on tmobiles site it advertises that all the new-ish phones have the ability to use HSPA+ do i need to change my APNs on The Aria ROM??? if so What Are the new APNs
You will never be able to use HSPA+ on a Slide, T-Mobile does not claim that you will be able to either.
t-mobile does claim that you can, and you can. i have experienced 6 times faster speed since they turned on the tower near my place. i have HSPA+ at home and now average 3.5-4.5 Mbps rather than the .8 Mbps i had with standard 3G. my apn says epc.tmobile.com i do not know if there are other settings needed, but i am using CM6RC1 and getting phenomenal speeds(compared to some friends that have EVO on 4G)
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t-mobile does claim that you can, and you can. i have experienced 6 times faster speed since they turned on the tower near my place. i have HSPA+ at home and now average 3.5-4.5 Mbps rather than the .8 Mbps i had with standard 3G. my apn says epc.tmobile.com i do not know if there are other settings needed, but i am using CM6RC1 and getting phenomenal speeds(compared to some friends that have EVO on 4G)
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That's cause sprint's "4G" is not as fast as Tmo's HSPA+...There was an article on their speeds on engadget.
that jappened to be my point, i was stating that t-mo was better(faster) and that r0manz was wrong
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that jappened to be my point, i was stating that t-mo was better(faster) and that r0manz was wrong
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I'm not wrong.
There are no HSPA+ phones presently being sold in the United States, that being said you can get up to 7.2mbps on T-Mobile HSPA network at present on the Vibrant, Slide, and others
He's right they can take advantage of the speeds, but are not actually HSPA+ phones, the first one will be the t-mobile G2 as announced by t-mobile.
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This HSPA+ has been pretty awesome..Out of every person I know that has tmobile and a 3G enabled phone I have been the only one able to pick it up and my wife has the Vibrant, plus several others that I know with the Slide and other android phones... It started about a week ago when I first noticed that 3G turn into an H. I am running the latest CyanogenMod and I have not altered any settings on my phone whatsoever. The only thing I have been able to come up with is that its because of the Froyo ROM... Anyone agree?? But this s**t is great! I ran a speedtest while I was at work yesterday and I almost got a 6 Mbps connection and a 1.5 Mbps upload while connected to the HSPA network!!!
But like others said earlier in the thread our Slides will not be able to take full advantage of the HSPA+ speeds and will never be able to...but Ill take it because its just not everyday that a cell phone provider gives you 6x speed boost and doesn't charge you extra for it... GO T-MOBILE!!!
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This HSPA+ has been pretty awesome..Out of every person I know that has tmobile and a 3G enabled phone I have been the only one able to pick it up and my wife has the Vibrant, plus several others that I know with the Slide and other android phones... It started about a week ago when I first noticed that 3G turn into an H. I am running the latest CyanogenMod and I have not altered any settings on my phone whatsoever. The only thing I have been able to come up with is that its because of the Froyo ROM... Anyone agree?? But this s**t is great! I ran a speedtest while I was at work yesterday and I almost got a 6 Mbps connection and a 1.5 Mbps upload while connected to the HSPA network!!!
But like others said earlier in the thread our Slides will not be able to take full advantage of the HSPA+ speeds and will never be able to...but Ill take it because its just not everyday that a cell phone provider gives you 6x speed boost and doesn't charge you extra for it... GO T-MOBILE!!!
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I'm pretty sure the only reason you're getting the "H" instead of the "3G" logo is because in the CyanogenMOD 6 Stable release, the "3G" graphic was replaced with the "H".
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I'm pretty sure the only reason you're getting the "H" instead of the "3G" logo is because in the CyanogenMOD 6 Stable release, the "3G" graphic was replaced with the "H".
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I have not used froyo on the SLide, the "H" icon is included with every rom but if cyan changed the name of the H icon to replace 3G then it would make sense, but i doubt he would do that to trick people. Every rom has the H icon in the framework folder.
He did not replace it, I am running a CM6 rom and in certain areas I will pick up HSPA, but in most places I go in Huntsville, AL its 3G signal, with the 3G icon showing in my status bar.
