. You can seriously mess up the phone and I am not responsible if you follow my examples and something goes wrong. Do this at your own risk.
If you would like to do this and have questions or need help, let me know.
-Crack

Looks great mate. Don't know if I could be bothered with all the work myself, but props to you for creating such a unique result.

I wonder if it is posible to polish a black one?

zumyman46 said:
I wonder if it is posible to polish a black one?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My brother-in-law's is black... He wants to try all this out, I may report back if he decides to go through with it..

Chrome One...It actually looks amazing.

kinda looks like the m8. Can you put a clear coat or something to seal everything so that it doesnt scratch so easily?

I remember I saw on a truck show there is a sealant that could be used on chrome wheels to keep them shiny and scratch resistant but forgot what the product was called. Without some type of sealant you will get scratches back in no time flat like the I phones do. This is a great idea of if you want a chrome look and the etching is icing on the cake. You are only limited by your imagination. Could really make your phone yours.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

That's awesome mate it looks great in chrome
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

UltraNoob said:
kinda looks like the m8. Can you put a clear coat or something to seal everything so that it doesnt scratch so easily?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought about this since this phone is mostly an experiment before picking up the new M8. I forgot who made it, but there is a spray paint that gives the "appearance" of an anodized metallic look in different colors. I know that sounds counterintuitive since I removed the stock anodization, again, this is mainly an experiment. I was thinking of doing some kind of a fade between two colors and then a clear coat.
robgee789 said:
That's awesome mate it looks great in chrome
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I almost wanted to keep it just chrome without the etch, and I almost stopped after seeing the dull brushed aluminum look because I liked it so much..

robgee789 said:
That's awesome mate it looks great in chrome
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you talking about plastidip??
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

Wow, I've never even imagined the One with a "chrome" look like that. It's gorgeous. Unfortunate that it gets scratched up like that, though.

Wow this is epic. How long did the entire process take all together?

tnx FOR SHARING..
I will start polishing very soon. Tnx for great idea and i will post picture result

Good Job!!

First look. After sandpaper i accidentally damage camera lens. But,i try a tip from youtube with toothpaste and now is maybe better than before everything. Just perfect solution for camera lens.. Now i only need to start polishing with some polish paste and we will see resoults soon..

Crackanug said:
My brother-in-law's is black... He wants to try all this out, I may report back if he decides to go through with it..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will work the same. Anodizing only creates a hardened surface a few microns thick. The sand paper will rub through this quickly leaving the base aluminium colour underneath. The anodize process is what is used to surface harden and create different coloured aluminium surfaces. If your brother in law expects to have a polished black surface afterwards, he won't.

diselhead said:
First look. After sandpaper i accidentally damage camera lens. But,i try a tip from youtube with toothpaste and now is maybe better than before everything. Just perfect solution for camera lens.. Now i only need to start polishing with some polish paste and we will see resoults soon..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks good so far. :good:
CaelanT said:
Will work the same. Anodizing only creates a hardened surface a few microns thick. The sand paper will rub through this quickly leaving the base aluminium colour underneath. The anodize process is what is used to surface harden and create different coloured aluminium surfaces. If your brother in law expects to have a polished black surface afterwards, he won't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I recall, those microns sure put up a good fight against the sand paper...

Crackanug said:
If I recall, those microns sure put up a good fight against the sand paper...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
65-70 HRC..................yes...............very hard surface after anodizing. :fingers-crossed:
Sandpaper is also not the best medium for breaking through it either, but definitely the safest to prevent damaging the aluminium below it.

renehd2 said:
Are you talking about plastidip??
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hot damn this looks gorgeous just plainly polished. The chrome/mirror look is niiiice - might have get scrubbing this afternoon.

I kind of want to sand my One down and hit it with some automotive grade basecoat and a few coats of clear coat. Anyone have any experience? Will it give me the beautiful glossy finish I think it will?