There is also a noticable difference in browsing and download speeds when I am able to pull HSPA, so its not just displaying it in error.
On the stock ROM you never see the "H" icon, but if I look in About Phone -> Network I often see "HSDPA" under mobile network type. I assume T-Mobile has mapped the 3G icon to that network type to minimize user confusion. I also see the 3G icon when connected to a UMTS network.
As has been pointed out earlier, that doesn't mean you will get the HSPA+ speeds and in fact they haven't even rolled out HSPA+ in my area yet.
I am running the latest CM for the slide. Ever since I flashed it, I haven't seen the 3G symbol, only H. I live in Salt Lake City Utah, and according to T-Mobile, they haven't enabled HSPA+ here yet. So I'm not sure why H would be showing up instead of 3G. Since I've tested my speed using the Speedtest.net app, and it comes up with ping 103ms D:637kbps U:759kbps, I highly doubt that is HSPA+ speeds.
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I thought it was the radio update that had the H in it.
Using Chiefz rom I get H when I'm by my school.
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I am running the latest CM for the slide. Ever since I flashed it, I haven't seen the 3G symbol, only H. I live in Salt Lake City Utah, and according to T-Mobile, they haven't enabled HSPA+ here yet. So I'm not sure why H would be showing up instead of 3G. Since I've tested my speed using the Speedtest.net app, and it comes up with ping 103ms D:637kbps U:759kbps, I highly doubt that is HSPA+ speeds.
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Check under settings, about phone, status and look at what it says under Mobile Network Type. If it says HSDPA you will see the H icon, if it say UMTS you will see 3G. The H Icon is showing up because it is the begginings of HSPA+ without the fiber back haul ran to the tower, or they haven't switched it on yet. The phone sees the H network and displays the H icon, it doesn't know that it isn't HSPA+ or HSDPA, if your were still stock you would only ever see 3G.
So does that mean that stock rom (I have ChiefzReloaded's modified 1.35.531 rom) still takes advantage of HSPA+ even though it will only show 3G on the status bar? Or would I have to switch to another ROM to take advantage of it?
I remember when I was testing which rom I liked, I had tried a 2.2 rom and seen the H in my status bar, but never tested the speed. At the moment, I don't get speeds faster than 750 kbps down and 70 kbps up.. really disappointed since they already have HSPA+ here in Houston (and its suburbs).
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So does that mean that stock rom (I have ChiefzReloaded's modified 1.35.531 rom) still takes advantage of HSPA+ even though it will only show 3G on the status bar? Or would I have to switch to another ROM to take advantage of it?
I remember when I was testing which rom I liked, I had tried a 2.2 rom and seen the H in my status bar, but never tested the speed. At the moment, I don't get speeds faster than 750 kbps down and 70 kbps up.. really disappointed since they already have HSPA+ here in Houston (and its suburbs).
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Look to see if youre on UMTS, thats 3G...if it says HSPA then you will see H..
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Check under settings, about phone, status and look at what it says under Mobile Network Type. If it says HSDPA you will see the H icon, if it say UMTS you will see 3G. The H Icon is showing up because it is the begginings of HSPA+ without the fiber back haul ran to the tower, or they haven't switched it on yet. The phone sees the H network and displays the H icon, it doesn't know that it isn't HSPA+ or HSDPA, if your were still stock you would only ever see 3G.
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Mine says HSDPA. So I guess that is because they haven't flipped the switch here yet. Thanks for the information.
I am running a stock ROM and under mobile network type I usually see "HSDPA" even though the "3G" icon appears. The point is that on the stock ROM you will see the "3G" icon whether you are connected to a UMTS or HSDPA network, and on the CM ROM you see the "H" icon when you connect to an HSDPA network. But the icon does not limit your speed. You will still get the benefit of HSDPA (and to some degree HSPA+) networks either way.
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Does anyone here have an HD2 with stock TMO USA ROM in one of TMO's HSPA+ coverage areas? Does the signal indicator remain 3G, or does it switch to the H icon?
I'm not asking for users of cooked ROMs, since we all know the icons can differ depending on what the chef choose to use on their ROM.
i'm in the 904, and mine switches between 3g and h. if i'm in the living room, it stays on h, in the bedroom 3g.
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i'm in the 904, and mine switches between 3g and h. if i'm in the living room, it stays on h, in the bedroom 3g.
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My connection icon goes back and forth between 3G and H a lot, usually flipping to H whenever I connect and am actively passing data, then back to 3G when the connection is on but idle.
I am using a stock ROM, but...I'm using aftermarket taskbar icons for notifications like that. I understand that the stock notification icons don't ever seem to switch to H, only once you have some non-stock icons there does that happen. I don't remeber mine ever switching before I added the new icons.
Honestly though I don't think it does much more right now than let you know you've got a HSPA+ capable link between you and the tower...but from what I've read T-mobile still hasn't yet flipped the switch on the backhaul elements (from the tower to the network) on most of the towers that are ready for it.
EDIT: Also, have you made sure that you have HSDPA enabled in your phone settings?
I am also in Jacksonville Florida (904) I have a cooked ROM, there is a huge difference between the two. So trust me when I say the towers around here are very much active.
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I am also in Jacksonville Florida (904) I have a cooked ROM, there is a huge difference between the two. So trust me when I say the towers around here are very much active.
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Ok awesome then. I'd heard they were still dragging their feet on it, but a small number of places were already feeling the joy
I just ran across this article, which describes a recent release from Tmo listing the markets that already have HSPA+ turned on, and those that are coming next:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/05/hspa-update/
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i'm in the 904, and mine switches between 3g and h. if i'm in the living room, it stays on h, in the bedroom 3g.
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Actually I was digging on this a little more, and saw a thread on ppcgeeks about it that you had posted in lol.
Reading that and some others, it seems that there's a bit of confusion (I was too)...what Tmo has already enabled on the network now is HSPA 7.2, which is not exactly the same thing as the HSPA+ (theoretical limits over 54Mbps). HSPA+ is what's being tested and exists in a few cities now, more coming 2nd half of this year.
I've read confirmation that the HD2 is HSPA 7.2-capable, but I've found nowhere that says for sure that it's able to use HSPA+...lot's of speculation, no hard confirmation. I have however seen several indications that no phones in Tmo's current lineup have the HSPA+ secret sauce
Yeah ive also read that the radio in the HD2 is only HSPA 7.2, here's hoping that at least the the HSPA+ roll out will allow us to make full use of the 7.2 megabits it can pull down.
Question though, if TMO's tower radios are software updatable to HSPA+ then why couldn't the HD2 or any other phone's radio be software updatable to HSPA+ as well?
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I am also in Jacksonville Florida (904) I have a cooked ROM, there is a huge difference between the two. So trust me when I say the towers around here are very much active.
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is the 560kbps in your sig what you're regularly seeing on TMO up there in Jacksonville? cause i don't have much trouble hitting a megabit per second at times here in Tampa.
I hate living in Utah. We are always the last to get these fast speeds.
i live in long beach, ca. and work at the port of los angeles. in these areas, i get a mixture of edge, 3g, and HSPA.
Specifically, I get a mixture of Edge and HSPA here at home. I get mostly HSPA when I'm driving outside the house locally.
I get mostly HSPA and a little 3g mixture at work.
I get a good mix of H, 3G and E in my area....im in Jersey..less than 10 minutes from NYC
Weird thing is i was getting HSPA (The H symbol on the signal strength thingy) since a month back. I am in the 818 area (Los Angeles - The valley)
im in the philadelphia market area where it started and with the shipped rom my device was in 3g mode all the time didnt notice that it was on h mode till i put on a cooked rom now i never see the 3g icon its always in h but the 3g will come and go to h as it pleases depending on location and if the hspa covers that area
Guys there is a difference between HSPA+ and HSDPA/HSUPA..
HSDPA/HSUPA is capable of maximum speeds of 7.2 mbps, but HSPA+ is theoretically capable of maximum speeds of 56 mbps, ofcourse us end users never see anything near the maximum. Optimistically it should increase the AVERAGE throughput or download speed for us on HSDPA as the backend at the cell towers will have much more capabilities.
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Guys there is a difference between HSPA+ and HSDPA/HSUPA..
HSDPA/HSUPA is capable of maximum speeds of 7.2 mbps, but HSPA+ is theoretically capable of maximum speeds of 56 mbps, ofcourse us end users never see anything near the maximum. Optimistically it should increase the AVERAGE throughput or download speed for us on HSDPA as the backend at the cell towers will have much more capabilities.
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Very true, and commonly confused by many.
Although HSPA7.2 is technically already available in all of T-Mobile's existing 3G markets, like inf3rno said those with compatible handsets (HD2, etc) probably won't see everything it can deliver until the HSPA+ capable backend is turned up on your local towers.
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Very true, and commonly confused by many.
Although HSPA7.2 is technically already available in all of T-Mobile's existing 3G markets, like inf3rno said those with compatible handsets (HD2, etc) probably won't see everything it can deliver until the HSPA+ capable backend is turned up on your local towers.
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I keep getting conflicting answers. Is the t-mobile HD2 HSPA+ capable? Either now or with future rom updates? I am very curious.
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I keep getting conflicting answers. Is the t-mobile HD2 HSPA+ capable? Either now or with future rom updates? I am very curious.
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I too am keeping my eyes open for a more solid answer to that question. The most believeable-sounding one I've seen so far indicates that NO current hardware is HSPA+ capable (including the HD2), not until certain new models are released later this year (and no, I didn't see any sign of which exact ones will have that).
So, I'm expecting to not fully benefit from HSPA+ (as opposed to HSPA7.2)....but I could certainly be wrong, and would love it if I were!
7.2 is fine with me. 21 or less would be great, but can't get everything. Besides, i would not expect to reach anywhere near 21 megs down. Or i won't believe it until i see proof or see it in person. lol.
I'm in NYC, have HD2 stock rom pluse cookies home tab.
i did mobile speed test, and speedtest . i get 1847kbps down and 650kbps up. ive never seen a H on my handset but i get faster then hspda speeds. the other night i got 9 mbps down and 4mbps up.
For those who live in an area with HSPA+, I was wondering if it would show an H for HSPA+ (like e for edge, E for EDGE, 3G for well...,) on the stock ROM. Because I live in Los Angeles and it looks like T-Mobile is finally rolling out HSPA+ out here in their latest press release and would like to know what connection my phone is using. (Current ROM/Radio in my sig.)
I think you would have to load a custom rom or cab file for that. I still use the stock rom as well and only see 3g here in Tampa. Try doing a search.
i have a question live in nj and i know that hspa is in ny. i just did a speed test at speakeasy.net/speedtest and i got 3.29mbps download and 1.14 mbps upload. sorry i am a noob when it comes to this is this any good. not to mention tmo hasnt announced hspa in nj
i am also interested in knowing if angone does get an h cuz i only see 3g
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For those who live in an area with HSPA+, I was wondering if it would show an H for HSPA+ (like e for edge, E for EDGE, 3G for well...,) on the stock ROM. Because I live in Los Angeles and it looks like T-Mobile is finally rolling out HSPA+ out here in their latest press release and would like to know what connection my phone is using. (Current ROM/Radio in my sig.)
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Im in Tampa, one of the markets just officially announced as having HSPA+. HSPA+ was actually turned on here in Tampa last week. I had a Tmobile sales rep visit the company I work for yesterday and he confirmed it was turned on last Wed, I noticed the speed bump last Thur
However the indicator still shows 3g
I love how fast I can upload full 5mpix images to twitpic now, used to have to sit and twiddle my thumbs for about a minute or two. They seem to upload in about 30 seconds now. That was how I noticed the speed upgrade last Thur, I was literally like WTF an image has never uploaded that quick.
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For those who live in an area with HSPA+, I was wondering if it would show an H for HSPA+ (like e for edge, E for EDGE, 3G for well...,) on the stock ROM. Because I live in Los Angeles and it looks like T-Mobile is finally rolling out HSPA+ out here in their latest press release and would like to know what connection my phone is using. (Current ROM/Radio in my sig.)
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i am also interested in knowing if angone does get an h cuz i only see 3g
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The stock tmo ROM won't display an "H"...you'll have to install one of the many available custom taskbar icon sets for it to show that. However, I have yet to see any confirmation that having the "H" displayed on your taskbar means anything other than just the fact your connection (i.e. your closest tower) is capable of HSPA7.2 or better...regardless of whether it has the backhaul connection to support it or not.
And since my first Energy rom 2 1/2 months ago it's switched between 3G and H all the time, way before HSPA+. Now speed is the only gauge to know if I have HSPA+ or just HSPA.
I'm currently just out of HSPA+ range north of Seattle... 2 miles south I get 5.7mbps speedtests, at home still suffer with 900kbps even with H and 4 bars showing.
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And since my first Energy rom 2 1/2 months ago it's switched between 3G and H all the time, way before HSPA+. Now speed is the only gauge to know if I have HSPA+ or just HSPA.
I'm currently just out of HSPA+ range north of Seattle... 2 miles south I get 5.7mbps speedtests, at home still suffer with 900kbps even with H and 4 bars showing.
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I am going to guess that the ROMs that differentiate between 3G and H are probably showing 3G for UMTS and H for HSPA/HSPA+
so my hspa speeds are all over the place one Minute they are below 500kb/s the next they are over 2000kbs .. odd i say
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so my hspa speeds are all over the place one Minute they are below 500kb/s the next they are over 2000kbs .. odd i say
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Mine seem pretty consistently in the 2mbit download 1mbit upload, but ive seen spikes as high as 5mbit for download. probably all depends on how good the signal is in your area and the load on the cell tower that you are on.
That's what I was figuring sirphunkee (outside of just downloading a icon set to show H). Thanks all for your answers guys.
I've been noticing on liberated aria roms that instead of 3G, it is reporting data as being HSPA. I was curious as to the authenticity of this.
On liberated aria, speedtest.net reports I am getting about 4mb/s for downloads in H area. I was wondering if anyone with an aria reporting 3g would be willing to run a speedtest to see if they get the same results?
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I've been noticing on liberated aria roms that instead of 3G, it is reporting data as being HSPA. I was curious as to the authenticity of this.
On liberated aria, speedtest.net reports I am getting about 4mb/s for downloads in H area. I was wondering if anyone with an aria reporting 3g would be willing to run a speedtest to see if they get the same results?
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HSPA is the same as 3G on AT&T. HSPA is the technology AT&T uses for their 3G, and for some reason on the Froyo ROMs, it shows up with an H.
People have told me that its the same but when I speedtest my 3g and hspa the 3g is a little less for me. Like one time I had 3.87mb on 3g and when I flashed the hspa Rom it came up with 4mb.
I always throught the OEM rom had 3G (3.6mbit), while CM6 and perhaps the modified liberated roms had unlocked 3.5G (7.2mbit).
NO^^^ the speeds you experience on both roms are the exact same... who ever created the rom just decided to replace the 3G symbol with an H!
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NO^^^ the speeds you experience on both roms are the exact same... who ever created the rom just decided to replace the 3G symbol with an H!
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Any proof to back it up?
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Any proof to back it up?
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Yeah I dunno if I'd necessarily believe that. I notice when I do speedtests the HSPA is a bit faster, or at least thats what the speedtest app says. You notice it more on uploads, than downloads.
I believe the correct abbreviation is "HSDPA", or no?
Per:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_aria-3392.php
The difference is that the ROMs with 'H' has HSUPA (faster uploads) turned on and the stock AT&T with '3G' does not. Category 5 HSUPA to be exact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Uplink_Packet_Access
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I believe the correct abbreviation is "HSDPA", or no?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_aria-3392.php
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The technology is HSPA, HSDPA is the download speed, HSUPA is the upload speed, that is why you see the 2 different mnemonics used interchangeably.
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The difference is that the ROMs with 'H' has HSUPA (faster uploads) turned on and the stock AT&T with '3G' does not. Category 5 HSUPA to be exact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Uplink_Packet_Access
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This at least goes along with what I've noticed.
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I always throught the OEM rom had 3G (3.6mbit), while CM6 and perhaps the modified liberated roms had unlocked 3.5G (7.2mbit).
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I always assumed the same thing(never did any research to actually confirm). But from a practical point of view, I never noticed a significant speed increase when switching from stock to CM6.
You are all wrong. Att roms are compiled to use the 3g icon. When compiling roms/or using overseas roms its usually compiled to use the HSDPA icon. Its a known fact. HSPA and HSDPA are two totally different things. Proof to back it up? Its a build flag when compiling roms. You can also.check in settings->phone status. They both say hsdpa. So both roms get the exact same speed. Just use different icons. The speed changes you may notice are just placebo. Nothing more, nothing less.
Yeah I have had no speed increase from 3g to h...both pretty much same using 3g speed tester
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Yeah I have had no speed increase from 3g to h...both pretty much same using 3g speed tester
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same here, I do multiple speed tests a week, difference is minimal
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HSPA is the same as 3G on AT&T. HSPA is the technology AT&T uses for their 3G, and for some reason on the Froyo ROMs, it shows up with an H.
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No it's not. HSPA is not the same as 3g - it is faster, and yes, ATT has had HSPA for quite a while.
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No it's not. HSPA is not the same as 3g - it is faster, and yes, ATT has had HSPA for quite a while.
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Right - case in point - I had another unlocked phone (SE K850i) in late 2008, which typically read '3G' throughout the SF Bay Area, but I noticed it turned to 'H' when I traveled to Seattle at the time.
Tethered to a laptop, I got (roughly, from memory)
H 1.5MB down 700K up
3G 1.1MB down 144K up
Sometime in spring of 2009 ATT upgraded their network in the SF Bay area to HSPDA from the former UMTS (3G) network. The phone then read H thereafter and got similar speeds to what I'd seen on my trip in Seattle.
So, the older 3G network was UMTS, not HSPA. It's possible ATT still has some UMTS / 3G networks laying around elsewhere in the country, but I haven't seen '3G' on any of my phones that make the distinction recently in the SF Bay area, they're either on Edge or HSPA these days.
What's really funny is that, with all the current 4G marketing blitz, ATT probably missed out calling their HSPA network something better than 3G very early on, but instead just dumbed down their phones to all read 3G...perhaps to hide the extra time it took them to roll out HSPA...perhaps to avoid questions from thousands of people that would call in wondering why their phones didn't say 3G.
Anyhow right - Edge (2.5G) < UMTS (3G) < HSPA (3.5G)
I'm new to the Android thing so please don't kill me for the stupid question...
While I ran WinMO, I always had the 3G icon....Now on droid (coredroid latest version) The icon will switch between "E", "H", and "3G". Whats the difference between them and what do they mean?
My carrier is T-Mobile US. I was told by T-Mobile that they now longer have a 3G network, even though my HD2 is a 3G phone, it will get 4G speeds....
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I'm new to the Android thing so please don't kill me for the stupid question...
While I ran WinMO, I always had the 3G icon....Now on droid (coredroid latest version) The icon will switch between "E", "H", and "3G". Whats the difference between them and what do they mean?
My carrier is T-Mobile US. I was told by T-Mobile that they now longer have a 3G network, even though my HD2 is a 3G phone, it will get 4G speeds....
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Since the HD2 isn't a 4G phone, "H" is the almost equivalent; I think it's 3.75 or something like that. So, when you see the H, highest "letter", you are getting faster than 3G speed.
T-MO doesn't even have a 4G network, strictly speaking. But even if it had, your HD2 wouldn't be able to support it.
The max you can get is indeed 3.75G or HSPA, with up to 14/6 mbps down/upload speeds respectively. This is shown by the 'H' icon.
The 3G icon should refer to a UMTS connection, which is considerably slower than H. Some builds however also use the 3G icon when actually you're on a HSPA connection. This is just the icon, the connection is always as fast as possible.
E stands for Edge, an elder (and less battery consuming) protocol with much slower transfer speeds.
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T-MO doesn't even have a 4G network, strictly speaking. But even if it had, your HD2 wouldn't be able to support it.
The max you can get is indeed 3.75G or HSPA, with up to 14/6 mbps down/upload speeds respectively. This is shown by the 'H' icon.
The 3G icon should refer to a UMTS connection, which is considerably slower than H. Some builds however also use the 3G icon when actually you're on a HSPA connection. This is just the icon, the connection is always as fast as possible.
E stands for Edge, an elder (and less battery consuming) protocol with much slower transfer speeds.
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If T-Mobile doesn't have 4G, then why do they sell two 4G phones and advertise 4G? Does Sprint not have 4G,either? They do have 4G, it's just that some areas are not utilizing it yet.
No, they don't have 4G. They claim they have, and the speeds are faster than a typical HSPA network, but it's not 4G.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent...doesnt_have_4g_and_theres_no_santa_claus.html
I'm not sure on Sprint, but at first they sure falsely advertised their network as 4G. They may have upgraded it to true 4G by now, again, I'm not sure.
Edit: nope, all carriers are still lying about their 4G network.
If its not 4G, they why are they all calling it 4g?
And if 4G is non existent since no carriers have it, then wouldn't HSPA really be 4G?
I don't get this. So Evo users don't get 4G?
Okay third time, no it's not 4g it's an upgraded kind of 3G. I have even included a link about it, click it and read some.
Google store Nexus 4 on T-Mobile pre-pay plan. Stock Android 4.4.4.
My statuses for mobile data were either 'H', or nothing at all (just bars). For the first time ever I am seeing a '3G' mobile data icon in the bar but I don't think the phone has been updated or changed in any other way - I'm not really concerned as much as puzzled as to what is different now.
FightingChance said:
Google store Nexus 4 on T-Mobile pre-pay plan. Stock Android 4.4.4.
My statuses for mobile data were either 'H', or nothing at all (just bars). For the first time ever I am seeing a '3G' mobile data icon in the bar but I don't think the phone has been updated or changed in any other way - I'm not really concerned as much as puzzled as to what is different now.
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H is hspa(or HSPA+), i dont remember if the n4 has an H+ for hspa+. anyways, that is 3G, but a faster version, like 3.5G. H+ is faster than H, and consists of data download speeds near LTE speeds, but slower upload than LTE. so if you are seeing a 3G now, then youre on a slower network.
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H is hspa(or HSPA+), i dont remember if the n4 has an H+ for hspa+. anyways, that is 3G, but a faster version, like 3.5G. H+ is faster than H, and consists of data download speeds near LTE speeds, but slower upload than LTE. so if you are seeing a 3G now, then youre on a slower network.
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I know what the speeds/radios are and what they mean; I wasn't clear enough in my question then.
For the life of this phone on T-Mobile, they've elected to show either 'H' or nothing at all to denote the lower tier GSM connectivity; I'm wondering why, now, they (or some firmware update to the towers, or ?) have elected to start putting '3G' on the status. I've just never had it before. Can others on T-Mo speak to this?
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I know what the speeds/radios are and what they mean; I wasn't clear enough in my question then.
For the life of this phone on T-Mobile, they've elected to show either 'H' or nothing at all to denote the lower tier GSM connectivity; I'm wondering why, now, they (or some firmware update to the towers, or ?) have elected to start putting '3G' on the status. I've just never had it before. Can others on T-Mo speak to this?
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because ot wasnt in your area befote, but it is now? no one can really answer the question, as each of us have unique situations. maybe a neighbor or someone that lives nearby can answer.